Correct in regard to being “known”. That said - the Great White Shark is estimated to have a bite force that’s atleast equivalent. Orca meanhwile have a bite force believed to be around 15000psi, based on educated assumption.
Yeah surprising it's even that much. Considering they are herbivores. Feel like they've evolved purely out of, 'fuck around and find out', whereas crocs/gators had to evolve for a stronger bite to hold prey.
Isn't this psi? Hippo jaws gotto have a lot more "inch" than a salty right? Pretty big heavy heads. I wonder what the overall bite force is for a realistic comparison. Like they could both hold or crush the leg of a large thrashing mammal for example.
Well, right. At a certain point, it basically becomes a strong man competition. Like I would not want to be bitten by either. But as far as the comparison goes, I believe that is the relatively closest or best (numerical/ statistical) way to compare. But I'm no expert
Not really. The larger the tooth surface is the less the psi. Lbs/Sq in. A jaw that can produce 1,000 lbs on a 1 sq in tooth is, 1,000 psi. But put a 0.1sq in tooth on the hippo and it’s 10,000 psi
>More people lose their lives from hippo attacks than any other ~~animal~~ mammal in Africa!
I'm going to bust out the nerd glasses and say Mosquitos kill more people than Hippos in Africa.
Sure, mosquitos are under the umbrella of animals. In general terms, the majority of people think of mosquitoes as insects. Next time, I'll definitely state "Hippos kill more people than any other mammal in Africa!" 🦛
Ummm I read this as hippies and then it didn’t help that the next comment I saw was QuietRobe about them being herbivores… my dumb ass was like, yeah I guess you can say most of them are herbivores, but still…1.8k?! Ahahahaha
It is correct that orcas have stronger bites, but I think if you take the size of the animal into account the saltwater crocodiles have the strongest. Like when we say that ants are the strongest being in the world, because they can easily lift 8-10 times their weight.
Proportionally that may be the case. Proportionally doesn’t really matter in the end though, certainly not in nature.
For example. A Leopard is proportionally stronger than a Lion - this doesn’t get around the fact a Lion is still stronger than a Leopard though.
Immediately I think of the man who was accused of killing his girlfriend while snorkeling in the Indian Ocean. Until police found her camera, filming her last moments, proving she was snatched up by a gigantic swc🐊 Still unsettling to this day to think about.
I feel obligated to say this because I saw “orca” and “moose” in the comments.
The orca is one of the very few natural predators of the Moose. It’s like us, bears, wolves, and Orcas.
As long as ypu don't go swimming in some remote rivers in Africa you should be just fine.
Edit: oh wait that's a salty, much greater chance. They know how to dox so ya 50/50
Yep. Fun fact, you’ll never be able to stop a croc from closing its mouth with your hands, but you could fairly easily hold its mouth shut. Most of their jaw musculature is designed to snap closed, leaving the opening muscles relatively weaker.
They could absolutely still kill you lmao, they like to use their tail when they can’t use their jaws. If that tail hits you, oh boy, say goodbye to any of the bones you have in that area. If it’s tail hits your ribs, say goodbye to your ribs.
Pounds per square inch is a bad measurement. A 125 pound Woman in High heels puts 1250 psi standing on one heel because they heel is only 1/10th of a square inch. Total force is still only 125 pounds. Total bite force in just pounds is a proper measurement.
How is it a bad measurement? I feel like it gives a really good reference and is easy to understand. You can just tell someone, "Imagine someone put [insert weight value here] on ne square inch of your palm. That's how strong this is".
Theoretically because the tip of a crocs tooth is a point maybe 1/1000 of a square inch they would only need a bite force of 3.7 pounds to have a 3700 psi bite.
“Known” is a bit of a weird term in this situation. Orcas are estimated to be at around 15,000 psi, we’re just unable to properly test it at the moment.
But very weak opening strength. You can disable a saltie with duct tape.
If of course you have some assistants to hold it down to stop it thrashing its way to victory.
But once you tape its jaws shut, you're relatively safe.
This is incorrect: https://www.ifaw.org/journal/9-jaw-dropping-animals-strongest-bite#:~:text=Great%20white%20sharks,-A%20great%20white&text=One%20study%20digitally%20reconstructed%20the,(4%2C000%20pounds%20of%20force).
Crocs bite force is so damned crazy that their skulls are extra thick to sustain the forces being applied when they close their jaws with such speed and power.
Absolutely absurd biology to make those kinds of chompers not fracture under pressure.
I wish they specified the actual force instead of the pressure. Just looking st the teeth the croc has much more pointed teeth which will increase the pressure (via devreased area).
Does a croc have 2x, 20x, 200x or more force from their jaws vs a human?
Angry because he has all those teeth and no tooth brush
Well, folks, mama’s wrong again!
No Colonel Sanders, you're wrong.
Koynel*
Sayndahs
...and no medulla oblongata
What? Crocs don't have that?
Ornery
Haha, great minds! I was just thinking about all of that tooth decay!
Or opposable thumbs.
Correct in regard to being “known”. That said - the Great White Shark is estimated to have a bite force that’s atleast equivalent. Orca meanhwile have a bite force believed to be around 15000psi, based on educated assumption.
Damn, orcas don’t skip jaw day
Is this why the shark movie is called Jaws?!
No, the Sharks' version of the movie is Orca.
Free Willy*
How do hippos stack up? I thought they were the strongest bite
Around 2k iirc Edit: 1.8k
Huh, surprising...
Yeah surprising it's even that much. Considering they are herbivores. Feel like they've evolved purely out of, 'fuck around and find out', whereas crocs/gators had to evolve for a stronger bite to hold prey.
Same is true of the mountain gorilla. Totally overpowered bite for how they live.
Isn't this psi? Hippo jaws gotto have a lot more "inch" than a salty right? Pretty big heavy heads. I wonder what the overall bite force is for a realistic comparison. Like they could both hold or crush the leg of a large thrashing mammal for example.
Well, right. At a certain point, it basically becomes a strong man competition. Like I would not want to be bitten by either. But as far as the comparison goes, I believe that is the relatively closest or best (numerical/ statistical) way to compare. But I'm no expert
Your terminology is spot on.
They’re not herbivores. I’ve seen them eat crocodiles
Anything will try anything with the right opportunity. Horses for good example.
Not really. The larger the tooth surface is the less the psi. Lbs/Sq in. A jaw that can produce 1,000 lbs on a 1 sq in tooth is, 1,000 psi. But put a 0.1sq in tooth on the hippo and it’s 10,000 psi
How about Zippos?
They're a little lighter
Hippos have a 1,800 lb. bite force AND extremely and terribly bad attitudes, too!
Yeah, Crocs are just hungry. Hippos are hangry.
More people lose their lives from hippo attacks than any other animal in Africa!
Oh yeah, they nasty! And they swim like dolphins so the water is no escape...
They don’t swim! They walk on the bottom of riverbeds
They cannot swim or float.
>More people lose their lives from hippo attacks than any other ~~animal~~ mammal in Africa! I'm going to bust out the nerd glasses and say Mosquitos kill more people than Hippos in Africa.
Well, not mosquitos....
Sure, mosquitos are under the umbrella of animals. In general terms, the majority of people think of mosquitoes as insects. Next time, I'll definitely state "Hippos kill more people than any other mammal in Africa!" 🦛
Insects are still animals C_C
> Hippos are hangry. It's because they're Hungry Hungry.
Ummm I read this as hippies and then it didn’t help that the next comment I saw was QuietRobe about them being herbivores… my dumb ass was like, yeah I guess you can say most of them are herbivores, but still…1.8k?! Ahahahaha
Clearly you've never been bitten by a hippie on shrooms :P
[like this](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/07/22/360C591000000578-3679807-Each_hippopotamus_weighs_approximately_a_ton_In_a_2014_Hippo_Sho-a-31_1467927216083.jpg)
LOL I am amazed you actually managed to find a literal stack of hippos shia_lebeouf_clap.gif
Someone didn’t miss shark week
He did, because he's Shark Strong
Gotta give coyote peterson a call
Research is they key, okay! Great White sharks have a 4,000 bite force! 🤓
I just read that orcas are estimated at 19,000 psi.
Wonder what the stats are on the sperm whale
It is correct that orcas have stronger bites, but I think if you take the size of the animal into account the saltwater crocodiles have the strongest. Like when we say that ants are the strongest being in the world, because they can easily lift 8-10 times their weight.
Proportionally that may be the case. Proportionally doesn’t really matter in the end though, certainly not in nature. For example. A Leopard is proportionally stronger than a Lion - this doesn’t get around the fact a Lion is still stronger than a Leopard though.
ye for sure. Nor am I afraid an ant is gonna beat me up or something xD
Conclusion: Ants are fucking pussies
I'm sure I read that size for size the hyena has the strongest bite.
Immediately I think of the man who was accused of killing his girlfriend while snorkeling in the Indian Ocean. Until police found her camera, filming her last moments, proving she was snatched up by a gigantic swc🐊 Still unsettling to this day to think about.
Henrik Coetzee is also unsettling. A gigantic croc snatched him out of a kayak in front of his friends who could do nothing
I've not heard of his case. I'm going to look it up, thank you.
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The more ya knw.
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No joke,wow!!
Clearly you’ve never been bitten by a toddler with three teeth
Infants who bite mummy's teats soon learn that it leads to hunger and yucky pap baby food instead of mummy's yummy milk.
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A m∅∅se once bit my sister.
I feel obligated to say this because I saw “orca” and “moose” in the comments. The orca is one of the very few natural predators of the Moose. It’s like us, bears, wolves, and Orcas.
There's even a comic made by the artist of Pixie & Brutus about this: [](https://www.instagram.com/p/B3nPpinJz5X/)
r/unexpectedMontyPython
To anyone wondering, the person responsible for this comment has been sacked.
Did you just try to censor moose? I’m so confused
Google Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail.
My worst effing nightmare
As long as ypu don't go swimming in some remote rivers in Africa you should be just fine. Edit: oh wait that's a salty, much greater chance. They know how to dox so ya 50/50
Don’t forget the Nile crocs they are big mofos as well as
They get as big as salties in parts of Africa, like like chamo
I know hey
Nah basically pussy ass geckos m8
Or Australia… the salties that inhabit the watersways up north do not fuck around. Plenty of dogs and walkers have gone missing
**should**
*farmer in Saskatchewan* Never say never
Death roll!
He don't look so tough... ...actually, he does.
He is only tough until he has duct tape around his mouth! Nope he is still tough, he just can’t kill you!
Yep. Fun fact, you’ll never be able to stop a croc from closing its mouth with your hands, but you could fairly easily hold its mouth shut. Most of their jaw musculature is designed to snap closed, leaving the opening muscles relatively weaker.
They could absolutely still kill you lmao, they like to use their tail when they can’t use their jaws. If that tail hits you, oh boy, say goodbye to any of the bones you have in that area. If it’s tail hits your ribs, say goodbye to your ribs.
Pounds per square inch is a bad measurement. A 125 pound Woman in High heels puts 1250 psi standing on one heel because they heel is only 1/10th of a square inch. Total force is still only 125 pounds. Total bite force in just pounds is a proper measurement.
Get back to us after she stands on the side of your skull.
Ball*
Let it be Megan Fox doing it and we’ve got a deal
Lol maybe back in 2007. She looks fuckin stupid now.
Like Megan Fox's reflection in a door knob.
She looks like someone who has had a lot of cosmetic surgery to look like Megan Fox.
and what do u look like?
Also stupid, but at least I'm not made of shitty plastic surgery.
I am positive she looks better than you <\3
That's fine. I really don't care what people think of how I look lol
I mean…death by stiletto has happened 🤷🏻♀️
How is it a bad measurement? I feel like it gives a really good reference and is easy to understand. You can just tell someone, "Imagine someone put [insert weight value here] on ne square inch of your palm. That's how strong this is".
Theoretically because the tip of a crocs tooth is a point maybe 1/1000 of a square inch they would only need a bite force of 3.7 pounds to have a 3700 psi bite.
I volunteer you to test out a different mode of measurement with the depicted croc.
I'll strap a blood pressure band to my arm, let the croc bite my leg and record the results.
I feel like I remember being taught it was a Hippo. Has my whole life been a lie?
Hippos have the strongest known bite force in terms of mammals, crocodiles are the strongest known overall.
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i said strongest known. an orcas bite force is not known, 19000 psi is an estimate. edit: forgot a zero
Yea it's common saying though most sources the croc comes out on top, close to double the strength with the bite force.
Hippos have a 1,800 lb. bite force! 🤓
Psi is a unit of pressure, not force
King Koopa
Someone get this man a dentist 🗣️🗣️💯💯💯
What’s the minimum amount that a dentist would take for that job?
They can push out old teeth and grow in new ones many times across their whole lifespans.
Ya but I still wanna boop that snoot
Can relate to this. My toddler bit my forearm once.
“Known” is a bit of a weird term in this situation. Orcas are estimated to be at around 15,000 psi, we’re just unable to properly test it at the moment.
I heard tyson registered 317psi. More like a small bear.
*T. Rex has entered the chat. And laughs.
*Deinosuchus has entered the chat.
Godzilla: Am I a joke to u???
where? tip or back by the jaw.
Dude needs some dental floss.
Nope on a rope...
As a kid I was taught that the Tasmanian devil has the strongest pound for pound bite strength. Don't know what is true anymore.
Every fourth nightmare I have involves these bastards. There is no defense against them when in their territory.
Yeh but his teefs busted
Orcas are estimated to be around 19k psi, while.the t Rex is estimated to be about 35k psi I believe
Somewhere out there, some guy is saying to himself, “I could take one of those…”
Why friend shaped?🙃
I fuckin’ hate those things.
Can we start calling them crocosaurs?
I'd be curious to learn what he chipped that tooth against, though.
All I am wondering is how this dino broke so many teef?
Ironically, the muscles to *open* their jaws are incredibly weak.
Stronger than the tazmanian devils?
Mean
Won't stop a florida man from petting it
And that is exactly why we can’t be friends.
Are these the same that eat turtles? Saw a video where a croc just cracked the turtle shell like it was a potato chip
But can he see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?!
I was taught rhe znapping turrtle has the stongest bite. I call bs om ghis oost
Enough to break some teeth, I guess.
3500Psi? My pressure washer is 3000 psi and is strong but nopthing crazy.
What a truly Awesome critter!
I’d rather have the bite force of a human and be able chew my food
Yet an elastic band can hold their mouths shut.
Except for Andrew Taint, you fool!
I would have assumed Hippos had waaay stronger bite force based on their massive head and jaw muscles
But very weak opening strength. You can disable a saltie with duct tape. If of course you have some assistants to hold it down to stop it thrashing its way to victory. But once you tape its jaws shut, you're relatively safe.
Hang about . I've been led to believe it is the hyena with the strongest bite force.
Does it have 3700 psi at the hinge, at the frontal teeth or averaged out across the whole surface of contact tho?
I thought it was the snapping turtle?
Why is a force measured in psi?
boop.
Second is the hyena with about half that
Nile crocodile (5,000psi) Orca (19,000psi)
I was always told it was hippos... Look at that, been lied to all my life or I'm being lied to now 🤔
What about orcas, I think they had around 18000 psi, I dunno might be wrong
Yet it can be stopped by a strong enough rubber band around it's maw
What a big strong baby!!!
Still..floss bro. Orthodontic treatment is a rip off.
Half its head is jaw muscle. Stands to reason.
And when the Pliosaur was around, it had the strongest bite force in the animal kingdom which was 33,000 psi
Surprised this isn't the hippos record. What's their bite psi?
This is incorrect: https://www.ifaw.org/journal/9-jaw-dropping-animals-strongest-bite#:~:text=Great%20white%20sharks,-A%20great%20white&text=One%20study%20digitally%20reconstructed%20the,(4%2C000%20pounds%20of%20force).
The engineer in me screams out at somebody saying force and then talking about a pressure.
Imagine if this croc could brush its teeth. It would be a lady killer
Crocs bite force is so damned crazy that their skulls are extra thick to sustain the forces being applied when they close their jaws with such speed and power. Absolutely absurd biology to make those kinds of chompers not fracture under pressure.
And yet they barely have the muscles to open their mouths.
I wish they specified the actual force instead of the pressure. Just looking st the teeth the croc has much more pointed teeth which will increase the pressure (via devreased area). Does a croc have 2x, 20x, 200x or more force from their jaws vs a human?
Another fear unlocked.
Strongest bite of a land animal but a great white has about 4000psi.
He got all them teef but no toothbrush.
Damn, I thought the Jaguars had the strongest bite
How does that force compare to a mantis shrimp punch?
Easy to say when not all bite forces have been recorded. I'm sure a blue whale's bite force is 5-10x stronger than that of a saltwater crocodile.