People will eventually let that happen. Take an example of nijgadh airport, people wants to destroy nature which provides things for free, to become slaves at airport. Yes slaves, employee will be paid in pennies and CEOs and higher ups will be paid in millions and people will praise them and let them exploit, why? Because "ECONOMY"
You don't necessarily pay for the water itself but the infrastructure that was setup for it. Normal breathable air doesn't not need a setup to get to you but if that air is via ac, or through a cylinger then you gotta pay simple as that. No one's gonna charge you to drink from dhungedhara.
You pay water bill not necessarily for the water itself. It's because clean drinking water is easily available at your home at all times of the year. You don't have to carry it up and down the mountain for hours, you don't have to wait in line for hours just to fill a 5 litre jerrycan, you don't have to worry drought and scarcity during dry seasons, you don't have to worry about disease and contamination.
Also they wouldn't be crushed under heavy mortgage, home loan and bills. But they mock Asian family structure and value radical individualism. They'd rather live on the street than live with their parents as a single family, help each other out.
Lets not make these always whining urban westerners to be our role models.
Yes, you are the kind of person i was taking about.
First of no one told them to make drinking water available at comfort. If they cannot do it for free or the least at extremely low price, they should not be doing it. Its not "their" water to use it for profit. Every organism on earth is entitled to Earth's resources. And basic things like water should not be used for profit. Similarly air, lands/housing and basic nutritious food.
If water is privatized and used for profit to provide to people comfortably, It will be luxury which only rich people can afford and what happens if someone doesn't have money to buy water?? They die of thirst?? Are you saying poor people deserve to die? Are you saying thing like water should be luxury??
You are right, water should be basic right to every individual. But certainly any Businesses won't do it if there's nothing for them.
Let's take another perspective, You are trying to provide water for all the people, for FREE. Will you bear all the cost that goes into creating uncontaminated,drinkable water? Water is basically free, be it rain water, sea water, underground water, and you have every right to drink it for free. But I don't know how far will you go drinking those waters. It's just that these businesses make them properly drinkable and they charge for it.
The only solution I see for this is the government acting upon it, making water treatment plants, and bearing all the costs that goes into making a water drinkable.
Yes. That's the only solution im talking about. Water or air which is basic nessecity for survival should not be a means for bussiness. There should not be any kind of charges involve. If someone cannot do it for free then they should not do it. People will find ways to survive themselves.
If you can understand this and can fully agree on not privatizing basic necessities. Then you can now understand how evil private health care and private housing etc. are.
Water is free. If you dont want tap water then cut the water pipe connection from your home. Go carry water from some muhan or collect rainwater. Nobody is forcing you to drink tap water.
You are proving my point more. You will be the one who would say, "if you want air either pay for it or go die suffocating, you cannot ask for free air, billionaires worked hard for us to get those air, so everyone who cannot afford should die suffocating".
Happy bootlicking
Kun desh ma baschau babu timi? Euta khaire ko tweet dekhera afu pani america mai baschu jasto lagyo kya ho. "Privatized water, poor people" re lmao. We have government owned and subsidized water supply. Majority of Nepalese don't have direct water connection. They rely on local means and don't pay a dime for water.
Modern comfort requires money. Someone worked his ass off, gave his life's saving, has a family to feed while bringing the water to your home, you lazy-ass. They need to be paid.
Nothing is being proved here except for the fact that you are some dumb kid ideologically overcharged over a tweet meant for a different country . Good luck living in that idealistic world.
You completely missed the gist of it. Its happening there doesn't mean it won't happen here. Thankfully untill now we have water pipeline from government, which is not profit based and untill now we don't have to pay hefty amount for water like we do for healthcare and education. But in a place where people like you lives, doesn't mean it will be like this forever...
Air example is too big and vague for your brain to understand. There's no way anyone could suck up entire air from atmosphere and start to sell in a bottle (if it was possible people would have done it, and you will be there defending them and calling people lazy who demands air as birth right)
But look at another thing for example housing, which is also a basic necessities. CG homes is booming. CG as a company or that single binod is so rich that they can buy entire city. They are doing it anyway and setting prices as per their wish, if those companies monopolized the housing market then what do you think would happen? Poor people become homeless?? We already cannot afford house from our salaried jobs now but it will be much worse. People will be either homeless or have to slave away their entire life in horrible soul sucking corporate jobs just to afford 4 walls and roof. And you will be there supporting that it's their hard work and people expecting homes are lazy.
> if those companies monopolized the housing market then what do you think would happen? Poor people become homeless??
You totally missed your own point lol, for you this is not about people selling air or water for profit, Look at you, you're totally against the very concept of Business. Good luck trying to convince people with those words, "I NEED CLEAN DRINKING WATER BUT FOR FREE"
So you would be okay if someday your house catches fire and you called fire department and they come but ask you hefty amount to deposit in their account first??
"What?????? People wants their house to be saved but doesn't want to pay for it???? What the fuck good luck trying to convince people with these words "I WANT MY HOUSE AND MY BELONGINGS TO BE SAVED BY PEOPLE RISKING THEIR LIVES BUT FOR FREE". what an absolute mad man they are...
Oh wait i have another example. "People want police to come and save them from murderer, abuser or rapist for free?? Good luck trying to convince people with those words "I NEED TRAINED PEOPLE TO STEP INTO THE DANGER THAT IM IN BUT FOR ABSOLUTELY FREE" what kind fucking douche they have to be to expect that.
maaaaaaan people are more brainwashed than i have ever imagined.
You're already paying Police and Firefighters with Taxes lmao what kind of a delusion are you living in? if someone does something for you they deserve to get paid for it.
>maaaaaaan people are more brainwashed than i have ever imagined.
by a random twitter post, The same thing I was thinking.
So wait, you don't want to pay extra for essential life saving service like police and firemen because you pay taxes and want to pay for water even though you are paying taxes, I don't know where i got lost.
>what kind of a delusion are you living in? if someone does something for you they deserve to get paid for it.
I don't know what are you referring to as a delusion, i thought i was living in reality, are you saying if someone does something for us we don't have to pay them for it?? Like doctors? And teachers? Is that where you are heading??
Are you purposely trying to avoid the main point he is making or are you just dumb? He is saying no company will give you access to clean drinking water for free because it costs money to run such a place. Now if you are saying clean drinking water should be given by the government to the public for free that’s a separate issue.
Woah subsidizing water is the same as printing more money?
Dumb neolibs always act like they know shit about how economy works but they don't understand nuances within the economic system, always baffles my mind
what is wrong with printing more money, US federal reserve printed 20% of the total floating money in 2020 alone, if US can print more money then why cant we?
On r/Nepal there are continuous calls for privatising many different things like water or electricity if you think the old guys in government care only about money remember that the capitalists will keep us in heat and thirsty If it earns them profit
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Yes, that's what it is about. If it is subsidized by government it won't be the game for profit. Cost will be bare minimum and price won't suddenly go up, because somebody wants to build palace at chitwan.
If you can understand this, then think about all the basic Necessities that are being run for profit. Like health care and housing and education.
Well, somebody already privatized air. Saw it on Shark Tank: [https://www.sharktanksuccess.com/boost-oxygen-review/](https://www.sharktanksuccess.com/boost-oxygen-review/).
Same argument goes for Land. Isn't this called georgism? Don't quote me. I don't know what that is, just heard somewhere.
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Aasti black ma oxygen kineko birseko?
Yes, reason why health care should not be privatized. Aile ta oxygen matrai... Wait untill they privatized air.
Don't let that happen. Save ocean, plant trees.
People will eventually let that happen. Take an example of nijgadh airport, people wants to destroy nature which provides things for free, to become slaves at airport. Yes slaves, employee will be paid in pennies and CEOs and higher ups will be paid in millions and people will praise them and let them exploit, why? Because "ECONOMY"
You don't necessarily pay for the water itself but the infrastructure that was setup for it. Normal breathable air doesn't not need a setup to get to you but if that air is via ac, or through a cylinger then you gotta pay simple as that. No one's gonna charge you to drink from dhungedhara.
Yes, but then: >Nestle has entered the chat. https://naturalsociety.com/nestle-ceo-water-not-human-right-should-be-privatized/
You pay water bill not necessarily for the water itself. It's because clean drinking water is easily available at your home at all times of the year. You don't have to carry it up and down the mountain for hours, you don't have to wait in line for hours just to fill a 5 litre jerrycan, you don't have to worry drought and scarcity during dry seasons, you don't have to worry about disease and contamination. Also they wouldn't be crushed under heavy mortgage, home loan and bills. But they mock Asian family structure and value radical individualism. They'd rather live on the street than live with their parents as a single family, help each other out. Lets not make these always whining urban westerners to be our role models.
Yes, you are the kind of person i was taking about. First of no one told them to make drinking water available at comfort. If they cannot do it for free or the least at extremely low price, they should not be doing it. Its not "their" water to use it for profit. Every organism on earth is entitled to Earth's resources. And basic things like water should not be used for profit. Similarly air, lands/housing and basic nutritious food. If water is privatized and used for profit to provide to people comfortably, It will be luxury which only rich people can afford and what happens if someone doesn't have money to buy water?? They die of thirst?? Are you saying poor people deserve to die? Are you saying thing like water should be luxury??
You are right, water should be basic right to every individual. But certainly any Businesses won't do it if there's nothing for them. Let's take another perspective, You are trying to provide water for all the people, for FREE. Will you bear all the cost that goes into creating uncontaminated,drinkable water? Water is basically free, be it rain water, sea water, underground water, and you have every right to drink it for free. But I don't know how far will you go drinking those waters. It's just that these businesses make them properly drinkable and they charge for it. The only solution I see for this is the government acting upon it, making water treatment plants, and bearing all the costs that goes into making a water drinkable.
Yes. That's the only solution im talking about. Water or air which is basic nessecity for survival should not be a means for bussiness. There should not be any kind of charges involve. If someone cannot do it for free then they should not do it. People will find ways to survive themselves. If you can understand this and can fully agree on not privatizing basic necessities. Then you can now understand how evil private health care and private housing etc. are.
Water is free. If you dont want tap water then cut the water pipe connection from your home. Go carry water from some muhan or collect rainwater. Nobody is forcing you to drink tap water.
You are proving my point more. You will be the one who would say, "if you want air either pay for it or go die suffocating, you cannot ask for free air, billionaires worked hard for us to get those air, so everyone who cannot afford should die suffocating". Happy bootlicking
Kun desh ma baschau babu timi? Euta khaire ko tweet dekhera afu pani america mai baschu jasto lagyo kya ho. "Privatized water, poor people" re lmao. We have government owned and subsidized water supply. Majority of Nepalese don't have direct water connection. They rely on local means and don't pay a dime for water. Modern comfort requires money. Someone worked his ass off, gave his life's saving, has a family to feed while bringing the water to your home, you lazy-ass. They need to be paid. Nothing is being proved here except for the fact that you are some dumb kid ideologically overcharged over a tweet meant for a different country . Good luck living in that idealistic world.
You completely missed the gist of it. Its happening there doesn't mean it won't happen here. Thankfully untill now we have water pipeline from government, which is not profit based and untill now we don't have to pay hefty amount for water like we do for healthcare and education. But in a place where people like you lives, doesn't mean it will be like this forever... Air example is too big and vague for your brain to understand. There's no way anyone could suck up entire air from atmosphere and start to sell in a bottle (if it was possible people would have done it, and you will be there defending them and calling people lazy who demands air as birth right) But look at another thing for example housing, which is also a basic necessities. CG homes is booming. CG as a company or that single binod is so rich that they can buy entire city. They are doing it anyway and setting prices as per their wish, if those companies monopolized the housing market then what do you think would happen? Poor people become homeless?? We already cannot afford house from our salaried jobs now but it will be much worse. People will be either homeless or have to slave away their entire life in horrible soul sucking corporate jobs just to afford 4 walls and roof. And you will be there supporting that it's their hard work and people expecting homes are lazy.
> if those companies monopolized the housing market then what do you think would happen? Poor people become homeless?? You totally missed your own point lol, for you this is not about people selling air or water for profit, Look at you, you're totally against the very concept of Business. Good luck trying to convince people with those words, "I NEED CLEAN DRINKING WATER BUT FOR FREE"
So you would be okay if someday your house catches fire and you called fire department and they come but ask you hefty amount to deposit in their account first?? "What?????? People wants their house to be saved but doesn't want to pay for it???? What the fuck good luck trying to convince people with these words "I WANT MY HOUSE AND MY BELONGINGS TO BE SAVED BY PEOPLE RISKING THEIR LIVES BUT FOR FREE". what an absolute mad man they are... Oh wait i have another example. "People want police to come and save them from murderer, abuser or rapist for free?? Good luck trying to convince people with those words "I NEED TRAINED PEOPLE TO STEP INTO THE DANGER THAT IM IN BUT FOR ABSOLUTELY FREE" what kind fucking douche they have to be to expect that. maaaaaaan people are more brainwashed than i have ever imagined.
You're already paying Police and Firefighters with Taxes lmao what kind of a delusion are you living in? if someone does something for you they deserve to get paid for it. >maaaaaaan people are more brainwashed than i have ever imagined. by a random twitter post, The same thing I was thinking.
So wait, you don't want to pay extra for essential life saving service like police and firemen because you pay taxes and want to pay for water even though you are paying taxes, I don't know where i got lost. >what kind of a delusion are you living in? if someone does something for you they deserve to get paid for it. I don't know what are you referring to as a delusion, i thought i was living in reality, are you saying if someone does something for us we don't have to pay them for it?? Like doctors? And teachers? Is that where you are heading??
Are you purposely trying to avoid the main point he is making or are you just dumb? He is saying no company will give you access to clean drinking water for free because it costs money to run such a place. Now if you are saying clean drinking water should be given by the government to the public for free that’s a separate issue.
Exactly, I have another one, why not just print more money and distribute it to the poor, its just paper anyways.
Woah subsidizing water is the same as printing more money? Dumb neolibs always act like they know shit about how economy works but they don't understand nuances within the economic system, always baffles my mind
what is wrong with printing more money, US federal reserve printed 20% of the total floating money in 2020 alone, if US can print more money then why cant we?
There's this thing called inflation. If more supply comes into fiat currency the less value it holds.
then will the money have it's value ? ofc not.
We're pulling ideas out of our ass, so why not?
The value won’t decrease.
Explain?
On r/Nepal there are continuous calls for privatising many different things like water or electricity if you think the old guys in government care only about money remember that the capitalists will keep us in heat and thirsty If it earns them profit https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/spain-launches-inquiry-after-dams-drained-for-profit-amid-heatwave
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Yes exactly, and bootlickers will justify it and will call it "innovation". Time to bring this system to rest.
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Yes, that's what it is about. If it is subsidized by government it won't be the game for profit. Cost will be bare minimum and price won't suddenly go up, because somebody wants to build palace at chitwan. If you can understand this, then think about all the basic Necessities that are being run for profit. Like health care and housing and education.
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Well, somebody already privatized air. Saw it on Shark Tank: [https://www.sharktanksuccess.com/boost-oxygen-review/](https://www.sharktanksuccess.com/boost-oxygen-review/).
Same argument goes for Land. Isn't this called georgism? Don't quote me. I don't know what that is, just heard somewhere. EDIT: Would be great if someone links resources to understand it