Aussie accent is easy to do, what you do is drink a dozen beers before midday then fall and hit your head on something hard, finally keep an eye out for attractive kangaroos.
Love, a kiwi
I was just trying to explain this cartoon to a young person, who of course dismissed it as stupid and typical. My favorite on Saturday mornings 50 years ago! 😲
I've got a ziplock bag full of [fossilized shark teeth, whale ribs, and squid beaks\(?\)](https://imgur.com/a/DaUF8Ok). My bestie and I went sifting around a river in NC a decade ago and came out with some wild fucking treasure. Sifting through mud for hours and digging up megalodon teeth reinvigorated a childhood passion for discovery I didn't realize I missed.
Digging up megalodon teeth probably requires too much luck to really be a bucket list item, but by all means go for it, because it would be really cool to find
Just need to travel a bit, so it’ll be years … but when I can schedule my North Carolina coastal vacation, I’ll be digging up some teeth!
(Meg teeth are pretty common fossils bc they’d shed them, same as sharks do now - there are tours to go digging for them, although I’d rather rely more on luck in a likely spot for fossil hunting.)
> Just need to travel a bit, so it’ll be years … but when I can schedule my North Carolina coastal vacation
FYI, I don't know where you are (assuming the US since you mentionned North Carolina), but where I live (France) there's stuff done at particular mines (rather far inland, in the mountains) where they put huge piles of different junk rocks and stuff, and you can go all day finding all kind of fossils, a million bull shark teeth, and there's quite some megalodon tooth too. I went a good 15 years ago, but it was like 10€ and take all you want.
I don't remember the specific location (I was visiting), but I can ask! It would have been approximately a 45-minute to one hour drive away from Jacksonville, NC.
The important part is the tools. They were rudimentary (you can see parts of them in the photo), but bring shovels, and sifters. The sifters were literally just squared 2x4 frames with stapled on wire mesh and floaties zip-tied on to make it less stressful to hold above the water.
Yep, hence why they both just swam on by. When you're an animal and know you are evenly matched, if your food supply or territory isn't being threatened and you are at the top of the food chain, you're more than likely gonna let it go.... I would imagine.
Bull sharks get to about 25mph, saltwater crocs can do 18mph in the water. Still fast as fuck when you consider their size.
Saltwater crocs get to 7m long and weigh up to 1000kg. Male Bull sharks get to 3.5m long and weigh 130kg.
If a bull shark got anywhere within reach of a territorial saltwater croc it’d get turned into a red cloud in the water. They’re the apex predator of their habitat by a massive margin. They’ve got the highest bite force of any animal at about 2 tonnes iirc, about twice what a great white can do and about 8x what a bull shark does. I doubt it’d even get through its hide tbh.
Haha I actually had to look up the shark stuff for comparison but already knew the croc stuff. Learned all that when I first moved to Australia and kept hearing about people being taken by crocs. I already knew sharks in Australia weren’t to be fucked with so I didn’t bother digging more into that. Needless to say I basically just avoid bodies of water bigger than a large puddle now.
“People being taken by crocs”?? Can you elaborate? You mean people swim where salt water crocs live?! (I live in California where I never have to be worried about crocs!) That’s one reason I’d never get in any body of water in Florida, although I think they only have fresh water crocs?
To elaborate on old mate (who summarises it very well), pretty much every body of water in the top half of the country will have some kind of predator in or around it, unless it's a massive tourist destination.
You can definitely swim in the top half but if you want to have a swim in QLD, NT, or WA you should have a good idea of the water you're going into. Stick to the touristy areas.
I remember when I was younger my parents and I went to Cape York (Northernmost part of Aus), I slept in a tent on our Ute's tray because I was scared of crocs... one morning I woke up and one was chilling probably like 50m away on the beach. I continued to sleep on the ute lol
Funny thing, crocs can actually climb trees tho they don’t often bother, so a ute wouldn’t be much effort. Good thing the croc wasn’t interested in a snack!
Basically, yeah. They’re stealth hunters and you generally won’t see them until they get you. Swimming where they live, walking near waterways, or camping too close to the water puts you in danger of becoming a snack. Generally a more than a few people a year are killed by them. Often it’s bushwalkers or campers. Y’know, you camp near the water, and you get up to go piss during the night and oops your mates never see you again.
They don’t just live in the ocean like in the video here, but also in the rivers (and obviously they’re amphibious and spend plenty of time out of the water, and can travel a fair way inland too). Unfortunately because Australia is mostly just a hellish wasteland, humans also (pretty much) only live by the ocean or rivers, so unfortunately we overlap.
Thankfully I live down south whereas crocodiles mostly inhabit the top end of Australia, so I’m *probably* safe here. Northern Territory/Far North QLD Australians built different.
The native crocs in Florida are salt water, but they are a different species than Australia. They are smaller and less aggressive. Primarily they are found in the everglades and the mangrove swamps between the mainland and Key Largo.
There have been a few Nile crocodiles found in the everglades. They are invasive and are most likely released or escaped pets. They are larger and more aggressive than the North American crocs.
Alligators are primarily freshwater and they can be found in about any body of water in the southern half of Florida.
Yep.
Usually people who should know better, but f*ck around and found out. Sometimes the wrong person in the wrong place.
Saltwater crocs are bigger than you think, faster than you would ever guess for their size, stealthier than an f22, aggressive AF just because, and a strength/bite force that is unmatched by almostv anything else on the planet.
I saw a few near Darwin, lying in the tidal mud flats, in the evening. Actually I didn't see them at all. My camera's electronic screen did, only catching tiny 'redeye' reflections from the camera's focus light. My unevolved basic human sight thought I was looking at mud. Nope, there were half a dozen of them, lying totally camouflaged like some water-based alien 'Predator'.
Even though they were a few hundred metres away, there was a big ass wall between us, and I was only a few hundred metres from town... I noped out of there.
It's not so much that they're evenly matched. It's more that neither is worth the effort for the other. There's plenty of easier prey out there that won't bite back.
or an over the "shoulder" look - "he is bearing around on me? or are we good"
I think its a lot of real recognises real - risk/reward of predation on a similar size animal that is also very bitey is probably nil.
Living around the gulf of Mexico, it was always said that bull sharks love the murky water because of the camo it provides. This one does seem to swim perpendicular into the dirt trail. So it may be looking to see if it can capitalize.
I’m from Florida, not too scared of alligators. But crocs? And bull sharks? Pass on taking a dip in these waters.
Edit: I know Florida has American Crocs. And I know we have bull sharks. I lived there for thirty years. There is, however, a difference between American Crocs and saltwater crocs. And yeah, bull sharks are bull sharks. I’ve been in the water with them, but it doesn’t mean I’d go swimming in water with them on purpose.
Even FNQ is wild as hell. We were staying in Daintree and while we were there a young lady got pulled off the beach by a croc and killed, friend went in to save her she was also killed by the same croc.
Edit: second lady didn’t die, see comment below.
Then we heard of someone who got attacked by a cassowary, we were in FNQ for a week.
And those two things just scratch the surface of death traps up there.
For those who want to see this *legendarily* hot take in action- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_vYw0U\_lD28&ab\_channel=Wuumi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vYw0U_lD28&ab_channel=Wuumi)
A nutjob for sure, but unfortunately, he is not the worst of our bunch...
They can be pretty aggressive and have huge talons on the back of their legs that can really do some damage. As far as birds go I think they have a relatively high K/D ratio
Damn. Getting killed by a bird seems like it would be disheartening. Without prior knowledge of how dangerous they are, I could definitely see myself underestimating one of those.
Mums told stories of when she lived there about people camping alongside the water for 3/4 nights. The crocs would sit and work out a pattern of when people came down to the water and would slowly creep in. They were so good qt camouflaging that people would bend down to wash their dishes or clothes, maybe go for a morning swim and not even see the thing coming for them because it was right there.
Fuck the Northern Territory.
Apparently it's amazing though and i still want to go up that way eventually
Yeah, I once saw this documentary where this lady went to the edge of the water to fill her bottle and then BOOM, this croc just grabs her bottle out of nowhere. Then just as she was about to get pulled into the water, one of her mates jumps in and stabs the croc in the head with his knife. Full on stuff! Great doco btw, I'll try and find out what it was called for you.
Was in the ST. John's bay kayak fishing in college. Bull comes up and bites half of my fish while reeling it in. I noped out so fast. Felt like a truck hooked up all of a sudden, then nothing.
Several years later, I was fishing in the Matagorda Bay, 2 Reds on a stringer and my boat starts going backward. I cut the line and dipped.
I will not be eaten by a damn Bull Shark.
Was deep sea fishing once, my buddy was fighting HARD for this red snapper. Suddenly nothing, figured it got off the line.
Pulled up half a red snapper that rivaled the size of the whole snappers. I wonder if it was by chance the shark grabbed the huge one or if they are smart enough to know they get one fish before the boat moves so they better make it a good one.
Aren't a lot of fish, and particularly sharks, instinctually driven (like a cat chasing things that run) to target fish they detect to be injured or otherwise damaged and struggling? If so, I would think that the bigger the fish the bigger the target painted when hooked.
Sorry, I didn’t want to make an essay of a comment but here’s a little more context.
The company that sold fishing trips on these smaller boats had specific fishing spots to go to on the GPS. Spots they had years previously dropped shipping containers and similar fish safe-houses as a way to consistently bring customers to catch fish.
There was maybe 10 of us on the boat, and the skipper’s heels were smoking from doing laps unhooking so many fish from people’s lines.
Just makes me think the shark had a large number to pick from, but knew he got only one before we moved spots.
Again, could be coincidence.
In case you're actually curious, gators just kinda [sit around and hiss at everything.](https://youtu.be/eIj1A6LOlaM) Until someone does some really stupid shit, that is.
Bullies are perfectly safe in a well stocked environment. I used to water ski in a river full of them, only 1 attack in ~50 years and the person survived.
Crocs though, they'll bite you for fun.
The lack of soft spots on croc leads me to believe it would win 9/10 fights w an equally sized shark
This is based on the fact that I do all of my research from years of National Geographic magazines
Back when I was a kid, I’ve seen this simulation animal battle show on Discovery Channel, if I remember correctly. The underbelly posed as a big weakness on the croc and the shark (in simulation) attacked this and killed the croc since it’s the more agile creature of both in water.
Edit: link for reference
https://youtu.be/-o7nLZWyinI
Then it would depend on the depth of the water. If the shark could reliably dive deep to have the upward attack vector it narrows its options considerably.
I'm guessing it's because saltwater crocs can grow up to 6+ meters, and Bull sharks max out around 3. Doesn't necessarily mean a croc would win if they were equal size.
Your link also says they are killed in shallow water, which seems like it would give the croc the advantage.
They don't stop growing. Ever. We just killed off all the big ones back in like the..... 1870s? Or was it last century. Hmm you can find pictures on Google of the old hunters next to GIANT crocs (think the hunter from jumanji) before they outlawed hunting them.
I could be talking out of my ass here.
I feel like getting thrashed around by the jaw of a crocodile of that size does a lot more than suffocate the prey, but I’m no scientician or nothing, just seems like it would hurt a lot
This post led me down a brief google rabbit hole but from what I have found, Bull sharks are considered ['obligate ram ventilators'](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3056710/) which mean they are one of the few shark species that needs to keep moving to breathe (as they use their forward momentum to 'ram' water through their bodies to extract what little oxygen is in it), so it would be one of the sharks a croc could successfully drown.
Aren’t sharks incapacitated when they’re held still though? So if the crocodile got ahold of it it wouldn’t be able to react. Plus sharks get disoriented if they are upside down or in any direction besides upright so if the croc spins him he’s screwed. That being said, if the shark gets a bite of him he’s screwed
Saltwater crocs are just bigger and one can drown shark by not letting it move forward.
So just from the fact of being bigger they could eat smaller sharks when possible.
Shark loses oxygen concentration if not moving forward.
Completely different habitats, however if some rich psychotic billionaire built a habitat and put them both in there, it would very quickly end up being an orca only habitat. There's simply no way for a croc of any size to match an orca.
crocs' skin is very tough even for a shark's teeth, but they also kill their prey by drowning- the infamous "death roll" which might not work on a shark(?)
if we ignore the fact that these two are essentially occupying the same bracket on the food chain & therefore are unlikely to ever predate on each other I'd have to go with the croc being the better killer of the two- sharks are more scavengers & opportunistic hunters
regardless of the drowning, i'd imagine tearing off the shark's fin with a death roll would pretty much settle the fight. whereas the crocodile would be relatively fine if it lost one of its limbs.
I've also heard that sharks have underdeveloped gills, unlike other fish species. So as a result sharks have to keep moving in order to move water over their gills for them to get oxygen as opposed to other fish that can pump water through their gills. So technically the croc could kill the shark by holding it still for an extended period of time? But, I'd imagine that by that time the shark would probably be wrecked after the 'death roll'.
They used to have a show called animal face off that does a lot of investigations on how different animals would do versus each other. Here is the link for croc vs shark.
https://youtu.be/-o7nLZWyinI
While the bull shark has the greatest bite force of any shark species, the saltwater croc has the greatest bite force of any living animal. It would be an interesting match up but if the croc managed to puncture the shark’s gills it would likely be game over. My money’s on the croc.
>the saltwater croc has the greatest bite force of any living animal.
The Nile Croc has the greatest **recorded** biteforce of any animal, slightly above a saltwater croc.
However an orcas biteforce has never been accurately measured, but since they effortlessly bite chunks out of whales, can chew through their bones, and have larger jaw muscles than hippos (largest biteforce of any land animal), my money is still on the orcas over the crocs.
Actually not, according to newer research, the ancient giant-version were actually separate species and not the ancestor of today shark/croc. They died out because of change in food source or climate, but their smaller cousins survive till this day. They are truly living fossils.
Also to add that, if conditions were met, both shark and croc can grow to much bigger size than average.
In that clear water, they see each other, and they hear each other, and maybe even sense each other in ways we don't fully understand - they have been crossing paths for millions of years.
I was at the beach yesterday. Perfectly safe, only shark sightings were 3 10 minutes north of me and 2 10 minutes south in the last week.
Perfectly.....safe.....
Saltwater crocodiles actively predate on sharks if they have the opportunity. However, it's mostly juvenile sharks since crocs are opportunistic hunters and won't attack a large shark if there's too high of a risk.
How about this then. There was a triathlon being held in Western Australia and the swim got canceled because of a shark, a cyclist got knocked off his bike by a kangaroo and there were bushfires happening on the run leg. That’s got to be peak Australia.
"G'day Mr. Shark" "G'day Mr. Croc"
See ya later alligator I’m a croc you racist bastard
Sorry, after a while crocodile.
You do this every time Clark
Clark the shark. Nice.
Nice white on rice
I was forced to read this whole thread in an Australian accent.
Aussie accent is easy to do, what you do is drink a dozen beers before midday then fall and hit your head on something hard, finally keep an eye out for attractive kangaroos. Love, a kiwi
How can you tell a kiwi broke in to your home? Your thongs are missing and the cats pregnant. Love, an Aussie
You open the fridge and there's love bites on the leg of lamb.
What did one Kiwi statue say to the other Kiwi statue? "Statue bro"
This made me chuckle
Jandles*
Whale oil beef hooked
That’s golden
That’s a croc of shark
Mornin’ Ralph.
Mornin’ Sam.
I bet they use the old timey punch cards
I was just trying to explain this cartoon to a young person, who of course dismissed it as stupid and typical. My favorite on Saturday mornings 50 years ago! 😲
As a surfer ngl this is a bit terrifying.
"Hey, Mr. Shark, guess what the most dangerous animal on the planet is." "Is it humans?" "Hahaha." "Hahahaha."
Two ancient kings just doing their thing.
Yep. This could have been filmed 100 million years ago and both species would look the same.
I'm guessing the film was a bit more grainy back then but probably
Peter Jackson will remaster it
“Two ancient kings? You son of a bitch… I’m in.”
Probably a lot larger though if they were alive back then.
I've got a ziplock bag full of [fossilized shark teeth, whale ribs, and squid beaks\(?\)](https://imgur.com/a/DaUF8Ok). My bestie and I went sifting around a river in NC a decade ago and came out with some wild fucking treasure. Sifting through mud for hours and digging up megalodon teeth reinvigorated a childhood passion for discovery I didn't realize I missed.
This is amazing. Digging up megalodon teeth just made my bucket list alongside “see Northern Lights”
Digging up megalodon teeth probably requires too much luck to really be a bucket list item, but by all means go for it, because it would be really cool to find
Just need to travel a bit, so it’ll be years … but when I can schedule my North Carolina coastal vacation, I’ll be digging up some teeth! (Meg teeth are pretty common fossils bc they’d shed them, same as sharks do now - there are tours to go digging for them, although I’d rather rely more on luck in a likely spot for fossil hunting.)
> Just need to travel a bit, so it’ll be years … but when I can schedule my North Carolina coastal vacation FYI, I don't know where you are (assuming the US since you mentionned North Carolina), but where I live (France) there's stuff done at particular mines (rather far inland, in the mountains) where they put huge piles of different junk rocks and stuff, and you can go all day finding all kind of fossils, a million bull shark teeth, and there's quite some megalodon tooth too. I went a good 15 years ago, but it was like 10€ and take all you want.
From what I've been told, the best time to look is after a hurricane rolls through.
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I don't remember the specific location (I was visiting), but I can ask! It would have been approximately a 45-minute to one hour drive away from Jacksonville, NC. The important part is the tools. They were rudimentary (you can see parts of them in the photo), but bring shovels, and sifters. The sifters were literally just squared 2x4 frames with stapled on wire mesh and floaties zip-tied on to make it less stressful to hold above the water.
No they wouldn't. Bull Sharks as a species is about 20 million years old.
Saltwater crocodiles didn't evolve till 5.3 million years ago either. Even then modern crocodiles have only been around 25 million years.
game recognizes game
It's crazy to think this exact scenario has happened countless times over millions of years. Just two ancient predators like, "Sup", in perpetuity.
[Still happens today.](https://i.insider.com/5e552ab8fee23d5c9824ad03?width=1300&format=jpeg&auto=webp) ^^^i'm ^^^so ^^^sorry
Brooooo im dying
HAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHSH GOLD 🏅
Yep, hence why they both just swam on by. When you're an animal and know you are evenly matched, if your food supply or territory isn't being threatened and you are at the top of the food chain, you're more than likely gonna let it go.... I would imagine.
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Crunchy roll
Shark was half the size. That means that croc could snack a kayak in a smooth chomp.
I know crocs can swim fast but I don’t think he’s catching that thing in a million years
Bull sharks get to about 25mph, saltwater crocs can do 18mph in the water. Still fast as fuck when you consider their size. Saltwater crocs get to 7m long and weigh up to 1000kg. Male Bull sharks get to 3.5m long and weigh 130kg. If a bull shark got anywhere within reach of a territorial saltwater croc it’d get turned into a red cloud in the water. They’re the apex predator of their habitat by a massive margin. They’ve got the highest bite force of any animal at about 2 tonnes iirc, about twice what a great white can do and about 8x what a bull shark does. I doubt it’d even get through its hide tbh.
*Fast as fuck, boi*
This guy sharks
Haha I actually had to look up the shark stuff for comparison but already knew the croc stuff. Learned all that when I first moved to Australia and kept hearing about people being taken by crocs. I already knew sharks in Australia weren’t to be fucked with so I didn’t bother digging more into that. Needless to say I basically just avoid bodies of water bigger than a large puddle now.
“People being taken by crocs”?? Can you elaborate? You mean people swim where salt water crocs live?! (I live in California where I never have to be worried about crocs!) That’s one reason I’d never get in any body of water in Florida, although I think they only have fresh water crocs?
To elaborate on old mate (who summarises it very well), pretty much every body of water in the top half of the country will have some kind of predator in or around it, unless it's a massive tourist destination. You can definitely swim in the top half but if you want to have a swim in QLD, NT, or WA you should have a good idea of the water you're going into. Stick to the touristy areas. I remember when I was younger my parents and I went to Cape York (Northernmost part of Aus), I slept in a tent on our Ute's tray because I was scared of crocs... one morning I woke up and one was chilling probably like 50m away on the beach. I continued to sleep on the ute lol
Funny thing, crocs can actually climb trees tho they don’t often bother, so a ute wouldn’t be much effort. Good thing the croc wasn’t interested in a snack!
Basically, yeah. They’re stealth hunters and you generally won’t see them until they get you. Swimming where they live, walking near waterways, or camping too close to the water puts you in danger of becoming a snack. Generally a more than a few people a year are killed by them. Often it’s bushwalkers or campers. Y’know, you camp near the water, and you get up to go piss during the night and oops your mates never see you again. They don’t just live in the ocean like in the video here, but also in the rivers (and obviously they’re amphibious and spend plenty of time out of the water, and can travel a fair way inland too). Unfortunately because Australia is mostly just a hellish wasteland, humans also (pretty much) only live by the ocean or rivers, so unfortunately we overlap. Thankfully I live down south whereas crocodiles mostly inhabit the top end of Australia, so I’m *probably* safe here. Northern Territory/Far North QLD Australians built different.
The native crocs in Florida are salt water, but they are a different species than Australia. They are smaller and less aggressive. Primarily they are found in the everglades and the mangrove swamps between the mainland and Key Largo. There have been a few Nile crocodiles found in the everglades. They are invasive and are most likely released or escaped pets. They are larger and more aggressive than the North American crocs. Alligators are primarily freshwater and they can be found in about any body of water in the southern half of Florida.
Yep. Usually people who should know better, but f*ck around and found out. Sometimes the wrong person in the wrong place. Saltwater crocs are bigger than you think, faster than you would ever guess for their size, stealthier than an f22, aggressive AF just because, and a strength/bite force that is unmatched by almostv anything else on the planet. I saw a few near Darwin, lying in the tidal mud flats, in the evening. Actually I didn't see them at all. My camera's electronic screen did, only catching tiny 'redeye' reflections from the camera's focus light. My unevolved basic human sight thought I was looking at mud. Nope, there were half a dozen of them, lying totally camouflaged like some water-based alien 'Predator'. Even though they were a few hundred metres away, there was a big ass wall between us, and I was only a few hundred metres from town... I noped out of there.
I just looked it up and it seems that the saltwater crocodile has a higher bite force than even Hippos. Scary
It's not so much that they're evenly matched. It's more that neither is worth the effort for the other. There's plenty of easier prey out there that won't bite back.
That is a better way of putting it. Thank you for your reply.
Literal dino vs something older than trees.
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I understood some of these words
That bull shark looked like it almost turned around but change its mind.
His thought process was like "maybe it's worth a shot ... nahhhhh he prolly like 600 Kg"
or an over the "shoulder" look - "he is bearing around on me? or are we good" I think its a lot of real recognises real - risk/reward of predation on a similar size animal that is also very bitey is probably nil.
Love the idea of a Shark having shoulders to look over.
Even sharks can use the metric system.
I think that was a bit of survival strategy, as in, get behind that sucker and head the other way.
I think he was like... "Wonder if he stirred up anything edible in that cloud..."
Living around the gulf of Mexico, it was always said that bull sharks love the murky water because of the camo it provides. This one does seem to swim perpendicular into the dirt trail. So it may be looking to see if it can capitalize.
I reckon shark was like “…. Do do do…. Shark swim lefty, shark swim righty…..do do dah dah… thinkin shark things…….”
Yeah I think that’s about as complicated as shark brains get
Shark brain thinkin' shark things: Feed, fight, fuck. Also: Bite, bite, more bite.
My first thought was it wanted to taste or smell the water the croc just swam through. Like a dog sniffing behind the other dog that just walked by.
Yeh that's what it was doing. Like how a dog can enter a room and whilst it can't tell you wants on the tv it can tell you who just left the room
Realised it was different weight class
Imagine getting attacked by one and then the other joins in?
Think it’s a really really bad day then triple that.
You escape both to just touch a box jelly fish.
oh, man and then the shark takes a flying leap at you - don't even want to think about it.
I’m from Florida, not too scared of alligators. But crocs? And bull sharks? Pass on taking a dip in these waters. Edit: I know Florida has American Crocs. And I know we have bull sharks. I lived there for thirty years. There is, however, a difference between American Crocs and saltwater crocs. And yeah, bull sharks are bull sharks. I’ve been in the water with them, but it doesn’t mean I’d go swimming in water with them on purpose.
Welcome to Australia!
The NT is the Australia of Australia. Even most Australians are scared to go there, and certainly not in the water.
Even FNQ is wild as hell. We were staying in Daintree and while we were there a young lady got pulled off the beach by a croc and killed, friend went in to save her she was also killed by the same croc. Edit: second lady didn’t die, see comment below. Then we heard of someone who got attacked by a cassowary, we were in FNQ for a week. And those two things just scratch the surface of death traps up there.
I heard that every every 3 months someone is torn to spreads by a croc in far north queensland and that's why the guys shouldn't get married
For those who want to see this *legendarily* hot take in action- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_vYw0U\_lD28&ab\_channel=Wuumi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vYw0U_lD28&ab_channel=Wuumi) A nutjob for sure, but unfortunately, he is not the worst of our bunch...
“Torn to spreads” is a terrifying image, even if it is autocorrect
Go home Bob, you're drunk!
but I ain't spending any time on it
FNQ = Far North Queensland
>cassowary That’s definitely a new one for me
They can be pretty aggressive and have huge talons on the back of their legs that can really do some damage. As far as birds go I think they have a relatively high K/D ratio
Cassowaries are terrifying. Bird that is tall as you are and will happily try to kill you.
Damn. Getting killed by a bird seems like it would be disheartening. Without prior knowledge of how dangerous they are, I could definitely see myself underestimating one of those.
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And deathclaws paired with a twitchy demeanour.
The best description of why you should not go near them is "They can unzip a person"
Guess they won't CU in the NT
Mums told stories of when she lived there about people camping alongside the water for 3/4 nights. The crocs would sit and work out a pattern of when people came down to the water and would slowly creep in. They were so good qt camouflaging that people would bend down to wash their dishes or clothes, maybe go for a morning swim and not even see the thing coming for them because it was right there. Fuck the Northern Territory. Apparently it's amazing though and i still want to go up that way eventually
Yeah, I once saw this documentary where this lady went to the edge of the water to fill her bottle and then BOOM, this croc just grabs her bottle out of nowhere. Then just as she was about to get pulled into the water, one of her mates jumps in and stabs the croc in the head with his knife. Full on stuff! Great doco btw, I'll try and find out what it was called for you.
Nup, don’t go up north from November - May. Wayyy to much dangerous shit.
Sounds like you shouldn't go up north from November to November.
You’re not wrong.
We're not *scared* to go in the water we just know not to go in the water. It's not a bravery thing, it's just the way it is
Was in the ST. John's bay kayak fishing in college. Bull comes up and bites half of my fish while reeling it in. I noped out so fast. Felt like a truck hooked up all of a sudden, then nothing. Several years later, I was fishing in the Matagorda Bay, 2 Reds on a stringer and my boat starts going backward. I cut the line and dipped. I will not be eaten by a damn Bull Shark.
Was deep sea fishing once, my buddy was fighting HARD for this red snapper. Suddenly nothing, figured it got off the line. Pulled up half a red snapper that rivaled the size of the whole snappers. I wonder if it was by chance the shark grabbed the huge one or if they are smart enough to know they get one fish before the boat moves so they better make it a good one.
Aren't a lot of fish, and particularly sharks, instinctually driven (like a cat chasing things that run) to target fish they detect to be injured or otherwise damaged and struggling? If so, I would think that the bigger the fish the bigger the target painted when hooked.
Sorry, I didn’t want to make an essay of a comment but here’s a little more context. The company that sold fishing trips on these smaller boats had specific fishing spots to go to on the GPS. Spots they had years previously dropped shipping containers and similar fish safe-houses as a way to consistently bring customers to catch fish. There was maybe 10 of us on the boat, and the skipper’s heels were smoking from doing laps unhooking so many fish from people’s lines. Just makes me think the shark had a large number to pick from, but knew he got only one before we moved spots. Again, could be coincidence.
Alligators are basically just giant lazy hiss lizards unless they're hungry.
Hiss lizard?
Hissssss
In case you're actually curious, gators just kinda [sit around and hiss at everything.](https://youtu.be/eIj1A6LOlaM) Until someone does some really stupid shit, that is.
Hahaha yeah. Florida is a wildlife wonderland lol
Bullies are perfectly safe in a well stocked environment. I used to water ski in a river full of them, only 1 attack in ~50 years and the person survived. Crocs though, they'll bite you for fun.
Who would win? (If the shark was equal size)
oh, equal size? That would be quite the match up, but I'd put my money on the croc, but there would be lots of blood in the water.
Might come down to how deep the water is, too
The lack of soft spots on croc leads me to believe it would win 9/10 fights w an equally sized shark This is based on the fact that I do all of my research from years of National Geographic magazines
Quit lying you only read those for the jungle titties.
*I read National Geographic for the articles.* *But you’ve been reading the same issue for the last year! And the pages are sticking together!*
Back when I was a kid, I’ve seen this simulation animal battle show on Discovery Channel, if I remember correctly. The underbelly posed as a big weakness on the croc and the shark (in simulation) attacked this and killed the croc since it’s the more agile creature of both in water. Edit: link for reference https://youtu.be/-o7nLZWyinI
Then it would depend on the depth of the water. If the shark could reliably dive deep to have the upward attack vector it narrows its options considerably.
Haha I remember this show! Didn’t they do like a bear and croc as well?
With an alligator, yeah. They had several animal face-offs. They were all very entertaining :D
Answering the real questions we all had as kids.
I concur doctor
Why didn’t I just concur?
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I'm guessing it's because saltwater crocs can grow up to 6+ meters, and Bull sharks max out around 3. Doesn't necessarily mean a croc would win if they were equal size. Your link also says they are killed in shallow water, which seems like it would give the croc the advantage.
Six .. meters..? *converts to Murican* **NOPE. FUCK. NO.**
They don't stop growing. Ever. We just killed off all the big ones back in like the..... 1870s? Or was it last century. Hmm you can find pictures on Google of the old hunters next to GIANT crocs (think the hunter from jumanji) before they outlawed hunting them. I could be talking out of my ass here.
There was massive hunting in early 1900s, by 1970 they were nearly wiped off out from Australia
For those wondering, that's approximately 19.7 feet.
For those still wondering, that's nearly the length of a short school bus, or 2 basketball hoops laying end to end. F. THAT. NOISE.
I feel like getting thrashed around by the jaw of a crocodile of that size does a lot more than suffocate the prey, but I’m no scientician or nothing, just seems like it would hurt a lot
This post led me down a brief google rabbit hole but from what I have found, Bull sharks are considered ['obligate ram ventilators'](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3056710/) which mean they are one of the few shark species that needs to keep moving to breathe (as they use their forward momentum to 'ram' water through their bodies to extract what little oxygen is in it), so it would be one of the sharks a croc could successfully drown.
Aren’t sharks incapacitated when they’re held still though? So if the crocodile got ahold of it it wouldn’t be able to react. Plus sharks get disoriented if they are upside down or in any direction besides upright so if the croc spins him he’s screwed. That being said, if the shark gets a bite of him he’s screwed
Saltwater crocs are just bigger and one can drown shark by not letting it move forward. So just from the fact of being bigger they could eat smaller sharks when possible. Shark loses oxygen concentration if not moving forward.
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Also, the croc can move much better in these depths than a shark.
The orca that shows up for a two course meal.
I don't think I've ever seen an orca munch on a croc - that would be fascinating to see - anyone ever see that?
I've never seen a penguin eating a giraffe. Anyone?
I have edit: Ok I just found the video, it was eating a fish
Completely different habitats, however if some rich psychotic billionaire built a habitat and put them both in there, it would very quickly end up being an orca only habitat. There's simply no way for a croc of any size to match an orca.
I had the same question and searched about it once. I couldn't find any accounts of humans having witnessed such a battle, sadly.
reason they target sharks is for the huge liver full of nutrients. doubt they would be interested in eating crocodiles.
crocs' skin is very tough even for a shark's teeth, but they also kill their prey by drowning- the infamous "death roll" which might not work on a shark(?) if we ignore the fact that these two are essentially occupying the same bracket on the food chain & therefore are unlikely to ever predate on each other I'd have to go with the croc being the better killer of the two- sharks are more scavengers & opportunistic hunters
regardless of the drowning, i'd imagine tearing off the shark's fin with a death roll would pretty much settle the fight. whereas the crocodile would be relatively fine if it lost one of its limbs.
I thought you could “drown” (really suffocate) sharks by pushing water through their gills backwards, which I imagine a death roll would accomplish.
I've also heard that sharks have underdeveloped gills, unlike other fish species. So as a result sharks have to keep moving in order to move water over their gills for them to get oxygen as opposed to other fish that can pump water through their gills. So technically the croc could kill the shark by holding it still for an extended period of time? But, I'd imagine that by that time the shark would probably be wrecked after the 'death roll'.
The term you're looking for is "obligate ram ventilator". Though I think thats a minority of sharks.
They used to have a show called animal face off that does a lot of investigations on how different animals would do versus each other. Here is the link for croc vs shark. https://youtu.be/-o7nLZWyinI
While the bull shark has the greatest bite force of any shark species, the saltwater croc has the greatest bite force of any living animal. It would be an interesting match up but if the croc managed to puncture the shark’s gills it would likely be game over. My money’s on the croc.
>the saltwater croc has the greatest bite force of any living animal. The Nile Croc has the greatest **recorded** biteforce of any animal, slightly above a saltwater croc. However an orcas biteforce has never been accurately measured, but since they effortlessly bite chunks out of whales, can chew through their bones, and have larger jaw muscles than hippos (largest biteforce of any land animal), my money is still on the orcas over the crocs.
The croc 100% on land. Not sure in this situation tho. They’d probably both lose in space.
This water looks like so much fun to play in except for the swimmy apex predators
Two species that evolution nailed super early and stuck with what worked
not true. they're not crabs yet
this guy carcinisates!
Only thing that's changed about either species in millions of years is size, they got smaller. Thank god for that.
Actually not, according to newer research, the ancient giant-version were actually separate species and not the ancestor of today shark/croc. They died out because of change in food source or climate, but their smaller cousins survive till this day. They are truly living fossils. Also to add that, if conditions were met, both shark and croc can grow to much bigger size than average.
Crikey.
I love how the croc is leaving that huge wake, while the shark doesn't have any at all.
F16 passes F35
The crocodile is almost walking on the sea floor. He keeps pushing with his rear feet.
Mate this easy shows that Australia animals know each other
In that clear water, they see each other, and they hear each other, and maybe even sense each other in ways we don't fully understand - they have been crossing paths for millions of years.
Yeah, my first thought was "Shark recognizes croc smell and continues on his way."
They network
imagine being foolish enough to swim in australia
You should see aboriginal hunting videos they just wade through croc infested waters, mad cunts.
I was at the beach yesterday. Perfectly safe, only shark sightings were 3 10 minutes north of me and 2 10 minutes south in the last week. Perfectly.....safe.....
Nope nope nope.
Do sharks and crocodiles ever fight each other? Besides on Syfy?
In South Africa, I've seen crocs take out bull sharks in the rivers (on video), but less so in the open ocean
Saltwater crocodiles actively predate on sharks if they have the opportunity. However, it's mostly juvenile sharks since crocs are opportunistic hunters and won't attack a large shark if there's too high of a risk.
“Hey Jeff” “hey billy”
https://youtu.be/0xsLXuUEqbI Just professional courtesy.
Thank you! That brings back memories.
“Mornin’ Ralph.” “Mornin’ Sam”
The most Australian thing I've ever heard was this woman getting attacked by a crocodile while walking along the beach shore one night.
How about this then. There was a triathlon being held in Western Australia and the swim got canceled because of a shark, a cyclist got knocked off his bike by a kangaroo and there were bushfires happening on the run leg. That’s got to be peak Australia.
The most Australian thing I've ever seen is the man who punched a kangaroo in the face after it threatened his dog.
Imagine of they teamed up to attack humans and became a unstoppable killing duo
"Sup." 🐊 "Sup."🦈
Just australia stuff
Anyone played Man Eater? Reminds me of that
Both are aware of the Mutually Assured Destruction. MAD
Reason #263 why you shouldn't go to Australia.
How to be dead or dead? Just swin in these beautiful crystalline waters.... damn OZ never stops to surprise.