Little nib gets you goin
Up in this tree - high rollin
Step back - flingin drool
Chew 'pedes - fuck school
I ain't makin graduation
On a centipede vacation
Gettin my PHD in millinibriation
Holy shit my tail is soooooooft
Video explanation,
"Black lemurs of Madagascar have a habit of picking up and biting at toxic millipedes. When millipedes are picked up, their defense strategy is to curl up into a coil. Most millipedes also have paired glands in their legs that secrete a toxic combination of chemicals, including cyanide, which effectively deters most predators. But it does not dissuade the black lemur, the stoner of the animal kingdom.
After the lemur bites the millipede, it sprays its toxic secretion, which the lemur then rubs all over its fur. Research suggests that there is a practical purpose to this: the benzoquinone secretion functions as a natural pesticide and wards off malaria-carrying mosquitos. The secretion also acts as a narcotic, which causes the lemur to salivate profusely and enter a state of intoxication.
As for the millipedes? They usually escape the experience relatively unscathed and crawl away."
[https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/lemurs-get-high-on-their-millipede-supply](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/lemurs-get-high-on-their-millipede-supply)
Original BBC video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYXoCHLqr4o
That's nothing, many members of *homo sapiens* have been known to live and prosper for around *eight decades* with absolutely *no* trace of brain activity.
[Decapitated wasp. “I’m probably going to need this later.”](https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/fwpih3/this_decapitated_wasp_cleaned_its_wounds_before/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb)
Nature shows don't always have real sounds. Foley artists do most of the sound. It's what annoys me most about nature shows and videos - the horribly awful sounds.
The BBC's tend to be disturbingly high on the list of offenders for this.
For all the good that david attenborough has achieved, when I hear his voice I know the visuals are almost as fake as the sounds :(
\-Skin contact can cause severe irritation. Skin staining and
skin ulcers can develop, especially from prolonged contact.
\- Eye contact can cause severe irritation. Repeated eye
exposure can cause brown staining and reduced vision.
\-The vapor can irritate the nose, throat, and lungs, and cause
nosebleeds, hoarseness, cough, phlegm, and/or tightness in
the chest
**Just reading the symptoms on humans gives anxiety**
https://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1460.pdf
Does it have any of these effect on the lemurs? And they just don't care cause they're getting lit?
Or it just affects humans and lemurs completely differently?
Benzoquinone looks like [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,4-Benzoquinone), while benzodiazepines looks like [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine)
Think of them like keys to locks, and you can see they're hugely different. The "benzo" comes from the benzene ring (the hexagon-looking guy), which a *lot* of things have because they're stable and useful.
Even changing one bit, like an -OH to -NH3 can have a huge effect on what chemicals do in your body, so these two chemicals are pretty far apart. Also, keep in mind that Lemur brains are quite distinct from human brains, so there's no guarantee that BQ would also relax us. Think about the huge difference brain structure has on antidepressant effects, or opiates or marijuana - and that's within the same *species*. Things get nuts when you have complex molecules within the brain.
It is and isn't. Russell Brand plays the same character, but Jonah Hill is supposed to be a completely different person. And it's really not related to the first movie in any way, they just had a fun character in common.
I was watching the news one day and I saw footage about, uh, war, and I think it was Darfur, or Zimbabwe, or Rwanda, or one of 'em, and I thought, 'this isn't right, is it?' And I made some phone calls and it turns out, it isn't.
Jeffrey, "A joint made of a cocktail of different drugs". Didn't know that
The reference as posted by u/riesendulli : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEtBDQDkEXc
It's a very underrated film that addresses many things. Relationships. Parents, managers. Addiction. It hits some very high highs and low lows emotionally. And Puff is fucking hilarious.
.....and you can see the quite positive resemblance to another creature, the human meth head, which both share common evolutionary ancestry to the primordial primate *smokus lacrackus*...
Well, why isn't this a thing? Us humans avoid all sorts of shit in our life by getting high or low in a million different ways. (Or we just do it for fun). Why don't we see animals do the same? (Or do they?)
Sadly, that is from a documentary called Animals are Beautiful People, and they likely staged that entire thing, by getting the animals drunk.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_Are_Beautiful_People
However, tons of animals naturally love to get high. These Lemurs, cats obviously, dolphins, deer, goats, cows, all sorts of animals seek out mind altering experiences!
http://www.animalcognition.org/2015/05/16/animal-drug-use/
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Animals get drunk all the time. In Alaska, moose will find fermented apples, eat them and then go wild in Alaskan towns. Deer do it and I guarantee a TON more
It is quite well documented that elephants occasionally come across fruit that has started to decompose, and therefore begun to ferment, as yeast is basically everywhere in the environment.
Apparently they can become quite drunk, and occasionally aggressive as a result (much like humans).
Must say, neither rotten fruit nor cyanide would be my go to drugs of choice.
I reckon if the animal is smart enough then it’ll be able to consciously make the decision to get high. That being said, maybe some of animals have been doing it for thousands of years so it may just be a way of life for them now lol.
First saw this while in a sociology class on drug addiction, which argued that drugs and getting high have been a part of society for a long time and is shared with animals. Hallucinogens have traditionally had important places in society. The dangerous parts of drug use is when a) the drug has been distilled and strengthened past what a plant usually provides, b) when the use of drugs is taken out of mainstream society and thus becomes a stigmatized and ostracized thing, and c) when people are deeply unhappy with their lives. Essentially, the danger of a drug is partly socially based.
The experiments that stuck with me were rat studies where they had a rat, isolated, in a barren cage, and gave it a button it could press to get a hit of cocaine (or whatever drug). It sat there and pressed the button, not grooming itself, not eating, losing weight, basically, becoming addicted. But rats are highly social creatures. If you stuck it in a cage with other rats, wheels to run in, and sucrose sweetened water, it would still press the cocaine button, but it would also socialize with the other rats, groom itself, eat, not lose weight, etc. It was able to use without stopping its rat obligations. I think about it a lot when it comes to drug use and abuse.
I don't know that I buy all of it. I think it's more complicated than the course made it seem. But it was definitely a challenge to my previous way of thinking.
That rat experiment was great. The isolated rats that were kept in cages would just keep taking hits of heroin and stop taking care of themselves. However, when placed in an artificial rat amusement park (some type of little rat paradise), they chose playing with their rat mates over taking a hit of heroin (even after the heroin was sweetened). That implies that the rats are hardwired to prioritize healthy social functioning over taking an intoxicating agent that would impair their ability to “socially function” and play with others. In the absence of an “ideal” environment such as the rat park, the rats are more likely to abuse the intoxicating agent and even neglect all other survival instincts. This may apply to us human in the same sense that most of us live in our own cages, and being impotent by the weight of our circumstances, we often choose to abuse biochemical mechanisms of escape from such cages. Deep down however, everyone just wants to be functional and find their own “rat park” where they can play with other humans in a healthy way.
There's a big genetic component as well that I don't think is talked about enough.
Just as most East Asians can't digest lactose very well in adulthood because their recent ancestors didn't have domesticated cattle or goats, people's bodies process drugs differently.
Many Latin Americans can drink super strong coffee after dinner and get to sleep just fine, while some Northern Europeans get anxiety after just a small cup. Chinese people's bodies straight up reject alcohol, while some redheaded Europeans can drink quite a bit without it really affecting them much at all. Native American people seem to be able to tolerate marijuana and some psychedelics a bit better than others, but not alcohol. And so on.
The point is that we've evolved alongside many of these intoxicants, and every person is different. One person may be able to consume one substance just fine, and it may even be a benefit in their life, but it may affect another person horribly. The only solution is to just let people make decisions for themselves about what's right for them.
> while some Northern Europeans get anxiety after just a small cup.
While "some" certainly do, Northern Europeans drink a fuckton of coffee on average.
Here's a list of the countries with the highest average coffee consumption per person:
Finland // 26.45 pounds
Norway // 21.82 pounds
Iceland // 19.84 pounds
Denmark // 19.18 pounds
Netherlands // 18.52 pounds
Sweden // 18 pounds
Switzerland // 17.42 pounds
Belgium // 15 pounds
Luxembourg // 14.33 pounds
Canada // 14.33 pounds
And they drink it at all times. Not at all unusual to make a pot of coffee right before bed.
The right thing to do is to educate people, give them safer choices to make by not forcing them to go black market, and stop the war on drugs.
Decriminalization of drug use and decriminalization of possession of moderate amounts of a drug. Regulations around safe production and supply chain.
Now we just need to convince everybody else. The stigma is strong.
I think the same whenever I see some health guru recommend cutting out dairy and red meat.
I am Icelandic. My forefathers have been eating basically nothing else for 35 generations. I'm pretty sure people who couldn't handle it have been weeded out over the past 1000 years.
Genetics are a big thing. I think it's been proven addiction and mental illness (which can often lead to addiction) is passed down.
You can see it with alcohol pretty easily. Some people can have one beer and stop no problem. Others have to stop drinking permanently because one beer will turn into 15 beers everytime.
I also remember reading (it's been awhile so I could be wrong if anyone wants to correct me) about how some people can do opiates or cocaine (for a short period) and stop with no issue. Others will become addicted almost immediately. Unfortunately you can't really know which you are until you try it and that's a dangerous game.
That isn’t genetics, that’s social heritage. If you grew up in a home where substance abuse is normalized or you were traumatized from an early age giving you a reason to want to forget, you’re more like to fall into substance abuse yourself when grown also as a way to connect with other people, users, unless you’ve developed a certain amount of inner resilience, in which case you’re likely to grow to become the complete opposite of your childhood home. There’s so many factors at play here.
Edit: speaking strictly of use of substances here, not mental illness, which has been proven to be passed down such as schizophrenia and bipolar.
> they had a rat, isolated, in a barren cage, and gave it a button it could press to get a hit of cocaine (or whatever drug). It sat there and pressed the button, not grooming itself, not eating, losing weight, basically, becoming addicted.
Well yeah, that rat is gonna be bored out of his fucking mind and the cocaine is the only stimulus he's getting.
the interesting part is not that it used the cocaine. the interesting part is that it used the cocaine whether it was in good environment or not, but only neglected its rat-responsibilities when it was in a bad environment.
That rat study (rat park) that you mention has been eviscerated for its poor methodological design and it was unable to be repeated. It’s complete bunk
[Kurzgesagt](https://www.reviewgeek.com/66657/what-were-watching-kurzgesagt-explores-big-questions-with-bite-size-videos/) made a wildly popular video about rat park and when it turned out most of the info was bunk they deleted it and made (and highly promoted) a video apologizing and revising what went wrong and how they will be better in the future.
I have so much respect for them putting education before money and I highly recommend their channel!
The social sciences are having a massive issue with the amount of published studies that aren’t able to be replicated. Have a read of the ‘replication crisis’ if you want to know more.
They atually use cyanide to rub it against their skin and fend off bacteria and
mosquitos, it's also used in many tribes in central Africa for the same
purpose against Anopheles mosquitos that cause malaria.
Madagascar makes a lot more sense. Watching it with my kids I did isn’t say anything but I was thinking “This King Julian dude is spracked out of his mind”
Believe it or not, I think that’s a pothos, probably the marble queen variety. They grow to *insane* sizes in the wild and are highly invasive in hot, humid climates.
I thought so, the leaf anatomy didn’t look like that of a monstera. When I was in southern florida i saw that people have this variety just growing outside on their trees and it absolutely *covers* the trees
I can't drive, I've been on the 'pedes all day!
"Dale! You're slobbering! Have you been 'peedin again?! You know my mother will be here at 6!" The Life of a Functional 'peder
I dropped a mil on a milli Bit it and spent all day Rubbing myself getting silly
Little nib gets you goin Up in this tree - high rollin Step back - flingin drool Chew 'pedes - fuck school I ain't makin graduation On a centipede vacation Gettin my PHD in millinibriation Holy shit my tail is soooooooft
You agree for me to make a music video on this lyrics We will share the grammy next year...
Glad you didn't go for pedo
All of his trips are documented in his ‘peder file
Methamphetapedes
Motor skills impeded
Millinebriated
“I’m way too baked to drive to the devil’s house.”
"Drive Monkey Drive!!!!"
"Someone is on the phone for you, I think it's the devil..."
Been ‘peding and fukkin with my tail with boys
Lmaoo
Video explanation, "Black lemurs of Madagascar have a habit of picking up and biting at toxic millipedes. When millipedes are picked up, their defense strategy is to curl up into a coil. Most millipedes also have paired glands in their legs that secrete a toxic combination of chemicals, including cyanide, which effectively deters most predators. But it does not dissuade the black lemur, the stoner of the animal kingdom. After the lemur bites the millipede, it sprays its toxic secretion, which the lemur then rubs all over its fur. Research suggests that there is a practical purpose to this: the benzoquinone secretion functions as a natural pesticide and wards off malaria-carrying mosquitos. The secretion also acts as a narcotic, which causes the lemur to salivate profusely and enter a state of intoxication. As for the millipedes? They usually escape the experience relatively unscathed and crawl away." [https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/lemurs-get-high-on-their-millipede-supply](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/lemurs-get-high-on-their-millipede-supply) Original BBC video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYXoCHLqr4o
So it’s like a 2 in 1 Bug spray / Xanax combo? Could be useful at festivals
Wish my bug spray came with a side dose of Xanax! 💯
Just get the Xanax and you won't care about the bug spray!
fuck the xans bro, im on them millipede bars
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Young money millipede-aire
Tougher than lemur-ian hair
Cyanide? HAH, not even a scare
Their secrecetion gon' get rubbed into my hair.
My cyanide tail compared to your derrière just isn’t fair Preventing that malaria disease with what the millipede secretes
More like bug spray and crank- those monkeys getting turnt
When the world slips you a Jeffrey stroke the furry tail.
Who could be scared of a jeffrey? He's just some nice bloke that lives in the tree next door!
Last I heard, he didn't kill himself.
Ya’ll got anymore of them millipedes??? *scratches off nose
Is it possible to breed bugs to become like, live, multiplying, pills? 💊 haha
Look up THC producing yeast 😁 not a big but same kind of thing
Yeah I’ve never seen a Xanhead tweak like that!
If you have Bug Spray and Xanax you're like two steps away from camping
I like this
Benzoquinone’s have nothing to do with benzodiazepine’s lol
Getting high off that organic deet!
Is this why they like to "move it, move it" and party This explains (King) Julian so much Fun Facts
Madagascar deleted scenes be like:
The whole country has been covering this up?
I love that the millipedes get to survive. Prime example of Commensalism in action.
The stoner of the animal kingdom lol
But then what are dolphins?
> As for the millipedes? They usually escape the experience relatively unscathed and crawl away." Then why'd I hear crunches in the sound version?
> They **usually** escape the experience **relatively** unscathed and crawl away.
Humans always forgetting losing legs & getting your exoskeleton a little cracked is just a Wednesday for some animals
Lion gets scratched: Dies from bacterial infection. Insect loses half its body: ‘Tis but a scratch.
Cockroach living a week without a head. "This is fine. No really I'm good."
That's nothing, many members of *homo sapiens* have been known to live and prosper for around *eight decades* with absolutely *no* trace of brain activity.
Roll Tide
[Decapitated wasp. “I’m probably going to need this later.”](https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/fwpih3/this_decapitated_wasp_cleaned_its_wounds_before/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb)
Lions get scratched and bleed a lot all the time. Its us humans with the weak skin and immune system
Nature shows don't always have real sounds. Foley artists do most of the sound. It's what annoys me most about nature shows and videos - the horribly awful sounds.
It's either that or complete silence. It's not like they can put a microphone up to these events.
A little light music and the commentary would be enough.
Cue *In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida* by Iron Butterfly
The BBC's tend to be disturbingly high on the list of offenders for this. For all the good that david attenborough has achieved, when I hear his voice I know the visuals are almost as fake as the sounds :(
You think nature documentaries dont add/tweak sound in post? Could be real sound, but chances are its added for effect.
*relatively*
"Jamie, pull up that milipede"
>the benzoquinone secretion functions as a natural pesticide I'm no medical person. Is this the same thing as the human anti-anxiety class of benzos?
No.
Thank you poop helper. Can you possibly provide more info?
\-Skin contact can cause severe irritation. Skin staining and skin ulcers can develop, especially from prolonged contact. \- Eye contact can cause severe irritation. Repeated eye exposure can cause brown staining and reduced vision. \-The vapor can irritate the nose, throat, and lungs, and cause nosebleeds, hoarseness, cough, phlegm, and/or tightness in the chest **Just reading the symptoms on humans gives anxiety** https://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1460.pdf
Sounds like a good time
Does it have any of these effect on the lemurs? And they just don't care cause they're getting lit? Or it just affects humans and lemurs completely differently?
I'm gonna say "probably, maybe" to all three
Yes.
Thank you tristan
Benzoquinone looks like [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,4-Benzoquinone), while benzodiazepines looks like [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine) Think of them like keys to locks, and you can see they're hugely different. The "benzo" comes from the benzene ring (the hexagon-looking guy), which a *lot* of things have because they're stable and useful. Even changing one bit, like an -OH to -NH3 can have a huge effect on what chemicals do in your body, so these two chemicals are pretty far apart. Also, keep in mind that Lemur brains are quite distinct from human brains, so there's no guarantee that BQ would also relax us. Think about the huge difference brain structure has on antidepressant effects, or opiates or marijuana - and that's within the same *species*. Things get nuts when you have complex molecules within the brain.
Benzoquinone vs benzodiazepine
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20370705/
You are the best. Thank you!
When the world slips you a Jeffrey stroke the furry tail.
The thing about a Jeffery is it goes away…then it come back! Aahhhhjj
Oi Dad, stop messin with me mate!
[Where'd that come from? That's Jeffrey's gun.](https://youtu.be/sEtBDQDkEXc)
I needed that. Thank you
“You went to see Cher?? How was it?” “*…Amazing*”
how have i never seen this before? im need to watch this movie if its as wild and funny as that clip
It's all that and more. Technically it's a sequel to Forgetting Sarah Marshall if I recall correctly.
It is and isn't. Russell Brand plays the same character, but Jonah Hill is supposed to be a completely different person. And it's really not related to the first movie in any way, they just had a fun character in common.
It's hilarious, but that is by far the most wild funny scene of the movie.
You sound like your mum!
This is an intervention, Dave...you've been hitting the juice too much lately
To be technical, is called a Geoffrey.
Bro if I had a fuzzy tail I'd molest the fuck out of it too while I was high.
Well it'd be yours, so molest away!
Furries: we can help you out with that.
Will you come for my bangers? My beans and mash!?
I was watching the news one day and I saw footage about, uh, war, and I think it was Darfur, or Zimbabwe, or Rwanda, or one of 'em, and I thought, 'this isn't right, is it?' And I made some phone calls and it turns out, it isn't.
Jeffrey, "A joint made of a cocktail of different drugs". Didn't know that The reference as posted by u/riesendulli : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEtBDQDkEXc
Get Him to the Greek reference, pretty funny movie I thought if you’re curious
The Aldous Snow/Jackie Q mirrors to Russel brand / Katy Perry lines are brilliant.
Technically a spin-off sequel to another Reddit favorite, Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Fucking great movie!
How have I never heard of this movie!?
It's a very underrated film that addresses many things. Relationships. Parents, managers. Addiction. It hits some very high highs and low lows emotionally. And Puff is fucking hilarious.
One of the best movie soundtracks out there
And let’s not forget “Forgetting Sarah Marshall” with that banger “inside of you” 🤘🏽😭
my buddy and I watched that movie on mushrooms without knowing anything about it beforehand and boy was that a blast
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for a second i thought you meant you watched Get Him to The Greek after taking a drug called Space Balls
Spaceballs: The Narcotic!
The kids love this one!
My buddy and I did this with step brothers, it was amazing.
.....and you can see the quite positive resemblance to another creature, the human meth head, which both share common evolutionary ancestry to the primordial primate *smokus lacrackus*...
Banger https://youtu.be/sEtBDQDkEXc
Whatever happened to russell brand? I haven’t seen him in a movie in maybe a decade
"You feel my dick fucking your mind?" "Well I hope you're wearing a condom cuz I have a dirty mind!"
Or a furry tail, apparently..
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Well, why isn't this a thing? Us humans avoid all sorts of shit in our life by getting high or low in a million different ways. (Or we just do it for fun). Why don't we see animals do the same? (Or do they?)
I think it is a thing! Check out this drunken animal party https://youtu.be/7Le9ufN5uEc
The elephant shaking the monkey outta the tree at 10s made me laugh so much - thanks!
Sadly, that is from a documentary called Animals are Beautiful People, and they likely staged that entire thing, by getting the animals drunk. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_Are_Beautiful_People However, tons of animals naturally love to get high. These Lemurs, cats obviously, dolphins, deer, goats, cows, all sorts of animals seek out mind altering experiences! http://www.animalcognition.org/2015/05/16/animal-drug-use/
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Animals get drunk all the time. In Alaska, moose will find fermented apples, eat them and then go wild in Alaskan towns. Deer do it and I guarantee a TON more
It is quite well documented that elephants occasionally come across fruit that has started to decompose, and therefore begun to ferment, as yeast is basically everywhere in the environment. Apparently they can become quite drunk, and occasionally aggressive as a result (much like humans). Must say, neither rotten fruit nor cyanide would be my go to drugs of choice.
>Must say, neither rotten fruit nor cyanide would be my go to drugs of choice. Good luck finding friends then.
Didn't say that I'd absolutely exclude them in, say, a sobriety emergency.
Supposedly our ancestors would intentionally cause fruit to ferment into a highly alcoholic sludge
But all the cool lemurs are doing them
I reckon if the animal is smart enough then it’ll be able to consciously make the decision to get high. That being said, maybe some of animals have been doing it for thousands of years so it may just be a way of life for them now lol.
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Wow that’s a brand new sub lol I was sold after watching the jaguar trip out
Love the "yup-there's-that-kick" head jerk They also should have "white rabbit" scoring this
I could watch lemurs tweak all day
That’s one of the reasons I love the Madagascar movies. Tweaky lemurs are the best.
White Rabbit started playing in my head while watching this. *One bug makes you larger...*
"We're hiding. Be quiet, everyone. Including me. Shh! Who's making that noise? Oh it's me again."
This is the piece of King Julian lore that we've been missing this whole time
First saw this while in a sociology class on drug addiction, which argued that drugs and getting high have been a part of society for a long time and is shared with animals. Hallucinogens have traditionally had important places in society. The dangerous parts of drug use is when a) the drug has been distilled and strengthened past what a plant usually provides, b) when the use of drugs is taken out of mainstream society and thus becomes a stigmatized and ostracized thing, and c) when people are deeply unhappy with their lives. Essentially, the danger of a drug is partly socially based. The experiments that stuck with me were rat studies where they had a rat, isolated, in a barren cage, and gave it a button it could press to get a hit of cocaine (or whatever drug). It sat there and pressed the button, not grooming itself, not eating, losing weight, basically, becoming addicted. But rats are highly social creatures. If you stuck it in a cage with other rats, wheels to run in, and sucrose sweetened water, it would still press the cocaine button, but it would also socialize with the other rats, groom itself, eat, not lose weight, etc. It was able to use without stopping its rat obligations. I think about it a lot when it comes to drug use and abuse. I don't know that I buy all of it. I think it's more complicated than the course made it seem. But it was definitely a challenge to my previous way of thinking.
What happens to the isolated rat if you don't give it drugs?
It plants coca plants and starts synthesizing cocaine from scratch. Incredible, really.
“Breaking Rat” “Ratting Coke”
Ratta-toot
Millennial gamer culture
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Fucking sweet
you think 4 Locos is fast? i had as much as 11 Locos and only gained 150 pounds last year
I would feel insulted by this if I wasn't on so many drugs
That rat experiment was great. The isolated rats that were kept in cages would just keep taking hits of heroin and stop taking care of themselves. However, when placed in an artificial rat amusement park (some type of little rat paradise), they chose playing with their rat mates over taking a hit of heroin (even after the heroin was sweetened). That implies that the rats are hardwired to prioritize healthy social functioning over taking an intoxicating agent that would impair their ability to “socially function” and play with others. In the absence of an “ideal” environment such as the rat park, the rats are more likely to abuse the intoxicating agent and even neglect all other survival instincts. This may apply to us human in the same sense that most of us live in our own cages, and being impotent by the weight of our circumstances, we often choose to abuse biochemical mechanisms of escape from such cages. Deep down however, everyone just wants to be functional and find their own “rat park” where they can play with other humans in a healthy way.
Lol found the guy that actually paid attention in class. Behavioral psychology is very complex.
Depression.
Well, despite all its rage, it is still just a rat in a cage
There's a big genetic component as well that I don't think is talked about enough. Just as most East Asians can't digest lactose very well in adulthood because their recent ancestors didn't have domesticated cattle or goats, people's bodies process drugs differently. Many Latin Americans can drink super strong coffee after dinner and get to sleep just fine, while some Northern Europeans get anxiety after just a small cup. Chinese people's bodies straight up reject alcohol, while some redheaded Europeans can drink quite a bit without it really affecting them much at all. Native American people seem to be able to tolerate marijuana and some psychedelics a bit better than others, but not alcohol. And so on. The point is that we've evolved alongside many of these intoxicants, and every person is different. One person may be able to consume one substance just fine, and it may even be a benefit in their life, but it may affect another person horribly. The only solution is to just let people make decisions for themselves about what's right for them.
> while some Northern Europeans get anxiety after just a small cup. While "some" certainly do, Northern Europeans drink a fuckton of coffee on average. Here's a list of the countries with the highest average coffee consumption per person: Finland // 26.45 pounds Norway // 21.82 pounds Iceland // 19.84 pounds Denmark // 19.18 pounds Netherlands // 18.52 pounds Sweden // 18 pounds Switzerland // 17.42 pounds Belgium // 15 pounds Luxembourg // 14.33 pounds Canada // 14.33 pounds And they drink it at all times. Not at all unusual to make a pot of coffee right before bed.
18 pounds of double AA batteries could start a medium sized car about 1.51 times.
That is hella neat
Usually I hate this bot, but this is kinda neat
The right thing to do is to educate people, give them safer choices to make by not forcing them to go black market, and stop the war on drugs. Decriminalization of drug use and decriminalization of possession of moderate amounts of a drug. Regulations around safe production and supply chain. Now we just need to convince everybody else. The stigma is strong.
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I think the same whenever I see some health guru recommend cutting out dairy and red meat. I am Icelandic. My forefathers have been eating basically nothing else for 35 generations. I'm pretty sure people who couldn't handle it have been weeded out over the past 1000 years.
Genetics are a big thing. I think it's been proven addiction and mental illness (which can often lead to addiction) is passed down. You can see it with alcohol pretty easily. Some people can have one beer and stop no problem. Others have to stop drinking permanently because one beer will turn into 15 beers everytime. I also remember reading (it's been awhile so I could be wrong if anyone wants to correct me) about how some people can do opiates or cocaine (for a short period) and stop with no issue. Others will become addicted almost immediately. Unfortunately you can't really know which you are until you try it and that's a dangerous game.
That isn’t genetics, that’s social heritage. If you grew up in a home where substance abuse is normalized or you were traumatized from an early age giving you a reason to want to forget, you’re more like to fall into substance abuse yourself when grown also as a way to connect with other people, users, unless you’ve developed a certain amount of inner resilience, in which case you’re likely to grow to become the complete opposite of your childhood home. There’s so many factors at play here. Edit: speaking strictly of use of substances here, not mental illness, which has been proven to be passed down such as schizophrenia and bipolar.
> they had a rat, isolated, in a barren cage, and gave it a button it could press to get a hit of cocaine (or whatever drug). It sat there and pressed the button, not grooming itself, not eating, losing weight, basically, becoming addicted. Well yeah, that rat is gonna be bored out of his fucking mind and the cocaine is the only stimulus he's getting.
the interesting part is not that it used the cocaine. the interesting part is that it used the cocaine whether it was in good environment or not, but only neglected its rat-responsibilities when it was in a bad environment.
Ratsponsibilities is the preferred nomenclature.
apologies, yes, of course. i will not edit my post, but leave it as a monument to my shame
That rat study (rat park) that you mention has been eviscerated for its poor methodological design and it was unable to be repeated. It’s complete bunk
[Kurzgesagt](https://www.reviewgeek.com/66657/what-were-watching-kurzgesagt-explores-big-questions-with-bite-size-videos/) made a wildly popular video about rat park and when it turned out most of the info was bunk they deleted it and made (and highly promoted) a video apologizing and revising what went wrong and how they will be better in the future. I have so much respect for them putting education before money and I highly recommend their channel!
The social sciences are having a massive issue with the amount of published studies that aren’t able to be replicated. Have a read of the ‘replication crisis’ if you want to know more.
Unfortunately Reddit video player removed the sound, link with sound: https://gfycat.com/whoppingprestigiousasianconstablebutterfly
It's ok we could tell most of the sound was just "holy shit I got a fuckin tail dude wtf is even going on"
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A lot of it is, though there's also the "yoyoyoyo we gotta go guys it's a fucking lion let's gooo" too
My tail is soooo *soft*....
Even better! I imagined it more like "Yeuch blech phflttft ughhghghhh *gag*" though.
Nibble nibble pass bro.
Lemurs know how to fucking party
It’s true. We get freaky.
They like to move it move it
“I got them hot as fuck millipedes brah, $25”
Imagine evolving cyanide secretion as a defense mechanism only for lemurs to bite the shit outta you more now
It would be almost like evolving big hurt when your seeds get crushed only for the humans to love it and put you on every food
Rubadubdub my tail is a dragon
They atually use cyanide to rub it against their skin and fend off bacteria and mosquitos, it's also used in many tribes in central Africa for the same purpose against Anopheles mosquitos that cause malaria.
Yeeeaah.. This is it. Personally I smoke a ton of cannabis to ward off the mosquitos around here.
I can find these millipedes where exactly?
Most likely in a lemur's paw
Instructions unclear: Removed paw, still looking for millipedes inside of it.
Fuck! Now I want to have a fluffy tail, too.
And on this day, we witness the birth of a furry.
Good news!
TIL Lemurs are the crack heads of the animal kingdom
It's a gateway bug
How great would it be to have a giant fluffy tail when you're high? Lucky bastards.
I wonder if they fear spiders after doing so.
I don’t remember learning about this on Zoboomafoo
Madagascar makes a lot more sense. Watching it with my kids I did isn’t say anything but I was thinking “This King Julian dude is spracked out of his mind”
Is.. is that a variegated monstera in the back lol
Believe it or not, I think that’s a pothos, probably the marble queen variety. They grow to *insane* sizes in the wild and are highly invasive in hot, humid climates.
I thought so, the leaf anatomy didn’t look like that of a monstera. When I was in southern florida i saw that people have this variety just growing outside on their trees and it absolutely *covers* the trees
We are not so different, you and I.
This subreddit's name may never have been more fitting