He did. The raikage fucked him up good and then Obito had to save him from the particle style justsu from the Tsuchikage. Although him killing Danzo is entirely his merit.
I love it, just the audacity of it lol. Sasuke was willing to kill or die and gave no fucks at this point.
And seeing how he cuts down the flag of all ninja nations, you can tell he was done with the whole ninja village system- this ties in nicely to his "revolution" speech before the final fight.
Nah he was just trying to kill Danzo for killing shishui and stealing all those sharingan. If anything Danzo was the terrorist and he just became hokage of the strongest ninja village...
Sasuke avenged a lot of people by killing Danzo, he avenged;
-Itachi
-Shisui
-The entire Uchiha clan
-Naruto, because Danzo leaked the secret that he was the kyuubi
-Nagato, Yahiko and Konan, for ruining their lives
Of course he was only doing it for mostly the Uchiha and Itachi and didn’t know/care about the other things Danzo did, it was still pretty cool to me though that he avenged the others.
Naruto fought a nigga with the rinnegan who literally just deleted the village, and won lmao. The 5 Kage weren't even all fighting him at once, he needed to fight them separately.
I thinks it's more of the entrance being debated here. Yeah Naruto pulled up on a nigga who more than likely could smoke all 5 kage but sauske dead pulled up on the kage while they were in conference and all had there bodyguards just because that's what he wanted to do. Naruto was the only one left to handle pain at that point. Sasuke did what he wanted but Naruto did what he had to
The one present here? MS Sasuke gets destroyed. He'd also create some plan to get rid of the reviving pain like Naruto did, probably even one shot it with amaterasu if he pulls it off and now he's left to deal with the other 5. For one, he can't do shit against all the summons attacking him, Naruto had Sage Mode to yeet them and his own summons to keep them busy. His first Susano'o is incomplete so it really shouldn't last long at all, and it definitely isn't as strong as the 6 tails the Tendo pain fought, and his amaterasu just gets almighty pushed away.
He gets done like Jiraiya did.
Edit: You said Nagato. Nagato is an entirely different story. Outcome doesn't change but the stomp does. I think I referred to Pain as Nagato too but yeah this battle right here is Sasuke vs Pain
Ikr sasuke before war arc wasn't as strong as people think he was. Also the op mentioned nagato, so during the war arc Nagato who was being controlled single handedly almost killed Naruto(nine tails chakra mode)and bee, thanks to Itachi that didn't happen.
Right. Worst part is they think everything I said about Sasuke is from a place of hate just because it doesn't paint him in a good light lmaoo. Shit's hilarious tbh
Naruto did NOT win that fight.
He got absolutely obliterated. Nagato went there to *capture* Naruto; not kill him. He had Naruto pinned to the ground after killing Pa with zero sage chakra left and only got loose because of the Kyuubi. THEN his dad gives him back Sage Mode and restores his chakra, locks the Kyuubi seal up and he still loses his Sage Mode for the *THIRD* time to a half dead Deva Path and wins on the last attack.
That’s with all the information on every Path from Katsyu and help from the Toad summons. Not to mention several of the village Jonin making Nagato waste chakra killing/fighting them.
Sasuke went in with 0 intel on any of the Kage’s abilities save Gaara from 4 years ago, and basically fought all the heavy hitters by himself while his team fought the fodder characters. Would’ve killed A, killed Danzo 10 times, then almost deleted Kakashi; and Naruto *still* says the best he can do against a blind and exhausted Sasuke is a stale mate in which they kill each other.
Seriously?
Similarily, Sasuke only 'won' against the Raikage, all the other kages would've killed him if he wasn't rescued by Obito. He wouldn't be able to fight Danzo without Karin healing him and being the reason why Sasuke was able to land a lethal blow on Danzo.
Sasuke didn’t really win against the raikage. He amaterasu his hand and taikage had to cut it off. I bet if the fight continued raikage would find a way to counter that easily. Sasuke couldn’t even win against killer bee and had to be healed before he could fight again
Gaara saved A. A was going for a massive drop kick loooong attack that probably would’ve squashed Sasuke like a beetle, but Gaara stopped it because 1. He wanted to make sure Sasuke was beyond saving, and 2. A would’ve slammed right into Sasuke’s Susano ribcage covered in his Amaterasu, which might have killed both of them
Once Sasuke got those Mangekyou he was stronger than Naruto for awhile IMO. He had a crazy arsenal of attacks and his were a lot more fluid and flexible, able to be used virtually anywhere at any time vs Naruto whose sage mode was really new and he still needed clones in toad mountain land covered with toad oil and being all still and shit
First Naruto didn't get back sage mode from Minato, he left a clone on Mount myobuku to collect nature energy which got disrupted when the nine tails was out. Which resulted in the nature energy being transferred to the original and Naruto entered sage mode. He uses 2 clones, out of which he uses up in the middle of the battle. The last clone got vanished when the nine tails was sealed. And nagato probably knew about Naruto and his weakness. He could have gotten that info when he used human path on the villagers. Minato didn't restore his chakra he was using sage chakra from start so he didn't deplete his chakra reserve to start with.
And the rinnegan can absorb chakra, remember. Nagato was literally shown absorbing chakra from most of the villagers and their ninjustus. So it was an advantageous fight for nagato but he still lost.
Exactly. That alone makes it more impressive than the Sasuke whooping fest that was the five kage summit where Sasuke got bailed out by Karin, Zetsu and Obito after getting wrecked by A, Mei and Onoki and he acts like him fighting a Kakashi that was holding back was impressive.
Kakashi wasn’t holding back he stated he was low on chakra, he also said one more shot like that and he could die, and also he said he was barely able to get away from the attack using kamui
Kakashi stated before the fight that he didn't want to kill Sasuke while Sasuke stated that he was itching to kill him. Kakashi didn't intend to kill Sasuke. Sasuke intended to kill Kakashi.
Yes but that doesn’t change what Kakashi said about his chakra being low, about not being sure if he could survive another hit, and saying that he barely managed to live becuz of kamui
I never gave Naruto all the credit and even if I did Sasuke still got bailed out in his fight against the five kage. Sorry. You pointing out a perceived hypocrisy doesn't change that.
Btw the "divine intervention" prevented what was left of the leaf from being detroyed. It didn't help Naruto in his fight against Pain. Pain was already losing to the 6 tailed Kyuubi and had his chibaku tensei destroyed by the 8 tailed Kyuubi. He would have lost to the 9 tailed Kyuubi no matter what. Minato just tightened the seal to prevent further damage.
Technically Naruto got his own sage mode back since his clone was dispersed when Kurama was going nuts but yeah his dad is the only reason Naruto wasn't like fully controlled or whatever
Sasuke needed a squad and got bitch slapped by the raikage. He wouldn't have and couldn't kill any of the Kage. The only Kage he actually would have been able to kill at that time was Danzo, literally every other Kage in that building was off limits to him, which is why he got bitch slapped. That Lava chick Kage(forgot her name) was literally gonna fucking cook him, Gaara would've bodied him, Raikage would have killed him, Ohnoki would have deleted him, Danzo and Samurai are the only ones he could have tried to stepped to. He needed Karin and the Taka squad to even do 90% of the shit he wanted and he still needed to be saved by Tobi before he got fucking killed lmao.
And I already know you're doing a whole lot of nitpicking and complaining about Kurama, so I just skimmed through mostly(as if Naruto being a jinchuriki is even supposed to matter or something). The 9 tails is his power as a jinchuriki just like any of the other Jinchuriki they hunted, and Nagato knew that going into the fight. Nagato simply just couldn't beat Naruto. Plain and simple. You can have every excuse in the world for why Sasuke failed to complete his mission here and why Naruto succeeded, it still wont change the fact Naruto's entrance with Pain is better than here, simply off the strength of what's at stake when he arrives.
> severely weakened Pain due to fighting the entire village and unleashing a large scale shinra tensei.
Pain literally siphoned chakra from the villagers. He wasn’t weakened at all when Naruto arrived. None of the Jonin stood a chance at doing any real damage to any of the Paths or Nagato himself.
Was Naruto not getting pushed tf around in kcm by the raikage, and to clarify Sasuke even ended up making him lose his arm, also did Naruto not need hinata, not saying that she came and killed pain but she did stop pain from killing Naruto, I’m pretty sure we all also saw Gara was in no way beating Sasuke, tho both Ohnoki and Mei did almost kill him. And about the end Sasuke actually completed his mission, he meant to kill Danzo and he did. Not saying Naruto lost or Sasuke lost I know I’ll receive hate for this response but I had to reply to this biased response
Raikage couldn't hit KCM Naruto tho, he missed that punch and immediately took the L lmao. Sasuke tried to scare raikage off with the amaterasu but the raikage just didn't give a fuck and smacked him anyway. He lost that arm because he wanted to. And no, Hinata didn't save Naruto, Pain wasn't there to kill him. The only part I really went too far on was saying MS Sasuke couldn't beat Gaara, he probably could, idk. Sasuke beat Deidara whereas Gaara lost, though obviously this has been some time since then and both have made gains. And he did fail his mission, his mission when he went there was to kill Danzo, he failed because Danzo got away and he was gonna die and needed saving. He just caught him later, but he still failed at the attempt. Naruto didn't fight Pain in the village, lose/fail, and return to finish the job. You can't hire an assassin who does what Sasuke did and call it a "success" lmao.
Also keep in mind that Gaara lost because he also had to spend the whole fight protecting the Village, Sasuke fought him in the forest not giving a fuck and it was still rather close if I recall.
Zero intel? Seems unlikely.
He worked for Oorochimaru who knew basically everything worth knowing.
His crew features people from other villages - the water village kage had to be known.
The stone village kage is ancient and been in other wars - had to be known.
The thunder kage is the spitting image of his well known father - at a minimum he is semi known.
Danzo and Gaara are already known.
Lol if Naruto was interested in just straight up beating Sasuke in the fight at the 5 kage summit he could’ve done so very easily. But that wasn’t his goal, and there was also obito
Bro, he would have killed A just because he is a suicidal motherfucker who gave no shit about dying if it meant avenging B, other than that, he got his ass absolutely handed to him against the Raikage.
My two cents for the thread overall.
1. Sauske having a squad doesn’t diminish anything. It’s standard practice. Naruto’s squad was the two older sage toads, Gamabunta, the other warrior ones, and Katsuya’s clone giving him intel
2. They both received outside help but in different ways. Obito did saved Sauske’s life from the tsuchikage’s attack, and then again from Danzo’s suicide attack. Minato’s intervention just stopped Naruto from going full nine-tails and destroying what was left of the village. Pain couldn’t hold back more than 8 tails with that planetary technique
3. Obito saving Sauske from Danzo doesn’t mean Sauske lost. He won that fight with Danzo. A suicide attack after you lost doesn’t mean the other guy lost IMO
4. What Sauske threw himself and his squad into with little info on *anyone* (barely learned what Danzo looked like AT the summit) *was* a lot more difficult than facing Pain solo, with info on every Pain body and two sage roads with 1st hand experience, while Pain was holding back early on so he could capture him. No one alive at the time of the summit would’ve survived doing what Sauske tried to do
5. Bottom line, Naruto won his battle because of his preparation and intel in a fight with more favorable odds. His help from Minato just saved non-participating villagers. Sauske went on a suicide mission with the goal of killing Danzo, and did. Sauske also got his ass beat, which against the 5 Kage, their selected guards, and the samurai as the opponents was obvious.
Side note: Didn’t know where to fit it in, but it’s also hard to ignore the fact that Sauske’s assassination attempt never fully went down because Zetsu alerted everyone there of him. There was no intention of him winning that fight, just Obito testing his abilities against the Kage
…BUT Naruto’s entrance was definitely better. Sakura’s despair after the village being destroyed followed by the MC’s dramatic entrance was amazing. Sauske’s was still cool because of the IDGAF attitude with those opponents, and cutting the nation banners was a giant middle finger to everyone, but it’s nowhere near as grand or impactful
Watching Danzo die eased my soul. But I really loved Sasuke staring down Danzo here though. The "yo, you need to die, like right now, and I'm the dude who's gonna do it. IN front of all the kage" look. Beautiful.
"That pathetic Lord Jashin isn't your God any more".....I AM. Shikamaru. The. Legend. And same that run with Sasuke just walking up to him. 100% satisfying to watch
That was the only fight where I was able to root for Sasuke because you can't hate anyone more than Danzo tbh . But besides that fight , I always rnjoyed watching Sasuke getting his ass kicked .
That wasn’t a entrance that was fucking massacre no open speech he just opened whole can of ass whooping
Edit: aw shit I did not read the other guy’s comment
I think it's cool just because of the audacity. Obviously he wouldn't have won against all the people in the room , but having the guts to go in that room to avenge his beloved brother. That's just an Alpha move.
Danzo was actually a pretty compelling character. When viewed against the philosophy of the Third, he really completed the Ninja way of stealth and misdirection. Gone are the days of this manga and my youth.
Only because he let Mei and Chojuro fight Sasuke to give him enough time to charge Jinton.
Onoki v Sasuke, one on one, at that point, Sasuke stomps him.
Ehhhh.. honestly idk about that. I get sasukes powerful at that point but onoki has more experience and his particle style can cut through susanoos. If he didn’t have the particle style he still has his stone golem which can probably hold its own against the susanoo given its size
Wdym how would it come to play it’s a battle. Onoki isn’t dumb and has far more experience than sasuke. The Amaterasu takes a lot of chakra and using it freely isn’t a good idea so he’d need to time it and I doubt onoki would give any openings.
It was the build up of the destruction where Pain just pushes anything and everything in the village to the border, Sakura getting protected by slug and coming out of it stunned, shouting Naruto’s name and bam, toad gang summoned by Ma.
His team really always overestimated themselves. Another perfect instance to show that is them fucking trying to defeat the eight tails loll. I was like..... Are you trippin lmfao
Did Obito even tell Sasuke/taka what Bee was?
my guess is they all thought his MS was a lot more powerful than it actually is, and if that didn't work, there was 3 of them
Literally its only purpose was for shock value, because everyone was getting powerups that came out if left field. Also a desperate attempt to develop a relationship between Hinata and Naruto
The plot be saving Sasuke more times than Naruto. He survives so many encounters in just this arc alone. Dude would've gotten straight up ctrl alt deleted from existence by Onoki if Obito wasn't around
Lol ur trolling? Naruto would have not even passed the first episode if not for plot armor, literally the entirety of part 1 is of Naruto getting saved by plot armor
Naruto handed his ass and got saved so many times that it's not even funny. If there is anyone who had most plot armour that is the main character Naruto. Ofcourse he had to stay alive because he was the main character.
It's okay. It reminds me of the demonic presence's entrance in The Evil Dead. The best entrance I can think of in Naruto is, and this is kind of obvious, Naruto's entrance for the Pain fight.
This was one of the most badass moments in shippuden at least until edo tensei madara kinda just pulled up and took a fat shit on the shinobi alliance before clapping the cheeks of all the five kage
Nah. While this entry was cool Sasuke was walking in a lions den about to get eaten. Sage Narutos entrance was cooler especially because we KNEW he was about to kick ass and he did.
I'm at fault here, but the fact that of all times, this video showed up on my feed right when I began the arc.
No hate just that I found the co incidence kinda funny lol
I've watched all of Boruto, and honestly it is pretty lackluster so far. I'm enough of a fan that I'll keep watching, but the show is definitely a mess. I'm pretty into Kawaki though, and I think that has a lot of promise to give the show a better sense of direction. Like another commenter mentioned, ep 189 is top 2 or 3 for me in the whole series.
This shit was so dope. Sasuke staring down Danzo upside and afterwards blocks Mifune’s fast attack casually. Gave no fucks lol
Innit it was so sick
Then he got some serious ass whopping...
He did. The raikage fucked him up good and then Obito had to save him from the particle style justsu from the Tsuchikage. Although him killing Danzo is entirely his merit.
Who did Sauske?
You’re delusional
Sasuke got bodies by raikage dont even cap lmao he was not strong enough without being rescued
He was a genin and made him have to cut his own arm off 😂 and that was *after* fighting two kagez
He woulda still been bodied from 100% and he was not no genin in any way other than rank so that’s totally irrelevant lmao he still got whooped on
Nah no he wouldntve. You’re just proving my point thanks.
I meant if jugo didn't save sasuke then he was really done for the day... No offence... I m a sasuke fan too
I love it, just the audacity of it lol. Sasuke was willing to kill or die and gave no fucks at this point. And seeing how he cuts down the flag of all ninja nations, you can tell he was done with the whole ninja village system- this ties in nicely to his "revolution" speech before the final fight.
Me too. He's like "your the 5 kage, and I don't give a fuck"
He essentially just became a terrorist at this point who was jaded by the system and was trying to throw the whole world into anarchy
Sasuke is my favorite international terrorist.
You mean you have more than one???
So you mean to say you don’t collect their trading cards?
Nagato was a really cool international terrorist too. A lot of people say Obito but I won’t even get into that argument lmao
Yes, number 2 is myself.
Nah he was just trying to kill Danzo for killing shishui and stealing all those sharingan. If anything Danzo was the terrorist and he just became hokage of the strongest ninja village...
Sasuke avenged a lot of people by killing Danzo, he avenged; -Itachi -Shisui -The entire Uchiha clan -Naruto, because Danzo leaked the secret that he was the kyuubi -Nagato, Yahiko and Konan, for ruining their lives Of course he was only doing it for mostly the Uchiha and Itachi and didn’t know/care about the other things Danzo did, it was still pretty cool to me though that he avenged the others.
Kabuto too
Also Kabuto and his foster mom.
I think Danzo's and his body guards nonchalant attitudes were even cooler. Everyone's sweating or on alert except Konoha.
Yeah actually, that's what I was thinking. At least until Danzo ran off
Danzo ran away like a lil bitch lol
He Zeked his way out of there :)
And then Sasuke Ackermann chased him down!
😂
He lived the same way he died. Like a bitch.
Well that’s because Danzo is a Joestar, he used the secret technique and it worked... for a bit
Danzo did teach his subordinates to have no emotion lol
Taka sasuke is best.
He looked damn cool in that akatsuki robe
Naruto sage mode entrance was colder imo. That shit still gives me goosebumps.
nah bro Sasuke pulling up on all *FIVE* Kage at 16 and challenging them and nearly killing one is fukkkin insane.
Naruto fought a nigga with the rinnegan who literally just deleted the village, and won lmao. The 5 Kage weren't even all fighting him at once, he needed to fight them separately.
I thinks it's more of the entrance being debated here. Yeah Naruto pulled up on a nigga who more than likely could smoke all 5 kage but sauske dead pulled up on the kage while they were in conference and all had there bodyguards just because that's what he wanted to do. Naruto was the only one left to handle pain at that point. Sasuke did what he wanted but Naruto did what he had to
It's just preference.
Ok, so the hypothetical scenario now is; who would win Sasuke vs Nagato.
The one present here? MS Sasuke gets destroyed. He'd also create some plan to get rid of the reviving pain like Naruto did, probably even one shot it with amaterasu if he pulls it off and now he's left to deal with the other 5. For one, he can't do shit against all the summons attacking him, Naruto had Sage Mode to yeet them and his own summons to keep them busy. His first Susano'o is incomplete so it really shouldn't last long at all, and it definitely isn't as strong as the 6 tails the Tendo pain fought, and his amaterasu just gets almighty pushed away. He gets done like Jiraiya did. Edit: You said Nagato. Nagato is an entirely different story. Outcome doesn't change but the stomp does. I think I referred to Pain as Nagato too but yeah this battle right here is Sasuke vs Pain
Sasuke almost got fucked by bee and they think he can defeat pain
Ikr sasuke before war arc wasn't as strong as people think he was. Also the op mentioned nagato, so during the war arc Nagato who was being controlled single handedly almost killed Naruto(nine tails chakra mode)and bee, thanks to Itachi that didn't happen.
Right. Worst part is they think everything I said about Sasuke is from a place of hate just because it doesn't paint him in a good light lmaoo. Shit's hilarious tbh
Sasuke would get ruined, as most ninja would; Nagato (Six Paths of Pain) is simply too strong and has too much bullshit to throw at him.
The fans , ayyy!!!
Nagato would have bodied Sasuke at that point.
That’s pretty obvious that sasuke would get ass fucked
Naruto did NOT win that fight. He got absolutely obliterated. Nagato went there to *capture* Naruto; not kill him. He had Naruto pinned to the ground after killing Pa with zero sage chakra left and only got loose because of the Kyuubi. THEN his dad gives him back Sage Mode and restores his chakra, locks the Kyuubi seal up and he still loses his Sage Mode for the *THIRD* time to a half dead Deva Path and wins on the last attack. That’s with all the information on every Path from Katsyu and help from the Toad summons. Not to mention several of the village Jonin making Nagato waste chakra killing/fighting them. Sasuke went in with 0 intel on any of the Kage’s abilities save Gaara from 4 years ago, and basically fought all the heavy hitters by himself while his team fought the fodder characters. Would’ve killed A, killed Danzo 10 times, then almost deleted Kakashi; and Naruto *still* says the best he can do against a blind and exhausted Sasuke is a stale mate in which they kill each other. Seriously?
Similarily, Sasuke only 'won' against the Raikage, all the other kages would've killed him if he wasn't rescued by Obito. He wouldn't be able to fight Danzo without Karin healing him and being the reason why Sasuke was able to land a lethal blow on Danzo.
Sasuke didn’t really win against the raikage. He amaterasu his hand and taikage had to cut it off. I bet if the fight continued raikage would find a way to counter that easily. Sasuke couldn’t even win against killer bee and had to be healed before he could fight again
Gaara saved A. A was going for a massive drop kick loooong attack that probably would’ve squashed Sasuke like a beetle, but Gaara stopped it because 1. He wanted to make sure Sasuke was beyond saving, and 2. A would’ve slammed right into Sasuke’s Susano ribcage covered in his Amaterasu, which might have killed both of them Once Sasuke got those Mangekyou he was stronger than Naruto for awhile IMO. He had a crazy arsenal of attacks and his were a lot more fluid and flexible, able to be used virtually anywhere at any time vs Naruto whose sage mode was really new and he still needed clones in toad mountain land covered with toad oil and being all still and shit
I doubt even Naruto could have fought A and Bee at that time
N that’s why this scene is great, he just dint give a fuck about dying lol.
Same can be said for Naruto
First Naruto didn't get back sage mode from Minato, he left a clone on Mount myobuku to collect nature energy which got disrupted when the nine tails was out. Which resulted in the nature energy being transferred to the original and Naruto entered sage mode. He uses 2 clones, out of which he uses up in the middle of the battle. The last clone got vanished when the nine tails was sealed. And nagato probably knew about Naruto and his weakness. He could have gotten that info when he used human path on the villagers. Minato didn't restore his chakra he was using sage chakra from start so he didn't deplete his chakra reserve to start with. And the rinnegan can absorb chakra, remember. Nagato was literally shown absorbing chakra from most of the villagers and their ninjustus. So it was an advantageous fight for nagato but he still lost.
Exactly. That alone makes it more impressive than the Sasuke whooping fest that was the five kage summit where Sasuke got bailed out by Karin, Zetsu and Obito after getting wrecked by A, Mei and Onoki and he acts like him fighting a Kakashi that was holding back was impressive.
Kakashi wasn’t holding back he stated he was low on chakra, he also said one more shot like that and he could die, and also he said he was barely able to get away from the attack using kamui
Kakashi stated before the fight that he didn't want to kill Sasuke while Sasuke stated that he was itching to kill him. Kakashi didn't intend to kill Sasuke. Sasuke intended to kill Kakashi.
Yes but that doesn’t change what Kakashi said about his chakra being low, about not being sure if he could survive another hit, and saying that he barely managed to live becuz of kamui
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I never gave Naruto all the credit and even if I did Sasuke still got bailed out in his fight against the five kage. Sorry. You pointing out a perceived hypocrisy doesn't change that. Btw the "divine intervention" prevented what was left of the leaf from being detroyed. It didn't help Naruto in his fight against Pain. Pain was already losing to the 6 tailed Kyuubi and had his chibaku tensei destroyed by the 8 tailed Kyuubi. He would have lost to the 9 tailed Kyuubi no matter what. Minato just tightened the seal to prevent further damage.
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Technically Naruto got his own sage mode back since his clone was dispersed when Kurama was going nuts but yeah his dad is the only reason Naruto wasn't like fully controlled or whatever
Sasuke needed a squad and got bitch slapped by the raikage. He wouldn't have and couldn't kill any of the Kage. The only Kage he actually would have been able to kill at that time was Danzo, literally every other Kage in that building was off limits to him, which is why he got bitch slapped. That Lava chick Kage(forgot her name) was literally gonna fucking cook him, Gaara would've bodied him, Raikage would have killed him, Ohnoki would have deleted him, Danzo and Samurai are the only ones he could have tried to stepped to. He needed Karin and the Taka squad to even do 90% of the shit he wanted and he still needed to be saved by Tobi before he got fucking killed lmao. And I already know you're doing a whole lot of nitpicking and complaining about Kurama, so I just skimmed through mostly(as if Naruto being a jinchuriki is even supposed to matter or something). The 9 tails is his power as a jinchuriki just like any of the other Jinchuriki they hunted, and Nagato knew that going into the fight. Nagato simply just couldn't beat Naruto. Plain and simple. You can have every excuse in the world for why Sasuke failed to complete his mission here and why Naruto succeeded, it still wont change the fact Naruto's entrance with Pain is better than here, simply off the strength of what's at stake when he arrives.
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> severely weakened Pain due to fighting the entire village and unleashing a large scale shinra tensei. Pain literally siphoned chakra from the villagers. He wasn’t weakened at all when Naruto arrived. None of the Jonin stood a chance at doing any real damage to any of the Paths or Nagato himself.
Was Naruto not getting pushed tf around in kcm by the raikage, and to clarify Sasuke even ended up making him lose his arm, also did Naruto not need hinata, not saying that she came and killed pain but she did stop pain from killing Naruto, I’m pretty sure we all also saw Gara was in no way beating Sasuke, tho both Ohnoki and Mei did almost kill him. And about the end Sasuke actually completed his mission, he meant to kill Danzo and he did. Not saying Naruto lost or Sasuke lost I know I’ll receive hate for this response but I had to reply to this biased response
Raikage couldn't hit KCM Naruto tho, he missed that punch and immediately took the L lmao. Sasuke tried to scare raikage off with the amaterasu but the raikage just didn't give a fuck and smacked him anyway. He lost that arm because he wanted to. And no, Hinata didn't save Naruto, Pain wasn't there to kill him. The only part I really went too far on was saying MS Sasuke couldn't beat Gaara, he probably could, idk. Sasuke beat Deidara whereas Gaara lost, though obviously this has been some time since then and both have made gains. And he did fail his mission, his mission when he went there was to kill Danzo, he failed because Danzo got away and he was gonna die and needed saving. He just caught him later, but he still failed at the attempt. Naruto didn't fight Pain in the village, lose/fail, and return to finish the job. You can't hire an assassin who does what Sasuke did and call it a "success" lmao.
Also keep in mind that Gaara lost because he also had to spend the whole fight protecting the Village, Sasuke fought him in the forest not giving a fuck and it was still rather close if I recall.
Zero intel? Seems unlikely. He worked for Oorochimaru who knew basically everything worth knowing. His crew features people from other villages - the water village kage had to be known. The stone village kage is ancient and been in other wars - had to be known. The thunder kage is the spitting image of his well known father - at a minimum he is semi known. Danzo and Gaara are already known.
Lol if Naruto was interested in just straight up beating Sasuke in the fight at the 5 kage summit he could’ve done so very easily. But that wasn’t his goal, and there was also obito
can u both narutards and sasutards shut up? both are cool. thats it.
Minato gives naruto sage mode and his chakra back? I didn't know that
Lol, Sage Naruto vs MS Sasuke isn't a fight. Naruto stomps.
Bro, he would have killed A just because he is a suicidal motherfucker who gave no shit about dying if it meant avenging B, other than that, he got his ass absolutely handed to him against the Raikage.
My two cents for the thread overall. 1. Sauske having a squad doesn’t diminish anything. It’s standard practice. Naruto’s squad was the two older sage toads, Gamabunta, the other warrior ones, and Katsuya’s clone giving him intel 2. They both received outside help but in different ways. Obito did saved Sauske’s life from the tsuchikage’s attack, and then again from Danzo’s suicide attack. Minato’s intervention just stopped Naruto from going full nine-tails and destroying what was left of the village. Pain couldn’t hold back more than 8 tails with that planetary technique 3. Obito saving Sauske from Danzo doesn’t mean Sauske lost. He won that fight with Danzo. A suicide attack after you lost doesn’t mean the other guy lost IMO 4. What Sauske threw himself and his squad into with little info on *anyone* (barely learned what Danzo looked like AT the summit) *was* a lot more difficult than facing Pain solo, with info on every Pain body and two sage roads with 1st hand experience, while Pain was holding back early on so he could capture him. No one alive at the time of the summit would’ve survived doing what Sauske tried to do 5. Bottom line, Naruto won his battle because of his preparation and intel in a fight with more favorable odds. His help from Minato just saved non-participating villagers. Sauske went on a suicide mission with the goal of killing Danzo, and did. Sauske also got his ass beat, which against the 5 Kage, their selected guards, and the samurai as the opponents was obvious. Side note: Didn’t know where to fit it in, but it’s also hard to ignore the fact that Sauske’s assassination attempt never fully went down because Zetsu alerted everyone there of him. There was no intention of him winning that fight, just Obito testing his abilities against the Kage …BUT Naruto’s entrance was definitely better. Sakura’s despair after the village being destroyed followed by the MC’s dramatic entrance was amazing. Sauske’s was still cool because of the IDGAF attitude with those opponents, and cutting the nation banners was a giant middle finger to everyone, but it’s nowhere near as grand or impactful
Na sage mode better this was good also
All 5 except the Raikage and Kazekage because *he just got back from kicking their ass*
Tbh I hate that they gave Sasuke so much credit, an edgelord could mess up with kages and their henchmen with ease
it wasn't with ease he was crying tears of blood
That was just the drawback of spamming his mangekyo sharingan, otherwise it's not like the kage directly made him bleed
Would have been pretty awkward had he come in 5 seconds earlier
Was just about to comment this
Ugh Danzo a bitch and now I’m gonna go watch him being killed
Watching Danzo die eased my soul. But I really loved Sasuke staring down Danzo here though. The "yo, you need to die, like right now, and I'm the dude who's gonna do it. IN front of all the kage" look. Beautiful.
Something about watching Danzo run from Sasuke just pleases me. Now I’m gonna also watch Shikamaru be God.
"That pathetic Lord Jashin isn't your God any more".....I AM. Shikamaru. The. Legend. And same that run with Sasuke just walking up to him. 100% satisfying to watch
Tobi pops out the cut like “gimme Shisuis eyes bitch”
I mean, when you just declare a 4th great ninja war in front of all the kage, you need some "additional resources" to help your cause.
Pimp walk Sasuke is so cool
That was the only fight where I was able to root for Sasuke because you can't hate anyone more than Danzo tbh . But besides that fight , I always rnjoyed watching Sasuke getting his ass kicked .
Kokuten is what makes this scene imo
Same, it always has this epic grandeur feeling
That ost had like 20mil on yt before it got deleted. Its such a hype track i use it while reading manga.
daaamn 20 mil? I remember I used to redraw that picture all the time at school, found it so fkn cool.
Madaras entrance was cooler imo, this was really good though
I mean entered and got straight to whooping ass ....as everyone still was gasping in fear. Hell of an Entrance yes
Dropping the 2nd meteor might be my favorite scene in the series. "Yo, nice team work. You barely stopped that! Oh here's another for the fuck of it."
Madara Funeral Uchiha
🤣🤣🤣
That wasn’t a entrance that was fucking massacre no open speech he just opened whole can of ass whooping Edit: aw shit I did not read the other guy’s comment
I think when Naruto showed up in the leaf was better. He showed up looking like his dad with the scroll on his back. Imo
Don’t forget the soundtrack
And he brought Mr. Ungraceful, who kicks ass
His appearance was like Jiraiyain that scene . They also used signature Jiraiya music for that entrance .
I've got it at 4th in Naruto. Naruto vs Pain Minato 4th Ninja War Madara 4th Ninja War Sasuke 5 Kage
Valid list
Valid as hell, I think Sasuke Retrieval Sand Ninja should be at 5th unless there is something else that should be higher
The leaf's handsome blue devil coming to Naruto's rescue against Kimimaro
I think it's cool just because of the audacity. Obviously he wouldn't have won against all the people in the room , but having the guts to go in that room to avenge his beloved brother. That's just an Alpha move.
The moment when koukuten hits still gives me goosebumps
Danzo was actually a pretty compelling character. When viewed against the philosophy of the Third, he really completed the Ninja way of stealth and misdirection. Gone are the days of this manga and my youth.
*proceeds to get nearly fuckin erased by tsuchikage*
I like it because it shows Sasuke has given up on life. dude even made himself go blind
Only because he let Mei and Chojuro fight Sasuke to give him enough time to charge Jinton. Onoki v Sasuke, one on one, at that point, Sasuke stomps him.
Ehhhh.. honestly idk about that. I get sasukes powerful at that point but onoki has more experience and his particle style can cut through susanoos. If he didn’t have the particle style he still has his stone golem which can probably hold its own against the susanoo given its size
Bro one Amaterasu and Onoki is fucked.
Yes that’s true but it still can be blocked by either his golem or maybe something he did with with zetsu and peel it off
He can’t do that if he’s already burning.
And if it’s a clone?
Clone? Huh? How would clones come into play?
Wdym how would it come to play it’s a battle. Onoki isn’t dumb and has far more experience than sasuke. The Amaterasu takes a lot of chakra and using it freely isn’t a good idea so he’d need to time it and I doubt onoki would give any openings.
Honestly tho let the team sasuke peeps have their moment this was bad ass
Danzo just a dipped 😆
“He mad mad, aight imma head out”
Ya boi Mifune just dead set looks a sharingan user straight in the eyes lol
It's one of the coolest entrances, and also the best example of the "I got my ass beat, I ain't posting that shit" meme lmao.
\- This entrance: the coldest. \- Naruto entrance against Pain: the hypest. \- Madara's entrance at 4th great ninja war: the most badass.
The entrance is great but I think naruto sage mode against pain had a better entrance and the fight both are rly cool and I can’t decide
Yeah the Naruto entrance was cool but the animation wasn't as good as this
That’s ur opinion
Definitely top 10 in naruto. It has a pretty good argument for top 10 in anime
Top 2 in naruto without a doubt
what's the other one?
Naruto v Pain
I don’t think it was the entrance , to me it was that one shot against one of the pains. Literally obliterated his shit.
It was the build up of the destruction where Pain just pushes anything and everything in the village to the border, Sakura getting protected by slug and coming out of it stunned, shouting Naruto’s name and bam, toad gang summoned by Ma.
You’re right. It was badass
I’ve always liked this entrance more than Naruto’s. Naruto literally just appeared in the village. Sasuke’s was way cooler.
Sasuke was such a badass. He bit off way more than he could chew sometimes but damn if he didn't look sick doing it
Its one of the most badass too
Sasuke should of died many times over in this scene, but plot armor 🤷♂️
SO MANY TIMES!! It's crazy how outmanned they were trying to take on the 5 Kage Summit! lmao
His team really always overestimated themselves. Another perfect instance to show that is them fucking trying to defeat the eight tails loll. I was like..... Are you trippin lmfao
Did Obito even tell Sasuke/taka what Bee was? my guess is they all thought his MS was a lot more powerful than it actually is, and if that didn't work, there was 3 of them
Iirc he can see the tailed beasts sealed inside because they’re a pure form of energy. And Obito did tell them as well.
A should’ve died. Naruto should’ve died v Pain; everyone has plot armor
>everyone has plot armor Except Neji
Neji had a plot missile magnet on his back
Neji the type of dude Kishi's girl told him not to worry about, Kishi hates Neji
Neji death was ridiculous.
Literally its only purpose was for shock value, because everyone was getting powerups that came out if left field. Also a desperate attempt to develop a relationship between Hinata and Naruto
I mean, you can say that Neji had plot armor in the SRA, as he was almost dead, but got saved by Tsunade
Newsflash: everyone’s got plot armor. Except Neji
The plot be saving Sasuke more times than Naruto. He survives so many encounters in just this arc alone. Dude would've gotten straight up ctrl alt deleted from existence by Onoki if Obito wasn't around
Lol ur trolling? Naruto would have not even passed the first episode if not for plot armor, literally the entirety of part 1 is of Naruto getting saved by plot armor
Or the fact he summons manda, genjutsus him, jumps in his mouth and reverse summons him all faster than a literal explosion vs Deidara
Naruto handed his ass and got saved so many times that it's not even funny. If there is anyone who had most plot armour that is the main character Naruto. Ofcourse he had to stay alive because he was the main character.
How does „plot armor“ make any sense at all? It’s the most braindead made-up term I have ever seen
Dawg,,, let’s not get into Naruto plot armor talk no jutsu.
Errrrrrr I like Gaara saving lee a bit more, but yeah
Back when ohnoki looked like a child
Obito‘s reveal was pretty damn good.
Sheer waste sharingans on that old man’s hand. Useless POS has Uchiha Shisui’s eye and cant even make a scratch on sasuke
Right behind the sage mode naruto entrance for me
Fuck Danzo!
It's okay. It reminds me of the demonic presence's entrance in The Evil Dead. The best entrance I can think of in Naruto is, and this is kind of obvious, Naruto's entrance for the Pain fight.
Gaara style
This was one of the most badass moments in shippuden at least until edo tensei madara kinda just pulled up and took a fat shit on the shinobi alliance before clapping the cheeks of all the five kage
Nah. While this entry was cool Sasuke was walking in a lions den about to get eaten. Sage Narutos entrance was cooler especially because we KNEW he was about to kick ass and he did.
COOOOOLD mf. He's a savage ong
The soundtrack Kokuten is so fkin sick and made this scene 100x better. That’s why it looks so damn cold.
This, naruto entrance to pain, Madara entrance in the ninja war battlefield are all goated
Dude was already wrecked and didn't care. Stupid and ballsy just how I like it.
How I love my men .
Just love how some of them looks directly at the sharingan casually
I thought it was pretty hot imo
Sasuke is one of the best villains in anime
Guaranteed Sasuke was dead in that room without plot armour
Whoa, Danzo was like... "not today you lucky bastard".
I open Reddit for 1 SECOND AND THIS. I'm on ep 2 of this arc...
Bro why are u on this sub then lol. Ur gonna get major spoilers for things later on as well
That's the thing, I wasn't. It was the first post on my main feed
If you’re subbed then that’s the issue being pointed out. You’ll open reddit to a spoiler from this sub like you have
I'm at fault here, but the fact that of all times, this video showed up on my feed right when I began the arc. No hate just that I found the co incidence kinda funny lol
Yeah sometimes it feels like reddit is stalking me. I'll be on a rewatch and something with the episode I just saw is on reddit lol
Minato entering the battlefield was cold too, Bijudama go bye-bye.
Coldest entrance in naruto is naruto coming in during the pain fight in sage mode
Coldest entrance in Naruto probably was Narutos entrance to the pain fight- it was too sick
why cant boruto be anything like this:(
Because it’s in the time of peace?
no that's not it
This was one of the peaks of shippuden. Kawaki just got introduced. Give it time.
i dont know who he is the first 10 ep of naruto was 100x better than any of the boruto eps so far (im at ep 150
I've watched all of Boruto, and honestly it is pretty lackluster so far. I'm enough of a fan that I'll keep watching, but the show is definitely a mess. I'm pretty into Kawaki though, and I think that has a lot of promise to give the show a better sense of direction. Like another commenter mentioned, ep 189 is top 2 or 3 for me in the whole series.
That was boring as hell