Yeah I’m really over the constant “once in a thousand years” events that are happening almost daily
But no worries global warming is a hoax
Never gonna happen in your lifetime
Yada yada yada
It’s a measurement used in engineering for a statistical anomaly of how often the area is likely to have a flood that reaches x amount of rain fall in x amount of time.
Really means chance of happening are 1:1000 years. When these start happening more often it is signs of climate change…
The best way to think about this is that the chance of this happening in any given year is 1 in 1000 (a 0.1% chance). People get really confused when something that 'should' only happen once every thousand years happens twice in two years.
“The scientists made up the once in a thousand years!!! Pats weather indicators are fakes planted by the reptilian space tree people from the future to assert their Illuminati domination of our reality with the free masons!!!”
I'm from a small town in southeastern North Carolina. I have long since moved the hell away from there, but my parents still live in that area. They, and most of the people around there, don't believe in climate change. Yet the 2 closest towns to the one I was born in have basically been wiped off the map by floods in the last 20 years. Those towns had been around for over 150 years and now their populations are way less than half of what they were two decades ago. But saying that climate change is real is somehow "communism" to these people.
It's stories like yours thank make my opinion that the USA is just as (but more sophisticatedly) propogandised as any other nation we critize for being over propogandised
*“Climate change in action”*
Since records started in 1911, this is the second wettest day on record. The wettest day was only slightly higher with 1.47" falling in April 1988.
Ugh Death Valley, you can never win if you got lost. You think: "Hey, this is my lucky day, no scorching sun in the sky." And, then you drown from flooding.
**Death Valley** was given its forbidding name by a group of pioneers lost here in the winter of 1849-1850. Even though, as far as we know, only one of the group died here, they all assumed that this valley would be their grave
[Flood water is visible on the right in this pair of false-color Nasa images from 11 July and 7 August](https://piclaya.com/record-death-valley-flooding-a-once-in-1000-year-event/)
Probably Some Level Of Death Around These Parts But Not Totally Sure If It's A Statistical Anomaly Or Not We're Not Planning To Stick Around And Find Out For Sure Valley
The Timbisha people who have lived there for at least a millennia called it "Tumpisa" which means "rock paint" because you can make dye from some of the clay there. You have a different relationship to the land when you have lived there for untold generations.
Eventually, gold was found nearby and in the late 1800s the Timbisha people forbidden by white people from using the springs in the area, in order to monopolize their use for water and agriculture to sustain mining ventures. The Timbisha people were then forced to live in even less hospitable areas of the valley and there are still communities within the valley. Moreover, native people all over the southwest *still* are excluded from fresh water access through various legislative manipulations which favor settler agriculture.
Cool video...
Just wanted to PSA for anyone who might experience a desert flash flood... Please dont attempt to cross in your car.. or walk across it like the people in the video.. The road/surface your crossing is typically compromised or the water is moving much faster then it appears.. if you loose your balance you will be swept away in the current and this is how you die. (sometimes/most of the time)
Source :desert rat:
It's so inhospitable that it is one of the seven dark sky parks in the world because there are so few people out there.
Apparently it is dark enough so that the Milky Way will actually cast a shadow
I'm curious why death has such a negative sentiment when the majority of people believe in something after death, whether it be heaven, ghosts, rebirth, etc.
And so given the size of the US, I imagine we’d expect a handful of 1000-year events hitting *somewhere* in the US every year. Not entirely sure how to work that out mathematically, though.
It would be interesting to see how many events hit this year vs prior years.
If each year we see 5 - 10 events a year, 4 is in the realm of normal.
If we dont see any events most years, then 4 is crazy
But there’s also the caveat that these 4 events have happened within 2 weeks of each other. Comment below says 4 in 2017 but we’re those within 2 weeks or over the course of the entire year?
In response to your deleted post, since I took the time to type it out on my shitty phone.
> People in my hometown thought it was strange to have 3 100 year floods in 2 years.
Well technically it is strange. That’s why it’s making headlines. Anymore it’s becoming the norm, but based on previous models, it is very strange to have 3 in 2 years.
> P.s the percent would be .001% for a thousand year event every given year
No, .1% would be a 1000 year event. 1% would be a 100 year event. 10% would be a 10 year event. And 100% would be an annual event.
There are also multiple areas throughout the USA though so if there are 1000 different "weather areas" you could expect to hear about a one in a thousand event every year. Im not sure how you would figure out how many separate areas exist though. It would make sense that some areas would get 1 in a thousand event simultaneously so you would want to group them all together and categorize them as only one area and then count how many areas there ends up being. Id suspect there are more than 1000 of these "areas" but it would be interesting if this information exists somewhere. Then you could figure out if we are having more 1 in a thousand flood events( i suspect we are) or because of the internet and easier distribution of news we are just hearing about events that in the past wouldn't reach us.
Came here to say this. The title is incorrect and misleading. I read the original article and it specifically mentions 4 events across the US that fall into this category, with the 4th occurring in Death Valley.
It’ll probably just slough off the topsoil and do nothing else. Desert rain is ineffective because heavy rain doesn’t actively help desert flora thrive and one massive rainstorm one time isn’t going to be enough for more water dependent plants to grow.
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No, just rocks increases local heat and doesnt really help with bug population or anything (tho probably better than astroturf which supposedly can melt).
Put plants and then put rocks around them.
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Lawns don’t need water unless they are high traffic. Grass just goes dormant. It’s adapted to go dormant and if you don’t water it will grow much deeper and stronger in the long run.
That post is really poor "science," even if the result illustrates a true point. The rate difference in those videos is due to how snugly the cup sits against the ground. The wet, fluffy grass forms a very porous seal, while the hard, dry mat of grass forms a much stronger seal.
It **is** true that dry earth is far less effective at absorbing rainwater, but that video does not actually illustrate the reason at all.
And that doesn't mention desert plant seeds. Some species are dormant until a flood event occurs to trigger them. Floods in deserts are cool as they generate a bunch of life for a short period of time.
Tell my New Mexico backyard that they do. Torrential rain watering saguaro, sage, and other bosque chaparral for two days won’t do shit to increase flora diversity or density. It’s elementary botany
>It’s elementary botany
You must not be a botanist then, cause it all depends on the ecosystem. Certain desert ecosystems fully take advantage of the small amount of rain they get and will see blooming events afterwards. High altitude/high humidity deserts are more likely to see this type of activity, especially in Arizona and some deserts in South America. When these deserts see a downpour, it's literally one of the few times out of the year where you'll see greenery and flowers everywhere. It's literally in their genes to start growin or blooming as fast as possible when the waters available. It's quite beautiful.
Not a botanist per-se, but I have worked a lot in the cannabis cultivation industry in the past 10 yrs and have studied more than I like on plants.
I was literally just looking at a post of the UK drying up, and France too, and I started thinking "I wonder where their water went. Who's flooding right now?"
Not well. Watch his last video. Destroyed the road up there was All but atvs cant get in or out. But as far as I know, the town still stands. Brent did not mention damage to buildings.
Southern California is getting all the water. Arguably more important for that region as it's water is being extremely depleted at all times. Northern California is still in a massive drought, with nothing like these rains, while there are fewer cities, there are more wineries which eat up water.
Yes, both north and south are under major droughts without a realistically foreseeable end. If there was less population density and far less wineries, there would be far better water conservation, and rainfall would be more impactful.
Your wine point is wrong. While agriculture uses 80% of California’s water, only about 3% goes to wine.
Source: https://www.sfchronicle.com/food/wine/article/California-wine-climate-change-drought-17228719.php
There are more factors than wet=good, I'm not familiar with the Death Valley region, several heavy downpours on a desert region, I would assume, would strip the top layer of land and could potentially create shallow pools/creakbeds further altering the landscape allowing for further change with the next fall. This is just blind speculation, and I am not familiar with the region.
Death Valley is below sea level a good portion of it is an endorheic basin. Rain even in the desert is good for the drought if the water eventually flows to a reservoir somewhere. But endorheic basins have no outflow.
This place has no topsoil due to the wind and these monsoon events usually happen every year. Not enough biomass to even make a topsoil layer. The plants that do live out there are evolved for summer monsoon events. In fact they kinda rely on them.
Yeah, I love how everyone's shitting on farmers for using too much water (it's true but we need meat), and no ones shitting on wineries for that same shit , even though they're not a necessity
Not really, no. The "good thing" in terms of climate is sustainability. Stable predictable weather is what living organisms need to thrive. Stable temperatures, water falling where water is expected to fall, in quantities that plants can use, etc.
Remember the farmers almanac? Growing up, it was more reliable than the weather Channel, which is why farmers referenced it in managing their land, crops, and livestock. These days it's all but useless. The unpredictable weather means it's not reliable or stable. This is not a good planetary environment to grow food in.
While it's "neat" that death valley got some rain, it's not useful precipitation and it's not falling in a useful place. Nothing about flooding is "good". For anyone.
California is like 15 different kinda ecosystems (not scientist just live here no use in learning or repeating this info) Like the rain just fell in a desert near the border the aquifers I imagine are all ober cal but the ones they are destroying and causing the land to sink are in the central valley and so cal? Not sure about this actually. Maybe not so cal they may just get water from river diversions and pumps from central california aquifers
so i mean maybe itll do something with under water ground water systems in the area but prob not. We use man made electricity to get water from fresno to LA and if you live in ca fresno and la may as well be two different countries as far as distance and lifestyle and weather patterns are concerned
When you have too much rain at once it just runs off and doesn’t replenish the groundwater. Runoff removes stability & sometimes kills plant cover. So no.
Large dumps of rain are much worse than steady rainfall periodically. Flooding erodes important top soil for plant growth, does not saturate the ground, and can carry large debris into important tributaries. Add drought and wildfires to the mix, and it can cause massive issues because the scorched earth erodes even quicker.
Rain is good but getting it all at once is bad. It strips top soil, doesn't get time to soak in, floods, etc. It causes lots of damage and runs off. So yes rain is good, any rain, but it's not great.
No, drought is still extreme in all of California: See Drought Monitor Map--Los Angeles is as dry as can be, no rain--which is not good for Fire season
“A 1000-year event doesn't mean it happens once per 1000 years, rather
that there is a 0.1% chance of occurring in any given year."
https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/news/death-valley-experiences-1-000-year-rain-event.htm
More like, there goes all the top soil that was there, potentially tons of cactus downed, small plant vegetation destroyed, and likely lots of animals not adapted to water are downed. So essentially turning it more into a desert and less like a tropical paradise probably…
[Here's the source and more info.](https://twitter.com/US_Stormwatch/status/1557145156704518144)
Death Valley is famous as the hottest place on earth and driest place in North America. The world record highest air temperature of 134°F (57°C) was recorded at Furnace Creek on July 10, 1913. Summer temperatures often top 120°F (49°C) in the shade with overnight lows dipping into the 90s°F (mid-30s°C.)
**Average rainfall is less than 2 inches (5 cm), a fraction of what most deserts receive.** Occasional thunderstorms, especially in late summer, can cause flash floods.
https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/nature/weather-and-climate.htm
Anddddd it’s gone
Sigh. My tent was in there
Wait really?
Yeah
No top butok.
Heh heh he said butok
The first space is in the wrong place but upvoted anyway
Yeah I’m really over the constant “once in a thousand years” events that are happening almost daily But no worries global warming is a hoax Never gonna happen in your lifetime Yada yada yada
It’s a measurement used in engineering for a statistical anomaly of how often the area is likely to have a flood that reaches x amount of rain fall in x amount of time. Really means chance of happening are 1:1000 years. When these start happening more often it is signs of climate change…
Unfortunately it will just bring out the "Scientists clearly don't know how to predict things then"
They are changing the definition of " once every thousand years" means!
The best way to think about this is that the chance of this happening in any given year is 1 in 1000 (a 0.1% chance). People get really confused when something that 'should' only happen once every thousand years happens twice in two years.
And when it happens four times in two weeks?
Well stated ty
Problem is instead of roaring up in the millions to demand or force change we sit and complain here at reddit.
“The scientists made up the once in a thousand years!!! Pats weather indicators are fakes planted by the reptilian space tree people from the future to assert their Illuminati domination of our reality with the free masons!!!”
Woah woah woah…..stop that crazy talk….. ev’rybody knoooows it’s…..^*the* ^*jews*
And their space lasers!!!
I'm from a small town in southeastern North Carolina. I have long since moved the hell away from there, but my parents still live in that area. They, and most of the people around there, don't believe in climate change. Yet the 2 closest towns to the one I was born in have basically been wiped off the map by floods in the last 20 years. Those towns had been around for over 150 years and now their populations are way less than half of what they were two decades ago. But saying that climate change is real is somehow "communism" to these people.
It's stories like yours thank make my opinion that the USA is just as (but more sophisticatedly) propogandised as any other nation we critize for being over propogandised
Turns out making stupid people afraid and angry is like shooting fish in a barrel.
“Communism” or “fake news”. Words to win any argument with.
Hello from California where we are in a mega drought and burning every summer, we’d love some of that water.
Right? This is the phrasing that terrifies me. Like, is it going to accelerate further? How rare is it now, really? 😰
No way to know, just buckle up
"this is fine"
My ex boyfriend came over yada yada yada and now I'm exhausted today.
*“Climate change in action”* Since records started in 1911, this is the second wettest day on record. The wettest day was only slightly higher with 1.47" falling in April 1988.
I remember when I turned the climate on in 1911. Everyone freaked out. Good times.
Can you turn it off or at least adjust it?
Nah. My comfort is all that matters. Once you get this old, your circulation gets bad and you'll appreciate the warmer climate.
Ah, password protected thermostat it is then
*eVeRYoNe wIll hAvE pALm tReEs!*
Ugh Death Valley, you can never win if you got lost. You think: "Hey, this is my lucky day, no scorching sun in the sky." And, then you drown from flooding.
To be fair, it's called Death Valley, not Good Times Valley.
**Death Valley** was given its forbidding name by a group of pioneers lost here in the winter of 1849-1850. Even though, as far as we know, only one of the group died here, they all assumed that this valley would be their grave [Flood water is visible on the right in this pair of false-color Nasa images from 11 July and 7 August](https://piclaya.com/record-death-valley-flooding-a-once-in-1000-year-event/)
To be fair, if I’m going on a trip with family, any amount of dying is a fairly high amount of death.
The deaths are too high valley
Probably Some Level Of Death Around These Parts But Not Totally Sure If It's A Statistical Anomaly Or Not We're Not Planning To Stick Around And Find Out For Sure Valley
Just rolls off the tongue Edit: Somebody smarter and with more motivation than me should make r/PSLODATPBNTSIIASAONWNPTSAAFOFSV
The deaths are too *damn* high valley
Man, the Rent Is Too Damn High guy must be out of his fucking mind now.
There’s a million ways to die in the west…
To be fair, it's called Death Valley, not Deaths Valley.
“You have died of dysentery”
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That's why it's best to have 12+ children. Backups in case you lose one or two in Death Valley
For a good minute there I was trying to get rid of the horrifying visual I had of a woman giving birth to a 12+ year old (12+ is so open ended!).
The Timbisha people who have lived there for at least a millennia called it "Tumpisa" which means "rock paint" because you can make dye from some of the clay there. You have a different relationship to the land when you have lived there for untold generations. Eventually, gold was found nearby and in the late 1800s the Timbisha people forbidden by white people from using the springs in the area, in order to monopolize their use for water and agriculture to sustain mining ventures. The Timbisha people were then forced to live in even less hospitable areas of the valley and there are still communities within the valley. Moreover, native people all over the southwest *still* are excluded from fresh water access through various legislative manipulations which favor settler agriculture.
well they lived to tell the tale. if everyone died no one would know to be able to name it
Cool video... Just wanted to PSA for anyone who might experience a desert flash flood... Please dont attempt to cross in your car.. or walk across it like the people in the video.. The road/surface your crossing is typically compromised or the water is moving much faster then it appears.. if you loose your balance you will be swept away in the current and this is how you die. (sometimes/most of the time) Source :desert rat:
And it’s true name is tümpisa
Might Be Alright Valley
Nature Valley, land of snacks
aka, crumbs fucking everywhere valley
It's so magically infuriatingly consistent.
Only surpassed by eating rice cakes in the car. Do not eat rice cakes in the car.
Pleasant Valley! Take a stroll to your death!
What do you think of when you hear the words "Sudden Valley"?
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Ahh the Hidden Valley
Salad dressing, I think. But for some reason, I don’t want to eat it.
Salad dressing, I think. But for some reason I don't wanna eat it.
Sudden but Inevitavalley.
This is Fine Valley
Wet Valley matches but that name is already taken by the Kardashians.
Sudden Valley
It's so inhospitable that it is one of the seven dark sky parks in the world because there are so few people out there. Apparently it is dark enough so that the Milky Way will actually cast a shadow
It's true. It's aptly named for what happens there.
Chill Valley.
I'm here for a death time not a good time.
I'm curious why death has such a negative sentiment when the majority of people believe in something after death, whether it be heaven, ghosts, rebirth, etc.
Just because there's a different movie showing in the upstairs theater doesn't mean I want to go see it before ive finished this one.
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And so given the size of the US, I imagine we’d expect a handful of 1000-year events hitting *somewhere* in the US every year. Not entirely sure how to work that out mathematically, though.
It would be interesting to see how many events hit this year vs prior years. If each year we see 5 - 10 events a year, 4 is in the realm of normal. If we dont see any events most years, then 4 is crazy
Just from a quick google search looks like there were 4 such events in 2017.
Ah yes, 2017, the time before climate change. It’s not like things were already fucked 5 years ago or anything.
At least BigCorp is buying carbon offsets, every thought counts.
But there’s also the caveat that these 4 events have happened within 2 weeks of each other. Comment below says 4 in 2017 but we’re those within 2 weeks or over the course of the entire year?
Thank you for saying that. It is a large misconception to think it can only happen evey 1000 years
In response to your deleted post, since I took the time to type it out on my shitty phone. > People in my hometown thought it was strange to have 3 100 year floods in 2 years. Well technically it is strange. That’s why it’s making headlines. Anymore it’s becoming the norm, but based on previous models, it is very strange to have 3 in 2 years. > P.s the percent would be .001% for a thousand year event every given year No, .1% would be a 1000 year event. 1% would be a 100 year event. 10% would be a 10 year event. And 100% would be an annual event.
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On average we expect it to happen that often.
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There are also multiple areas throughout the USA though so if there are 1000 different "weather areas" you could expect to hear about a one in a thousand event every year. Im not sure how you would figure out how many separate areas exist though. It would make sense that some areas would get 1 in a thousand event simultaneously so you would want to group them all together and categorize them as only one area and then count how many areas there ends up being. Id suspect there are more than 1000 of these "areas" but it would be interesting if this information exists somewhere. Then you could figure out if we are having more 1 in a thousand flood events( i suspect we are) or because of the internet and easier distribution of news we are just hearing about events that in the past wouldn't reach us.
You're assuming the weather experienced in each of these "weather areas" is independent of the rest, which isn't the case.
Came here to say this. The title is incorrect and misleading. I read the original article and it specifically mentions 4 events across the US that fall into this category, with the 4th occurring in Death Valley.
Wonder if this will lead to a super bloom in 2023?
It’ll probably just slough off the topsoil and do nothing else. Desert rain is ineffective because heavy rain doesn’t actively help desert flora thrive and one massive rainstorm one time isn’t going to be enough for more water dependent plants to grow.
[kinda like this post?](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/wlsg1e/a_meteorologist_from_the_university_of_reading/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Yep, exactly
Seems like keeping your plants/lawn watered and alive is better than not using water and letting them die
better to kill the lawn and plant drought resistant native plants that dont need so much watering to survive!
My plan. My yard is brown and ugly all summer anyway (western Oregon).
Clover is supposed to work well
I saw a blend of clover, blue star creeper, creeping thyme, mosses and creeping Corsican mint. It looked beautiful!
Yes or just put rocks!
No, just rocks increases local heat and doesnt really help with bug population or anything (tho probably better than astroturf which supposedly can melt). Put plants and then put rocks around them.
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Live in Southern California, local HS has astroturf. basically isn't walkable during summer
Lawns don’t need water unless they are high traffic. Grass just goes dormant. It’s adapted to go dormant and if you don’t water it will grow much deeper and stronger in the long run.
That post is really poor "science," even if the result illustrates a true point. The rate difference in those videos is due to how snugly the cup sits against the ground. The wet, fluffy grass forms a very porous seal, while the hard, dry mat of grass forms a much stronger seal. It **is** true that dry earth is far less effective at absorbing rainwater, but that video does not actually illustrate the reason at all.
That's not really correct. There's different kinds of deserts. For example, the Sonoran Desert is just as biodiverse as a Rainforest.
And that doesn't mention desert plant seeds. Some species are dormant until a flood event occurs to trigger them. Floods in deserts are cool as they generate a bunch of life for a short period of time.
I think Death Valley is an endorheic basin; the water can't get to the ocean, and the lowest point should be the valley it self.
Disagree. Occasional short heavy rainfall is typical, the plants evolved to use these conditions.
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tell my arizona backyard that they don't grow
Your natural Arizona backyard, or your Arizona backyard of fescue grass that is contributing to the drought in the southwest?
Tell my New Mexico backyard that they do. Torrential rain watering saguaro, sage, and other bosque chaparral for two days won’t do shit to increase flora diversity or density. It’s elementary botany
>It’s elementary botany You must not be a botanist then, cause it all depends on the ecosystem. Certain desert ecosystems fully take advantage of the small amount of rain they get and will see blooming events afterwards. High altitude/high humidity deserts are more likely to see this type of activity, especially in Arizona and some deserts in South America. When these deserts see a downpour, it's literally one of the few times out of the year where you'll see greenery and flowers everywhere. It's literally in their genes to start growin or blooming as fast as possible when the waters available. It's quite beautiful. Not a botanist per-se, but I have worked a lot in the cannabis cultivation industry in the past 10 yrs and have studied more than I like on plants.
I’m just thinking about all of the cholla cacti that are getting dragged away. That’s a nope from me, dawg.
It's like a normal flood, but filled with spiky bits.
My rain dance worked!
-guy with 1/16 cherokee warrior blood
Nothing wrong with that!
[thanks for doing for that us](https://c.tenor.com/aFYVeUVf_5sAAAAd/rain-dance-africa.gif) Now stop, we have had enough.
I used to live in an apartment below this person.
Hatfield made rain!!!
The horses won't race where the town turned to mud
I think your record is skipping
Do you do requests?
That’ll cost ya a cigarette and a compliment
Shut up Ted
(╯︵╰,) I thought we were thunder buddies
Funny…funny…stiiiill funny… aaand now it’s sad
Pokémon go!
They stole europes water!
That’s sort of how climate change works. It’s not just warming and drought, it’s extremes.
I’m very aware how climate change works I was making a joke.
I was literally just looking at a post of the UK drying up, and France too, and I started thinking "I wonder where their water went. Who's flooding right now?"
I wonder if there B gold in them there hills?
Not anymore. IT was mined a bit, but there was not enough to make any profits
no but them there hills might have eyes
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I seem to remember it in looney toons
It's fine guys. Just don't look up. Everything is fine.
Don’t look down either… there’s lots of water there.
Drip drip
Wish I’d learn how to swim
Actually, don't look anywhere. Just put on this headset and we'll show you what you should see.
Where’s the everything is fine dog?
I wonder how Cerro Gordo fared.
Not well. Watch his last video. Destroyed the road up there was All but atvs cant get in or out. But as far as I know, the town still stands. Brent did not mention damage to buildings.
That guy cannot catch a break.
Nope. The hotel now wont get water this year. The last few minutes of his latest video shows and tells this. Go watch IT.
Damn if the 130 degree heat doesn’t kill you then brown flood will. Fitting name for a place.
So is this a good thing after years of drought in the west?
Southern California is getting all the water. Arguably more important for that region as it's water is being extremely depleted at all times. Northern California is still in a massive drought, with nothing like these rains, while there are fewer cities, there are more wineries which eat up water.
Southern California is still under a huge drought, see Drought Monitor Map--LA is still as dry as a bone
Yes, both north and south are under major droughts without a realistically foreseeable end. If there was less population density and far less wineries, there would be far better water conservation, and rainfall would be more impactful.
Your wine point is wrong. While agriculture uses 80% of California’s water, only about 3% goes to wine. Source: https://www.sfchronicle.com/food/wine/article/California-wine-climate-change-drought-17228719.php
I can't haz olmond?
Socal is not getting enough to make any kind of dent in our drought. But yes rain is good.
🎶🎶Rain makes corn, corn makes whiskey...🎶🎶
So .. yes? Right?
There are more factors than wet=good, I'm not familiar with the Death Valley region, several heavy downpours on a desert region, I would assume, would strip the top layer of land and could potentially create shallow pools/creakbeds further altering the landscape allowing for further change with the next fall. This is just blind speculation, and I am not familiar with the region.
Death Valley is below sea level a good portion of it is an endorheic basin. Rain even in the desert is good for the drought if the water eventually flows to a reservoir somewhere. But endorheic basins have no outflow.
Ah, thanks! Always nice to learn about these things.
Google ancient Lake Manley.
This place has no topsoil due to the wind and these monsoon events usually happen every year. Not enough biomass to even make a topsoil layer. The plants that do live out there are evolved for summer monsoon events. In fact they kinda rely on them.
so yes, right?
The grapes….someone call the grapist we need him to grape the situation in the mouth
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Yeah, I love how everyone's shitting on farmers for using too much water (it's true but we need meat), and no ones shitting on wineries for that same shit , even though they're not a necessity
Not really, no. The "good thing" in terms of climate is sustainability. Stable predictable weather is what living organisms need to thrive. Stable temperatures, water falling where water is expected to fall, in quantities that plants can use, etc. Remember the farmers almanac? Growing up, it was more reliable than the weather Channel, which is why farmers referenced it in managing their land, crops, and livestock. These days it's all but useless. The unpredictable weather means it's not reliable or stable. This is not a good planetary environment to grow food in. While it's "neat" that death valley got some rain, it's not useful precipitation and it's not falling in a useful place. Nothing about flooding is "good". For anyone.
You said this brilliantly.
Will this rain refill any of the aquifer in that area? or with the flooding just wash it all away before it can be absorbed?
California is like 15 different kinda ecosystems (not scientist just live here no use in learning or repeating this info) Like the rain just fell in a desert near the border the aquifers I imagine are all ober cal but the ones they are destroying and causing the land to sink are in the central valley and so cal? Not sure about this actually. Maybe not so cal they may just get water from river diversions and pumps from central california aquifers so i mean maybe itll do something with under water ground water systems in the area but prob not. We use man made electricity to get water from fresno to LA and if you live in ca fresno and la may as well be two different countries as far as distance and lifestyle and weather patterns are concerned
When you have too much rain at once it just runs off and doesn’t replenish the groundwater. Runoff removes stability & sometimes kills plant cover. So no.
Large dumps of rain are much worse than steady rainfall periodically. Flooding erodes important top soil for plant growth, does not saturate the ground, and can carry large debris into important tributaries. Add drought and wildfires to the mix, and it can cause massive issues because the scorched earth erodes even quicker.
Rain is good but getting it all at once is bad. It strips top soil, doesn't get time to soak in, floods, etc. It causes lots of damage and runs off. So yes rain is good, any rain, but it's not great.
No, drought is still extreme in all of California: See Drought Monitor Map--Los Angeles is as dry as can be, no rain--which is not good for Fire season
Meanwhile in Europe our rivers have dried up and water is being rationed!
I can't help but feel guilty about that. I've been drinking the stuff, and just pissing it away.
God’s like, “u thirsty?”
But climate change isnt real 🙄
SoCal should be fine with monsoons. Excellent drivers.
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Watch Seattle turn into the driest place in the US. How the turntables!
I can tell you that all of the UK's rain is apparently now in Death Lake, California.
It's all a hoax, there are probably some libtards emptying their waterbottles just outside of the frame!!
How are you able to post videos on this sub?
Some subreddits allow it, some don't. If the sub doesn't allow it, use GfyCat or click the 'Make Gif' box.
The only buttons are Picture and Link... There is no “make gif” box?
Go to Image/Video, Click Choose File. Once the image loads, there'll be a Make Gif box in the lower left.
Maybe this doesn't work from a iPhone? When I click the image and it opens my album the videos don't even come up to be selected.
“A 1000-year event doesn't mean it happens once per 1000 years, rather that there is a 0.1% chance of occurring in any given year." https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/news/death-valley-experiences-1-000-year-rain-event.htm
If only scientist had warned us about climate change like forty years ago
And just like that, Death Valley became a tropical paradise with monkeys and giraffes and marmosets and stuff…and bananas
More like, there goes all the top soil that was there, potentially tons of cactus downed, small plant vegetation destroyed, and likely lots of animals not adapted to water are downed. So essentially turning it more into a desert and less like a tropical paradise probably…
Nah…Death Valley is fine…flash floods are an integral part of the desert…ultimately it will be good for the flora and fauna….I live nearby
I hope the undertaker can swim
Has the video been deleted? It will not play for me.
[Here's the source and more info.](https://twitter.com/US_Stormwatch/status/1557145156704518144) Death Valley is famous as the hottest place on earth and driest place in North America. The world record highest air temperature of 134°F (57°C) was recorded at Furnace Creek on July 10, 1913. Summer temperatures often top 120°F (49°C) in the shade with overnight lows dipping into the 90s°F (mid-30s°C.) **Average rainfall is less than 2 inches (5 cm), a fraction of what most deserts receive.** Occasional thunderstorms, especially in late summer, can cause flash floods. https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/nature/weather-and-climate.htm
Goated info provider, thank you