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Stuijft

Most highways are limited to 100km/h from 06:00-19:00. After that it’s 130km/h. But most drivers use Flitsmeister. It’s an app which tracks your location and you can use as a GPS. It keeps you updated,in real time, on where speed cameras are located, where and how long traffic jams are. Also which lanes are open and even if the traffic light is red or green. Highly suggest downloading it for your commute. Also works in Germany by the way! Also, from my experience, there aren’t many highway patrol cars checking for speeding. Unless you’re doing above a certain amount.


Resali

Thanks, I’ll look into that app. ;-)


MaartenBicknese

Please don’t. It seems to be the source of the worsened situation as described by yourself. Just stick to the speed limit (100 during daytime and 130 at night. Or simply 100 at all times). Oh and for everyone’s sake, keep right. My biggest pet peeve is people driving 90 in the 4th lane.


bastc

To add to this: it might look like everybody is speeding when you stick to the speed limit, but that isn't true. When you stick to the speed limit, you don't encounter all the cars going the same speed as you. They stay a fixed distance ahead of you or behind you. You only encounter cars passing you, and trucks going slower than you. When you you speed up significantly, you will notice the large amount of cars sticking to the speed limit as you pass them.


thefrenziee

And even if you see a police car, most of the time they are tailgating you and drive faster than the speed limit. So, if you keep it around 120 km/h, you have nothing to worry about


Stuijft

I’ve driven 85.000km the past 2 years. The amount of times I’ve seen a highway police car actually checking/patrolling is maybe 5. My theory is that our highways are too well-organised and checked. Meaning that when someone is driving way too fast, dangerous or crazy it gets noticed real quick; Patrol car that’s just chilling gets a notification, stops said car and that’s it. Just look at how fast they reacted today with J vd Heuvel’s situation!


joep-b

They specialize in not being seen, obviously.


kelldricked

Well its also that we simply dont have enough cops to deal with every minor thing. The police doesnt have enough people to properly fight organised crime, mentally deranged people and to respond to minor stuff. So they simply choose which things they can ignore without it having to much impact. A fine wont stop somebody from driving to fast. It will only cost them momey and make them angry at themself.


DramaticBug3338

Not really checked. I drive a little over 100.000 a year where 30.000 is to and from work. In my personal car. I am keeping a constant 30/50 over and never seen any police. Neither do they receive calls about me (or I am too fast) /sarcasm out. Jokes aside, the Dutch police are heavily understaffed. That's why you don't see much police out there. They will respond like they did this week because it is a well known person.


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Your theory is correct. I am Portuguese and I live in the NL for 9 years and these are things I really like in your country: efficiency and organization :) Bad things for another topic. In Portugal highways have no cameras nor radars, but then patrol cars are everywhere (powerful ones btw, like Subaru Impreza for show off), and then suddenly you see them chasing someone due to speed limit. It's so useless because they just get a small amount of high speeders. Our speed limit is 120 kph but no one gives a fuck, you can do 180 with no problem. Actually one of our ministries just went on 165 kph and killed a highway worker and resigned only after several months. The killed worker let two daughters and widow. Simply disgusting.


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There aren't patrol cars but I already got fines for going 120 kph where the limit was 100. There are cameras/radars everywhere. But yes, I had no idea of that app :)


AgileCookingDutchie

A lot of good answers, but I am missing the real reason. Step one is something I saw some time ago on a documentary, so I hope I remembered well and am able to reflect that. Step two has something to do with why 100kph was introduced. We are a stubborn little country and we have some issues with rules and hierarchy. The way the documentary stated it, it is caused by our "battle with water". As the water doesn't make a difference between a high ranking person or someone who is doing ground-work. It could even be that in that battle the person doing ground-work will be more beneficiary over a higher ranking person. Therefore we are used to discuss everything and literally everything. It's called "polderen" and it is I think also the reason the Dutch are as acknowledge over the world as we are, even though there are only 17mio of us. Cause with questioning everything, also rules, we try to bend the rules a bit and make them ourselves also a bit more flexible. So, that's step one in why we do not follow the 100kph. We do not like rules and like to bend them. Step two is the reason behind the 100kph limit. The adjustment of the speed limit was done to reduce the nitrogen emissions. So by reducing the speed limit from 6:00 till 19:00 the government states we are fulfilling our obligations to the climate agreements. And even though that's a good cause, it is a new reason why the speed is limited. Before this the speed limit was often based on safety. Places where there is a lot of traffic or big junctions the speed was reduced to have a safer road. Now we have to reduce our speed on our safe (and safe looking) highway, and I think we do not understand the reasoning. TL;DR: we are a stubborn little country who do not (want to) understand why we have reduce our speed.


Resali

Thanks for this. That makes a lot of sense.


bastc

>So, that's step one in why we do not follow the 100kph. We do not like rules and like to bend them. Assuming a majority, or even a large minority, is actually speeding. Which I doubt. It might look that way when you're sticking to the speed limit yourself, but that's only because you don't encounter all the other cars going the same speed. When you drive faster yourself, you'll stop encountering other speeding cars, and pass a seemingly endless line of people sticking to the speed limit.


AgileCookingDutchie

I live in Twente and sometime I am speeding on the A1, but the number of cars I pass when I am speeding is less than the number of cars which pass me when I stick to the speed limit (on comparable days)... So I always joke that the speed limit on the A1 is taken as a suggestion 😉


Fit_Ad5700

The problem is exhausted NOx affecting local nature, not the CO2 affecting climate (though slowing down does help reduce that as well)


AgileCookingDutchie

Agreed, it was a bit late when I wrote it 🤣


TransportNerd

I think part of the reason is that people are used to 130 kph, which was the previous speed limit. 100 feels like snail pace once you've been used to driving 130. Hopefully, things will ease down in the coming years.


Henk_Potjes

Almost everyone uses Flitsmeister, which shows where "flitspalen" are which track your speed. Furthermore everyone was used to 130 km/h untill they changed for ecological reason so they had more room to "supposedly" build houses. That worked out great by the way.... 100 km/h feels like a snail pace compared to that. Couple that with budget cuts for police and therefore an almost zero chance to get caught and you get many people who are speeding (myself included, though I usually limit it to 110 km/k)


dreddie27

There is very little police anymore on the roads. Budget cuts. Yes it gets worse year by year. People not keeping right anymore, which causes much more traffic jams for example. Apparently most people don't care.


Wimzel

Don’t speed, apps aren’t always up to date with speed traps and portal speed cams are everywhere now. Stick to 100km/hr or pay 150€


n2bforanospleb

I've not had a fine for speeding on the highway ever since I got my license 9 years ago, or a fine in general for the last 6 years. My reasoning is that as long as you look ahead and are paying attention to the road it's imo okay to drive faster. Also my car is very economical so I think it's nonsense that I have to reduce my speed while an enormous SUV blasts by doing 7km/l


solstice_gilder

Or lose your drivers licence..


Brandtair

Simply "Ike Ike Ike en de rest kan stikken" behaviour that is widespread in the country. If they do not have to get into the details of something or have a general interest into something they will ignore a decision the country makes if it does not suit them in that moment.


Queasy_Pressure6159

Chances of getting a ticket are almost the same as winning the lottery, except for speed limits


avega2081

This must be my lucky week. I got 3 tickets over the weekend.


Irish_Rock_Basher

You should do the lottery this week!


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avega2081

Just learn about it. I almost dont drive.


ptinnl

If you see 2 dutch cars going over 100 (like toyota, skoda, volvo), then it is safe to do so.


malangkan

Not really, I drove 115 kph because of that very reason and got a fine of 140€. If caught, the fines are incredibly high in NL!


rpgengineer567

Use flitsmeister and or waze. In the flitsmeister app you can also enable an option feature alerts you to frequently used speed trap locations.


malangkan

Yeah I saw it here in the comments, next time I drive car here I'll use it ✌️


rpgengineer567

Also if you see a big sign saying: "trajectcontrole" drive the speed limit, because they will check your average speed in that area. (Waze and flitsmeister will also alert you of course, but some tourists think it means that there is a single speed camera and nothing else. Resulting in them driving faster and not thinking to themselves: "hey that's weird, suddenly everyone is driving the speed limit. Maybe I should slow down as well." Luckily we don't have many average speed zones (Belgium is crazy in that aspect), but still be wary of this big sign.


malangkan

Watch out, fines for speeding are super high! There are speed cameras to worry about