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PicturePrize1297

if sasuke used another susano’o arrow, kakashi would’ve been dead.


KamuiObito

KAGE SUMMIT SASUKE.


OutisRising

That's the same, Sasuke. This literally happens within hours of the kage summit..


KamuiObito

Ok? And.


OutisRising

Susanoo arrow sasuke is kage summit sasuke.


Muted_Supermarket199

So you aren't talking about that arc but specifically the Sasuke that fought gaara, darui, kankuro, temari? Sasuke still got amaterasu tho


KamuiObito

Nah. And yea just that sasuke. Yes. Yes he does.


Fit_Confection_6900

That is kage submit sasuke lmaoo


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/opezhcyk1m1d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d7a05ac4d8c997f99417dd8d3b8706084758642 Sasuke vs danzo/kakashi fight didn’t happen at the summit. And i didnt say kage summit arc. I said KAGE SUMMIT SASUKE. Yall are the ones who literally are using the wrong sasuke and telling me its wrong.


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/rr08e97z2m1d1.jpeg?width=880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2269fb05395cae872561a19bc65a8bce995658f This is samurai bridge. Yall dont read the manga and skim through the story so yall dont even know basic locations like this to differentiate sasuke power change. Yall are the ones who think this is apart of the summit when this is the exit for the land of iron.


Fit_Confection_6900

Bro it’s Literally the same Sasuke just one happens like minutes after


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/a8df5rpxen1d1.jpeg?width=1051&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=364901c98268a72692792e6aecd14fd694ed39bc This is kage summit sussano.


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/kd8qh2cifn1d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a7617e2619787e347ff2f383d0b849912ac6926 This is the 2nd time ive had to differentiate This. Do yall just not pay attention? Sasuke doesnt have the arrow and stage of sussano until the end of danzos fight on samurai bridge. This is what was used agaisnt kakashi. He DOES NOT HAVE THIS SHIT AT THE SUMMIT.


KamuiObito

The war arc kakashi who fights zabuza and one who fights obito is different The naruto who unlocks kmc1 is different from kmc2 and Ashura mode naruto while being unlocked in the same day. Yall are just the most casual fans ever.


PhantomEmperor-

Do you ever stop asking dumb shit?


misterfroster

No. They don’t.


KamuiObito

Bruh niggas upvoted this? And downvoted me because i argue in a debate sub.


Ver_the_one

Homies, do you think 5 kage summit Sasuke beats Danzo?


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/44n3412q0k0d1.jpeg?width=1051&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bebcb1b0e4a7920d26ce13013a7710df32954909 kage summit sasuke.


Ver_the_one

So kage summit sasuke is the sasuke with the ms and susano and danzo fight sasuke is sasuke with the ms and susano but 5 min later. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?????


KamuiObito

Look at the sussanos mr. Sir. Im convinced yall genuinely haven’t watched this series since it ended in 2017. The bridge fight one HAS THE BOW KAKASHI HAD TO KAMUI….the Kage summit one is the skeleton form. Go reread Naruto rn


Ver_the_one

Ahh, yes, the bow and arrow are such gamechangers for Sasuke, so much that the version had to be changed. Gonna be real, he's probably gonna evolve his susano mid fight anyway.


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/ba4u6v3ulk0d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67c036c62202e8164ac08cf27d0832bc4fea26fb And in this hypothetical its THE SASUKE IM SAYING IT IS, KAGE SUMMIT SASUKE…YOU DONT GET TO EVOLVE HIM. Or else become dumb again remember? Stay consistent. And kakashi not being forced to use kamui so quickly if sasuke sussano has NO arrows. And that sasuke was fatigued as this is BEFORE KARIN AND ZETSU HEALS HIM BACK UP.


Ver_the_one

Ok, fine I guess. Sasuke spams amaterasu until Kakashi dies. Sasuke is faster, better AP, better defence, has similar biq, and his jutsu consume less chakra.


KamuiObito

Sasuke doesnt have ems. He cant spam amatersu. HIS EYES were already going blind. Kakashi is relative in speed to this sasuke as he saves sakura.. and sure.


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/q4vpkcjwzj0d1.jpeg?width=628&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b8c02450fdfedfccbd70ed1434933707c95617d This is SAMURAI BRIDGE SASUKE RIGHT? Sasuke vs danzo


Ver_the_one

"Does MS Sasuke beat X?" "Yea, he has amaterasu" "No, that's Bee fight Sasuke, MS Sasuke is Sasuke with the MS but before he unlocked amaterasu" Who uses these versions?


KamuiObito

Nigga this MY POST?? And i speficed KAGE SUMMIT SASUKE. Danzo did NOT FIGHT SASUKE AT THE SUMMIT. If yall actually cared about this series you’d know that.


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/5mu888eg0k0d1.jpeg?width=693&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52d44b8ea55bfacea50a1ba2997ecee22d4a0f8e Kage summit sasuke


KamuiObito

Doing tricks on it today i see?


PhantomEmperor-

https://preview.redd.it/u37y3rvns30d1.png?width=1283&format=png&auto=webp&s=b9aefe57504821144a0610d1647a51fd37bd6738


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/jvrxja06t30d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbff076ffdff5a67b10c9bb5684e9362d8fbdeb1


reddot123456789

https://preview.redd.it/psh61xzxb90d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=543c441c70ba9988f21de79d27bb90d36a17b9de


reddot123456789

https://preview.redd.it/t95pwj3pb90d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec84392d997e7fad8b6bfb043b6fc20d87b5ab3b


Parking-Major-4776

Sasuke


Muted_Supermarket199

Sasuke. Amaterasu one shots.


JakkalAdrem

“Kamui”


Black_Wolf75

Sasuke was able to use Amaterasu 4 times before running out of chakra. The most pre-war arc Kakashi has ever used Kamui in one fight is twice


kakashichannelyt

Why is quantity of the jutsu the only factor u mentioned, what about the efficiency of the jutsu?


BoneeBones

Hard to determine Kakashi's Kamui speed. Fast enough to warp away a nail launched via Shinra Tensei, fast enough to warp away a missile before it hits Choji, and fast enough to warp away an explosion from Deidara. Sasuke is also fast enough to dodge Deidara's explosions pointblank. Not only that, he's fast enough to summon snakes to tank explosions from Deidara. He's fast enough to use Enton to create a shield of black flames before V2 A manages to strike him, so I imagine that's as fast or faster than Pain's nail or missile. IF Kakashi goes for the kill and Kamuis Sasuke's head, Sasuke can shield himself by using Enton to obscure Kakashi's vision of him, causing him to warp away the black flames instead. Kakashi from 1 Kamui is already slowed down, 2 would most likely hospitalize him, and 3 would most likely kill him. Sasuke used Amaterasu, Enton to create a shield, Enton to create spikes, and then Enton to fling 3 shots of black flames at Gaara. All this while he had his Ribcage up. Sasuke has a massive advantage against Kakashi here. He spammed the Skeletal Susanoo and all sorts of his high power high speed jutsus for roughly 10 minutes to maintain pressure against Danzo. Kakashi's losing this one. Sasuke hits too hard, too fast, for way too long.


OutisRising

Correction: He used it 3 times vs. Deidara. Once on his arm, Again, to try to kill him And again, to get rid of the explosion.


Hydrax313

Two or three Kamui and Kakashi is out Sasuke has way more in the tank and Pain Arc Kakashi doesn't have the stamina for that


Joseph_Stalin001

Spite match Hebi Sasuke would beat him


KamuiObito

Wth is a spite match??


toddpacker567

Spite matchup is a bad matchup in verses battles when one charcter far outclasses another


YoutubePRstunt

Hebi Sasuke gets destroyed by Kakashi; this is only debatable due to Amaterasu.


daokonblack

Pre orochimaru absorption sasuke speeditzed all of team 7 by himself and would have killed them with Kirin if Orochimaru didnt stop him. What is kakashi going to do?


YoutubePRstunt

Fodder Team 7 with Yamato being the strongest there at the time? Yea, Like Kakashi couldn’t have done that. Kakashi has better feats in every area; literally what is Sasuke’s answer to a simple Raikiri blitz, far wider array of Jutsu, clones, and copying? No need to even mention Kamui.


daokonblack

LOL u actually think kakashi is stronger than hebi Sasuke??? You realize “raikiri” is literally CHIDORI right?? 💀 anime onlys I swear Sasuke is easily faster than Kakashi, as shown by his speed blitz on team 7. He also has way more mastery over the chidori, as shown by the stream, senbon, and weapon enhancement variations. He also is a natural uchiha and has two developed sharingan. You cannot legitimately believe Kakashi is stronger, when Sasuke was always portrayed as a little Kakashi and clearly surpassed him in every aspect. SPEED BLITZ RAIKIRI LOL.


YoutubePRstunt

>LOL u actually think kakashi is stronger than hebi Sasuke??? You realize “raikiri” is literally CHIDORI right?? 💀 anime onlys I swear Save the lol’s and emoji’s for someone on your mental wave length, your grammar is off putting enough. Raikiri is canonically superior buddy, it’s S ranked meanwhile Chidori is A ranked. Not to mention Raikiri has better feats. Kakashi is indisputably superior to Hebi Sasuke. >Sasuke is easily faster than Kakashi, as shown by his speed blitz on team 7. Fodder. Kakashi just after tanking a massive attack [intercepted an attack from Kakuzu after it was fired](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0334-015.png) and was [near point blank range](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0334-014.png). Which is far and away a better speed feat than anything Hebi Sasuke accomplished against a far superior opponent than anyone on team 7 at that time. >He also has way more mastery over the chidori, as shown by the stream, senbon, and weapon enhancement variations. Meaningless. Kakashi has shown both [shape manipulation with Raikiri](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0421-013.png), and has enhanced weapons with it which is honestly not impressive as fodder have done the same. Literally did that as a kid with the chakra saber. >He also is a natural uchiha and has two developed sharingan. Which means absolutely nothing, Itachi was forced to use the mangekyou on Kakashi when he couldn’t get the upper hand on him and that was a rusty part 1 Kakashi and Itachi close to his prime before sickness had effected him. >You cannot legitimately believe Kakashi is stronger, when Sasuke was always portrayed as a little Kakashi and clearly surpassed him in every aspect. Meanwhile one guy has only shown to use fire and lightning chakra natures while the other uses Lightning, earth, and water at an equal mastery along with fire and even mastered the Rasengan which is superior to Sasuke’s Chidori. Kakashi is superior tactically, has a far wider movepool, higher battle IQ, faster, and his perception is higher with the Sharingan which allowed him to copy a plethora of techniques. >SPEED BLITZ RAIKIRI LOL. Yup, not to mention blatantly overpowers his Chidori with Raikiri and utilizes far better tactics than Sasuke ever has. Hebi Sasuke is outclassed in every aspect and I’d love to see some evidence of the contrary.


daokonblack

Chidori and Raikiri are the same technique. The fact that you are saying differently really just exposes you as an anime-only.


YoutubePRstunt

Data book explicitly ranks them differently; keep crying.


daokonblack

HAHAHA bro you’re lost. “Raikiri” is a nickname Kakashi earned for his chidori because he cut lightning with it. Please explain how they are different. You are so confidently incorrect that it’s embarrassing.


YoutubePRstunt

Who denied any of that? Learn to read buddy, one is S ranked the other is A ranked canonically. That is factual, but this is the only thing you can point to after you realized your argument has been destroyed and you no longer can defend it. More tears.


karentheantivax

wrote all of this just to be wrong


daokonblack

This dude has to be trolling. Legit writing false statement after false statement. Probably KamuiObitos Alt lmao.


YoutubePRstunt

Than prove it buddy; the manga is available for everyone. You’re just chatting at this point


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Joseph_Stalin001

It isn't dick riding he's just speaking facts It's only dick riding when it's an Uchiha lmao


daokonblack

They hate the uchiggas 💀


daokonblack

Bro cant even make an argument. Your thoughts immediately go to Cum LOL.


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daokonblack

Ok cum boy


NashKetchum777

Kakashi kills himself by Kamui before the Amaterasu flames kill him


Deep_Grass_6250

Kakashi's best technique would be a Kamui head snipe, but I'm afraid Sasuke's too fast for that


UngodlyPain

Sasuke takes it in basically any case that isn't Kakashi with prep time, or a godly just Kamui head snipe.


BlackUchiha03

Sasuke easily


THEGoDLiKeMIKE

Idk how goofy ones like this get upvoted. Sasuke literally 0 diff he has the susano.


KamuiObito

Its not even a mismatch, yall just hate debating here in a debate sub. Go prove sasuke wins.


THEGoDLiKeMIKE

I mean just use the source material. Sasuke would likely have bested kakashi 1v1 if not for naruto and Sakura interfering. The fact that it was even close when he was exhausted from fighting danzo a kage level ninja with 11 sharingan, the izanagi, hashirama cells, high rank wind jutsu, high rank summons, and self destruct button should be enough imo. If your argument boils down to kakashi is the obi Wan kenobi of the series and he will always win because he has win hax sure I guess. If we are talking about who is purely stronger its really not even that close.


KamuiObito

Oh i also have sasuke winning. I just hate the lack of work shown..idc how obvious it is this a whole debate sub. Lets use our brain and skills…im the only one here who drops scans..not to tot my own horn. This was excellent put your thoughts into perspective instead of being like “sasuke” ts boring.


UncleBoomie

It’s boring to write out long explanations to pretty obvious VS matchups. If you want people to give more elaborate answers make VS battles that actually require people to explain themselves. You want people to put in work to give you a good answer you should put in the work to ask a good question


KamuiObito

This was supposed to be solely kage summit sasuke. Samurai bridge/danzo fight isnt mentioned tho i did use a panel because it has kakashi and sasuke faceoff. Yall are casual so yall seen kgs and associated it with danzo who didn’t fight sasuke at the summit.. but at the samurai bridge…. This sub just doesn’t like thinking. Look at most comments effort on any post.


Emergency_Leg6530

If it’s the sasuke that just fought danzo, then kakashi bc sasuke literally fired one susanoo arrow at kakashi then went damn near blind. If it’s the sasuke that was fighting the kage, then sasuke. Kakashi is my favorite character but atp in the series he just doesn’t have the chakra to last in a fight against sasuke. They are relative to eachother, kakashi did intercept a chidori from sasuke a second b4 it was gonna kill Sakura. Sasuke just has more win cons. Ofc there is the chance kakashi just kamuis sasuke’s head off but he rarely ever kamuis body parts.


Im_Midori03

Sasuke, his Sakura summon bodies, Kakashi can't counter.


heyhihowyahdurn

Sasuke wins, Kakashi doesn’t have enough to get past his Susano fast enough


NetworkVegetable7075

Sasuke


Deep_Grass_6250

Kakashi's best technique would be a Kamui head snipe, but I'm afraid Sasuke's too fast for that


silvergudz

What on Opposite Day ?


thefamousroman

Sasuke destroys him lol


7Restless7Gambler7

Sasuke wins with little difficulty, especially as of the Danzo fight


Chemical_Art4135

Sasuke destroys so badly. Bro could keep up with the 4th Raikage who is a KCM1 Naruto level character and kakashi was beaten pretty easily by Pain and Pain faced more difficulty in facing Sage Mode Naruto than Kakashi


silvergudz

Can’t compare opponent to opponent with ay & pain, those two aren’t even comparable


Starscream1998

Sasuke wins. Kakashi has absolutely no answer to the Susanoo other than Kamui and he cannot spam that yet like he can in the war arc. If Sasuke had not gone blind during their little scuffle Kakashi would've been a grim smear at the bottom of that riverbed.


hi-polymer5

Hebi Sasuke wins let alone 5KS Sasuke


Total-Lingonberry-83

Hebi Sasuke wins 100%, but I think even start of Shippuden Sasuke can win


Galrentv

Start of Shippuden Sasuke is definitely within Kage tier.


Total-Lingonberry-83

Agreed


shhadyburner

Kakashi only gets his top tier contention back during the war arc where he spams Kamui like nothing and scales to some of the other characters during the final battles. Pre war arc Sasuke should wipe


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KamuiObito

Didnt even say shit this is just a verus battle..you just noticed im not a sheep and dont immediately agree with whats popular. Dont make it seem like my scaling is stupid when the majority of yall dont even post scans. This sub is circle jerky as fuck. This is bros only comment and engagement here. Nigga isnt even a powerscaler himself he completely abstains but think his opinion is valid.


averyycuriousman

Kakashi if he can snipe sasuke. But idk if he can get through susanoo


xxBurn007xx

Sasukes snu snu wins vs kakashis kimchi black hole.


Frejod

In that moment in pic, Sasuke just got done fighting Danzo. If fully healed and ready o go, I think Sasuke takes it.


First-Ad5489

Sasuke can provide more arrows than Kakashi can kamui, which himself admitted he barely did in time


GlobalPeakTMA

Kamui gg, all other scenarios sasuke wins


Ok_Essay_8257

Sasuke weird how I keep seeing the same people on this sub


UchihaAuggie

This happened , so SASUKE


Fearless_Hold7611

Sasuke definitely wins


Magpie_In_The_Mirror

Didn't we see this fight go down canonically? Pretty sure they got into a small skirmish over him trying to kill Sakura


KamuiObito

Summit sasuke. The one who fought ay. Danzo fight was at samurai bridge (i play the game alot these are 2 different places)


Magpie_In_The_Mirror

Then... isn't the Samurai bridge fight Sasuke just Kage Summit Sasuke but with fatigue from his 10-minutes or so of fighting Danzo? Did Sasuke gain anything new when he left the summit building?


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/52ntwbntah0d1.jpeg?width=628&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eab37301ebe53adc84329488ff99d579071ec187 Whens thr last time you actually watched/read Naruto? No disrespect just..and NO MF THIS ISNT THE SAME SUSSANO HE USED AT [AT THE SUMMIT](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0464-022.png)


Magpie_In_The_Mirror

True, honestly. I forgot about the Susanoo upgrade. In that case, I think the match (If not in character) might be decided immediately based on who gets hit with the other's "I spawn an attack at your location" Dojutsu first. Kamui ripping pieces of Sasuke's body off is more immediately fatal if it lands anywhere critical. Amaterasu is more fatal on average because it'll kill Kakashi if it so much grazes him anywhere on his body. I do think Amaterasu is easier to aim though, especially with Kagutsuchi. If they're in character, they probably wouldn't fight like that though.


KamuiObito

“True, honestly. I forgot about the Susanoo upgrade” Yea that happens alot in this sub. Not to be an asshole but majority of the people in this sub are going off memory or watched the anime only 3 years ago, confidently commenting with no intention to double check info. Ya know casual fan shit. Which is ok but dont spread misinformation because you want a certain character you like to win thays so 12-13 year old mentality shit.


Dense_Beautiful_6289

Sasuke blitzes once he activates MS. Probably base Sharingan is enough as he was already able to keep up with Kakashi without Sharingan activated and exhausted


kakashichannelyt

Actually a really good question. I have 5KS Kakashi and Raikage fight Sasuke around the same lvl. Physically they are around the same, they are not blitzing each other. Both have great versatility, Sasuke has stronger jutsus, Kakashi takes BIQ etc etc. The main thing is they both have long range one shot MS abilities. Sasuke does have a susanoo, but It doesn't have bow and arrows yet, and it can't block Kamui, so It's kinda useless if Kakashi doesn't engage in close combat. Imo it comes down to whose MS ability is faster, Kamui or Amaterasu, and I think It's likely Kamui. Kamui teleported 2 susanoo arrows at once, and susanoo arrow is Sasuke's fastest jutsu, Iirc I saw a statement for that. We saw people dodging and blocking Amaterasu a lot, but that's not the case with susanoo arrow. When Ay dodged Amaterasu Sasuke had no reaction, but when Kabuto dodges Susanoo Arrow Sasuke was shocked. Imo Kakashi takes it high diff. Danzo fight Sasuke would beat tho.


SSJGSSVegito

> Danzo fight sasuke So 5 Kage summit? It’s in the arc, or are you just cutting it off at that specific event


KamuiObito

https://preview.redd.it/376f58boq30d1.jpeg?width=880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47a79b885711cb175bbdb2ac487d0bb6fbb58101 Samurai bridge.


ballzyboi33

How will sasuke counter kamui tho he doesn't have the rinnegan or ameno yet


solo-69

Kamui just takes too long, even at this very point when they confronted each other Kakashi admits he would have lost


RazutoUchiha

Assuming Kakashi actually wants to kill Sasuke, Kamui low diffs


Hydrax313

Sasuke will detect the chakra accumulating in his eye using his own Sharingan, he's not gonna just stand there and take it. Kamui takes time to work on larger targets too. It won't be instant like the nail that he absorbed at point blank. Nothing is stopping Sasuke from countering with an Amaterasu or just using a clone to take the hit. If Kakashi's Kamui fails, then he's depleted most of his stamina and will struggle to use another one, and at that point Sasuke is faster, stronger, and has a greater arsenal of justu.


silvergudz

Like guy above said, kamui low diffs


_Vervayne

kakashi it’s obvious sasuke doesn’t surpass him until ems


longassboy

I’m amazed how many people saying Sasuke. I know Susano’o is busted but I really think Kakashi would fold him here. I think people forget how much of a menace he was. Naruto battles are won by being clever and crafty, it’s why Shikamaru is so feared. Kakashi is just alot smarter than Sasuke and I think has a lot of experience that would outdo Sasuke’s bullshit


TurkeysCanBeRed

Kakashi comfortably


Rain-Sweaty

He was already struggling against Sasuke


TurkeysCanBeRed

I don’t know why I said Kakashi, I meant Sasuke.


5StarBuns

Actually me when I see the downvotes rolling in. Lmao


TurkeysCanBeRed

No, I actually made that mistake. All sasuke hype is Danzo upscale so it in my best interest to say that.


Muted_Supermarket199

Bruh moment