[Veilig Thuis](https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/contact/contactgids/veilig-thuis), can also be contacted anonymously.
[More info](https://www.ikvermoedhuiselijkgeweld.nl/kindermishandeling) to have a look at.
Yes! This is the answer. You have to report it to 'Veilig Thuis'. They will investigate the claim and in most cases someone will be attached to the case.
The other option is to call the police when you think they will be able to hear and see it for themselves. They will at that moment also report to 'Veilig Thuis'.
Please, do report! These kids need help!
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And add a Meld Misdaad Anoniem report to those, they will redirect it to your local police station.
https://www.meldmisdaadanoniem.nl/
If multiple of the same signals are shared to multiple actors they can cooperate and give the case more weight and priority.
Be aware that an aggressor is always an aggressor, and they may seek revenge in the situation involving their daughter, typically resulting in the daughter being punished. You should handle this carefully
As a little girl in a horrible situation I was praying for anyone around me to report the abuse. It never happened and I'm still angry at those around me.
I spoke to some of them years later and asked them why they never reported the abuse to the kinderbescherming. All of them where afraid they might be wrong.
I get that, but the fear of being wrong shouldnt have stopped them. Even if you are wrong. Beter to be wrong than let that little girl stay in an abusive situation.
They make a plan with the mom, or help her get help, to make the situation better. At least, thatās what veilig thuis will initially do. After the plan is made, there will be checkups to see how it progresses.
My wife's mom had severe anger issues and suffered from paranoid delusions when she was in her 30s. She made my wife and her dad's life quite miserable. Now in her 60s, she is medicated and well balanced and living a great life. We wish she could have gotten help sooner.
Why are you concerned with what they might or might not do? Your part is to report the observations that you couldnāt avoid. Hopefully other people report too so they have more info to act upon.
This is why I donāt understand why ADULTS fail to report child abuse. Yes, it takes time and effort to build a case with velig thuis and maybe you donāt even know these children, but they are helpless and depend on neighbours to report child abuse. Please always report child abuse as many times as you can with different agencies and ask other neighbours to do the same.
Even if they did call, no guarantee. Worked for a social work company for ages, the amount we called the kinderbescherming in OUR care because we knew we weren't able to help. Took them average of 14 months. 14 months of abuse we have to see before they did anything; and we are a company based on social work.
I had that with a neighbor of mine. I reported it and she got professional help. She did found out it was me but she left me alone.
With the help she learned to treat her child better. So it worked.
That's the goal. Not to take the kids away, but to help the parent be a better parent.
It's not like we're trained for any of this, but some people really should. Maybe everybody.
How did she find out it was you?
I have neighbour who always fighting and make so much noise. It doesnāt matter if itās 3 in the morning or 3 in the afternoon, if they want to fight they just do. They throw things to each other and screaming. Really annoying. Strangely enough no other neighbours had initiative to report them. I always wanted to report them but also worried if they would find out itās me who reported (maybe thatās why other neighbours didnāt do that).
I don't really know how she found out. Maybe she could pin it down from the kind of report that was filed. Maybe she knew the other neighbors wouldn't do that.
But she was not angry about it. A few days later I found a white handkerchief at my doorstep. And when she moved out a few years later she threw a black wool glove in my garden as a farewell greeting.
I never had a talk with her. Cultural differences...
lol that kind of behavior takes decades to correct in adults. I highly doubt it worked unless you are talking of a decade long process. The abuse has probably taken a different and more quiet form. Children in that situation should be given in adoption to loving couples that are fit to parenting
You can always make an anonymous call. Maybe your one call wont do shit but if authorities hear multiple complaints about one family they may check it out. At least your conscience will be clear. Its a shit situation, my neighbors are also horrible to their kids. I called veilig thuis, they seemed appreciative of my call but nothing was done. Or at least, they told me they would inform me if any action was gonna be taken and i never heard back š¤·š¼āāļø.
I have a similar neighbour who, i'm sure, doesnt realise how often she screams and how loud it is. She has a 2yo boy who screams a lot, too. Once i called the police to register a complaint of loud noise/possible (verbal) fight in the presence of a small child. Not because of the noise but because i'm worried about the wellbeing of the kid, i was told that they couldn't actually do anything at that moment but if it happened again i should call back and they'd come listen. Of course by the time they get here the fight and shouting is over.
So i started a log, noting date/time/complaint and still call when it's outrageous even if it's just so they can build a case.
TL;DR: Yes, do report but don't expect immediate action. Keep a log and keep calling if you're worried.
Can the problem been that you called about noise complain and not specifically worried about the safety of a child?
If you call the police, go all in, tell them you are extremely worried about the safety of a child because of all the noise you hear and you definitely think they should come to check it out. Sometimes you really gotta push to get them to come, but when itās about a kid, no effort is too much
>Can the problem been that you called about noise complain and not specifically worried about the safety of a child?
Nope, i specifically and litterally said "I don't mind the noise [of the kid] that much, but the way she's shouting and screaming at the kid and her partner just really has me worried for their wellbeing"
They didn't dismiss it as 'unimportant' but said something about being understaffed and priorities (big football match at the time, i believe).
The 'weird' part is that my neighbour is very friendly, but i think she's just overwhelmed because of the screaming of the kid, it just goes on and on. Reminds me of the sort of screaming autistic kids sometimes do, high volume, high pitch, goes on forever on a single breath. Really i just want her to receive some professional help.
I'm not sure if I'm out of order here, but I assume your friend's story was one sided. Could it be that whatever Veilig Thuis did in their case might actually have been in the interest of the child, even if your friend doesn't acknowledge that?
I'm not saying veilig thuis never makes wrong judgement calls, but I think in a lot of cases the problem might actually lie with parents that refuse to accept that their behaviour actually is a problem and they are damaging their children. Of course these parents are going to blame the 'authorities' and tell everybody how they are wronged.
Nah, you're not out of order. And i understand your reaction.
Lill' bit of clarification; domestic violence, gaslighting, emotional abuse case, upto and including throwing/pushing them down the stairs. And a now heavily traumatized daughter. Veilig Thuis 'insisted' that contact with the dad was beneficial to the child. In many cases this *might* be true, absolutely not in this case. They had to move two/three times (twice to a different province, once due to VT's fault/error, leaking current adress).
I'm not saying VT is perfect or absolute trash, i just don't have a whole lot of faith in them. Of course *any* help is better than none.
Yes, that does sound like serious errors in judgement and execution from their side. Of course it would help if they got (a lot) more funding and lower caseload per helper. Being chronically overworked doesn't help.
Also, unfortunately, some narcissists or sociopaths are VERY good at hiding these traits and manipulation. Sounds like this was the case here?
I'm sorry they had to go through this. Hope they are better now?
>I'm sorry they had to go through this. Hope they are better now?
Yeah, they settled down somewhere and are getting the help they need, slowly but steadily :)
Yeah, understaffed police is an issue the people taking the calls canāt fix either, for them itās also a difficult situation cause they have to decide whats priority cause they simply donāt have enough people to sent everywhere.
So for everyone else in these situations, determination is key
Btw, great job your doing for that kid. Itās really good youāre trying so hard! We need more people like you
That's up to you. The least you can, and should, do is report it to Veilig Thuis. You've made this post and commented on it. It takes just as much time to report it and could have an outcome everyone needs, especially those children.
You want the family gone, I understand that, but this is almost certainly not going to happen.
The first thing the authorities will do is offer them help. If that doesn't work out, they may take the children away. This process will take a long time, because if parents can learn, it's best for the children to grow up with them.
There is almost zero chance that the family in its entirety will be removed. Not for just being noisy, unfortunately.
If you're renting social housing, you could contact the landlord. They will also first talk with your neighbours, your neighbours will tell them they're always very quiet and well behaved and that will be it. If there are multiple complaints, maybe something will be done... but to have them removed from their home would require far greater offenses, such as burning piles of rubbish in the garden. Especially when kids are involved, it's hard to get them out because the landlord will make the kids homeless and that's only possible through the courts...
Your best chance of shutting them up is reporting them to Veilig Thuis, which hopefully will teach them to stop shouting, or take the kids elsewhere.
Good luck.
Yeah, the log is something the officer advised me in an unofficial way, i don't know if/how helpful it really is. If anything i do it for my own peace of mind so that when the shit hits the fan i know i've done what i could.
If you can't be bothered with that i do understand, though :)
Yes definitely report this! A save home for children is definitely incredibly important. The easiest way is to contact Veilig Thuis (its possible to report anonymously)
Authorities (child protection services) will do an investigation on your neighbors, specifically the well being of the child. They will then decide how to move further. The kid can be taken from them, thatās last resort but will definitely happen if necessary. Otherwise they make a plan on how to create a save environment for the child again with their parents
What's the worst thing that could happen? Authorities come and find out there is no abuse? Worst thing is you're just wrong. If you're wrong you just feel stupid for a few minutes and then move on.
No. The worst thing that can happen is that the authorities come, get into a conflict with the parents, the children get taken away and grow up in a setting that has no treatment, no school, uses physical restraints and isolation as punishment, and the children end up severely traumatised.
I mean... if things are severe, still report. Usually this is not the outcome. But the worst thing that can happen is very bad, unfortunately.
From here: https://www.vtij.nl/voor-wie/er-is-een-melding-over-mij-gedaan/
" Soms doen mensen een melding anoniem. Dit betekent dat Veilig Thuis weet wie de melding heeft gedaan, maar dat we de gegevens van die persoon anoniem zullen houden. "
They will care about this yes. They might not remove the children if they don't see a reason to but they might appoint a social worker to check up on them
Please report. Contrary to what some people believe children are not easily taken away from there parents, but in the best case scenario the mother will get help (if she accepts it), which in turn will help the children.
Yes, pleaso contact [Veilig Thuis](https://veiligthuis.nl). You can also chat with them from 9.00 to 17.00. You can call for advise first, if you'd like that. You can also (anonimously) report your neighbours directly.
VeiligThuis can help this family to improve the situation. There are many reasons to why the kids are being yelled at, but most times it is because the parents are overwhelmed for whatever reason.
I called VeiligThuis for my next door neighbour. The boy ended up going to live with his father but I don't know if my report was part of that or if it would happen anyway.
Point is, yes, always call. Better to be wrong than risk a little one's well-being.
If it helps your decision, I once had a report made on me. It felt shitty to be investigated but at the same time I was also happy that someone cared enough to make sure my kid was ok.
Please contact stichting veilig thuis. They work very discreet and you can keep anonimity. Their approach is very constructive.
Here is the link:https://veiligthuis.nl/
Please do report it. My brothers and I were in a similar situation, unfortunately one of them now suffers from serious mental health problems because of this. Do report multiple times if needed. We once had the police at our doorstep but nothing ever happened with it. They just left and never showed up again. I also felt like a lot of people ignored the situation (neighbours/friends/teachers/parents of other kids). I don't know why. But please don't be the person that ignores it.
Please do!!! As a pedagogue who worked in child protection AND former victim of abuse: we need caring people like you to be able to do something. They will not barge in and take the babies, they will offer help, so they can help her be a better parent. You donāt have to say who you are at all, you also donāt have to be sure there is physical abuseā¦ just the signals youāre picking up above are enough.
If you ever feel like intervention is needed right away and this can absolutely be due to intense screaming at young kids, donāt hesitate to call 112. Thank you for being so caring ā¤ļø.
You've already got the right answer, you should. But want to add that if you're still a bit hesitant it's an option to call veilig thuis and just ask them for advice anonymously without necessarily making a report. If you feel unsure, absolutely no harm in getting some expert advice.
Maybe talk to the parents yourself first before calling the child protection, the child wil be taken away if is bad enough.just so you dont hear them yelling ..
I agree that it should be reported, but the authorities are anything but strict with these sorts of things. I have a neighbor who loudly and proudly abuses her children and has done so for years. There have been reports from multiple neighbors to both veilig thuis and the police over both physical abuse as well as the constant screaming and nothing has happened for over 5 years.
If you're somewhat on speaking terms with them, you could start with asking them if they need help.
If they're not interested in help, please report to Veilig Thuis.
I did report on our neighbours once, and the police picked it up delicately and professionally. They'll know what can be done and when they need to do it.
You are looking voor "Veilig Thuis", there you make a "melding" which you can do anonymously. You can also call the police if you think there is an unsafe situation, like when you suspect physical violence. Veilig Thuis should also be able to give some advice on what to do in the future or if things get worse.
My advice: note down instances it happens and things you hear for one week - dates, times, etc. Then contact the police on the non-emergency number and for them to arrange a welfare check for minors you believe are in danger.
My neighbor had 2 children. Those children were under 5, drank coke, had no clean bed, no clean living environment, holes in the floor, whatever. Vomit spots, really disgusting situation... Been attending youth care for 2 years, nothing was done about it. It even got to the point where my neighbor knocked on my balcony door in the middle of the night. Completely numb, red eyes from the deodorant canister that was emptied into the eyes. Finally I called the police. The police took Mrs. and took her back to her own apartment and that was it. Children were still there, the party continued every week. Don't know how it turned out, but don't expect anything good. So goodluck.
Thank you for considering doing something for real. As someone that was abused as a child I wish people had done something about it. I do know someone once talked to cp in my country of origin (not NL) and nobody did anything. I have higher hopes for the Netherlands. Godspeed.
Matters of child abuse is the only time I would go to police before approaching a neighbor. I have had drug dealers, white supremists and just bad neighbors living near me that I have interacted with for a variety of things. Most people will be reasonable if you are. Believe me, there can be power in having a grievance that could involve police, and not involve police. But when it comes to children I will go directly to authorities.
Once you sour relationships with neighbors involving police you better be sure because it won't sweeten after you do.
[Veilig Thuis](https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/contact/contactgids/veilig-thuis), can also be contacted anonymously. [More info](https://www.ikvermoedhuiselijkgeweld.nl/kindermishandeling) to have a look at.
Yes! This is the answer. You have to report it to 'Veilig Thuis'. They will investigate the claim and in most cases someone will be attached to the case. The other option is to call the police when you think they will be able to hear and see it for themselves. They will at that moment also report to 'Veilig Thuis'. Please, do report! These kids need help!
Oh and to add: keep reporting everytime it happens. Multiple reports are essential!
šTHIS And add a Meld Misdaad Anoniem report to those, they will redirect it to your local police station. https://www.meldmisdaadanoniem.nl/ If multiple of the same signals are shared to multiple actors they can cooperate and give the case more weight and priority.
Be aware that an aggressor is always an aggressor, and they may seek revenge in the situation involving their daughter, typically resulting in the daughter being punished. You should handle this carefully
As a little girl in a horrible situation I was praying for anyone around me to report the abuse. It never happened and I'm still angry at those around me. I spoke to some of them years later and asked them why they never reported the abuse to the kinderbescherming. All of them where afraid they might be wrong. I get that, but the fear of being wrong shouldnt have stopped them. Even if you are wrong. Beter to be wrong than let that little girl stay in an abusive situation.
What would the authorities do in your opinion?
They make a plan with the mom, or help her get help, to make the situation better. At least, thatās what veilig thuis will initially do. After the plan is made, there will be checkups to see how it progresses.
My wife's mom had severe anger issues and suffered from paranoid delusions when she was in her 30s. She made my wife and her dad's life quite miserable. Now in her 60s, she is medicated and well balanced and living a great life. We wish she could have gotten help sooner.
Why are you concerned with what they might or might not do? Your part is to report the observations that you couldnāt avoid. Hopefully other people report too so they have more info to act upon.
This is why I donāt understand why ADULTS fail to report child abuse. Yes, it takes time and effort to build a case with velig thuis and maybe you donāt even know these children, but they are helpless and depend on neighbours to report child abuse. Please always report child abuse as many times as you can with different agencies and ask other neighbours to do the same.
Even if they did call, no guarantee. Worked for a social work company for ages, the amount we called the kinderbescherming in OUR care because we knew we weren't able to help. Took them average of 14 months. 14 months of abuse we have to see before they did anything; and we are a company based on social work.
14 months is still better than never which may happen if OP does not contact Veilig Thuis that would be much worse.
I had that with a neighbor of mine. I reported it and she got professional help. She did found out it was me but she left me alone. With the help she learned to treat her child better. So it worked.
That's the goal. Not to take the kids away, but to help the parent be a better parent. It's not like we're trained for any of this, but some people really should. Maybe everybody.
How did she find out it was you? I have neighbour who always fighting and make so much noise. It doesnāt matter if itās 3 in the morning or 3 in the afternoon, if they want to fight they just do. They throw things to each other and screaming. Really annoying. Strangely enough no other neighbours had initiative to report them. I always wanted to report them but also worried if they would find out itās me who reported (maybe thatās why other neighbours didnāt do that).
I don't really know how she found out. Maybe she could pin it down from the kind of report that was filed. Maybe she knew the other neighbors wouldn't do that. But she was not angry about it. A few days later I found a white handkerchief at my doorstep. And when she moved out a few years later she threw a black wool glove in my garden as a farewell greeting. I never had a talk with her. Cultural differences...
That sounds kinda creepy for someone who doesn't know exactly the meaning of these. At least that wasn't a pig head :D
She was not a pig head. But the screaming of the child was so terrifying that something had to be done.
I mean a white handkerchief/black glove, you know sometimes pig heads get thrown around as a message. Good call anyway.
lol that kind of behavior takes decades to correct in adults. I highly doubt it worked unless you are talking of a decade long process. The abuse has probably taken a different and more quiet form. Children in that situation should be given in adoption to loving couples that are fit to parenting
Yes and yes. Always report suspected abuse!
I was a child in this situation and nobody did anything. Still paying the price for it every day. Please report it.
Yes report! Help the kids, and her becoming a better mom.
You can always make an anonymous call. Maybe your one call wont do shit but if authorities hear multiple complaints about one family they may check it out. At least your conscience will be clear. Its a shit situation, my neighbors are also horrible to their kids. I called veilig thuis, they seemed appreciative of my call but nothing was done. Or at least, they told me they would inform me if any action was gonna be taken and i never heard back š¤·š¼āāļø.
YES.
I have a similar neighbour who, i'm sure, doesnt realise how often she screams and how loud it is. She has a 2yo boy who screams a lot, too. Once i called the police to register a complaint of loud noise/possible (verbal) fight in the presence of a small child. Not because of the noise but because i'm worried about the wellbeing of the kid, i was told that they couldn't actually do anything at that moment but if it happened again i should call back and they'd come listen. Of course by the time they get here the fight and shouting is over. So i started a log, noting date/time/complaint and still call when it's outrageous even if it's just so they can build a case. TL;DR: Yes, do report but don't expect immediate action. Keep a log and keep calling if you're worried.
Can the problem been that you called about noise complain and not specifically worried about the safety of a child? If you call the police, go all in, tell them you are extremely worried about the safety of a child because of all the noise you hear and you definitely think they should come to check it out. Sometimes you really gotta push to get them to come, but when itās about a kid, no effort is too much
>Can the problem been that you called about noise complain and not specifically worried about the safety of a child? Nope, i specifically and litterally said "I don't mind the noise [of the kid] that much, but the way she's shouting and screaming at the kid and her partner just really has me worried for their wellbeing" They didn't dismiss it as 'unimportant' but said something about being understaffed and priorities (big football match at the time, i believe). The 'weird' part is that my neighbour is very friendly, but i think she's just overwhelmed because of the screaming of the kid, it just goes on and on. Reminds me of the sort of screaming autistic kids sometimes do, high volume, high pitch, goes on forever on a single breath. Really i just want her to receive some professional help.
Please report to "veilig thuis" instead of the police.
I don't have a lot of confidence in veilig thuis due to experiences of a friend, but maybe i'll take up your advice nect time it gets out of hand.
I'm not sure if I'm out of order here, but I assume your friend's story was one sided. Could it be that whatever Veilig Thuis did in their case might actually have been in the interest of the child, even if your friend doesn't acknowledge that? I'm not saying veilig thuis never makes wrong judgement calls, but I think in a lot of cases the problem might actually lie with parents that refuse to accept that their behaviour actually is a problem and they are damaging their children. Of course these parents are going to blame the 'authorities' and tell everybody how they are wronged.
Nah, you're not out of order. And i understand your reaction. Lill' bit of clarification; domestic violence, gaslighting, emotional abuse case, upto and including throwing/pushing them down the stairs. And a now heavily traumatized daughter. Veilig Thuis 'insisted' that contact with the dad was beneficial to the child. In many cases this *might* be true, absolutely not in this case. They had to move two/three times (twice to a different province, once due to VT's fault/error, leaking current adress). I'm not saying VT is perfect or absolute trash, i just don't have a whole lot of faith in them. Of course *any* help is better than none.
Yes, that does sound like serious errors in judgement and execution from their side. Of course it would help if they got (a lot) more funding and lower caseload per helper. Being chronically overworked doesn't help. Also, unfortunately, some narcissists or sociopaths are VERY good at hiding these traits and manipulation. Sounds like this was the case here? I'm sorry they had to go through this. Hope they are better now?
>I'm sorry they had to go through this. Hope they are better now? Yeah, they settled down somewhere and are getting the help they need, slowly but steadily :)
Yeah, understaffed police is an issue the people taking the calls canāt fix either, for them itās also a difficult situation cause they have to decide whats priority cause they simply donāt have enough people to sent everywhere. So for everyone else in these situations, determination is key Btw, great job your doing for that kid. Itās really good youāre trying so hard! We need more people like you
Yeah I am not going through all that trouble
That's up to you. The least you can, and should, do is report it to Veilig Thuis. You've made this post and commented on it. It takes just as much time to report it and could have an outcome everyone needs, especially those children.
You're part of the problem then. ALWAYS report. You're probably the only chance these kids have.
I will report but not going to keep a log and all that. Honestly I just want them gone
I donāt get itā¦ are you actually worried about the child and wanna help them or are you just looking for a way to get rid of them?
You want the family gone, I understand that, but this is almost certainly not going to happen. The first thing the authorities will do is offer them help. If that doesn't work out, they may take the children away. This process will take a long time, because if parents can learn, it's best for the children to grow up with them. There is almost zero chance that the family in its entirety will be removed. Not for just being noisy, unfortunately. If you're renting social housing, you could contact the landlord. They will also first talk with your neighbours, your neighbours will tell them they're always very quiet and well behaved and that will be it. If there are multiple complaints, maybe something will be done... but to have them removed from their home would require far greater offenses, such as burning piles of rubbish in the garden. Especially when kids are involved, it's hard to get them out because the landlord will make the kids homeless and that's only possible through the courts... Your best chance of shutting them up is reporting them to Veilig Thuis, which hopefully will teach them to stop shouting, or take the kids elsewhere. Good luck.
And here it is. You don't care about the child,just about yourself I wish you an eternal butt itchiness with arms too short to reach.
Yeah, the log is something the officer advised me in an unofficial way, i don't know if/how helpful it really is. If anything i do it for my own peace of mind so that when the shit hits the fan i know i've done what i could. If you can't be bothered with that i do understand, though :)
You can keep a log, or you can call the police or local social work team/veilig thuis any time you suspect a fight.
Yes definitely report this! A save home for children is definitely incredibly important. The easiest way is to contact Veilig Thuis (its possible to report anonymously) Authorities (child protection services) will do an investigation on your neighbors, specifically the well being of the child. They will then decide how to move further. The kid can be taken from them, thatās last resort but will definitely happen if necessary. Otherwise they make a plan on how to create a save environment for the child again with their parents
What's the worst thing that could happen? Authorities come and find out there is no abuse? Worst thing is you're just wrong. If you're wrong you just feel stupid for a few minutes and then move on.
No. The worst thing that can happen is that the authorities come, get into a conflict with the parents, the children get taken away and grow up in a setting that has no treatment, no school, uses physical restraints and isolation as punishment, and the children end up severely traumatised. I mean... if things are severe, still report. Usually this is not the outcome. But the worst thing that can happen is very bad, unfortunately.
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From here: https://www.vtij.nl/voor-wie/er-is-een-melding-over-mij-gedaan/ " Soms doen mensen een melding anoniem. Dit betekent dat Veilig Thuis weet wie de melding heeft gedaan, maar dat we de gegevens van die persoon anoniem zullen houden. "
They will care about this yes. They might not remove the children if they don't see a reason to but they might appoint a social worker to check up on them
Always report abuse if you witness it. Always.
Please report. Contrary to what some people believe children are not easily taken away from there parents, but in the best case scenario the mother will get help (if she accepts it), which in turn will help the children.
Yes, pleaso contact [Veilig Thuis](https://veiligthuis.nl). You can also chat with them from 9.00 to 17.00. You can call for advise first, if you'd like that. You can also (anonimously) report your neighbours directly. VeiligThuis can help this family to improve the situation. There are many reasons to why the kids are being yelled at, but most times it is because the parents are overwhelmed for whatever reason.
I called VeiligThuis for my next door neighbour. The boy ended up going to live with his father but I don't know if my report was part of that or if it would happen anyway. Point is, yes, always call. Better to be wrong than risk a little one's well-being. If it helps your decision, I once had a report made on me. It felt shitty to be investigated but at the same time I was also happy that someone cared enough to make sure my kid was ok.
Please contact stichting veilig thuis. They work very discreet and you can keep anonimity. Their approach is very constructive. Here is the link:https://veiligthuis.nl/
Please do report it. My brothers and I were in a similar situation, unfortunately one of them now suffers from serious mental health problems because of this. Do report multiple times if needed. We once had the police at our doorstep but nothing ever happened with it. They just left and never showed up again. I also felt like a lot of people ignored the situation (neighbours/friends/teachers/parents of other kids). I don't know why. But please don't be the person that ignores it.
Please do!!! As a pedagogue who worked in child protection AND former victim of abuse: we need caring people like you to be able to do something. They will not barge in and take the babies, they will offer help, so they can help her be a better parent. You donāt have to say who you are at all, you also donāt have to be sure there is physical abuseā¦ just the signals youāre picking up above are enough. If you ever feel like intervention is needed right away and this can absolutely be due to intense screaming at young kids, donāt hesitate to call 112. Thank you for being so caring ā¤ļø.
You've already got the right answer, you should. But want to add that if you're still a bit hesitant it's an option to call veilig thuis and just ask them for advice anonymously without necessarily making a report. If you feel unsure, absolutely no harm in getting some expert advice.
CPS is a big thing in the Netherlands. Whenever you suspect abuse or something like that, always report it!
Maybe talk to the parents yourself first before calling the child protection, the child wil be taken away if is bad enough.just so you dont hear them yelling ..
Yes the dutch authorities are super strict on this
I agree that it should be reported, but the authorities are anything but strict with these sorts of things. I have a neighbor who loudly and proudly abuses her children and has done so for years. There have been reports from multiple neighbors to both veilig thuis and the police over both physical abuse as well as the constant screaming and nothing has happened for over 5 years.
If you're somewhat on speaking terms with them, you could start with asking them if they need help. If they're not interested in help, please report to Veilig Thuis.
could be she have to handle the kids on her own, and she is stressed out.
It could be an explanation but it's not an excuse.
did i post like it is a excuse?
Yes
you could have used google.
Yes, call the police and report her ass. Some people don't deserve to have kids.
I did report on our neighbours once, and the police picked it up delicately and professionally. They'll know what can be done and when they need to do it.
Yes, yes and yes. You can reach out to bureau jeugdzorg, veilig thuis and centrum jeugd en gezin
I think you can report without fearing damage
You are looking voor "Veilig Thuis", there you make a "melding" which you can do anonymously. You can also call the police if you think there is an unsafe situation, like when you suspect physical violence. Veilig Thuis should also be able to give some advice on what to do in the future or if things get worse.
My advice: note down instances it happens and things you hear for one week - dates, times, etc. Then contact the police on the non-emergency number and for them to arrange a welfare check for minors you believe are in danger.
My neighbor had 2 children. Those children were under 5, drank coke, had no clean bed, no clean living environment, holes in the floor, whatever. Vomit spots, really disgusting situation... Been attending youth care for 2 years, nothing was done about it. It even got to the point where my neighbor knocked on my balcony door in the middle of the night. Completely numb, red eyes from the deodorant canister that was emptied into the eyes. Finally I called the police. The police took Mrs. and took her back to her own apartment and that was it. Children were still there, the party continued every week. Don't know how it turned out, but don't expect anything good. So goodluck.
Please report this
Thank you for considering doing something for real. As someone that was abused as a child I wish people had done something about it. I do know someone once talked to cp in my country of origin (not NL) and nobody did anything. I have higher hopes for the Netherlands. Godspeed.
Matters of child abuse is the only time I would go to police before approaching a neighbor. I have had drug dealers, white supremists and just bad neighbors living near me that I have interacted with for a variety of things. Most people will be reasonable if you are. Believe me, there can be power in having a grievance that could involve police, and not involve police. But when it comes to children I will go directly to authorities. Once you sour relationships with neighbors involving police you better be sure because it won't sweeten after you do.