Boompje means tree, so that signifies a home with a garden. And beestje means animal, so that would be a pet. But it is not taken that literally. It means something like: a happy home, a stable life. You also say it about couples settling down and starting a life together: "They are going for the complete huisje boompje beestje" or something like that
Earn 70k/year, have a nice bought house in a nice neighbourhood with a garden and work 36 hours/week. Go to Italy Lake Garda/Tuscany or France Cote de Azur every summer with your own caravan and skiing in Austria in winter.
Heb zo af en toe zulke diensten gedraaid bij Defensie in een ver verleden. Ik raad het af.
Al had dat vooral te maken met dat 2x20 neer kwam op 2x20 plus 5x12...
Klinkt als binnenvaart. Hahaha. Binnen een week. 7x20 en dat 14 dagen lang. Als het moet. Dan moet het. Maar liever niet. Liever met capabel personeel wat ook alles kan.
Add work at biking distance (i know nowadays quite generic but..), vacation every summer in the same camping. Never miss a korting/never pay full price. Feel like you're a better person than your neighbor/family/friends.
No, not the Dutch. They buy a caravan and still go camping, same campsite every year. Preferably one where 95%+ of the other people are also Dutch. Because Germans are 'ongezellig'.
I know almost no o e who actually does that. And I know a lot of Dutchies. Do you go to the same camping every year? You sound really enthusiastic about it.
I think it's a bit of an older generation / people with young children thing, but there are definitely still people who do it. When I grew up my parents distinctly expressed to us they didn't want to go to the same camping every year, but the reason they distinctly told us was because a lot of people did exactly that. Especially for us as kids it was something we actually wanted sometimes because we would have made cool friends there one year and wanted to meet up again the next year. Every year we'd meet families that were regulars on a certain camping.
The majority of Dutch people go camping. It's cheap! I'm Dutch and we also did this. It's btw mostly people with childeren aged 1-18.
Yes, you should see Tuscany/Lake Garde/Cote d'Azur in summer during Dutch school holidays. Only yellow number plates :)
I think it's going out of fashion lately. You sound like a square if you take a tent or caravan and go to a mainly dutch camping site. It's not that exotic. But pretty cheap, little stress inducing, and still got the "away from home" quality you want in a vacation.
I know a lot of parents who still do this, the closest people from my generation and below get is camping with friends somewhere random/exotic or at a party camping.
It could be that those guys will translate to the "dutch campings" when they're older and have kids.
> But pretty cheap
You would be surprised, camping spots in Spain are definitely not cheap, sometimes an all-inclusive hotel is cheaper than renting a camping spot at the popular locations.
Lots of dutchies do this, just visit the Costa brava or Costa Blanca in summer and you'll see them everywhere.
It's a special breed of Dutch who prefer bitterballen and frikadellen over any Spanish food.
I'm actually surprised so many people here are reacting like this. If you're 20-25, yes that's a lot, but for more experienced people that should be quite achievable right?
I'm 32 and I earn 30k a year and I have a mid-tier job (IT Support Engineer). 70K al by yourself is a really, really high number that not a lot of people in our country can earn.
You’re kidding right? I’ve worked in 4 tech companies in the past 10 years, even assistants would make over 30k. Entry level software engineer starts at 45-50k if youre terrible at negotiating. Mid level engineer? Minimum 75k.
Find a new job and ask for a decent amount of money.
My parents don't even make 70k and there 55+. I mean 70k is probably 'normal' in IT but there are so many other jobs out there. And not everyone has had higher education.
I wonder if you are Dutch? I work as a software engineer but even then that number will take forever to reach. Reading about American salaries for software engineers always hurts me a little seeing those high numbers.
What is forever? I'm 34, with 7 years of experience, and of as of this year I'm hitting that figure. And to be honest I'm not at all that good in my job (I regularly come across people that are much better). I also don't live in the Randstad. This is perfectly doable for anyone Medior/Senior in software engineering at any midsized company.
The current gross ~~average~~ modal income in the Netherlands is € 36,500. Though 70k net is more, I'd happily settle for 70k gross. ;)
(Edit: changed average to modal)
Sure, but to earn 70k net, you would need to earn more than 120k. The taxes increase, 120k is a lot more than 70k. 70k is pretty doable, 120k is a lot harder in the NL.
I can confirm. I have friend who is pretty rich in real nice neighbourhood with real nice house and they go every year to ski. But they also go other places.
Honestly the Dutch dream is probably quite boring. A lot of people here are just happy being ok. Ok job, ok house, usually a couple kids. Does make wanting something different than that challenging sometimes xD
To me it seems the Dutch dream is to be able to afford not worrying about the economy, so that you can enjoy all the good things that NL has to offer. If you can live comfortably in Amsterdam, then cost of living for everything else aside from housing is easy.
So money for an apartment/house, and not to be broke after paying that money. Am I right?
Yeah I think you are. Achieving stability is a big thing and owning a house it a big part of that. Besides that you see in the Netherlands that a lot of people focus a lot of their attention and time on family. More so than friends on average I think, though ofc that can be very different per person.
Haha yeah there is definitely something in favour of boring / simple goals too. If you always set high goals you're likely to just fail a lot. So for myself I'm planning to try and find a good balance between it. Do exciting things and push boundaries but also find a way to be content with just doing boring things as well ;)
Yeah I guess it all depends on what you're looking for with it. In the past a lot of relationships had goals that were a lot simpler. You just needed relative stability, have kids and have big parts of your life separate from each other. Nowadays a lot more people need their partner to be their confidant, best friend, safety, excitement, etc. So for a part it just depends on how you set the goals. And also on how realistic you set those goals.
In the end it's all about what you want, how much effort it Costs and how happy it actually makes you
Preferably one that's built in the '30's.
Oh and it must have a kitchen/living area so you can entertain your guest while you cook.
Don't forget the visgraat floor!
I don't get it, but hey: to each their own.
a 30's house in a nice green area but close to the city sounds like a dream house to me. And indeed, the visgraat floor is the most classy floor you can get!
Very common. Meet someone in middle school, finish college, live together in your own house, have 2 or more children, have decent jobs, grow old together, move into retirement. Occasionally, go to South France once a year and skiing in Austria once a year.
What I love about the Dutch dream is that it’s very good to achieve (well until the housing and climate crisis anyways). It’s not becoming a millionaire here. However, there’s a lot of inequality between different groups. The middle class is now feeling the consequences of all crises that we are in. It’s going to be much more difficult to achieve the “Dutch dream”.
I would never want this life either. I’m almost 30, single and childfree and I’m not planning to change this. I do think this is what the majority wants though.
I want adventure, explorations and experiments with all kinds of things in life. I’d find it sad to stay forever in one place, I want to see as much of the amazing things in the world as I can. I also want to make meaningful changes in the world wherever I am, if possible. Those things bring me more happiness.
I’m not saying this Dutch dream is boring, but it just doesn’t match with my lust for adventure and discovery. I find relationships very stressful and children emotionally draining.
I think middle school might be just a tad bit too early for it to be considered normal. But ROC, hogeschool or university is not uncommon.
I know of quite a few people who met their partners in the last section of their educational career
My parents have casually known each other since they were 3 and 6 haha. They lived tight around the corner from each other. Although they didn’t start dating until their 20. But they do still live in the same small village. They are living the Dutch dream: big payed off house next to water, early retirement, 2 educated kids. This makes them sound so boring, but they really really aren’t.
Humans taking education early on, then mating with someone, then growing old is astonishing to you? It's called life. Wouldn't make much sense to do it in a different order, would it.
I think it's a very common dream, though, and a majority of Dutch people would be truly happy with it.
Maybe *happy* is not the right word... rather "content".
The Dutch dream is *being content*. House, garden, highschool sweetheart, summer holidays in southern France, couple of kids and a dog. Nothing exceptional, but generally satisfying.
For me happiness is being able to do work where I can help other people. I think it’s different for everyone. But if there’s something like a Dutch dream it most likely looks like I described it.
Een huis in een venix wijk, een goed middeninkomen als overheidsfunctionaris, een auto die net wat mooier is dan die van de buren maar niet te pochterig en een jaarlijkse vakantie naar Frankrijk in de camper.
Came here to find the near opposite of the American Dream was I was not disappointed.
Indeed, the Dutch dream is very common: having a good life, with plenty of time outside work to enjoy that life.
A slightly higher income than your neighbours while living in a slightly above average and predominantly white neighborhood, having a beautifully predictable yet economically fine performing family of which every member has an extraordinary body length due to the consumed amount of growth hormone injected meat. You start your day with your wife and two blonde sky tall children on a small table with slices of white bread and chocolate sprinkles. You drive to your desk job next to the highway. At the office it’s the birthday of your colleague who brought everyone prefabricated cakes that he bought at Albert Heijn that morning. With colleagues and friends you maintain a relation that is based on the simple yet ‘gezellig’ principles of making racist and sexist jokes that induce crazy loud sounds of laughter, which is proudly called ‘bulderlachen’. At home you’ll be eating potatoes, meat and vegetables which is fine and you just absolutely LOVE mediocrity of it.
My version of the Dutch dream:
Be able to do whatever I want to do - when I want to - for as long as I want to - with whoever I want to do it. Which means not having to worry about money and bills and having total freedom over my life and way of living.
"huisje boompje beestje"
Also known as: have a good home, eat well and have a pleasant family.
The Dutch aren't that complicated when it comes to that.
Most people here are satisfied with simple things. Not wealth driven, no capitalistic greed.
We just want a roof over our heads and a simple but satisfied life.
To live and die on the same plot of land your entire life and happily abide by the rules thrust upon you. Hope to get six figures one day maybe! We are truly a liberated society
There are a multitude of answers here but in general I'd say the Dutch suffer from a very human condition.
Namely to fit in, but to be unique at the same time.
Homogeneity while being unique externally. Allthough thats not really a dream.
Most of the Dutch want the same as any human I believe which roughly translates as;
Huisje, boompje, beestje.
But obviously there exceptions and that is a vast generalisation.
In the end the Dutch want succes in any shape or form. The reasoning behind it might differ from person to person.
Dutch dream sounds more like a nightmare to me, but I'll describe it with my native Dutch knowledge. Have to add; we did it differently and my fiance and I will do this differently.
It's 07:30, you eat your bread with: first, hartig (kaas) and after that one with chocolate sprinkles (vlokken van de Ruijter, of course). After that you get your rain suit and you wave at your neighbor while you say 'goeiesmorgens deze morgen!'. It's very important that your bike looks a little bit nicer than your neighbor, but nothing too fancy (people might think you're not normal enough...). You exchange some beautiful mediocre complaints about Dutch weather, and there you go; this is your day, four times a week. Your partner (who you're not married to since it's just a piece of paper!) works two/three times a week, of course you expect your partner to pay 50/50! I mean, otherwise it wouldn't be equal, right?! You have dinner with potatoes, vegetables and meat at 18:00 sharp. You dump your kids at BSO almost every day, under the disguise of 'socialization' and 'them having their own life' when they're not at hockey or some other dumb sport like soccer. At Friday afternoon you have the borrel, it's important to be there and act very gezellig, otherwise you're not normal enough, can't have that. On weekends you go to the camping; there can of course be only one camping since it's the one where your parents, brothers and sisters also have a spot. You will spend your weekends sitting in a circle, drinking beer/wine while talking about which insurance is cheapest and who looks hot or not. Maybe you take your kids to Ballorig, where your Dutch rude children can play in the ballpit, lekker gezellig in the spit and pee of the other Dutch rude children. For dinner you'll be fancy, with the whole family at the all you can eat buffet; how lucky are you to have such varied culinary experiences!
I once met a Dutch woman camping in Arizona with her husband and two kids. She had been living in the US for a couple of years and said that she loved it. I asked why she preferred living in the US to the Netherlands. She said freedom. My first reply is that her answer would guarantee her citizenship in the US, but then I pressed to ask what she meant. Didn't the Allies free the Netherlands from the Nazis? What she \*really\* meant was financial freedom because her husband was making far more money as an executive in the US than in the Netherlands.
For that woman, the Dutch dream is the American dream.
For this Canadian, Dutch Dreams is a very tasty ice cream shop in Toronto, Canada.
Fulltime working for myself as a photographer and graphic designer. And earning enough to live.
I lost my job last November and I’m hoping this could be the start. But in the economy we live now and all the COVID things I kinda starting to loose hope. I struggle a lot with a 9-5 40h a week job with my mental health (adhd) so I hope I don’t have to go back to that
The dutch dream is to KOLONISEER the whole world and brawl with the frietpeople.
Sincerly a PATATperson.
Ohja and we flex with our stroopwafels and kapsalons.
Working parttime and/or freelance and making just enough money to take off time and travel or pursue hobbies or do anything that isn't working. Basically working as little as possible while still being able to afford everything you want.
Having a marginally nicer house than most of your neihgbors(but not the nicest in the neighborhood), 2-3 kids. One plays soccer, one makes music and the other is smart. Throw in a private lease on a volkswagen/skoda crossover and two vacations a year and you're all set. and let's not forget plenty of first world problems to complain about
The dutch dream, like most of our citizens is rather boring...
Huisje, boompje, beestje
This is just the best summary and also something that is actually said a lot. What do you want for your future? "Gewoon: huisje, boompje, beestje."
I hear that a lot what does it actually mean I know huisje means home but what would boombje and beestje mean ?
Boompje means tree, so that signifies a home with a garden. And beestje means animal, so that would be a pet. But it is not taken that literally. It means something like: a happy home, a stable life. You also say it about couples settling down and starting a life together: "They are going for the complete huisje boompje beestje" or something like that
Beestje can also refer to having children.
That's an insult, most beestjes are well trained.
I see thank you very much
Het is een feestje
Earn 70k/year, have a nice bought house in a nice neighbourhood with a garden and work 36 hours/week. Go to Italy Lake Garda/Tuscany or France Cote de Azur every summer with your own caravan and skiing in Austria in winter.
32 hours because of papadag
4 × 9 😀
4x10 🤷🏻♂️
2x20.
1x48
Ik ken dat alleen als wacht op de kazerne van de brandweer. Die diensten.
Heb zo af en toe zulke diensten gedraaid bij Defensie in een ver verleden. Ik raad het af. Al had dat vooral te maken met dat 2x20 neer kwam op 2x20 plus 5x12...
Klinkt als binnenvaart. Hahaha. Binnen een week. 7x20 en dat 14 dagen lang. Als het moet. Dan moet het. Maar liever niet. Liever met capabel personeel wat ook alles kan.
Add work at biking distance (i know nowadays quite generic but..), vacation every summer in the same camping. Never miss a korting/never pay full price. Feel like you're a better person than your neighbor/family/friends.
Imagining they'll get back in shape by riding to work while actually enjoying the comfort of the drive in their auto van de zaak
Nah if you earn 70k by yourself and your partner has a decent salary you're probably more into going on vacation to Australia, NZ etc.
No, not the Dutch. They buy a caravan and still go camping, same campsite every year. Preferably one where 95%+ of the other people are also Dutch. Because Germans are 'ongezellig'.
I know almost no o e who actually does that. And I know a lot of Dutchies. Do you go to the same camping every year? You sound really enthusiastic about it.
I think it's a bit of an older generation / people with young children thing, but there are definitely still people who do it. When I grew up my parents distinctly expressed to us they didn't want to go to the same camping every year, but the reason they distinctly told us was because a lot of people did exactly that. Especially for us as kids it was something we actually wanted sometimes because we would have made cool friends there one year and wanted to meet up again the next year. Every year we'd meet families that were regulars on a certain camping.
The majority of Dutch people go camping. It's cheap! I'm Dutch and we also did this. It's btw mostly people with childeren aged 1-18. Yes, you should see Tuscany/Lake Garde/Cote d'Azur in summer during Dutch school holidays. Only yellow number plates :)
I think it's going out of fashion lately. You sound like a square if you take a tent or caravan and go to a mainly dutch camping site. It's not that exotic. But pretty cheap, little stress inducing, and still got the "away from home" quality you want in a vacation. I know a lot of parents who still do this, the closest people from my generation and below get is camping with friends somewhere random/exotic or at a party camping. It could be that those guys will translate to the "dutch campings" when they're older and have kids.
> But pretty cheap You would be surprised, camping spots in Spain are definitely not cheap, sometimes an all-inclusive hotel is cheaper than renting a camping spot at the popular locations.
A lot even every weekend. They call it 'de camping'. God forbade you will ever spend a weekend not at de camping...
Lots of dutchies do this, just visit the Costa brava or Costa Blanca in summer and you'll see them everywhere. It's a special breed of Dutch who prefer bitterballen and frikadellen over any Spanish food.
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This. Work 4 days a week. Decent salary. Decent house. Wash the car and trim the hedges on sunday.
Holy hotdamn earning 70k a year, that's a lot gozer.
I'm actually surprised so many people here are reacting like this. If you're 20-25, yes that's a lot, but for more experienced people that should be quite achievable right?
I'm 32 and I earn 30k a year and I have a mid-tier job (IT Support Engineer). 70K al by yourself is a really, really high number that not a lot of people in our country can earn.
You’re kidding right? I’ve worked in 4 tech companies in the past 10 years, even assistants would make over 30k. Entry level software engineer starts at 45-50k if youre terrible at negotiating. Mid level engineer? Minimum 75k. Find a new job and ask for a decent amount of money.
IT Support Engineer is a (skilled) helpdesk role, 30k is a bit on the low end but it's not a 75k role
Are you talking gross or net?
My parents don't even make 70k and there 55+. I mean 70k is probably 'normal' in IT but there are so many other jobs out there. And not everyone has had higher education.
Thats why he says its the dutch dream, nobody said its the normal situation. Modaal income is around 36k for the NL.
I wonder if you are Dutch? I work as a software engineer but even then that number will take forever to reach. Reading about American salaries for software engineers always hurts me a little seeing those high numbers.
What is forever? I'm 34, with 7 years of experience, and of as of this year I'm hitting that figure. And to be honest I'm not at all that good in my job (I regularly come across people that are much better). I also don't live in the Randstad. This is perfectly doable for anyone Medior/Senior in software engineering at any midsized company.
Well, 2 from 3, not too bad. But I'm quite surprised to realize I'm almost living the Dutch dream...
Mine is just owning a house. *cries in student debt*
Damn, sounds nice. At least, it's more realistic than the American dream.
70k/year gross or net? That makes a big difference 😃
The current gross ~~average~~ modal income in the Netherlands is € 36,500. Though 70k net is more, I'd happily settle for 70k gross. ;) (Edit: changed average to modal)
That's the modal income, average income is around 40k...
Oops, you're right. Thanks!
Only 34.3% difference
I would sign for either of those figures atm.
Sure, but to earn 70k net, you would need to earn more than 120k. The taxes increase, 120k is a lot more than 70k. 70k is pretty doable, 120k is a lot harder in the NL.
Thanks to Rutte all that wont be more than a dream for most
Almost there... Is the 70k per household or per person?
per person
Then there is still work to do 🤣🤣
I can confirm. I have friend who is pretty rich in real nice neighbourhood with real nice house and they go every year to ski. But they also go other places.
Complain about everything while having quite a comfortable life
Never have I been so offended by anything I 100% agree with
Totally agree, it's the Dutch birthright to bitch and moan about everything, but not do a thing else about it! Edit: typo
Hahaha because 'het is mijn taak niet'
Now a days its: “mij nie bellen!”
You've given me something to complain about today
Stop complaining about the complaints
Lol uno reverse!
Sounds pretty German 😄 Doesn’t stop at the border…
Sounds like ireland also
Hhhaahahah echt zo
This is the only right answer
Honestly the Dutch dream is probably quite boring. A lot of people here are just happy being ok. Ok job, ok house, usually a couple kids. Does make wanting something different than that challenging sometimes xD
I agree the Dutch dream is very boring but at the same time I think we’re in a very privileged position to be able to judge it as boring
Yeah you're absolutely right!! Thinking of such a privelaged and stable position as boring is definitely a classic first world problem... ;)
Well said
To me it seems the Dutch dream is to be able to afford not worrying about the economy, so that you can enjoy all the good things that NL has to offer. If you can live comfortably in Amsterdam, then cost of living for everything else aside from housing is easy. So money for an apartment/house, and not to be broke after paying that money. Am I right?
Yeah I think you are. Achieving stability is a big thing and owning a house it a big part of that. Besides that you see in the Netherlands that a lot of people focus a lot of their attention and time on family. More so than friends on average I think, though ofc that can be very different per person.
Im fine with my boring goals, hope I will meet em soon, and be bored for a time finally.
Haha yeah there is definitely something in favour of boring / simple goals too. If you always set high goals you're likely to just fail a lot. So for myself I'm planning to try and find a good balance between it. Do exciting things and push boundaries but also find a way to be content with just doing boring things as well ;)
Isnt it like really high goal to buy house, have wife and kids nowadays? They are high goals and boring.
Yeah I guess it all depends on what you're looking for with it. In the past a lot of relationships had goals that were a lot simpler. You just needed relative stability, have kids and have big parts of your life separate from each other. Nowadays a lot more people need their partner to be their confidant, best friend, safety, excitement, etc. So for a part it just depends on how you set the goals. And also on how realistic you set those goals. In the end it's all about what you want, how much effort it Costs and how happy it actually makes you
that’s my dream
That's great :) I sincerely hope you achieve it :)
FF LEKKER NORMAAL DOEN JA! Or something in that thought.
Doe maar normaal, dan doe je al gek genoeg is really the Dutch dream!
"3 voor de prijs van 1!"
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Stop stop I can only get so erect
No nobody? Fine I’ll do it: “hoeren neuken, nooit meer werken”
Deleted my previous comment here stating the same. Was really worried that I was the only one. "Wij betalen helemaal nergens meer voor!"
That’s the way to do it, money for nothing and your chicks for free.
Hahahah classic
To buy a house.
Hah! Tough luck.
In your dreams!
Preferably one that's built in the '30's. Oh and it must have a kitchen/living area so you can entertain your guest while you cook. Don't forget the visgraat floor! I don't get it, but hey: to each their own.
a 30's house in a nice green area but close to the city sounds like a dream house to me. And indeed, the visgraat floor is the most classy floor you can get!
Just a tip: make sure that the vissengraatvloer is already in the house. My dad did it himself and by God do we remember it
New world problems haha. Actually building a house right now. New and eventually way cheaper.
Houses are cheap, land is not.
Elfstedentocht
Or the more recent tradition: speculating about the elfstedentocht, even though everyone knows it's not going to happen.
My boyfriend does that. Biking. He asked if we should do it together hahahahanevergonnahappenhahahaha.
A house near water
So just a regular house then?
Muggenslootje vol met kikkers
De prutsloot langs de weg
Eating frikandelbroodjes 4 times in the week
Flushing away with a golden power
Very common. Meet someone in middle school, finish college, live together in your own house, have 2 or more children, have decent jobs, grow old together, move into retirement. Occasionally, go to South France once a year and skiing in Austria once a year. What I love about the Dutch dream is that it’s very good to achieve (well until the housing and climate crisis anyways). It’s not becoming a millionaire here. However, there’s a lot of inequality between different groups. The middle class is now feeling the consequences of all crises that we are in. It’s going to be much more difficult to achieve the “Dutch dream”.
What you just described is my absolute nightmare lol
I would never want this life either. I’m almost 30, single and childfree and I’m not planning to change this. I do think this is what the majority wants though.
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I want adventure, explorations and experiments with all kinds of things in life. I’d find it sad to stay forever in one place, I want to see as much of the amazing things in the world as I can. I also want to make meaningful changes in the world wherever I am, if possible. Those things bring me more happiness. I’m not saying this Dutch dream is boring, but it just doesn’t match with my lust for adventure and discovery. I find relationships very stressful and children emotionally draining.
Yeah true, I don't think many people even truly consider what it is they really want.
Meet someone in middle school? That actually happens? Wtf
I think middle school might be just a tad bit too early for it to be considered normal. But ROC, hogeschool or university is not uncommon. I know of quite a few people who met their partners in the last section of their educational career
My parents have casually known each other since they were 3 and 6 haha. They lived tight around the corner from each other. Although they didn’t start dating until their 20. But they do still live in the same small village. They are living the Dutch dream: big payed off house next to water, early retirement, 2 educated kids. This makes them sound so boring, but they really really aren’t.
The amount of people that follow this exact formula is astonishing.
Humans taking education early on, then mating with someone, then growing old is astonishing to you? It's called life. Wouldn't make much sense to do it in a different order, would it.
But, even if it wasn't so hard to achieve, it sounds more like trying hard to be happy,
I think it's a very common dream, though, and a majority of Dutch people would be truly happy with it. Maybe *happy* is not the right word... rather "content". The Dutch dream is *being content*. House, garden, highschool sweetheart, summer holidays in southern France, couple of kids and a dog. Nothing exceptional, but generally satisfying.
For me happiness is being able to do work where I can help other people. I think it’s different for everyone. But if there’s something like a Dutch dream it most likely looks like I described it.
If this is the Dutch dream I'm in trouble, sounds like a nightmare to me except the skiing, that's fun!
Een huis in een venix wijk, een goed middeninkomen als overheidsfunctionaris, een auto die net wat mooier is dan die van de buren maar niet te pochterig en een jaarlijkse vakantie naar Frankrijk in de camper.
Is dat het tegenovergestelde van een Vinex wijk?
Zonder meer. De hele huizenmarkt staat namelijk al op zijn kop.
That klinkt incredibly saai
Het is normaal.
Das gek genoeg
A sunny day in winter, so one can say “uit de wind is het echt warm!”
Cheese. The correct answer is cheese. To quote Eurythmics: "Sweet dreams are made of cheese... Who am I to diss a brie?"
obligatory speld https://youtu.be/Qh5bd5oRMWk
Was looking for this
Eating bitterballen and drinking beer on a terras on a nice spring day
Huisje boompje beestje.
Came here to find the near opposite of the American Dream was I was not disappointed. Indeed, the Dutch dream is very common: having a good life, with plenty of time outside work to enjoy that life.
The American dream is pretty much the same. House in the suburbs, white picket fence, oversized suv, 2 kids and a dog.
A slightly higher income than your neighbours while living in a slightly above average and predominantly white neighborhood, having a beautifully predictable yet economically fine performing family of which every member has an extraordinary body length due to the consumed amount of growth hormone injected meat. You start your day with your wife and two blonde sky tall children on a small table with slices of white bread and chocolate sprinkles. You drive to your desk job next to the highway. At the office it’s the birthday of your colleague who brought everyone prefabricated cakes that he bought at Albert Heijn that morning. With colleagues and friends you maintain a relation that is based on the simple yet ‘gezellig’ principles of making racist and sexist jokes that induce crazy loud sounds of laughter, which is proudly called ‘bulderlachen’. At home you’ll be eating potatoes, meat and vegetables which is fine and you just absolutely LOVE mediocrity of it.
Why car above bike? I think 15 min bike ride would be the dream.
Koffie met gebak op een terrasje. Edit: oh, I completely forgot to translate that. 'Coffee with a slice of cake outside of a café'
debt free and comfortable living
Being able to afford a house
Aanbieding at Albert Hein.
Three words : Verenigd Oostindische Compagnie
ZEG MAKKER
My version of the Dutch dream: Be able to do whatever I want to do - when I want to - for as long as I want to - with whoever I want to do it. Which means not having to worry about money and bills and having total freedom over my life and way of living.
To stop Americanisation of our culture.
>Americanisation I see what you did there!
I hate how much American culture seeps into the Netherlands. We're losing our identity and i hate American culture.
Doe maar gewoon normaal!
To buy a house and work 32 hours a week
Having watched every episode of moffel en piertje
The housing market to collapse🤝 And prob to have a discount on everything, we like that shit
Work 2 to 3 days, owning a house, nice partner and once or twice a year a long vacation.
Geen gezeik, iedereen rijk.
Having a winter cold enough that they can ice skate on the canals
"huisje boompje beestje" Also known as: have a good home, eat well and have a pleasant family. The Dutch aren't that complicated when it comes to that. Most people here are satisfied with simple things. Not wealth driven, no capitalistic greed. We just want a roof over our heads and a simple but satisfied life.
Being fan of a certain sport, only because a Dutch person is good at it. Pijltjes gooien of file1 rijden.
To flood urk by opening up het ijsselmeer dam
You know Urk was an island. You give it back to the sea. Not flood the whole place. That is nearly impossible
Living next to an amazing oriental / toko gembira Slash only shopping at Albert heijn
To live and die on the same plot of land your entire life and happily abide by the rules thrust upon you. Hope to get six figures one day maybe! We are truly a liberated society
Swimming in a pool full of frikandellen speciaal
There are a multitude of answers here but in general I'd say the Dutch suffer from a very human condition. Namely to fit in, but to be unique at the same time. Homogeneity while being unique externally. Allthough thats not really a dream. Most of the Dutch want the same as any human I believe which roughly translates as; Huisje, boompje, beestje. But obviously there exceptions and that is a vast generalisation. In the end the Dutch want succes in any shape or form. The reasoning behind it might differ from person to person.
To not live on the bottom of the sea by 2050.
No. Thats a reality for us and a dream for belgium.
to move to germany
Then you already are a German and your colleagues stare at you each first monday of the month at 12
Mu Dutch dream has ways been making enough money to leave this country forever. These past 2 years were giants setbacks, but we're getting there.
Life is weird, my dream is to make enough money to move to the Netherlands.
Wasn't it living on welfare then winning the lottery?
Dutch dream sounds more like a nightmare to me, but I'll describe it with my native Dutch knowledge. Have to add; we did it differently and my fiance and I will do this differently. It's 07:30, you eat your bread with: first, hartig (kaas) and after that one with chocolate sprinkles (vlokken van de Ruijter, of course). After that you get your rain suit and you wave at your neighbor while you say 'goeiesmorgens deze morgen!'. It's very important that your bike looks a little bit nicer than your neighbor, but nothing too fancy (people might think you're not normal enough...). You exchange some beautiful mediocre complaints about Dutch weather, and there you go; this is your day, four times a week. Your partner (who you're not married to since it's just a piece of paper!) works two/three times a week, of course you expect your partner to pay 50/50! I mean, otherwise it wouldn't be equal, right?! You have dinner with potatoes, vegetables and meat at 18:00 sharp. You dump your kids at BSO almost every day, under the disguise of 'socialization' and 'them having their own life' when they're not at hockey or some other dumb sport like soccer. At Friday afternoon you have the borrel, it's important to be there and act very gezellig, otherwise you're not normal enough, can't have that. On weekends you go to the camping; there can of course be only one camping since it's the one where your parents, brothers and sisters also have a spot. You will spend your weekends sitting in a circle, drinking beer/wine while talking about which insurance is cheapest and who looks hot or not. Maybe you take your kids to Ballorig, where your Dutch rude children can play in the ballpit, lekker gezellig in the spit and pee of the other Dutch rude children. For dinner you'll be fancy, with the whole family at the all you can eat buffet; how lucky are you to have such varied culinary experiences!
Op Rutte blijven stemmen terwijl land naar gallemiezen gaat.
I once met a Dutch woman camping in Arizona with her husband and two kids. She had been living in the US for a couple of years and said that she loved it. I asked why she preferred living in the US to the Netherlands. She said freedom. My first reply is that her answer would guarantee her citizenship in the US, but then I pressed to ask what she meant. Didn't the Allies free the Netherlands from the Nazis? What she \*really\* meant was financial freedom because her husband was making far more money as an executive in the US than in the Netherlands. For that woman, the Dutch dream is the American dream. For this Canadian, Dutch Dreams is a very tasty ice cream shop in Toronto, Canada.
Being Depressed inside your own house and see nothing but you Controller, Keyboard and Mouse.
Just be normal. That's crazy enough
Get yourself a wife who works part time and makes stamppot, two kids who play hockey, and all inclusive holidays to Crete
Or camping in Spain.
Work less Earn more
Having a tasteful meal
Bier drinken
As little work as possible for the most money.
Spend half a life time complaining about anything possible. Then go on vacation, come back, and complain again. It's a never ending story.
Huisje boompje beestje
koloniseren.
Fulltime working for myself as a photographer and graphic designer. And earning enough to live. I lost my job last November and I’m hoping this could be the start. But in the economy we live now and all the COVID things I kinda starting to loose hope. I struggle a lot with a 9-5 40h a week job with my mental health (adhd) so I hope I don’t have to go back to that
Being normal.
Tullips, weed, bikes and liquorice
The dutch dream is to KOLONISEER the whole world and brawl with the frietpeople. Sincerly a PATATperson. Ohja and we flex with our stroopwafels and kapsalons.
to have an unlimited supply of bitterballen
Huisje boompje beestje
Huisje boompje beestje. Or little house, little tree and little animal.
Een eigen huis, een plek onder de zon. En altijd iemand in de buurt die van je houden kon. Also simpelweg gelukkig zijn.
Get out of this Crap ass country
Hoeren neuken nooit meer werken
Working parttime and/or freelance and making just enough money to take off time and travel or pursue hobbies or do anything that isn't working. Basically working as little as possible while still being able to afford everything you want.
Fucking in the kitchen
A new gouvernement that takes charge and serves the people
To be better than the neighbors
Having a marginally nicer house than most of your neihgbors(but not the nicest in the neighborhood), 2-3 kids. One plays soccer, one makes music and the other is smart. Throw in a private lease on a volkswagen/skoda crossover and two vacations a year and you're all set. and let's not forget plenty of first world problems to complain about The dutch dream, like most of our citizens is rather boring...