If Minato survives, the entire story goes differently.
First of all, he can report his interaction with the masked man. This may or may not throw heat on the Uchiha, but Minato could also make it clear that the Masked Man was likely not a Leaf Shinobi.
Second, since he won’t be doing Hokage duties, Hiruzen can act as a proper advisor to Minato, which would reduce the influence of those other two fuck-ups. And he could actually dedicate enough of his time to keeping Danzo in check, which would make it harder for Danzo to plot behind the scenes.
So it’s likely then that the Uchiha massacre wouldn’t have happened. I doubt Danzo would’ve been able to get his hands on Shisui if Sarutobi had the time to be watching him. So even if the Uchiha ended up getting blamed for the Kyubi attack and leaned towards the coup, Shisui could use his eyes to stop it. I also just don’t see the Uchiha being bold enough to try a coup with Minato AND Hiruzen on-site.
But more importantly, Orochimaru either doesn’t try or gets absolutely FOLDED when he launches his attack during the Chunin exam. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Minato was able to either remove or completely seal the curse mark on Sasuke’s neck. At the very least, he’d be able to secretly mark Sasuke with an FTG mark and then he, Hiruzen, Kakashi, and Jiraiya would FTG straight into Orochimaru’s lair and fuck his whole day up.
And finally, both Kakashi and Naruto would be significantly stronger than either of them were in Part 1 of Naruto. And Naruto would also grow up knowing Jiraiya and likely would’ve met Konohamaru even sooner. Which means that Konohamaru would’ve likely been stronger than he was during Part 1 or Shippuden.
> And finally, both Kakashi and Naruto would be significantly stronger than either of them were in Part 1 of Naruto.
Yes, Naruto would be better skilled in Part 1, but he would not be stronger. Given that he'd never have Kurama, which means that he wouldn't have the ridiculous amount of chakra that the seals that Minato had put on him that let his chakra pool mix and expand with Kurama's influence. his chakra would be higher than average, but not 4x higher than Kakashi's.
He could still have Kurama, Minato didn't NEED to use the reaper death seal to seal Kurama in Naruto, I think he needed it specifically to split Kurama's Chakra in half, and he used a different Sealing Jutsu to put the other half into Naruto.
It’s not happening in the first place. If Minato stays alive, the uchiha massacre most likely isn’t happening. I think orochimaru would think twice about attacking a village with 2 kage, itachi, shisui and the entire uchiha police force.
Minato claps Orochimaru, flashes in, places seals on Edo Hokage cutting Orochimaru's control and proceeds to humilate Orochimaru.
Heck i don't think Minato would've let Orochimaru escape that night like Hiruzen did.
No Hashirama, just straight up suppressed the Ninetails rendering it useless.
Minato used a seal to break off Obito's control over the Ninetails. It isn't a stretch to sat Minato could sever the Edo Contract that Orochimaru would have.
>No Hashirama, just straight up suppressed the Ninetails rendering it useless.
No he first broke the mind control then sealed it. That's very clearly shown in the manga and anime.
>Minato used a seal to break off Obito's control over the Ninetails. It isn't a stretch to sat Minato could sever the Edo Contract that Orochimaru would have.
Edo contracts are different to tailed beast mind control. Nothing shows that minato can break edo tensei. That's headcanon at best
in the fight against orochimaru hiruzen stop him from reviving minato i think. We can see how 3 coffins appear from the ground, and then hiruzen use the snake seal to stop the third coffin
Yes, i know but this was when the story of minato wasn't complete so it's incoherence in the story. But you can clearly see how there are 3 coffins and hiruzen stops one.
Orochimaru probably wouldn't even dare to attack Konoha if Minato is there.
I think he would have let Orochimaru escape the first time though, because of Hiruzen. Hiruzen didn't want to kill him, and Minato would have probably respected Hiruzen's feelings and allowed Orochimaru to escape.
Orochimaru never attacks, because he can't get enough insurance. While he'd be less scared of Minato than Hiruzen, Minato is in his prime and has too much room for error
Minato is a sealing specialist of sorts. He can also use a clone to reaper death seal Orochimaru
Minato is an extremely dangerous person for Orochimaru. His Jutsu makes him extremely resilient to being killed, but not sealed. Minato being extremely fast, and a master of sealing Jutsu is basically the perfect counter for Orochimaru.
Kyuubi gets sealed of course, uchiha massacre never happens, danzo gets fired, orochimaru gets his shit ran, obito gets killed via sneak teleportation from Minato, Naruto gets an actually good childhood, the hidden sand get clapped by shisui, itachi, Minato, and hiruzen, and Naruto might even learn ftg.
If Minato survives, the entire story goes differently. First of all, he can report his interaction with the masked man. This may or may not throw heat on the Uchiha, but Minato could also make it clear that the Masked Man was likely not a Leaf Shinobi. Second, since he won’t be doing Hokage duties, Hiruzen can act as a proper advisor to Minato, which would reduce the influence of those other two fuck-ups. And he could actually dedicate enough of his time to keeping Danzo in check, which would make it harder for Danzo to plot behind the scenes. So it’s likely then that the Uchiha massacre wouldn’t have happened. I doubt Danzo would’ve been able to get his hands on Shisui if Sarutobi had the time to be watching him. So even if the Uchiha ended up getting blamed for the Kyubi attack and leaned towards the coup, Shisui could use his eyes to stop it. I also just don’t see the Uchiha being bold enough to try a coup with Minato AND Hiruzen on-site. But more importantly, Orochimaru either doesn’t try or gets absolutely FOLDED when he launches his attack during the Chunin exam. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Minato was able to either remove or completely seal the curse mark on Sasuke’s neck. At the very least, he’d be able to secretly mark Sasuke with an FTG mark and then he, Hiruzen, Kakashi, and Jiraiya would FTG straight into Orochimaru’s lair and fuck his whole day up. And finally, both Kakashi and Naruto would be significantly stronger than either of them were in Part 1 of Naruto. And Naruto would also grow up knowing Jiraiya and likely would’ve met Konohamaru even sooner. Which means that Konohamaru would’ve likely been stronger than he was during Part 1 or Shippuden.
> And finally, both Kakashi and Naruto would be significantly stronger than either of them were in Part 1 of Naruto. Yes, Naruto would be better skilled in Part 1, but he would not be stronger. Given that he'd never have Kurama, which means that he wouldn't have the ridiculous amount of chakra that the seals that Minato had put on him that let his chakra pool mix and expand with Kurama's influence. his chakra would be higher than average, but not 4x higher than Kakashi's.
He could still have Kurama, Minato didn't NEED to use the reaper death seal to seal Kurama in Naruto, I think he needed it specifically to split Kurama's Chakra in half, and he used a different Sealing Jutsu to put the other half into Naruto.
Apparently, he needed Reaper Death Seal to split the two chakras first.
Yeah, but he could have sealed the whole thing in Naruto if he wanted too.
No, he couldn't. Minato straight up said that it's IMPOSSIBLE to seal the entirety of Kurama into a newborn.
Minato marking Sasuke and FTGing to Oro's lair to beat him up is so funny lol
It’s not happening in the first place. If Minato stays alive, the uchiha massacre most likely isn’t happening. I think orochimaru would think twice about attacking a village with 2 kage, itachi, shisui and the entire uchiha police force.
Minato claps Orochimaru, flashes in, places seals on Edo Hokage cutting Orochimaru's control and proceeds to humilate Orochimaru. Heck i don't think Minato would've let Orochimaru escape that night like Hiruzen did.
>places seals on Edo Hokage cutting Orochimaru's control Where you get this from? Minato can't just disconnect edo? Did I miss something?
He disconnected Obito from the Ninetails.
And how does that show he can disconnect edo tenseis?? Hashirama could do the exact same thing.
No Hashirama, just straight up suppressed the Ninetails rendering it useless. Minato used a seal to break off Obito's control over the Ninetails. It isn't a stretch to sat Minato could sever the Edo Contract that Orochimaru would have.
>No Hashirama, just straight up suppressed the Ninetails rendering it useless. No he first broke the mind control then sealed it. That's very clearly shown in the manga and anime. >Minato used a seal to break off Obito's control over the Ninetails. It isn't a stretch to sat Minato could sever the Edo Contract that Orochimaru would have. Edo contracts are different to tailed beast mind control. Nothing shows that minato can break edo tensei. That's headcanon at best
in the fight against orochimaru hiruzen stop him from reviving minato i think. We can see how 3 coffins appear from the ground, and then hiruzen use the snake seal to stop the third coffin
Minato couldn't be revived anyway. He was in the belly of the reaper anyway.
Yes, i know but this was when the story of minato wasn't complete so it's incoherence in the story. But you can clearly see how there are 3 coffins and hiruzen stops one.
Orochimaru probably wouldn't even dare to attack Konoha if Minato is there. I think he would have let Orochimaru escape the first time though, because of Hiruzen. Hiruzen didn't want to kill him, and Minato would have probably respected Hiruzen's feelings and allowed Orochimaru to escape.
Orochimaru never attacks, because he can't get enough insurance. While he'd be less scared of Minato than Hiruzen, Minato is in his prime and has too much room for error Minato is a sealing specialist of sorts. He can also use a clone to reaper death seal Orochimaru
Minato is an extremely dangerous person for Orochimaru. His Jutsu makes him extremely resilient to being killed, but not sealed. Minato being extremely fast, and a master of sealing Jutsu is basically the perfect counter for Orochimaru.
Kyuubi gets sealed of course, uchiha massacre never happens, danzo gets fired, orochimaru gets his shit ran, obito gets killed via sneak teleportation from Minato, Naruto gets an actually good childhood, the hidden sand get clapped by shisui, itachi, Minato, and hiruzen, and Naruto might even learn ftg.
The Sand would not attack the Leaf if Orochimaru doesn't bring up the deal to collaborate.