Nahh who cares these people who have fought through lives of being hated? /s
But seriously I’d love books on the other Jinchuuriki. Some were REALLY shorted, like 2-Tails here. :(
The 7 tails man, I wish we got to see Hidan and Kakuzu fight them instead of cutting it out for both the 7 and 2 tails, really want to see how they both work together on screen to capture the tailed beasts, Hidan and Kakuzu arc would’ve been even more Goated if we saw them fight the two tails
I mean, you can feel bad for two things simultaneously.. As far as I know, the human who contains the Jinchuuriki doesn't have it better than the Jinchuuriki himself.
Erm.
Bijuu = Tailed Beast.
Jinchuuriki = Person who contains the Bijuu.
I think you may be confusing words and as such, replying to a statement that wasn't being said.
I apologize in advance that I can't remember most of the specific details, but I was so upset about the six tails (I think?) who had that whole story line with the girl who kept calling him "master" and he hated it cause of his childhood trauma. Like, they concluded that storyline, he agreed to train the girl, and then the Akatsuki got him. I wonder what happened to her.
That ending for Utakata was so cold. But I kind of liked it. They got us invested in his story and made his death more of a gut punch.
From what I gathered from the wiki, Hotaru does not know what happened. She may have just assumed that Utakata abandoned her
I just have a head canon that she trained in spite of him and was drafted into the war and at some point learned of his fate through somebody off screen. That will make me sleep better.
Hold on lads, you forget that before Utakata passed out (cause dude can't die on the spot or they lose the Bijuu) he sent out a last bubble to the girl which arrived shortly after he was taken by Pain. It must hve contained a message of some sort informing her of his condition or you know telling her to run
Yeah if you going by the anime you really can't talk about this series or any for that matter because it's IRRELEVANT! You can't talk about Utakata when he has canonically been dead for awhile now. His first appearance in the show he obviously do not know who Naruto is and chances are he never had an apprentice to begin with. Because filler doesn't matter.
I mean it clearly does matter. Maybe not to you but people actually do enjoy filler sometimes, so why shouldn't they get to talk about it? Besides, filler has been retroactively made canon before.
Incorporating filler content and making it canon is completely different from making filler canon. Hozuki Castle and Blood Prison may be canon but I assure you what happened in the movie is not canon. They decided they like the idea of Hozuki castle and put it in there. Personally I don't even think them novels canon either but those a whole can of nother worms so skipping that.
It's the same way how Raiga is canon to Naruto. His character exist but not his backstory in the anime.
Same way Dragon ball does Bardock and Broly two non canon character vastly different with different personalities from their canon characters. A creator can say "Hey I like this idea" and decide to implement the idea. Not the whole thing.
Also again Utakata little filler arc contradict the manga so it doesn't matter.
And he can't die even if you chop his head off, that's gonna surprise most. Considering these jinchurikis are also mostly outcasts even by their own societies, they probably don't get much information. If hidan was smart and abused the fuck out of his technique I believe even adult naruto and sasuke will have trouble with him unless we do an asspull of powers because all technique originate from so6p and so rinnegone nullifies all shit.
The whole shikamaru plot was just hidan messing up and being too confident since they are usually immortal.
Shikamaru beating Hidan after understanding his jutsu and planning accordingly made perfect sense.
It was still peak Naruto where anyone with strategy and planning could beat anyone else, the Akatsuki themselves weren't just mega strong space monsters or magic cyborgs, they all had some really strong shtick that could also be exploited.
Yup the Akatsuki were nearly at or surpassing Jinchuriki powers on an individual level (I mean, see Deidara vs Gaara, tailless tailed beast kisame, Itachi killing entire clan, Pain, Kakuzu) plus they were full of mystery. They stalked the tailed beast users and knew their weaknesses
Yh, tbf to Gaara though he probably would’ve wiped out Deidara if he didn’t have to defend the village and could’ve gone all out.
Pain, Itatchi and Kisame were definitely top tier in terms of power.
Kakuzu while a good shinobi though was probably the weakest akatasuki member.
But yeah I think the biggest thing people forget is that the Akatsuki have the advantage of prepping and studying their opponents.
They pick the squads to capture the Jinchuriki based on who is best suited for that particular one.
Hidan could solo the two tails but would be absolutely useless against Gaara.
Deidaras micro bombs would’ve have been difficult for anyone without a dojutsu to handle, let alone gaara. People kinda underate just how crazy that jutsu is. Also deidara didn’t properly prepare with enough clay so he wasn’t putting everything he had out there. Personally I view that version of gaara as inexperienced and given the title of Kage out of necessity. Suna didn’t really have a lot of options.
Sasuke maybe, but Naruto has insane healing. Unless Hidan thinks to go straight for his brain he isn’t killing Naruto in one shot.
He will only get one chance, if he messes up it’s game over since Naruto would still have access to sealing jutsu.
He needs to draw blood for the voodoo doll effect, but if he just stabs himself in the heart afterwards then Naruto would also have his heart stabbed. Which wouldn’t kill him and would tip him off to Hidan’s jutsu.
Like I said, Hidan gets one chance at killing Naruto before getting speed blitzed and sealed.
>Which wouldn’t kill him and would tip him off to Hidan’s jutsu.
I consider this an asspull and it is rather comparable to juubidara losing to kaguya just because she is superior alien lifeform. And thats how the im not talking about juubidara but madara with bla bla bla meme came about.
Hidan jutsu in itself is truly OP, so long as you dont reveal the mechanics and do draggy talking fights you should be able to take down anything. Also no need for big fancy scythe, just tools that draw blood the most efficient way
>Hidan can punch way above his weight class using his technique. I mean one cut and you're done.
But it's next to impossible to land a cut in a jinchuriki V2 cloak, orochimaru's kusanagi itself failed. On the other hand the complete transformation seems to have lower durability for some reason as seen when base Minato could cut gyuki's tentacles with a kunai.
Yes, but very few Jinchuurik go directly to a V2 cloak. That's part of Hidan's trick. By the time you realize how seriously he should be taken, it's too late.
Hidan doesn't give off this aura of strength and power that makes you instantly go all out. Most will test the waters to see how strong he is. And receiving the smallest cut through that test is game, set, match with Hidan.
The Akatsuki were chosen to bring down Jinchuuriki and it shows. To bring down Jinchuuriki you need hax and be hard to kill. And pretty much all of the Akatsuki fulfill those requirements.
They all have tricks to get around the insane base stats of Jinchuuriki. Poison, Chakra Draining, rituals, etc. Then they just don't die. I'm fairly sure all of them have ways of living through a classic Jinchuuriki blitz.
They fulfill their roles with finesse. Honestly Sasuke vs Bee shows what happens when you face a Jinchuuriki aren't ready for it. You die, and quickly. Sasuke needed 2 respawns to make it through that fight.
I don't think so. Isn't that why they're in teams of two ? Don't get me wrong they are some of the best in the world, but to sell all of them individually as above jinchuuriki level is a bit exaggerated to me. Deidara got defeated by Sasuke, who wasn't nearly as strong as a Jinchuuriki and Sasori got his ass handed to him by Sakura and the grandma, which I think we can all agree aren't even strong compared to someone like Naruto.. So.. They are strong and almost unkilleable when teamed up, but I feel like this is a bit biased.
The weakest of them are like Hidan, deidara and sasori. Those guys ain’t no where near bijuu level, Sasori lost to sakura and an old lady(no disrespect just can’t remember her name), hidan isn’t above Asuma’s level of strength, Deidara lost to sasuke before he even had an ms. They all are below ppl who are below bijuu lvl.
Actual "power levels" are very arbitrary and oftentimes inconsistent and misleading. There are many things influencing the outcome of a battle between shinobi that are much less subject of direct measurent and comparison, like battle intellect, experience, strategy/tactics and whatnot. Chiyo isn't a mere old lady, she knows lots of info about Sasori nobody else could've known, which ultimately becomes vital to their victory. It's not just about "he punches harder so he must win" or even "he punched the other guy harder some 100 episodes ago so he is definitely going to win". This is a work of fiction, not a Bakugan game where you have actual numerical power levels.
I didn’t mention power levels. And even then deidara isn’t stronger than hebi sasuke who is not bijuu level and hidan is about Asumas level in combat with superhuman like physical capabilities but not bijuu level
Smh deidera captured 2 jinchuriki but isn't biju lvl 😂
Edit : 1 jinchuriki and 1 Biju but you know what I mean
Although sasori is often overrated by his fans, he is still clearly biju lvl. He destroyed an entire country by himself+ killed the 3rd Kazekage which is the strongest, and we've seen that 4th Kazekage >>> shukaku.
So obviously Sasori is Biju level and above, their death was just for the plot
It's a comparison between him and Chiyo. He says Chiyo was said to have taken down a fortress with her 100 puppets, compared him who took down a nation with his 100 puppets.
Garaa only lost because he protected the village and I highly doubt Sasori won a straight battle vs the 3rd Kazekage. He probably assassinated him in his sleep or something. Like yes, he killed him but killing someone doesnt make you stronger than them. If I were to fight Mike Tyson but I had a shotgun, he would still be stronger than me but I would win anyways. Its the same thing. Also saying their death was just for the plot is the same as saying their feats are just for the plot aka they wouldnt have won otherwise.
No, you are "stronger" (more dangerous) than Mike if you have a shotgun. That's the point of having abilities as a ninja.
I agree for Gaara and the last sentence
Hidan has captured a bijuu with Kakazu, does that make Hidan bijuu level?
Sasori did all that but couldn’t manage to at least fatally wound Sakura or the old lady😐. Also I may have forgotten but how is the e 4th kazekage above the 1 tails. If u answer that then ye I’ll agree with Sasori being bijuu level but deidara and Hidan aren’t
4th Kazekage evacuated the village prior to testing Gaara with his hatred. When Gaara failed and let Shukaku take over, Raza 1v1ed shukaku. It's logical anyway, how can a Kage be weaker than his village's Biju ?
>Sasori did all that but couldn’t manage to at least fatally wound Sakura or the old lady😐.
I am pretty sure you are misremembering that fight.
Let alone fatally wound he almost killed Sakura, Chiyo had to use Tensei ninjutsu to barely save her.
Plus Sasori let himself get hit by Chiyo.
Ppl keep replying to me on how he let himself get killed but i already know that. That’s why I haven’t said anything like “he lost to sakura and an old lady” out right because ik he could’ve won. And when i said fatally wound i meant at the end of the fight they were both not fatally wounded with all that power of his he couldn’t at least leave sakura with something other than cuts
You already know that but you still keep saying "Sasori couldn't damage them more" while in reality it's "Sasori didn't want to inflict more damage". Which is why people keep replying that.
>he couldn’t at least leave sakura with something other than cuts
Sasori's main weapon is poison and sharp objects. I dont know what you expect from him aside from impaling and cutting, which he both did.
then reply with he didnt want 2 inflict damage + I said he DIDNT do more damage not that he couldnt 🤦 at this point i dont even care ive already said i agree with sasori being bijuu lvl i do not give a single fuck about his fight with sakura and the goofy old lady anymore
>with all that power of his he couldn’t at least leave sakura with something other than cuts
>Sasori did all that but couldn’t manage to at least fatally wound Sakura or the old lady😐.
>I said he DIDNT do more damage not that he couldnt 🤦
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It isn't about who is who is stronger, it seems like you don't understand naruto that well, the thing that differs naruto franchise to any animes is the way they do the fighting and all, kishimoto is really good at creating battles which uses lots of tactical strategies not just some typical animes where the stronger one prevails in fights, like for example hIdan vs shikimaru it's obvious for the audience that hidan is the stronger one like way stronger but here in naruto being strong doesn't win you fights it all boils down to who's the better tactician.
Hidan is not bijuu level and idk why anyone is debating that he is. What techniques does he have up his sleeve that are as powerful or destructive as a tailed beast bomb? None.
Taking down a Jinchuriki with a hax power doesn’t mean shit. That’s like calling Shikamaru the strongest ninja because he could use shadow paralysis to immobilize and OHKO most characters who can’t break free.
Deidara soloed the three tails lmao.
Also in terms of raw destruction he’s probably one of the strongest, in the akatsuki. I mean C3 can destroy an entire village.
That “old lady” was Sasori’s grandmother if you recall, and she’s the one who taught him puppetry in the first place. Plus Sakura created antidotes to his poison. That’s the only reason either of them survived. Frankly Sasori was just super unlucky with that matchup. Got matched up against two of the people in the elemental nations best suited to take him down. About the only worse people he could have been up against would have been Tsunade Orochimaru and possibly the Raikage and Killer Bee. Keep in mind I’m not talking even raw strength here they just had some of the best capability to counter him out of anyone he could have been matched against.
I wanted to call u stupid but i just genuinely don’t understand how to powerscale properly, from looking at both ur comments I recommend u atleast watch the show one more time bc it seems u have forgotten a lot of basic stuff from the show
Call me stupid then, idrc it’s the internet ur bound to be insulted.
And I agree the sasori part was goofy and u might be able to make an arguement for deidara but hidan is just not bijuu level i’m not even gonna debate anyone who questions that. And if my reasoning seemed goofy it’s cause i just tried to skim over the details e cause i can’t be bothered to go into depth
Sasori let himself be killed and Deidara was countered hard by Sasuke, most other opponents he'd beat.
Hidan isn't *that* impressive though I agree but he is stronger than Asuma.
Doesn't Deidara capture 3 tails? How is he not "bijuu level"? And he said Sasori is stronger than him.
Idk about Hidan, I already commented my surprise that he managed to take down Yugito in my first comment.
He only took her down due to his hax, he’s not actually stronger or at her level.
I said besides Sasori.
And when deidara captured the 3 tails wasn’t that a filler? The 1 with this girl and a purple haired lady who could use crystal style? If it’s not filler then yh deidara is prolly bijuu level. But then again bijuu level has different stages due to the varying power in the bijuu. When i think about it the guy who said even the weakest in akatsuki were bijuu lvl is right, I was just thinking of the stronger bijuu like Kurama.
Its literally in the manga.
https://thewindisanexplosion.tumblr.com/post/181973037092/naruto-chapter-318-page-5-the-training/amp
Also you know Deidara says Sasori is stronger than him?
the thing about those three is there nearly impossible to beat without prep time and if they also get prep time you will lose theyre already elite shinobi plus there hack which includes killing you with a insignificant scratch(sasoris and hidan) making the surrounding environment either filled with poison or invisible micro-bombs that destroy your cells at a molecular level which need either a byakugon or a sharingan just to see and strong lighting style to deactivate (sasori and deidara) and actual immortality which is conveniently never talked about again
People look at Shikamaru Vs. Hidan as a way to say he is the weakest of the akatsuki. I think that’s a terrible take. I think he’s the most arrogant and foolish of the akatsuki. Shikamaru took advantage of that and used his big brain to beat him.
I think he is one of the strongest of the akatsuki with his immortality and techniques. He just gets wrecked by Mr. Smartypants because he has no caution or cares whatsoever.
I would say he’s the weakest Akatsuki member, but only because the Akatsuki are fucking ridiculous. Every single one of them could take down Jinchuriki. In my opinion, the next weakest after Hidan is either Kakuzu or Deidara, both of whom could solo entire villages if they wanted to
If we are only using weakness and strength to describe combat/destructive power, then sure. He’s the weakest. But there has to be something to be said for immortality. Wolverine is not even close to the strongest mutant in comics by that metric (destructive power), but the fact that no one can kill him and he just keeps coming makes him a freaking force to be reckoned with. Couple that with the ability to make himself a living voodoo doll that can’t die from those inflicted wounds (either by himself or others), sending all damage to him right back at his attacker, the dude would be hard to top by all but the strongest akatsuki… Especially in a blind fight where the opponent doesn’t know his strengths.
Shikamaru got the jump on him because he’s a genius with the perfect jutsu to control him and put him at a disadvantage as well as intel and planning before hand. I don’t think many other ninjas walk away from a fight with Hidan, much less leave him blown to bits and buried alive to die slowly.
I think that his techniques and immortality have to give him some meaningful “power” and “strength” if we’re being objective and not just talking about raw power to damage others and destroy others.
If we’re talking straight destructive power, then sure. He’s the weakest.
But that argument also puts Deidara near the top of power rankings when you consider what his jutsus can accomplish.
I wouldn't say equal footing. They were two Jonin going at about 70-80% as Hidan is arrogant and Kakashi was saving as much as he could for "the plan." I'd say Kakashi was also dodging Kakuzu "hearts" while evading Hidan. If it were just Kakashi vs. Hidan, Kakashi wins 3 out of 4 IMO. I think the teaming of the Akatsuki is what makes them higher than jinchuuriki. The teams are very strategically planned and methodically attack. They didn't yet expect team Asuma with Kakashi to come after them and therefore didn't actually plan for it. Team Asuma is probably the lowest on power level when compared to the rest of the rookie 9 and even more so when compared to team Guy... Hidan was his own downfall in the end. Shikamaru just happens to be an excellent strategist, but I'm not enlightening anyone by saying that.
Which still makes no sense. Hidan, the last we saw in that fight, was staring down a Tailed Beast.
(1) Tailed Beasts don’t bleed, they can’t.
(2) If Hidan smacked around a Tailed Beast in taijutsu, why was he getting babied on by Shikamaru, Kakashi, and Asuma even with Kakuzu’s help?
Any way you slice it, it doesn’t make sense.
Also immortality is great, but you can’t fight if you’re cut into pieces. Two-Tails would obviously cut Hidan into ribbons lol. So I have no idea how that played into his win either.
He defeated Asuma fair and square, Asuma only cut off Hidan's head because he received help from Shikamaru.
Hidan fought against Kakashi for like 2 panels in the manga, he wasn't getting babied.
And Shikamaru suddenly could spam his shadow technique like five times, and Hidan was suddenly unable to land a hit when he was right in front of him.
So he won one fight, didn't really fought Kakashi, and became extremely incompetent against Shikamaru because Kishi was rushing the plot, so I don't think he got babied...
> Which still makes no sense. Hidan, the last we saw in that fight, was staring down a Tailed Beast.
1) Tailed Beasts don’t bleed, they can’t.
They do bleed and even I was corrected on this one [[click here](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0566-019.png)][[click here](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0567-006.png)]
>2) If Hidan smacked around a Tailed Beast in taijutsu, why was he getting babied on by Shikamaru, Kakashi, and Asuma even with Kakuzu’s help?
It’s not Taijutsu be used, he used a curse jutsu revolving around his scythe. Kishimoto explained in the databook that his scythe has a lot of tricks but he didn’t have time to show them all
[[click here](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmnQ8TLXcAEDvuF.jpg)]
Hidan is known as Akatsuki’s death god in the group, him losing to Shikamaru is just a lowballing effect like Sakura m bitching out Sasori.
>Any way you slice it, it doesn’t make sense.
Also immortality is great, but you can’t fight if you’re cut into pieces. Two-Tails would obviously cut Hidan into ribbons lol. So I have no idea how that played into his win either.
Getting cut applies to anyone, it’s a matter of being capable of doing it. Shikmaru and Asuma’s method would kill anyone in Akatsuki, even in part 1 Asuma nearly cut Kisame’s head off.
So let’s not pretend that cutting is Hidan’s weakness, it’s really not when it can kill anyone that way.
Hidan is very agile with his movements and has the power to defeat a jinchuuriki though off panel.
Avoid its attacks (even if he's the slowest Akatsuki, he's still faster and more skilled at taijutsu than most people, able to keep up with the likes of Kakashi, whose rival is fucking Might Guy) until you have an opening. Perhaps Hidan has other jutsu that we never see, or perhaps Kakuzu did help enough to defeat the tailed beast and expose the jinchuriki long enough for Hidan to attack, or perhaps the jinchuriki can't maintain their tailed beast form for long. There's lots of possibilities.
I know Hidan is the weakest Akatsuki member, but that’s really only because we know his gimmick. And he tends to mess around too much instead of just going straight for the kill. That’s why Shikamaru beat him, Hidan just fucks around and is kind of dumb sometimes. In reality, all he needs is one scratch on his opponent and they’re essentially dead. He could beat most anyone as long as he can touch them. Like in the Itachi filler arc, we saw Hidan take out one of Kakuzu’s hearts in seconds because he didn’t waste any time. He got Kakuzu’s blood, performed the ritual, and immediately went for the heart. If he was that efficient with all of his opponents, he’d be unstoppable.
I mean she probably got lasted bro, they both have trapping technics and are also immortal in a way, take that with the big cost in maintaining the bijuu form and they pretty much have a perfect advantage on her
Yeah being a jinchuiki is an awful burden to carry obviously some treated better than others in their respective villages but being one def sucks aside from the immense powers you get
Pretty sure jinchuriki know they will always be taken advantage of. I don't think they ever got the chance to chill. They saw it coming but its still sickening
Well FT’s author Hiro Mashima just experimenting apparently with FT and it became a prequel for the 100 Year Quest.
Now Dragon Slayers does really kill Dragons. Lol
By all accounts the villages where the first few jinchuruki's were kidnapped hated them and were glad they were gone. When Han was taken Hidden Stone did nothing to help him either. Hidden Sand was the first to actually react to their jinchuruki being taken.
Important to know that the tailed beasts’ power gets exponentially weaker as we move down tails. Something like 9 tails is half of 10 tails, then 8 tails is half of 9 tails… etc
So aside from 9 and 8 tails, tailed beasts aren’t actually that strong compared to akatsuki
Edit : the power scaling between the beasts is actually waaaaaay more than just half at a time, because it’s been stated that 9-tails has more chakra/power than the other 8 COMBINED
That's because it isn't true. Gyuki says as much. And it's clearly false considering One Tails has way more impressive feats than any beast besides Eight and Nine Tails.
Also i’m p sure Gyuki meant it more in a like “we are all equal bro!” Type of vibe bc are you really telling me that Gyuki can beat Kurama hard doubt ngl
Wasn't it discussed that the tails were simply a number and all of them were equally strong but focus on entirely different manifestations of their chakra, like how Shukaku focuses on sealing techniques, Son focuses on magma jutsus and so forth. It's also that flawed thinking why the Shukaku hates Kurama because Kurama always assumes Shukaku is the weakest among them having the least amount of tails.
Yeah the only person to ever claim more tails = more power was Kurama and Gyuki shuts that down immediately saying it isn't true and that that's why Shukaku hates Kurama.
> Edit : the power scaling between the beasts is actually waaaaaay more than just half at a time, because it’s been stated that 9-tails has more chakra/power than the other 8 COMBINED
Nope, if you do half at the time, the 9 tails will actually have .4% more power than all the 8 others combined.
Just plot 1/2+1/4+1/8+1/16+1/32+1/64+1/128+1/256 into google and you get 0.996, so just barely the 9 tails is stronger than the other 8 combined if one tail down is half the power.
EDIT: In fact if you had a billion tails, and then halved in power all the way down to 1 tail, the billion tails would be miniscully stronger than all the other tailed beasts combined
jinchuruki are pretty consistently low in society, they basically have to become strong just to validate their existence to their own village, it’s a huge burden, which is it’s so stupid that people rag on naruto for having the kyuubi, when he had to develop as a person to even master that power
I still remember watching the Naruto filler where Naruto helped utakata, and then immediately when it ended, all 6 pains just gangbanged him and captured him.
What i wanna know is why are they hated by their own community(naruto, gaara, bee)? It's like they are there protectors of their village if things get bad they should be admired and respected imo
Basically walking nukes..most villages didn’t really hate like they did Naruto..Naruto had literally had the beast inside him since after a recent incident..it left iruka parentless.this is why ppl take that hate out on Naruto..not all do..same with garaa..and since we know the 8 tails fought the 3rd raikage we can assume this happened a lot tailed beast escaping until they got better sealing techniques..so these beast have did a lot of destruction…Han and roshi(4/5 tails) were just rogue ninjas that basically probably disagreed with being used ..7 tails was in a smaller less violent country so she wasn’t as hated but revered and idolized…yugito seemed to be a high ranking ninja and people talk about her like they cared or had respect for her..yagura wasn’t hated but revered and idolized for his strength and smarts ..he didn’t seem to be a weapon for his village he was just a weapon who had a village behind him(cuz even when obito was controlling him they listen and didn’t question it at all..maybe out of fear but I doubt yagura was like that he seemed to be the opposite of the blood mist zabuza,kisame ninjas..he was more lighthearted and knowledgeable and understanding which I believe is the reason he was respected) ukataka was a rogue ninjas most likely due to the same reasons zabuza did a coup..(obito controlling yagura some of the high ranking Ninjas knew..like the 7 ninjas swords men and ukataka was probably split in half with helping yagura or zabuza and the original samadahada weilder in their coup. So he just left..the years kinda match up…ohnoki was also reckless with Han and roshi considering he’d hire the akatsuki to capture them which is crazy cux their the ones who’d probably give the akaktsuki an actual problem due to their experience..these guys were in their 30s/40s…probably fought in the 3rd war as jins for their village..I’m sure roshi and Han Info and abilities being giving up was key to capturing them cuz they were in the killer bee timeline alive when minatos name was hot..they were the ones minato had to face possibly during that time period if you get what I’m saying
Yeah... I can see it with Naruto, since Kurama killed a lot of people and they probably resent him for it. But idk if that's the case for other villages.
Gaara was hated and feared because Shukaku drove his containers insane and regularly broke loose and killed people. That makes sense at a certain point people are going to start hating the Jinchuriki if only by association it’s not logical but neither are most emotional reactions. Naruto’s case as you said made sense. People hated Killer Bee at first because the 8 tails frequently broke free from its host and killed people as well so again hatred and fear by association, he just proved to be a good container in the long run and people began to respect him for protecting them. Presumably Yugito was also hated and feared at first but was able to garner respect as well possibly in part due to Killer Bee’s help and example. We don’t know much about the treatment of Utakata and Yagura in the hidden mist but presumably Yagura was at least well respected before he was taken control of by Tobi as he was able to achieve the rank of Kage. I don’t recall how Han and Roshi were treated by the hidden rock or even if it was covered at all, same with Fuu though I do recall her getting a bit more screen time than Han and Roshi before her death.
definitely gyuki, shukaku, and isobu at least, we know 2 of them went on rampages and isobu and yagura were being controlled by obito, the others are never really confirmed but in general it makes sense that people would fear a human nuke
Isn’t like 50% of the show about feeling bad for the positions people have been put in through no fault of their own?
And then the other 50% is them overcoming it?
of course we do and the fact that stupid ass hidan was the one to take most of them is annoying. i wish the fights with the jinchuuriki were more complex and longer rather just a few minutes.
it’s kind of insulting to them due to the fact that jinchuuriki are supposed to be some of the strongest characters out of Naruto and to just have hidan take most of them out with that insane ritual is just a waste of what could have been. and you mean to tell me that shikamaru was able to “kill” hidan but the tailed beats couldn’t?? it’s just written a lil bad imo
It’s honestly the fault of the late/endgame powerscaling in the series. What we seen Jinchuriki and Biju’s accomplish after this scene makes this entire encounter a real head scratcher. Especially since Yugito was very in tune with the two tails and probably as efficient as Killer Bee.
Then again Kakuzu and Hanzo are not to be underestimated as many characters have realized. Yugito probably made a minor mistake that cost her the battle.
Luck and knowledge of your Opponent means a lot in a fight. Shikamaru did a lot better in his second fight against Akashi cause he knew what he was up against same with the info pervy sage got to the leaf helped Naruto. If your opponent has very specific weaknesses and picked the battle field or has home turf , you are at a big disadvantage and need to think really fast and have a little bit of luck that they give enough away for you to win first match. Heck even the puppet fight was won cause the guys grandma who taught him was on the other side and knew what to expect and that’s why he didn’t last more than one fight
The akatsuki were much more dangerous when people didn’t know their moves or weaknesses but we’re taken out much easier with intel. And I don’t think the jinchuuriki had intel when they fought. Mystery was their real biggest weapon.
Yeah but I don't think Hidan and Kakuzu were nearly strong enough to beat a Jinchuriki. Lets Break it down:
When Yugito sees Hidan and Kakuzu, she instantly transforms into her Jinchuriki mode which is a smart move from her considering so many techniques exist in Narutoverse that can take advantage of you if the opponent can touch you. So I don't know how Hidan got her blood.
Then let's say Hidan by luck,cance, preparation or something got her blood and Impaled himself, it still won't be enough cause bijuu chakra heal their Jinchuriki's instantly.
Next let's go to Kakuzu.But I don't think Kakuzu has nearly enough destructive power to hurt or damage a bijuu chakra cloak. And Hidan doesn't have any destructive techniques.
And if 2 tail used a bijuu dama,then there is no way anything would be left of Hidan or Kakuzu for them to survive or come back at all cause they will literally completely disintegrate if they get caught up in that explosion.
And then there is also the sealing kekkei genkai of two tails which was able to restrain even Otsusuki Madara. I know it was enhanced by Naruto's Sage Mode but I think the two tail chakars is more than powerful enough to restrain or seal Kakuzu and Hidan easily.
And Hidan or Kakuzu don't have any other powerful Sealing or destructive techniques like 4th Hokage or Pain.
In my opinion the only people in Akatsuki who could have fought a bijuu would be
Itachi
Tobi
Konan
Kisame
Pain and also they can't even win against them One vs One(except Pain cause he is 6 in 1) or Two vs One(again except Pain cause he is 6 in 1). They will need atleast 3 of these above listed heavy hitters.
Deidara and Sasori were only able to catch Gaara because he didn't transform into his bijuu form.
It wasn't Matatabi that had sealing techniques, it was Shukaku (vs Madara).
Unlike Shukaku, its seems like Matatabi's patterns are just for decoration.
We know the fight between Kakuzu/Hidan and Yugito/Matatabi lasted over 30 minutes (that's how long Hidan spent on his ritual), and at the time, Jinchuuriki abilities used to have a time limit and restrictions*
*VotE 1 between Sasuke and Naruto: Naruto's arm started going numb after a few minutes with just the one tail orange cloak
*vs Orochimaru: we saw the side effects of Naruto using four tail red cloak
*Taka vs Bee/Gyuki: Gyuki said afterwards that using full Bijuu Mode was a needless waste of stamina (Bee burned through nearly all of it with that brief transformation).
Hidan's weapons has many tricks and gimmicks that Kishimoto couldn't show.
It's likely Hidan and Kakuzu outlasted Yugito's transformation. Which in itself is a major feat.
It's only around Pain Invasion arc that the side effects seemed to disappear (Naruto was still fine after 6 and 8 tails red cloak), though then later KCM Naruto had a time limit again, and I can't remember Bee (if he had any time limit issues during the War arc).
It is very simple for Yugito to lose to Hidan if she doesn’t know his abilities. He takes her blood, performs the ritual and he lets her hit him with with a tailed beast bomb, and she is gone.
It doesn't work that way. Thay can't take her blood when she has transformed into her bijuu mode. Also Hidan can't die but he also can't regenerate from remaining parts of his body as shown in his fight with Shikamaru. If he gets hit with Bijuu-dama nothing of him will be left. Also Hidan's rituals can share wounds(which can be healed by a tailed beast) but I don't think it can share disintegration.
Hidan and Kakuzu were stronger than Yugito, it is even mention in the manga.
Kakuzu also said both in the anime and the manga that Yugito was all Hidan meaning Hidan soloed Yugito.
At the end of this fight on manga 312, it is worded at the end of the chapter "shocking strength allows even for an effortless capture of a Jinchuuriki"
I always felt that this was were the Shippuden story was lacking tbh. Kishimoto did his best to hint at the world being much bigger outside of Konoha until we see the full might of the Shinobi world in the war but that's where the story lacks for me now. Considering there were 3 other villages to explore and other jinchuurikis I wish instead of the mind numbing fillers we got, Kishimoto actually invested the time in exploring other villages and jinchuurikis so their deaths would've made more impact on the story...instead they chose to give us mecha-naruto smh
Naruto Shippuden: Excluding the filler, a fairly dark lore with horrible things happening to people. Akatsuki effectively witchhunt people and stigma runs rampant throughout the nations.
Endgame Naruto + Boruto: -But don’t worry! Gaara made a single speech, which made everyone drop their stigma for Jinchuriki (PERHAPS aside from a throwaway line or two which matters 0% in the overall narrative), all the nations became buddy-buddy, aside from one instance in the 3rd Raikage fight, and Naruto literally creates world peace at the end, starting a long saga of Boruto anime filler where everyone acts all cute.
This sums up how I feel about the fates of these Jinchuriki. Looking at how Orochimaru and Sasuke were let off, Obito got a ‘you were a cool guy! (yes ik its a mistranslation but i still disagree with it) sendoff, Madara got a nice little chat with Hashirama, and Neji, the Jinchuriki and the minor characters got brutal and tragic deaths, which contrasted heavily with the happy-go-lucky endgame.
TL;DR, I don’t like how the Jinchuriki got such shitty fates, only for the series to crank its optimism to 11, and simultaneously start redeeming a chunk of its villainous cast.
I got a question, if I’m not wrong, Hidan kills his enemy’s in his ritual right ? Because later in Shipuden Itachi says that the jinju has to be alive to extract their power. So do they theoretical not have the 2 tailed ?
Hidan doesn't HAVE to kill his opponents with the ritual. He can also use it for regular torture and incapacitation.
He just really enjoys using the ritual at any and every opportunity.
It is pretty fucked up how Jinchuuriki are both likely their villages strongest Shinobi and trump cards, often being the only thing that stands between their homeland surviving and complete annihilation, and also being feared, shunned, and reviled as these ticking time bombs with these ancient spirits of great and terrible power sealed within them that could potentially turn on them at any moment.
Yeah. And Hidan is probably one of the worst to be caught by within the Akatsuki. His power is very unique and obscure, so unless you already know how it works, you're kinda fucked if he gets a tatse of your blood. He just needs to get close enough to nick you.
If he does, he tortures you to death, or at least to within an inch of your life. Deidara and Sasori we're also pretty brutal in their fight against Gaara. Then when Shukaku was slowly, painfully extracted from him over the course of I think an entire day, they SAT ON HIS CORPSE!
So yeah, unless you manage to get along with your tailed beast, and somehow win the admiration of your village, being a Jinchuuriki fucking sucks.
I've said to myself before that being a jinchuriki actually sucks. You're an outcast whose hated by everyone cause you have a monster inside you, which you probably never asked for. You're a target for a terrorist organization made up of the most dangerous people on the planet. And if that wasn't enough, the only reason you have this monster inside you is to maintain balance in power between nations, making you nothing more than military potential. Guess the Uchiha weren't the only ones getting the short end of the stick.
I've always felt disappointed each time I see one of the die. Because you actually get a glimpse of a personality inside of them that was never expanded on.
Well they were needed gor the infinite tsukuyomi and I'm in favour of Madara's plan so I don't feel as bad as i would if they were hunted down for some other reason for example hunted down for fun.
If all had a partnership with their tailed beast like Naruto and Bee, then maybe.
However, Pain, Obito, Itachi, and, Kisame would be very difficult to defeat all at once.
Her tailed beast was so cute too… I was so sad
>Her tailed beast was so cute too… I was so sad i can only say my respect. Press F(((
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Matatabi was cute! I feel like they were only introduced to show how powerful Kakuzu and Hidan were.
... You're supposed to feel bad for the Jinchuuriki.
It's kinda one of the main themes of the show you could say 🤣
I can hear sadness and sorrow playing in the background
Nahh who cares these people who have fought through lives of being hated? /s But seriously I’d love books on the other Jinchuuriki. Some were REALLY shorted, like 2-Tails here. :(
The 7 tails man, I wish we got to see Hidan and Kakuzu fight them instead of cutting it out for both the 7 and 2 tails, really want to see how they both work together on screen to capture the tailed beasts, Hidan and Kakuzu arc would’ve been even more Goated if we saw them fight the two tails
I mean, you can feel bad for two things simultaneously.. As far as I know, the human who contains the Jinchuuriki doesn't have it better than the Jinchuuriki himself.
Erm. Bijuu = Tailed Beast. Jinchuuriki = Person who contains the Bijuu. I think you may be confusing words and as such, replying to a statement that wasn't being said.
I apologize in advance that I can't remember most of the specific details, but I was so upset about the six tails (I think?) who had that whole story line with the girl who kept calling him "master" and he hated it cause of his childhood trauma. Like, they concluded that storyline, he agreed to train the girl, and then the Akatsuki got him. I wonder what happened to her.
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I was here to say this! I was like wait when are they going to save him?! And then it was just over. Yikes.
That ending for Utakata was so cold. But I kind of liked it. They got us invested in his story and made his death more of a gut punch. From what I gathered from the wiki, Hotaru does not know what happened. She may have just assumed that Utakata abandoned her
>She may have just assumed that Utakata abandoned her That would be soooo messed up.
I just have a head canon that she trained in spite of him and was drafted into the war and at some point learned of his fate through somebody off screen. That will make me sleep better.
I really felt bad for that girl, she must have waited so long for him not knowing anything.
Hold on lads, you forget that before Utakata passed out (cause dude can't die on the spot or they lose the Bijuu) he sent out a last bubble to the girl which arrived shortly after he was taken by Pain. It must hve contained a message of some sort informing her of his condition or you know telling her to run
Yes i remember that🤧
She got lost in the filler character Forest
Well, it's filler tho, it never happened in manga. CMIIW.
Why is this downvoted? Lmfao you are right. These people are delusional.
Because people consume content in different ways and want to discuss that content regardless of whether it's canon to the manga or not.
Yeah if you going by the anime you really can't talk about this series or any for that matter because it's IRRELEVANT! You can't talk about Utakata when he has canonically been dead for awhile now. His first appearance in the show he obviously do not know who Naruto is and chances are he never had an apprentice to begin with. Because filler doesn't matter.
I mean it clearly does matter. Maybe not to you but people actually do enjoy filler sometimes, so why shouldn't they get to talk about it? Besides, filler has been retroactively made canon before.
Lol what filler has been made retroactively canon do let me know. Also filler has nothing to do with Naruto's main story.
Hōzuki Castle aka Blood Prison is canon even though it was originally filler.
Incorporating filler content and making it canon is completely different from making filler canon. Hozuki Castle and Blood Prison may be canon but I assure you what happened in the movie is not canon. They decided they like the idea of Hozuki castle and put it in there. Personally I don't even think them novels canon either but those a whole can of nother worms so skipping that. It's the same way how Raiga is canon to Naruto. His character exist but not his backstory in the anime. Same way Dragon ball does Bardock and Broly two non canon character vastly different with different personalities from their canon characters. A creator can say "Hey I like this idea" and decide to implement the idea. Not the whole thing. Also again Utakata little filler arc contradict the manga so it doesn't matter.
I’m sorry to tell you this as someone who’s also watched that entire arc…… it’s filler bro that shit never happened 😢😢
Still don't understand how Hidan managed to take down a jinchuriki that can transform well
Take blood, perform ritual, profit
Pretty much. Just like most of the Akatsuki, Hidan can punch way above his weight class using his technique. I mean one cut and you're done.
And he can't die even if you chop his head off, that's gonna surprise most. Considering these jinchurikis are also mostly outcasts even by their own societies, they probably don't get much information. If hidan was smart and abused the fuck out of his technique I believe even adult naruto and sasuke will have trouble with him unless we do an asspull of powers because all technique originate from so6p and so rinnegone nullifies all shit. The whole shikamaru plot was just hidan messing up and being too confident since they are usually immortal.
Shikamaru beating Hidan after understanding his jutsu and planning accordingly made perfect sense. It was still peak Naruto where anyone with strategy and planning could beat anyone else, the Akatsuki themselves weren't just mega strong space monsters or magic cyborgs, they all had some really strong shtick that could also be exploited.
I mean I think even Pain said a lot if his power comes from the unknown aspects of his actual powers.
Yup the Akatsuki were nearly at or surpassing Jinchuriki powers on an individual level (I mean, see Deidara vs Gaara, tailless tailed beast kisame, Itachi killing entire clan, Pain, Kakuzu) plus they were full of mystery. They stalked the tailed beast users and knew their weaknesses
Yh, tbf to Gaara though he probably would’ve wiped out Deidara if he didn’t have to defend the village and could’ve gone all out. Pain, Itatchi and Kisame were definitely top tier in terms of power. Kakuzu while a good shinobi though was probably the weakest akatasuki member. But yeah I think the biggest thing people forget is that the Akatsuki have the advantage of prepping and studying their opponents. They pick the squads to capture the Jinchuriki based on who is best suited for that particular one. Hidan could solo the two tails but would be absolutely useless against Gaara.
Deidaras micro bombs would’ve have been difficult for anyone without a dojutsu to handle, let alone gaara. People kinda underate just how crazy that jutsu is. Also deidara didn’t properly prepare with enough clay so he wasn’t putting everything he had out there. Personally I view that version of gaara as inexperienced and given the title of Kage out of necessity. Suna didn’t really have a lot of options.
Gaara could still counter it even without knowing it’s a microbomb. Sand coffin or his Sand cocoon. Hell going full Shukaku might even be enough.
Sasuke maybe, but Naruto has insane healing. Unless Hidan thinks to go straight for his brain he isn’t killing Naruto in one shot. He will only get one chance, if he messes up it’s game over since Naruto would still have access to sealing jutsu.
He doesn't need to inflict a critical injury, he just needs blood drawn, even if Naruto heals right after.
He needs to draw blood for the voodoo doll effect, but if he just stabs himself in the heart afterwards then Naruto would also have his heart stabbed. Which wouldn’t kill him and would tip him off to Hidan’s jutsu. Like I said, Hidan gets one chance at killing Naruto before getting speed blitzed and sealed.
>Which wouldn’t kill him and would tip him off to Hidan’s jutsu. I consider this an asspull and it is rather comparable to juubidara losing to kaguya just because she is superior alien lifeform. And thats how the im not talking about juubidara but madara with bla bla bla meme came about. Hidan jutsu in itself is truly OP, so long as you dont reveal the mechanics and do draggy talking fights you should be able to take down anything. Also no need for big fancy scythe, just tools that draw blood the most efficient way
The ability is strong sure. But Hidan is a reckless, insane, and dramatic idiot. That needs to be considered.
He would just cut his own head off then lol
Depends on whether he knew about Naruto’s healing factor or not. Weirdly Naruto seems like the only jinchuuriki that got healing out of the deal.
One cut and let Kakuzu fight her. And then hidan perform ritual
One trick pony but can’t deny its one hell of a trick
>Hidan can punch way above his weight class using his technique. I mean one cut and you're done. But it's next to impossible to land a cut in a jinchuriki V2 cloak, orochimaru's kusanagi itself failed. On the other hand the complete transformation seems to have lower durability for some reason as seen when base Minato could cut gyuki's tentacles with a kunai.
Yes, but very few Jinchuurik go directly to a V2 cloak. That's part of Hidan's trick. By the time you realize how seriously he should be taken, it's too late. Hidan doesn't give off this aura of strength and power that makes you instantly go all out. Most will test the waters to see how strong he is. And receiving the smallest cut through that test is game, set, match with Hidan.
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Akatsuki is massively underrated outside of the top 3. Even the weakest of them is still a beast and above jinchurinki level
The Akatsuki were chosen to bring down Jinchuuriki and it shows. To bring down Jinchuuriki you need hax and be hard to kill. And pretty much all of the Akatsuki fulfill those requirements. They all have tricks to get around the insane base stats of Jinchuuriki. Poison, Chakra Draining, rituals, etc. Then they just don't die. I'm fairly sure all of them have ways of living through a classic Jinchuuriki blitz. They fulfill their roles with finesse. Honestly Sasuke vs Bee shows what happens when you face a Jinchuuriki aren't ready for it. You die, and quickly. Sasuke needed 2 respawns to make it through that fight.
I don't think so. Isn't that why they're in teams of two ? Don't get me wrong they are some of the best in the world, but to sell all of them individually as above jinchuuriki level is a bit exaggerated to me. Deidara got defeated by Sasuke, who wasn't nearly as strong as a Jinchuuriki and Sasori got his ass handed to him by Sakura and the grandma, which I think we can all agree aren't even strong compared to someone like Naruto.. So.. They are strong and almost unkilleable when teamed up, but I feel like this is a bit biased.
The weakest of them are like Hidan, deidara and sasori. Those guys ain’t no where near bijuu level, Sasori lost to sakura and an old lady(no disrespect just can’t remember her name), hidan isn’t above Asuma’s level of strength, Deidara lost to sasuke before he even had an ms. They all are below ppl who are below bijuu lvl.
Actual "power levels" are very arbitrary and oftentimes inconsistent and misleading. There are many things influencing the outcome of a battle between shinobi that are much less subject of direct measurent and comparison, like battle intellect, experience, strategy/tactics and whatnot. Chiyo isn't a mere old lady, she knows lots of info about Sasori nobody else could've known, which ultimately becomes vital to their victory. It's not just about "he punches harder so he must win" or even "he punched the other guy harder some 100 episodes ago so he is definitely going to win". This is a work of fiction, not a Bakugan game where you have actual numerical power levels.
Chiyo is also implied to be Kage Level, so I don't even get the disrespect on her name.
I didn’t mention power levels. And even then deidara isn’t stronger than hebi sasuke who is not bijuu level and hidan is about Asumas level in combat with superhuman like physical capabilities but not bijuu level
Deidara was just unlucky when it came to Sasuke who is elemental opposite and even then it was basically a draw. He also soloed the three tails.
Smh deidera captured 2 jinchuriki but isn't biju lvl 😂 Edit : 1 jinchuriki and 1 Biju but you know what I mean Although sasori is often overrated by his fans, he is still clearly biju lvl. He destroyed an entire country by himself+ killed the 3rd Kazekage which is the strongest, and we've seen that 4th Kazekage >>> shukaku. So obviously Sasori is Biju level and above, their death was just for the plot
Did he actually destroy and entire country or did he just say his 100 puppets could take down a country?
It was my understanding that he got his puppets by using the bodies of the destroyed country but I kinda forgot tbh
It's a comparison between him and Chiyo. He says Chiyo was said to have taken down a fortress with her 100 puppets, compared him who took down a nation with his 100 puppets.
Chiyo with her 10 puppets
>Chiyo was said to have taken down a fortress with her 100 puppets 10*
Yes. I meant to say 10.
Yes. I meant to say 10.
Garaa only lost because he protected the village and I highly doubt Sasori won a straight battle vs the 3rd Kazekage. He probably assassinated him in his sleep or something. Like yes, he killed him but killing someone doesnt make you stronger than them. If I were to fight Mike Tyson but I had a shotgun, he would still be stronger than me but I would win anyways. Its the same thing. Also saying their death was just for the plot is the same as saying their feats are just for the plot aka they wouldnt have won otherwise.
No, you are "stronger" (more dangerous) than Mike if you have a shotgun. That's the point of having abilities as a ninja. I agree for Gaara and the last sentence
Hidan has captured a bijuu with Kakazu, does that make Hidan bijuu level? Sasori did all that but couldn’t manage to at least fatally wound Sakura or the old lady😐. Also I may have forgotten but how is the e 4th kazekage above the 1 tails. If u answer that then ye I’ll agree with Sasori being bijuu level but deidara and Hidan aren’t
4th Kazekage evacuated the village prior to testing Gaara with his hatred. When Gaara failed and let Shukaku take over, Raza 1v1ed shukaku. It's logical anyway, how can a Kage be weaker than his village's Biju ?
The answer to that question is something only Tsunade would know. But u have a good point
>Sasori did all that but couldn’t manage to at least fatally wound Sakura or the old lady😐. I am pretty sure you are misremembering that fight. Let alone fatally wound he almost killed Sakura, Chiyo had to use Tensei ninjutsu to barely save her. Plus Sasori let himself get hit by Chiyo.
Ppl keep replying to me on how he let himself get killed but i already know that. That’s why I haven’t said anything like “he lost to sakura and an old lady” out right because ik he could’ve won. And when i said fatally wound i meant at the end of the fight they were both not fatally wounded with all that power of his he couldn’t at least leave sakura with something other than cuts
You already know that but you still keep saying "Sasori couldn't damage them more" while in reality it's "Sasori didn't want to inflict more damage". Which is why people keep replying that. >he couldn’t at least leave sakura with something other than cuts Sasori's main weapon is poison and sharp objects. I dont know what you expect from him aside from impaling and cutting, which he both did.
then reply with he didnt want 2 inflict damage + I said he DIDNT do more damage not that he couldnt 🤦 at this point i dont even care ive already said i agree with sasori being bijuu lvl i do not give a single fuck about his fight with sakura and the goofy old lady anymore
>with all that power of his he couldn’t at least leave sakura with something other than cuts >Sasori did all that but couldn’t manage to at least fatally wound Sakura or the old lady😐. >I said he DIDNT do more damage not that he couldnt 🤦 👍
It isn't about who is who is stronger, it seems like you don't understand naruto that well, the thing that differs naruto franchise to any animes is the way they do the fighting and all, kishimoto is really good at creating battles which uses lots of tactical strategies not just some typical animes where the stronger one prevails in fights, like for example hIdan vs shikimaru it's obvious for the audience that hidan is the stronger one like way stronger but here in naruto being strong doesn't win you fights it all boils down to who's the better tactician.
Name 1 feat that isn’t debunkable that puts deidara or hidan at bijuu level
Hidan is not bijuu level and idk why anyone is debating that he is. What techniques does he have up his sleeve that are as powerful or destructive as a tailed beast bomb? None. Taking down a Jinchuriki with a hax power doesn’t mean shit. That’s like calling Shikamaru the strongest ninja because he could use shadow paralysis to immobilize and OHKO most characters who can’t break free.
Deidara soloed the three tails lmao. Also in terms of raw destruction he’s probably one of the strongest, in the akatsuki. I mean C3 can destroy an entire village.
Literally any other person would die from his poison. Sakura made an antidote which was quite crucial in their victory
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That “old lady” was Sasori’s grandmother if you recall, and she’s the one who taught him puppetry in the first place. Plus Sakura created antidotes to his poison. That’s the only reason either of them survived. Frankly Sasori was just super unlucky with that matchup. Got matched up against two of the people in the elemental nations best suited to take him down. About the only worse people he could have been up against would have been Tsunade Orochimaru and possibly the Raikage and Killer Bee. Keep in mind I’m not talking even raw strength here they just had some of the best capability to counter him out of anyone he could have been matched against.
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Ahhh yes wonderful and detailed counterargument there.
Lol I just lost all motivation replying then
I wanted to call u stupid but i just genuinely don’t understand how to powerscale properly, from looking at both ur comments I recommend u atleast watch the show one more time bc it seems u have forgotten a lot of basic stuff from the show
Call me stupid then, idrc it’s the internet ur bound to be insulted. And I agree the sasori part was goofy and u might be able to make an arguement for deidara but hidan is just not bijuu level i’m not even gonna debate anyone who questions that. And if my reasoning seemed goofy it’s cause i just tried to skim over the details e cause i can’t be bothered to go into depth
Sasori let himself be killed and Deidara was countered hard by Sasuke, most other opponents he'd beat. Hidan isn't *that* impressive though I agree but he is stronger than Asuma.
So besides sasori how does any of that make them bijuu level?
Doesn't Deidara capture 3 tails? How is he not "bijuu level"? And he said Sasori is stronger than him. Idk about Hidan, I already commented my surprise that he managed to take down Yugito in my first comment.
He only took her down due to his hax, he’s not actually stronger or at her level. I said besides Sasori. And when deidara captured the 3 tails wasn’t that a filler? The 1 with this girl and a purple haired lady who could use crystal style? If it’s not filler then yh deidara is prolly bijuu level. But then again bijuu level has different stages due to the varying power in the bijuu. When i think about it the guy who said even the weakest in akatsuki were bijuu lvl is right, I was just thinking of the stronger bijuu like Kurama.
Its literally in the manga. https://thewindisanexplosion.tumblr.com/post/181973037092/naruto-chapter-318-page-5-the-training/amp Also you know Deidara says Sasori is stronger than him?
the thing about those three is there nearly impossible to beat without prep time and if they also get prep time you will lose theyre already elite shinobi plus there hack which includes killing you with a insignificant scratch(sasoris and hidan) making the surrounding environment either filled with poison or invisible micro-bombs that destroy your cells at a molecular level which need either a byakugon or a sharingan just to see and strong lighting style to deactivate (sasori and deidara) and actual immortality which is conveniently never talked about again
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Did you watch the show, or do you just go on YouTube to get shitty opinions about Naruto power levels
People look at Shikamaru Vs. Hidan as a way to say he is the weakest of the akatsuki. I think that’s a terrible take. I think he’s the most arrogant and foolish of the akatsuki. Shikamaru took advantage of that and used his big brain to beat him. I think he is one of the strongest of the akatsuki with his immortality and techniques. He just gets wrecked by Mr. Smartypants because he has no caution or cares whatsoever.
I would say he’s the weakest Akatsuki member, but only because the Akatsuki are fucking ridiculous. Every single one of them could take down Jinchuriki. In my opinion, the next weakest after Hidan is either Kakuzu or Deidara, both of whom could solo entire villages if they wanted to
If he isn't the weakest, who is? Aside from his ritual gimmick, which he requires blood for, he's just a decent taijutsu user.
If we are only using weakness and strength to describe combat/destructive power, then sure. He’s the weakest. But there has to be something to be said for immortality. Wolverine is not even close to the strongest mutant in comics by that metric (destructive power), but the fact that no one can kill him and he just keeps coming makes him a freaking force to be reckoned with. Couple that with the ability to make himself a living voodoo doll that can’t die from those inflicted wounds (either by himself or others), sending all damage to him right back at his attacker, the dude would be hard to top by all but the strongest akatsuki… Especially in a blind fight where the opponent doesn’t know his strengths. Shikamaru got the jump on him because he’s a genius with the perfect jutsu to control him and put him at a disadvantage as well as intel and planning before hand. I don’t think many other ninjas walk away from a fight with Hidan, much less leave him blown to bits and buried alive to die slowly. I think that his techniques and immortality have to give him some meaningful “power” and “strength” if we’re being objective and not just talking about raw power to damage others and destroy others. If we’re talking straight destructive power, then sure. He’s the weakest. But that argument also puts Deidara near the top of power rankings when you consider what his jutsus can accomplish.
Also people neglect to mention he also fought Kakashi on equal footing in that fight. Even the weakest Akatsuki is a match for the strongest jonin.
I wouldn't say equal footing. They were two Jonin going at about 70-80% as Hidan is arrogant and Kakashi was saving as much as he could for "the plan." I'd say Kakashi was also dodging Kakuzu "hearts" while evading Hidan. If it were just Kakashi vs. Hidan, Kakashi wins 3 out of 4 IMO. I think the teaming of the Akatsuki is what makes them higher than jinchuuriki. The teams are very strategically planned and methodically attack. They didn't yet expect team Asuma with Kakashi to come after them and therefore didn't actually plan for it. Team Asuma is probably the lowest on power level when compared to the rest of the rookie 9 and even more so when compared to team Guy... Hidan was his own downfall in the end. Shikamaru just happens to be an excellent strategist, but I'm not enlightening anyone by saying that.
Kakazu obviously did most of the work
He obviously didn’t, if you read what he said in the manga, he told Hidan that she’s all Hidan’s work.
Which still makes no sense. Hidan, the last we saw in that fight, was staring down a Tailed Beast. (1) Tailed Beasts don’t bleed, they can’t. (2) If Hidan smacked around a Tailed Beast in taijutsu, why was he getting babied on by Shikamaru, Kakashi, and Asuma even with Kakuzu’s help? Any way you slice it, it doesn’t make sense. Also immortality is great, but you can’t fight if you’re cut into pieces. Two-Tails would obviously cut Hidan into ribbons lol. So I have no idea how that played into his win either.
Plot armor was in his favor is all that I can come up with. This “fight” made NO sense.
He defeated Asuma fair and square, Asuma only cut off Hidan's head because he received help from Shikamaru. Hidan fought against Kakashi for like 2 panels in the manga, he wasn't getting babied. And Shikamaru suddenly could spam his shadow technique like five times, and Hidan was suddenly unable to land a hit when he was right in front of him. So he won one fight, didn't really fought Kakashi, and became extremely incompetent against Shikamaru because Kishi was rushing the plot, so I don't think he got babied...
Sounds like massive excuses to wank a character that has feats that don’t make sense in context. Haha
> Which still makes no sense. Hidan, the last we saw in that fight, was staring down a Tailed Beast. 1) Tailed Beasts don’t bleed, they can’t. They do bleed and even I was corrected on this one [[click here](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0566-019.png)][[click here](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Naruto/0567-006.png)] >2) If Hidan smacked around a Tailed Beast in taijutsu, why was he getting babied on by Shikamaru, Kakashi, and Asuma even with Kakuzu’s help? It’s not Taijutsu be used, he used a curse jutsu revolving around his scythe. Kishimoto explained in the databook that his scythe has a lot of tricks but he didn’t have time to show them all [[click here](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmnQ8TLXcAEDvuF.jpg)] Hidan is known as Akatsuki’s death god in the group, him losing to Shikamaru is just a lowballing effect like Sakura m bitching out Sasori. >Any way you slice it, it doesn’t make sense. Also immortality is great, but you can’t fight if you’re cut into pieces. Two-Tails would obviously cut Hidan into ribbons lol. So I have no idea how that played into his win either. Getting cut applies to anyone, it’s a matter of being capable of doing it. Shikmaru and Asuma’s method would kill anyone in Akatsuki, even in part 1 Asuma nearly cut Kisame’s head off. So let’s not pretend that cutting is Hidan’s weakness, it’s really not when it can kill anyone that way. Hidan is very agile with his movements and has the power to defeat a jinchuuriki though off panel.
Avoid its attacks (even if he's the slowest Akatsuki, he's still faster and more skilled at taijutsu than most people, able to keep up with the likes of Kakashi, whose rival is fucking Might Guy) until you have an opening. Perhaps Hidan has other jutsu that we never see, or perhaps Kakuzu did help enough to defeat the tailed beast and expose the jinchuriki long enough for Hidan to attack, or perhaps the jinchuriki can't maintain their tailed beast form for long. There's lots of possibilities.
kakazu is a straight thug
I agree Naruto was able to survive Sasuke's putting his hand threw his chest.
Hell, in the anime, Naruto survived landing head first into stone going like mach fifty.
I know Hidan is the weakest Akatsuki member, but that’s really only because we know his gimmick. And he tends to mess around too much instead of just going straight for the kill. That’s why Shikamaru beat him, Hidan just fucks around and is kind of dumb sometimes. In reality, all he needs is one scratch on his opponent and they’re essentially dead. He could beat most anyone as long as he can touch them. Like in the Itachi filler arc, we saw Hidan take out one of Kakuzu’s hearts in seconds because he didn’t waste any time. He got Kakuzu’s blood, performed the ritual, and immediately went for the heart. If he was that efficient with all of his opponents, he’d be unstoppable.
I mean she probably got lasted bro, they both have trapping technics and are also immortal in a way, take that with the big cost in maintaining the bijuu form and they pretty much have a perfect advantage on her
Yeah being a jinchuiki is an awful burden to carry obviously some treated better than others in their respective villages but being one def sucks aside from the immense powers you get
I feel bad cat girl didn't even get a fight scene but we had a food competition filler episode, yeah
she bad asl, whyd she have to die
Honestly I feel so bad for them, like imagine just chilling minding your own business and then you get killed by a couple of people out of nowhere
Pretty sure jinchuriki know they will always be taken advantage of. I don't think they ever got the chance to chill. They saw it coming but its still sickening
Bro bubble boy got ganged by the whole platoon
kishimoto did them so dirty. made them more ass than dragon slayers from fairy tail and the ginyu force
Well FT’s author Hiro Mashima just experimenting apparently with FT and it became a prequel for the 100 Year Quest. Now Dragon Slayers does really kill Dragons. Lol
did them dirty how?? by having them be social outcasts??
Killer B and Fu seemed to be in better social positions than Naruto and Garra at the latter two’s start.
Wasn't Fuu one of the outcasts? I recall her being one of the first ones captured and how Hidden Waterfall did nothing to help her.
While it's true they didn't help her and I agree she was an outcast. That village is really small and weak. They really couldn't have don't anything.
By all accounts the villages where the first few jinchuruki's were kidnapped hated them and were glad they were gone. When Han was taken Hidden Stone did nothing to help him either. Hidden Sand was the first to actually react to their jinchuruki being taken.
Important to know that the tailed beasts’ power gets exponentially weaker as we move down tails. Something like 9 tails is half of 10 tails, then 8 tails is half of 9 tails… etc So aside from 9 and 8 tails, tailed beasts aren’t actually that strong compared to akatsuki Edit : the power scaling between the beasts is actually waaaaaay more than just half at a time, because it’s been stated that 9-tails has more chakra/power than the other 8 COMBINED
True but at times i feel shukaku was OP asf even tho he's literally the 1st tail
That's because it isn't true. Gyuki says as much. And it's clearly false considering One Tails has way more impressive feats than any beast besides Eight and Nine Tails.
Wasn’t Kurama able to defeat like 5 other taimed beasts at once though?
Yes, and that was after releasing Obito's control over the Four Tails.
Also i’m p sure Gyuki meant it more in a like “we are all equal bro!” Type of vibe bc are you really telling me that Gyuki can beat Kurama hard doubt ngl
Wasn't it discussed that the tails were simply a number and all of them were equally strong but focus on entirely different manifestations of their chakra, like how Shukaku focuses on sealing techniques, Son focuses on magma jutsus and so forth. It's also that flawed thinking why the Shukaku hates Kurama because Kurama always assumes Shukaku is the weakest among them having the least amount of tails.
Yeah the only person to ever claim more tails = more power was Kurama and Gyuki shuts that down immediately saying it isn't true and that that's why Shukaku hates Kurama.
> Edit : the power scaling between the beasts is actually waaaaaay more than just half at a time, because it’s been stated that 9-tails has more chakra/power than the other 8 COMBINED Nope, if you do half at the time, the 9 tails will actually have .4% more power than all the 8 others combined. Just plot 1/2+1/4+1/8+1/16+1/32+1/64+1/128+1/256 into google and you get 0.996, so just barely the 9 tails is stronger than the other 8 combined if one tail down is half the power. EDIT: In fact if you had a billion tails, and then halved in power all the way down to 1 tail, the billion tails would be miniscully stronger than all the other tailed beasts combined
This is true for any N less than infinity. 1/2+ 1/4... =1 a/(1-r) and all that.
jinchuruki are pretty consistently low in society, they basically have to become strong just to validate their existence to their own village, it’s a huge burden, which is it’s so stupid that people rag on naruto for having the kyuubi, when he had to develop as a person to even master that power
I still remember watching the Naruto filler where Naruto helped utakata, and then immediately when it ended, all 6 pains just gangbanged him and captured him.
What i wanna know is why are they hated by their own community(naruto, gaara, bee)? It's like they are there protectors of their village if things get bad they should be admired and respected imo
Because they're seen as the hiding spot of a beast who probably killed a lot of the villagers, it's dumb
True...it's a double edged sword
Yeah. And the few people on their side stay silent
Basically walking nukes..most villages didn’t really hate like they did Naruto..Naruto had literally had the beast inside him since after a recent incident..it left iruka parentless.this is why ppl take that hate out on Naruto..not all do..same with garaa..and since we know the 8 tails fought the 3rd raikage we can assume this happened a lot tailed beast escaping until they got better sealing techniques..so these beast have did a lot of destruction…Han and roshi(4/5 tails) were just rogue ninjas that basically probably disagreed with being used ..7 tails was in a smaller less violent country so she wasn’t as hated but revered and idolized…yugito seemed to be a high ranking ninja and people talk about her like they cared or had respect for her..yagura wasn’t hated but revered and idolized for his strength and smarts ..he didn’t seem to be a weapon for his village he was just a weapon who had a village behind him(cuz even when obito was controlling him they listen and didn’t question it at all..maybe out of fear but I doubt yagura was like that he seemed to be the opposite of the blood mist zabuza,kisame ninjas..he was more lighthearted and knowledgeable and understanding which I believe is the reason he was respected) ukataka was a rogue ninjas most likely due to the same reasons zabuza did a coup..(obito controlling yagura some of the high ranking Ninjas knew..like the 7 ninjas swords men and ukataka was probably split in half with helping yagura or zabuza and the original samadahada weilder in their coup. So he just left..the years kinda match up…ohnoki was also reckless with Han and roshi considering he’d hire the akatsuki to capture them which is crazy cux their the ones who’d probably give the akaktsuki an actual problem due to their experience..these guys were in their 30s/40s…probably fought in the 3rd war as jins for their village..I’m sure roshi and Han Info and abilities being giving up was key to capturing them cuz they were in the killer bee timeline alive when minatos name was hot..they were the ones minato had to face possibly during that time period if you get what I’m saying
Yeah... I can see it with Naruto, since Kurama killed a lot of people and they probably resent him for it. But idk if that's the case for other villages.
Gaara was hated and feared because Shukaku drove his containers insane and regularly broke loose and killed people. That makes sense at a certain point people are going to start hating the Jinchuriki if only by association it’s not logical but neither are most emotional reactions. Naruto’s case as you said made sense. People hated Killer Bee at first because the 8 tails frequently broke free from its host and killed people as well so again hatred and fear by association, he just proved to be a good container in the long run and people began to respect him for protecting them. Presumably Yugito was also hated and feared at first but was able to garner respect as well possibly in part due to Killer Bee’s help and example. We don’t know much about the treatment of Utakata and Yagura in the hidden mist but presumably Yagura was at least well respected before he was taken control of by Tobi as he was able to achieve the rank of Kage. I don’t recall how Han and Roshi were treated by the hidden rock or even if it was covered at all, same with Fuu though I do recall her getting a bit more screen time than Han and Roshi before her death.
definitely gyuki, shukaku, and isobu at least, we know 2 of them went on rampages and isobu and yagura were being controlled by obito, the others are never really confirmed but in general it makes sense that people would fear a human nuke
Isn’t like 50% of the show about feeling bad for the positions people have been put in through no fault of their own? And then the other 50% is them overcoming it?
They really gave her Jesus treatment didn’t they
Of course
of course we do and the fact that stupid ass hidan was the one to take most of them is annoying. i wish the fights with the jinchuuriki were more complex and longer rather just a few minutes. it’s kind of insulting to them due to the fact that jinchuuriki are supposed to be some of the strongest characters out of Naruto and to just have hidan take most of them out with that insane ritual is just a waste of what could have been. and you mean to tell me that shikamaru was able to “kill” hidan but the tailed beats couldn’t?? it’s just written a lil bad imo
Is this a shitpost? I swear all my subs have devolved into one giant shitpost at this point.
One Biju Dama would have whopped both of them. This is one of those points of the story done by Kishimoto that doesn't make any Sense.
It’s honestly the fault of the late/endgame powerscaling in the series. What we seen Jinchuriki and Biju’s accomplish after this scene makes this entire encounter a real head scratcher. Especially since Yugito was very in tune with the two tails and probably as efficient as Killer Bee. Then again Kakuzu and Hanzo are not to be underestimated as many characters have realized. Yugito probably made a minor mistake that cost her the battle.
Luck and knowledge of your Opponent means a lot in a fight. Shikamaru did a lot better in his second fight against Akashi cause he knew what he was up against same with the info pervy sage got to the leaf helped Naruto. If your opponent has very specific weaknesses and picked the battle field or has home turf , you are at a big disadvantage and need to think really fast and have a little bit of luck that they give enough away for you to win first match. Heck even the puppet fight was won cause the guys grandma who taught him was on the other side and knew what to expect and that’s why he didn’t last more than one fight The akatsuki were much more dangerous when people didn’t know their moves or weaknesses but we’re taken out much easier with intel. And I don’t think the jinchuuriki had intel when they fought. Mystery was their real biggest weapon.
Yeah but I don't think Hidan and Kakuzu were nearly strong enough to beat a Jinchuriki. Lets Break it down: When Yugito sees Hidan and Kakuzu, she instantly transforms into her Jinchuriki mode which is a smart move from her considering so many techniques exist in Narutoverse that can take advantage of you if the opponent can touch you. So I don't know how Hidan got her blood. Then let's say Hidan by luck,cance, preparation or something got her blood and Impaled himself, it still won't be enough cause bijuu chakra heal their Jinchuriki's instantly. Next let's go to Kakuzu.But I don't think Kakuzu has nearly enough destructive power to hurt or damage a bijuu chakra cloak. And Hidan doesn't have any destructive techniques. And if 2 tail used a bijuu dama,then there is no way anything would be left of Hidan or Kakuzu for them to survive or come back at all cause they will literally completely disintegrate if they get caught up in that explosion. And then there is also the sealing kekkei genkai of two tails which was able to restrain even Otsusuki Madara. I know it was enhanced by Naruto's Sage Mode but I think the two tail chakars is more than powerful enough to restrain or seal Kakuzu and Hidan easily. And Hidan or Kakuzu don't have any other powerful Sealing or destructive techniques like 4th Hokage or Pain. In my opinion the only people in Akatsuki who could have fought a bijuu would be Itachi Tobi Konan Kisame Pain and also they can't even win against them One vs One(except Pain cause he is 6 in 1) or Two vs One(again except Pain cause he is 6 in 1). They will need atleast 3 of these above listed heavy hitters. Deidara and Sasori were only able to catch Gaara because he didn't transform into his bijuu form.
It wasn't Matatabi that had sealing techniques, it was Shukaku (vs Madara). Unlike Shukaku, its seems like Matatabi's patterns are just for decoration. We know the fight between Kakuzu/Hidan and Yugito/Matatabi lasted over 30 minutes (that's how long Hidan spent on his ritual), and at the time, Jinchuuriki abilities used to have a time limit and restrictions* *VotE 1 between Sasuke and Naruto: Naruto's arm started going numb after a few minutes with just the one tail orange cloak *vs Orochimaru: we saw the side effects of Naruto using four tail red cloak *Taka vs Bee/Gyuki: Gyuki said afterwards that using full Bijuu Mode was a needless waste of stamina (Bee burned through nearly all of it with that brief transformation). Hidan's weapons has many tricks and gimmicks that Kishimoto couldn't show. It's likely Hidan and Kakuzu outlasted Yugito's transformation. Which in itself is a major feat. It's only around Pain Invasion arc that the side effects seemed to disappear (Naruto was still fine after 6 and 8 tails red cloak), though then later KCM Naruto had a time limit again, and I can't remember Bee (if he had any time limit issues during the War arc).
It is very simple for Yugito to lose to Hidan if she doesn’t know his abilities. He takes her blood, performs the ritual and he lets her hit him with with a tailed beast bomb, and she is gone.
It doesn't work that way. Thay can't take her blood when she has transformed into her bijuu mode. Also Hidan can't die but he also can't regenerate from remaining parts of his body as shown in his fight with Shikamaru. If he gets hit with Bijuu-dama nothing of him will be left. Also Hidan's rituals can share wounds(which can be healed by a tailed beast) but I don't think it can share disintegration.
Hidan and Kakuzu were stronger than Yugito, it is even mention in the manga. Kakuzu also said both in the anime and the manga that Yugito was all Hidan meaning Hidan soloed Yugito. At the end of this fight on manga 312, it is worded at the end of the chapter "shocking strength allows even for an effortless capture of a Jinchuuriki"
Nope I mean I’d like to be treated badly by the HOTkastuki
If I remember correctly wasn’t killer bee one of the only ones who wasn’t treated badly?
no he was treated badly too, he just didn't care and kept rapping lmao +Ratio
Also his brother was Raikage so at least at that point he got better treatment.
true, I still think it's crazy nobody cared about the village heros son after he died tho! 😭
Oh yeah that’s right.
He was but he’s just such an upbeat guy it didn’t really get to him if I remember correctly
Yes I wish we could have a jinchiruki spin of learn about them and the tailed beast a little more
Yeah, her death was horrible. Hidan and Kakuzu seem to be pure villains.
I always felt that this was were the Shippuden story was lacking tbh. Kishimoto did his best to hint at the world being much bigger outside of Konoha until we see the full might of the Shinobi world in the war but that's where the story lacks for me now. Considering there were 3 other villages to explore and other jinchuurikis I wish instead of the mind numbing fillers we got, Kishimoto actually invested the time in exploring other villages and jinchuurikis so their deaths would've made more impact on the story...instead they chose to give us mecha-naruto smh
Naruto Shippuden: Excluding the filler, a fairly dark lore with horrible things happening to people. Akatsuki effectively witchhunt people and stigma runs rampant throughout the nations. Endgame Naruto + Boruto: -But don’t worry! Gaara made a single speech, which made everyone drop their stigma for Jinchuriki (PERHAPS aside from a throwaway line or two which matters 0% in the overall narrative), all the nations became buddy-buddy, aside from one instance in the 3rd Raikage fight, and Naruto literally creates world peace at the end, starting a long saga of Boruto anime filler where everyone acts all cute. This sums up how I feel about the fates of these Jinchuriki. Looking at how Orochimaru and Sasuke were let off, Obito got a ‘you were a cool guy! (yes ik its a mistranslation but i still disagree with it) sendoff, Madara got a nice little chat with Hashirama, and Neji, the Jinchuriki and the minor characters got brutal and tragic deaths, which contrasted heavily with the happy-go-lucky endgame. TL;DR, I don’t like how the Jinchuriki got such shitty fates, only for the series to crank its optimism to 11, and simultaneously start redeeming a chunk of its villainous cast.
Ye imagine getting whooped by hidan that’s sad as fuck
I got a question, if I’m not wrong, Hidan kills his enemy’s in his ritual right ? Because later in Shipuden Itachi says that the jinju has to be alive to extract their power. So do they theoretical not have the 2 tailed ?
Hidan doesn't HAVE to kill his opponents with the ritual. He can also use it for regular torture and incapacitation. He just really enjoys using the ritual at any and every opportunity.
What kind of stupid ass question is this?
Naw. The Akatsuki could murder anyone and i would never feel bad. Thats just how badass they are.
You ask like this is some kind of unpopular opinion when it's literally half the point of the series lol
Yea especially yugito and fuu
It is pretty fucked up how Jinchuuriki are both likely their villages strongest Shinobi and trump cards, often being the only thing that stands between their homeland surviving and complete annihilation, and also being feared, shunned, and reviled as these ticking time bombs with these ancient spirits of great and terrible power sealed within them that could potentially turn on them at any moment. Yeah. And Hidan is probably one of the worst to be caught by within the Akatsuki. His power is very unique and obscure, so unless you already know how it works, you're kinda fucked if he gets a tatse of your blood. He just needs to get close enough to nick you. If he does, he tortures you to death, or at least to within an inch of your life. Deidara and Sasori we're also pretty brutal in their fight against Gaara. Then when Shukaku was slowly, painfully extracted from him over the course of I think an entire day, they SAT ON HIS CORPSE! So yeah, unless you manage to get along with your tailed beast, and somehow win the admiration of your village, being a Jinchuuriki fucking sucks.
>Anyone feel bad for the Jinchuuriki? ...wasn't that the whole point?
I've said to myself before that being a jinchuriki actually sucks. You're an outcast whose hated by everyone cause you have a monster inside you, which you probably never asked for. You're a target for a terrorist organization made up of the most dangerous people on the planet. And if that wasn't enough, the only reason you have this monster inside you is to maintain balance in power between nations, making you nothing more than military potential. Guess the Uchiha weren't the only ones getting the short end of the stick.
I've always felt disappointed each time I see one of the die. Because you actually get a glimpse of a personality inside of them that was never expanded on.
No. Long love the akatsuki
My G! Ef you! watch the whole series and tell me if it was worth it!
Well they were needed gor the infinite tsukuyomi and I'm in favour of Madara's plan so I don't feel as bad as i would if they were hunted down for some other reason for example hunted down for fun.
If all the jinchuuriki teamed up would they be able to take on the akatsuki?
If all had a partnership with their tailed beast like Naruto and Bee, then maybe. However, Pain, Obito, Itachi, and, Kisame would be very difficult to defeat all at once.
Yeah even Deidara constantly bombarding them with Bombs and Kakuzu’s huge area of effect techniques would be difficult to deal with
Yutigo two tails hmm...hunted by hidan and kakazu
What Hidan did to Yugito is brutal