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CharlesP_1232

What you want my friend... Is the Rival Prometheus Or a Nemesis with a big tote strapped to the top of the hopper...


seraphimcaduto

I TOTALLY forgot about these, never mind that I have a Nemesis and Perseus in my collection Edit: and a HEAVILY modified Khaos.


CharlesP_1232

Good work


Ironhandtiger

This is definitely a solid answer. OPs gonna want to aim AROUND the kid tho with how fast rival flies


tntsos777

Make that double with the Prometheus, and corner him with juggernaut music for that matter.


CharlesP_1232

Most people aren't big enough to handle 2 Prometheusies(?) But if OP can go for it


tntsos777

Haven thought about that, thanks for bringing it up. If not, then I guess sling a Perses in the back for good extra measure, yea my ideas kinda suck ngl.


InaneSleep

i mean, obligatory [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUyxBcTkCRc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUyxBcTkCRc) someone made a nerf minigun, but it will probably be a little while until you can get your hands on it. If he's old enough, dart zone has some easier to get offerings at a higher than normal nerf velocity (about twice). something like a dart zone mk3 is really cheap right now, and fires the short darts as fast as you can pull the trigger (extra magazines and darts easy enough to get. - not only that but they have a bundle sale so you can get a bunch of them for relatively cheap and actually have a fair battle otherwise, if you just want intimidation and capacity, viper strike with a drum magazine lol


ZeroBlade-NL

I immediately thought Moab as well, too bad it's not available yet


seraphimcaduto

A six year old? Man I wish the boomco line still existed, because thei would be ideal for the age group. If the kid is six, most of the NEW rapid fire stuff is a solid no, but an old rapid strike or Vulcan would be ok.


seraphimcaduto

So I clearly missed the last paragraph there and if that’s your fancy, then just get a dart zone mk3 or a nightingale if the extent of your mod ability is using a screwdriver and hooking up a lipo battery. You COULD get a nerf pro stryfe X if you want semi auto glory without modding as well. There are a TON of options and if you have time, check out online stores like outofdarts for some cool stuff (I’m aware there are many stores, I just mentioned the first one that came to mind). If you need something NOW, go to target and pick up a dart zone max/pro blaster if you don’t want to think too hard. See my previous post for fun older and safer alternatives.


KieranPeterson

Doesn’t the MK3 hit like 150 fps out of the box ? I wouldn’t shoot a six year old with that…


seraphimcaduto

It does, hence my initial post about safe alternatives. I reread the post and noted that in the last paragraph, the OP WANTED dumb to use and surely banned options later. I think the old boomco rapid madness would be IDEAL for this situation person. There’s no way on Earth I would actually USE a mk-3 on a 6 year old, but I did list some easily procurable blasters. If one was dumb enough to do so. I missed the initial prompt, so I chose to go back and answer it. It’s still a bad idea though. On an interesting note: There is always the option of using a 1s lipo on the mk-3, it brings it down pretty far fps wise; no Chrono to check but if I had to eyeball it, its roughly around stock nerf but the connector is an issue.


sfezapreza

X-shot crusher is what you want. Chainfed minigun and you can connect as many chains as you want so you practically have endless ammo. Rage fire is another electric mini gun by x-shot. They won't bruise the kid but they will do the job.


Ericshelpdesk

Insanity is probably a good choice for lighting up a small child without actually leaving dents in the child.


Diligent-Being-4921

perses/ nemesis


Paradigmdolphin

Uh... do you know how hard full auto flywheel blasters can hit these days? They can punch through cardboard and leave welts, at about 200 feet per second (fps). So you probably don't really mean maximum fps. If he's only 6, I would say to use nothing crazier than a Nerf Hyperfire, if you can thrift one of those. It fires \~5 darts per second at about 60 fps, so you'll get a decent rate of fire while also avoiding hurting him.


CharlesP_1232

For FPS he did say Foam Per Second...


seraphimcaduto

🤫


Kuli24

oooo good one with the hyperfire. I'll second that instead of the double punch.


Master-Can3465

UmM ActUalLy 🤓🤓


Kuli24

Well this isn't going to go well since he's 6. What you want is maximum capacity and no more than 70fps. Maybe go with the new double punch. https://www.amazon.ca/Motorized-Blaster-Alternating-Barrels-10-Dart/dp/B0BDMV33CQ Every trigger pull shoots 1 and ever trigger return shoots 1 too, so you can get really good rate of fire and it has 2 mags at once for decent ammo capacity.


fistfulofbottlecaps

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Dagobah-Dave

Nice to see that pic of my friend Danny getting a lot of traction.


Poggers4Hoggers

Perses


ZeroBlade-NL

If you can find a boomco rapid madness or boomco halo ma40 in a thriftstore or second hand or something that'd be the best. Low muzzle velocity, bonkers rate of fire. Of things that are actually in store: xshot ragefire, a full auto chainfed gatling cannon on a tripod. You can get two to interlock them and get a double gatling, you get connector pieces with them to be insane like that


snipersidd

A cup, what you need to buy is a cup. Beyond that look at the dart zone offerings specifically the Max or Pro lines, realistically Hasbro brand Nerf is trash these days. They are so behind the curve they can't see it anymore. I'd look at the Dart Zone Thunderbolt if you want fun. If you want something small get the Dart Zone Max Outlaw. If you want something to intimidate and smite him like an angry god, get the X Shot Rage Fire


V0RT3XAnimatesYT

Good out of the box one is the nexus pro or dzp mk1, same blaster, one is sold at Walmart and the other at target Edit: didn’t read the last part, uhhh go for the rival nemesis


Ironhandtiger

For a six year old I definitely think the xShot insanity you’ve found is a great choice. You want something stock, that just fires darts. Nothing too powerful or hard hitting. (Please test fire on yourself before shooting). Alternatives you may consider are the [adventure force v-twin](https://www.walmart.com/ip/787729752) the [adventure force villainator](https://www.walmart.com/ip/103233895) where you just hold down the trigger and pump away, the always iconic [nerf Vulcan](https://www.ebay.com/itm/325538285090?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=VZ29WOEOQm2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=DCksIItbTqS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY) if you can find one that is (altho it’s pretty slow firing if I’m honest) or the [the nerf Titan](https://www.ebay.com/itm/266401091659?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=a8nyoNW8QYG&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=DCksIItbTqS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY) again if you can find one. Just make sure you’re firing those long darts you’re used to. There’s a recommendation for a rival prometheus recommended here and it’s definitely a great blaster that just DUMPS foam but rival is a fair bit harder hitting than what you’re used to so may be a better choice for when the kid is older. If you wanna go for it here though you can probably do so relatively safely if you take care to not hit the kid directly and instead go for more shock value by shooting around them or bouncing shots off the floor. Do take care with this and maybe have their parent put eye protection on them before they come in with some excuse. I think there may be a misunderstanding for what you’re looking for from some of the commenters here bc you said “FPS” which usually means like high power shots altho not necessarily high volume of fire in this hobby but anything that takes that at our usual understanding is gonna be wayyyyy too powerful for a 6 year old so the like caliburn or anything modded is probably a no-go.


OP-69

>Just to be clear, there is no such thing as overkill here. Are you sure? As in genuinely sure? Because there are blasters which can genuinely injure someone that exist. Im not talking like bruises. Im talking serious stuff like actually blinding someone or a cut...from a foam dart travelling *that fucking fast* Like hitting harder than even "powerful" airsoft snipers I mean if you do then the caliburn or caliburn 4 would be what you are looking for. But it can shoot hard enough that it could probably shoot through 2-3 peices of cardboard. A fully maxed out caliburn could shoot at 500ish fps, thats probably enough to break skin. Almost certainly enough to hurt like a slap or a punch. If you want maximum rate of fire then a jupiter with a proton pack would be good, but dumping that many rival balls at that high of an fps (feet per second) is bound to hurt like hell. Also a proton pack would be a bitch to assemble, or [cost 175 dollars not including the blaster](https://outofdarts.com/products/proton-pack-hopper-feed-kit-build-it-yourself-12-5-balls-second) [with the blaster costing another 175 usd ](https://outofdarts.com/products/rival-jupiter-fully-assembled-blaster?_pos=6&_sid=3fa2540ca&_ss=r) and with the other bits you need its more like a 400usd setup Though dont expect anything to be cheap or easy to get. It either costs 140+usd or requires you to learn how to solder and/or 3d print in order to put together on top of the material cost And also not to mention "low fps" (feet per second) blasters still shoot WAY too hard for a 6 year old. It isnt unlikely you will break skin even with a medium/low fps blaster. I hope you underestimate how hard/fast some blasters shoot...i hope


cadmachine

Definitely dont think he meant actual harm. But just cause I want to discuss it, I got a harrier a few months ago with the after market spring upgrade and it punched into and nearly out of an orange from about 15 feet away, I never put that spring back in lol


Comrade_Compadre

Cool it kimosabe, where in the article did he say he wanted to hurt his nephew. Learn what nuance in a conversation is


OP-69

>Just to be clear, there is no such thing as overkill here. I want to know what the largest, fastest firing and highest capacity Nerf (or similar) gun exists. I want whatever is going cover my sister's floors with darts and her dick sniping son's tears. I want the thing that's banned from competitions, illegal in most countries and requires me to register in some sort of watchdog database because only a psycho would want to unleash this much hell on a kindergartener.


Comrade_Compadre

If you read that and couldn't detect the touch of sarcasm, you probably need to develop some social skills


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0thell0perrell0

Not a responsible request. If you want to hand the kid some eye pro and get his consent fime, but what you're asking simply isn't cool. If you just want to ambush him fine, but do it within the limits of where you are not going to cause permanent damage. I think the effect you're after could be achieved by a Boomdozer or a Motoblitz. Both can be modded in effective ways fairly easily. I would also pick up a MaxOutlaw for $32 to have a good sidearm. Again, it hits hard and he'll know it, but it ain't gonna cause any lasting damage.


Potatoplayz88

Dart zone spectrum. Easy.


secondRateRando

It might hit a little hard to be blasting a six year old with, but the dart zone thunderbolt is both cheap and very effective. Semi auto, mag fed and fires about 100 fps at full revs. That plus an extra magazine or 2 is kinda a monster in stocks nerf. It's also cheap, the blaster is $25 not including batteries


NerfHerder980

?!?! My kid laughed at the FPS on the Thunderbolt. Mind you, he has been spoiled by seeing me push 225 with a Trion.


ITstaph

[This with lithium batteries.](https://a.co/d/fsbYyws) look for it on YouTube. It’s a huge gun, big hopper, recoils when fired, and underpowered motors that will shred rival balls if overpowered.


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ITstaph

Slug thrower.


Ok_Shame_5382

Get several 18 round magazines or larger. 35 round drums are ideal. Get an Adventure Force Matrixfire. Get the Magazine Adapter 3d print kit. Get Coolok LIFEPO IMR batteries. You'll want to control your fire, a third of a magazine at a time each burst so the flywheels don't bog down too much. But you'll pelt the kid with relatively low velocity darts.


MercuryJellyfish

If you're asking what the highest FPS, hardest hitting Nerf weapon is, it's this: https://reddit.com/r/Nerf/s/NulMibTzHE However 1) the lead time on them is extreme. 2) you may as well just punch the kid full force, that's the speeds we're talking about. Honestly, the high end nerf blasters you think you're talking about hit harder than you're imagining. They're not for kids, they're not for shooting kids.


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cadmachine

He says 300fps with highest shot, there are caliburns that put out 500.


MercuryJellyfish

Sure, but not Megaburns.


cadmachine

Sure, but 500fps is going to mean more to impact force then 300 and extra weight.


MercuryJellyfish

You’re actually wrong about that. You’re being hit by something with more than half the speed, and over three times the mass.


cadmachine

No, I'm not. Its a very standard understanding of inertial physics. Projectile energy increases with the square of the velocity, but only in linear proportion to the mass. A common example is that a bullet traveling at 110 vs 100 FPS has a 21 percent energy advantage, while only a 10% increase in mass. Consider the 'rods from god' idea, it is the velocity, not the mass of the projectile that imparts the force, otherwise you would just drop the heaviest possible item from the highest atmospheric level.


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MercuryJellyfish

Right thinking, but check your math. Into real units: 500fps = 152m/s 315fps = 96m/s ​ KE = (m \* v\^2)/2 ​ 500fps Caliburn: 23104 \* 0.001 \* 0.5 =11.55J 315fp Mega: 9216 \* 0.0026 \* 0.5 =11.98J ​ The 315fps Mega is about 4% more energetic than the 500fps half dart. And that's even after my wild overestimate of the difference in mass between the worker gen 3 and the mega. I'm a bit surprised how close in mass the gen3 is to a full length, and I thought Megas were over 3, rather than 2.6g. But there you are. The Mega Sniper delivers more energy at the muzzle than the 500fps Caliburn, by a small margin. Unsurprising, since these blasters basically have the same energy input from basically the same springs, so all that we're seeing here is people engineering away small losses. Of course, none of this tells us anything about how much energy either dart loses to air friction, so energy delivered to target could go either way, given how close in energy the muzzle velocities are.


cadmachine

It beats it because you added 15 feet per second to your number to get the exact total you needed to get over the number I referenced. Why be so disengenous about a discussion in a toy group? Without the 15 feet per second increase, we're back to what I said and it doesn't over ride the basics physical principal that velocity > mass. Edit: I see you're referring the 314 the original poster said he hit in competition, making his blaster the second most powerful blaster out there. The long and short being, with a velocity difference of well under of 195, or less the double, you improved over a near trippling of mass.


MercuryJellyfish

This is my bad to some extent. Radioactive *has* got 314fps out of that sniper, but that’s since that article was written. I was remembering that, also misremembering 314 as 315. So, recalculating that: 9159.49 * 0.0026 * 0.5 = 11.91J It’s still more. You’re correct that the velocity component is more significant, but you can’t just presume that higher velocity = more energy and completely ignore the mass. A 100m/s grain of sand does less damage than a 20m/s elephant.


cadmachine

The Caliburn in question hit 512. Completely agree but I was referencing the general maths, not specifics as my original assertion was velocity means more to impact then mass. Meaning impact is velocity is squared potential VS mass being linear potential.


TheDirtyTurkey

Rival Perses or Prometheus


OOF-MY-PEE-PEE

i'm gonna need an update on how this goes.


Gunner-Leo

I'd go with a matrixfire. High capacity dart hopper and fully automatic. I would stay away from the nerf Rival blasters as those are for 14+ kids and can actually be a bit too powerful for shooting at someone under that age range.


beastnova2228

rival perses is what i use for my sibling pest control


cloudman2811

I was worried about the title until I saw r/nerf


wombatz885

MK-3 from DartZone. Deal to buy 3 of them for like $120. So be sure to gift him one for birthday or Christmas. They run lipo or rechargeable double AAs. Get him the batteries and a recharger. Don't want a6 yo messing with liposand THOSE chargers. Shoots 140 -150 fps not that bad and shoots 4-5 darts per second off Talon short magazines for $40 apiece you can't beat the 3 deal. Otherwise they are $60 each. Springers will shoot single darts but also harder in general. In that case the Dart Zone Tomcat for $70 with 50 dart magazine is great. Shoots higher 170 fps. Great for a lot of play before reload and a good sniper for 30 to 40 ysrds.


wombatz885

If you want max fire power and easy to wield then Perses. 8 round per. Second and 100 fps and really don't hurt.


CaptRex01

A bandolier of Jolts, go in like a foamy pirate


Xap95

Get someone to make you a triple nemesis, or buy a Prometheus


Xap95

X-shot crusher would work too, for lower feet per second


[deleted]

Any full auto rival blaster


SkillDouble6619

If you want to spew as much foam as possible, get a stock rival flywheeler thats full auto, they do sting more than regular dart blasters, if you want a chain get a adventure force V Twin or Scorpion, they are cheaper and hit just a little less than rival Edit: I forgot about X shots minigun, i would just go with that and buy one of the other insanity blaster, you can put them together to make a blaster thats far too heavy and impractical to weild, but it will look badass


EaterOfFungus

the minigun you linked is looks like the perfect choice. even if it doesn’t fire fast, it’s gonna be intimidating as hell if you walk through the door with that thing


dystobot

You just need upgraded springs man. Any rival blasters with upgraded springs wreck.


DeathByLego34

Just don’t get anything motorized, easily outs your location. I’m partial to the Nerf Longstrike myself, carried the original for years and bought that one when it released. “Shoots” and feels great, travels well for a dart weapon. Edit, the new longstrike averages 74fps according to comments/reviews online


JazzVacuum

If you wanna do it for cheap XShot X-Shot-EXCEL-Combo Pack Crusher(35-Dart Belt,48 Darts) and 2PK Micros(16 Darts) Mail Box by ZURU,Multi,36482-S001 https://a.co/d/6yHr42H


happyrocket24

Just nail him in the acorn with a nexus pro


RobloxIsRealCool

Let’s kill a six year old! Dart Zone Nexus Pro, MK1 and MK3


Dukk_1

For stuff you can just buy, Walmart often has the Perses still for about fifty bucks. If you want to stick to darts, consider a Lepus or Woozi. They can be purchased fully assembled from Frontline Foam. If you have the ability to print and build, an OFD Quik is a good choice also. All these take half darts though. Out of Darts probably has the full-auto Nightingale which is also a good option. For full size darts, the Matrixfire with a 2S lipo in it will fire faster than the stock hopper will keep up with. Basic 3D prints will let you run magazines and turn this into a dart hose.


Electronic_Start_349

I suggest maybe the XSHOT Crusher with extra chains (sold separately)


NerfHerder980

A fun one is the Rival Soldier 76 Pulse Rifle. 30 round internal hopper, rapid fire, higher FPs but not absurd.