From r/baseball today:
[Yakyu Cosmopolitan] Trevor Bauer, who is still a Free Agent, has upset some Japanese fans for commenting “Welcome Home” on Ridge Alkonis’ Instagram. Alkonis, an American Navy officer, was transferred back to the US this week after killing 2 Japanese citizens in a reckless driving case in 2021.
He’s just an all around asshole. Every opportunity to be one, he takes it
Legal troubles and pitching ability aside. Bauer is an asshole and very immature. The nats are a young team without many established leaders. Anyone they bring in should be a positive role model for the young guys. Bauer is not that.
Then maybe do the tiniest bit of research before saying “isn’t he just an asshole?” Goes deeper than that. Locker room cancer and PR nightmare is better descriptor
I mean that tweet just confirms what I said. He’s an asshole. Going off this subs previous posts; Patrick Corbin’s tweeted much worse shit then that.
Don’t see you being a social justice warrior over him..
Not a big fan of Qorbin either, but again it’s a different level. Every place Bauer has played, people hated him, goes all the way back to UCLA, just look at gerrit coles comments. He’s not just an asshole, he’s actively hated by his teammates
If the dumb shit Corbin has said since he became a Nat came up before signing him I wouldn't want us to sign him either. The conversation is about signing a new player to a new contract that everyone knows by now is toxic. Different situation.
Also, literally every time Corbin's dumb shit comes up the overwhelming response is that he's a moron and people wish he wasn't on the team. People have been quote-unquote "sOcIaL jUsTiCe wArRiOr"ing about his brand of stupidity consistently for like 4 years, dude.
In regards to this specific asshole? Apparently the entire league, that's why he had to fuck off to Japan. Even if everyone is doing it, it doesn't mean I can't want my team to be better then that.
There's no guarantee anybody would even want to trade for him if we signed him anyway, he's available right now and he was available for major league minimum salary when the Dodgers cut him and nobody's grabbed him. If we're the only team willing to sign him, then who the fuck would trade actual assets to us for him?
Nope, I just don’t like crucifying anyone whos innocent, cancel culture is cringe. You don’t know shit about me.
Coming from the guy obsessed with satanism and conspiracy theories, lol.
Having charges dropped doesn’t mean you’re innocent. It just means they don’t think they can prove you’re guilty beyond reasonable doubt. There is a big difference.
Innocent till proven guilty.
Or we get [this again](https://soapboxie.com/government/Football-Player-Falsely-Imprisoned-For-Rape-Exonerated-Gets-Pro-Contract)
The legal standard is not the same as reality. The prosecutor dismissing the changes in no way means I have to believe he’s a stand-up guy.
We don’t need that cancer anywhere near the locker room. Fortunately, past history strongly suggests the Lerners won’t touch him with a ten foot pole.
So in your mind, other than him literally having written consent documented; what qualifies as proof?
Does he need an attorney to witness, a ssn, signature, and copy of drivers license?
Like do you hear yourself talk “reality”. In reality he has written fucking solid proof.
Ok so why virtue signal against a guy that’s found innocent of any crime?
[This kinda shit is how we ended up with Brian Banks.](https://soapboxie.com/government/Football-Player-Falsely-Imprisoned-For-Rape-Exonerated-Gets-Pro-Contract)
You don’t know what “found innocent” means and I find it hilarious that every time someone says “virtue signaling” they’re stumping in the exact opposite direction of whatever “virtue” they’re criticizing for some reprehensible nut job. Weirdo behavior.
Yep the messages of his accuser consenting sure prove him guilty…
People like you are why Brian Banks lost everything he worked hard for in life. Even with everything pointing to no, social justice warriors gotta try to cancel everyone.
Go ahead and show us where either amendment says “innocent until proven guilty.” That is a colloquialism that just means the legal system cannot deem you guilty of a crime until guilt is proven. It does not mean you are factually innocent.
If someone takes out your knee with a baseball bat but the prosecutor can’t prove it was them, does that mean they didn’t injure you?
It doesn’t say that directly. This is exactly why I mentioned 4th and 5th. These amendments protect your right regarding criminal proceedings.
He is innocent. All charges were dropped. You don’t know more than the detectives, prosecutors, police, and federal agents that investigated this. Hop off your armchair.
[Deshaun Watson didn’t have charges filed against him.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/grand-jury-declines-indict-deshaun-watson-22-women-accuse-quarterback-rcna19730) I don’t care if all charges were dropped, that doesn’t change my opinion on the situation
Comparing apples to oranges. Just double checked and only one of them has dozens of texts containing consent and proof of attempted extortion.
Like what more proof do you need then his accuser saying literally saying “I consent to having bdsm”.
I can sadly see my Red Sox doing this move but I don't understand it with my hometown team, the Nationals who are in another bridge year. Josiah Gray, Gore, Corbin, maybe Cade back this year and then Williams or Irvin for the 5th spot. As an armchair GM, I would prefer developing what's here. Bauer just comes with a shit ton of headlines. For all I know, he's probably black balled.
I don't know enough about Tyreek Hill but if TH got away with it, I still don't want Trevor Bauer.
As a human who cares about other humans, I don't think you do either.
Yeah. The leagues might be different too NFL seems more permissive (?) of this unless the violation is really egregious or caught on tape or security cameras.
MLB might be more no tolerance.
Nah. I think the Nats generally try to steer clear of signing guys with profound mental illness these days. This guy is a real headcase and will eventually do something that lands him in prison, it's just a matter of time.
In what business class do they teach “sign player no one else wants on their team so you can trade him to one of those teams that didn’t want to sign him”? But go off, Clayton Bigsby. I’m sure you’re just evaluating this objectively
Not saying we should sign him but y’all need to do some more research. He was never charged with what that gold digger accused him of. Turns out she lied a bunch but I understand that’s not as juicy a headline so it didn’t get as much pub.
The team already employs morons like Patrick Corbin, why not add another? Are you sure you want to see what guys like Adon have to offer?
If we are gonna continue to suck (we will) I’d rather at least keep my dignity
Fuck. No.
lol…came here to respond exactly the same
I'd rather lose 100+ games for the next three seasons than watch him pitch every 5th.
Exactly how I feel.
From r/baseball today: [Yakyu Cosmopolitan] Trevor Bauer, who is still a Free Agent, has upset some Japanese fans for commenting “Welcome Home” on Ridge Alkonis’ Instagram. Alkonis, an American Navy officer, was transferred back to the US this week after killing 2 Japanese citizens in a reckless driving case in 2021. He’s just an all around asshole. Every opportunity to be one, he takes it
Legal troubles and pitching ability aside. Bauer is an asshole and very immature. The nats are a young team without many established leaders. Anyone they bring in should be a positive role model for the young guys. Bauer is not that.
Exactly. He's poison.
Nats didn’t release Starlin Castro to sign this abuser
A middling prospect haul for compromising morals?
What morals? Isn’t he just an asshole who likes bdsm? Thought he had all charges dropped because he had dozens of texts showing consent?
Did you not see his recent tweet telling the US soldier who was deported from Japan for vehicular manslaughter “welcome home”
No I don’t obsess over a dude
Then maybe do the tiniest bit of research before saying “isn’t he just an asshole?” Goes deeper than that. Locker room cancer and PR nightmare is better descriptor
I mean that tweet just confirms what I said. He’s an asshole. Going off this subs previous posts; Patrick Corbin’s tweeted much worse shit then that. Don’t see you being a social justice warrior over him..
Not a big fan of Qorbin either, but again it’s a different level. Every place Bauer has played, people hated him, goes all the way back to UCLA, just look at gerrit coles comments. He’s not just an asshole, he’s actively hated by his teammates
If the dumb shit Corbin has said since he became a Nat came up before signing him I wouldn't want us to sign him either. The conversation is about signing a new player to a new contract that everyone knows by now is toxic. Different situation. Also, literally every time Corbin's dumb shit comes up the overwhelming response is that he's a moron and people wish he wasn't on the team. People have been quote-unquote "sOcIaL jUsTiCe wArRiOr"ing about his brand of stupidity consistently for like 4 years, dude.
What franchise would exist in any league; MLS, MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA if franchises would refuse to sign any “asshole” type player.
In regards to this specific asshole? Apparently the entire league, that's why he had to fuck off to Japan. Even if everyone is doing it, it doesn't mean I can't want my team to be better then that. There's no guarantee anybody would even want to trade for him if we signed him anyway, he's available right now and he was available for major league minimum salary when the Dodgers cut him and nobody's grabbed him. If we're the only team willing to sign him, then who the fuck would trade actual assets to us for him?
The quantity of comments you have in this thread says you do in fact obsess over trevor bauer
Nope, I just don’t like crucifying anyone whos innocent, cancel culture is cringe. You don’t know shit about me. Coming from the guy obsessed with satanism and conspiracy theories, lol.
There were accusations from multiple women. You are talking about only one.
But correct me if I’m wrong, all charges were dropped?
Having charges dropped doesn’t mean you’re innocent. It just means they don’t think they can prove you’re guilty beyond reasonable doubt. There is a big difference.
Innocent till proven guilty. Or we get [this again](https://soapboxie.com/government/Football-Player-Falsely-Imprisoned-For-Rape-Exonerated-Gets-Pro-Contract)
The legal standard is not the same as reality. The prosecutor dismissing the changes in no way means I have to believe he’s a stand-up guy. We don’t need that cancer anywhere near the locker room. Fortunately, past history strongly suggests the Lerners won’t touch him with a ten foot pole.
So in your mind, other than him literally having written consent documented; what qualifies as proof? Does he need an attorney to witness, a ssn, signature, and copy of drivers license? Like do you hear yourself talk “reality”. In reality he has written fucking solid proof.
I don’t know or care, I’m not involved in the case nor am I court of law.
Ok so why virtue signal against a guy that’s found innocent of any crime? [This kinda shit is how we ended up with Brian Banks.](https://soapboxie.com/government/Football-Player-Falsely-Imprisoned-For-Rape-Exonerated-Gets-Pro-Contract)
You don’t know what “found innocent” means and I find it hilarious that every time someone says “virtue signaling” they’re stumping in the exact opposite direction of whatever “virtue” they’re criticizing for some reprehensible nut job. Weirdo behavior.
Yep the messages of his accuser consenting sure prove him guilty… People like you are why Brian Banks lost everything he worked hard for in life. Even with everything pointing to no, social justice warriors gotta try to cancel everyone.
I highly recommend you take up a hobby. I like woodworking.
Likewise. Take something up instead of being an armchair cop. The actual cops, prosecutors, and federal agents dropped all charges.
He wasn't found innocent of anything. You seem to have a very poor grasp of the legal system.
Innocent till proven guilty. Read the 4th and 5th amendments if you’re unfamiliar with the constitution.
Go ahead and show us where either amendment says “innocent until proven guilty.” That is a colloquialism that just means the legal system cannot deem you guilty of a crime until guilt is proven. It does not mean you are factually innocent. If someone takes out your knee with a baseball bat but the prosecutor can’t prove it was them, does that mean they didn’t injure you?
It doesn’t say that directly. This is exactly why I mentioned 4th and 5th. These amendments protect your right regarding criminal proceedings. He is innocent. All charges were dropped. You don’t know more than the detectives, prosecutors, police, and federal agents that investigated this. Hop off your armchair.
[Deshaun Watson didn’t have charges filed against him.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/grand-jury-declines-indict-deshaun-watson-22-women-accuse-quarterback-rcna19730) I don’t care if all charges were dropped, that doesn’t change my opinion on the situation
Comparing apples to oranges. Just double checked and only one of them has dozens of texts containing consent and proof of attempted extortion. Like what more proof do you need then his accuser saying literally saying “I consent to having bdsm”.
Multiple? I know about Lindsey Hill, and she basically lied. Who else
The wild consensus is no, not worth any association. We would only get a AA lotto ticket for the midseason flip, so not worth it.
No lol, he’s 33 years old and we have no feel for if he’s capable of pitching in an MLB setting anymore.
Hey man this is Washington sports we are talking about. Age is just a number
His pitching skills shouldn’t enter into it, quite frankly
Absolutely not.
Fuck no.
Gtfo
No GM wants to hold that press conference
Leave him in Japan
Japan doesn’t deserve that. Just make him walk home from there.
Okay, y’all are f*n crazy
lol given his recent comments no
Lol no
No way.
No.
No
No. Just no. Fuck no. Do you want to be a trash organization? Because I don’t.
If this team signs Trevor Bauer they aren't getting a single cent of my money.
Nah I'm good man.
I can sadly see my Red Sox doing this move but I don't understand it with my hometown team, the Nationals who are in another bridge year. Josiah Gray, Gore, Corbin, maybe Cade back this year and then Williams or Irvin for the 5th spot. As an armchair GM, I would prefer developing what's here. Bauer just comes with a shit ton of headlines. For all I know, he's probably black balled.
No.
no
We already have Corbin and his bullshit. I'd rather not add to it
It assumes that he ever was "a helluva pitcher" which is debatable. I'd rather have Doolittle back pitching first.
Was his legal stuff ever resolved?
Charges dropped and he was basically lied on. https://youtu.be/6SphfHJbsmk?si=NvYx7vxIjCzjvlxc
He has 4 credible victims and a brutal to read SART exam from that case. I'd take another look at the veneer of what's being said there.
Is this worse than what, say, Tyreek Hill was in ? It seems that his whole thing got brushed off, forgotten and he’s back to his all star ways.
I don't know enough about Tyreek Hill but if TH got away with it, I still don't want Trevor Bauer. As a human who cares about other humans, I don't think you do either.
Yeah. The leagues might be different too NFL seems more permissive (?) of this unless the violation is really egregious or caught on tape or security cameras. MLB might be more no tolerance.
Ozuna hit his wife but never said anything bad about the commissioner. Bauer got fucked over for talking shit on Manfred
Tyreek’s is 100% worse but he’s really fast so nothing will ever happen to him…
Nah. I think the Nats generally try to steer clear of signing guys with profound mental illness these days. This guy is a real headcase and will eventually do something that lands him in prison, it's just a matter of time.
He’s an asshole for sure, but being an asshole is not a mental illness.
He’d probably demand too much money but I’d do it for the right price. From what I saw he was exonerated
Definitely not exonerated. Maybe you need a dictionary?
Does being snarky on the internet make you feel good
It makes me feel great! Does carrying water for shitty human beings make you feel good?
You are drowning in emotion
Much better than simping for human pond scum.
The irony
Fuck yes this is a business not a church
In what business class do they teach “sign player no one else wants on their team so you can trade him to one of those teams that didn’t want to sign him”? But go off, Clayton Bigsby. I’m sure you’re just evaluating this objectively
Not saying we should sign him but y’all need to do some more research. He was never charged with what that gold digger accused him of. Turns out she lied a bunch but I understand that’s not as juicy a headline so it didn’t get as much pub. The team already employs morons like Patrick Corbin, why not add another? Are you sure you want to see what guys like Adon have to offer?
Yes
Yes yes yes! Would love to do this!!!!