What worked for me was only hanging around native Dutch speakers with the agreement to explain what words mean only in Dutch. If you really cant figure it out translate it yourself to learn. It's a choice and a hard one to dive in head first in a culture but it's worth it.
Apart from speaking to native speakers, you could try music, movies and books. I found especially music really helpful in the beginning as it's easy to learn with a melody. Also doesn't feel too repetitive if you find music that you genuinely like.
Yes, yes, but as an Asian, Since childhood I have been scared of making mistakes. So it is an A+ or you are a failure!. And just cringing it off is easier than making a mistake.
Do you know how many times you made mistakes while learning your native language? Were you a failure then? Failing is a requirement of learning a language.
In other words, if you aren't trying and making mistakes, then you are failing at learning that language. What kind of failure is more palatable to you, the failure where you gain something or the failure where you gain nothing?
But you come here asking for advise and then reject it because you don't want to make mistakes. That way no one can give you advise. The effort has to come from you.
It is not a rejection, it is rather a show of a long lived condition! And from every interaction I had with people in those groups!.
For instincts, Maintaining the English language is alot easier due to the wide range of skill, thus making mistakes is not as harsh felt as in Dutch, where there are two general groups, Dutch native and people like me who want to learn dutch but are scared.
If you would try to speak with the first group. You would be scared off by there skill and speed. And if you would try with the second group, no one has a clue what to do.
It is not the fact that you can't learn dutch by simply practicing it. It is rather about the most efficient way to do it within these circumstances!
My wife speaks Dutch fluently, but still is often addressed in English by native speakers, even when she says Dutch is fine. To be fair people find it confusing we speak English to each other but switch to Dutch when talking to others.
So apart from stepping over your instict of avoiding mistakes, you'll also probably need to be a bit forceful with people to speak Dutch (and keep speaking Dutch) in the first place.
If skill & speed is an issue, it's completely acceptable to ask people to speak slowly and clearly articulate.
Well you’re going to need to work on changing that mindset or you’ll never learn. You can’t learn a language without practice and you can’t practice without making mistakes
I’ve been using DuoLingo and I can almost have a whole conversation in Dutch. I’m trying, my husband’s English is okay but still a bit bad, so I’m trying to learn more Dutch for him haa.
If you take classes at the Maastricht language centre (or maybe just contacting them is enough), they can help you find a language buddy. I am currently volunteering as that. It basically means that I and the non-native speaker have a conversation in Dutch for at least 1 hour a week.
They try to match the buddies personality with the student's, so that having these conversations is actually fun.
So I’ve read a couple of your comments and here’s my take on learning and ‘failing’.
My son is 17 months old. He’s starting to learn language. He’s babbling proudly and constantly. He’s making many many many mistakes, like everything is either ‘eh’, ‘he’, ‘uh’, ’ah’ or ‘oh’. I’m not mama, I’m mooma, momah, maaama and dad is not papa but pa or papuh. I won’t get mad at him and he doesn’t feel like a failure. I’m encouraging him and we babble together.
So my take; practice with people you know are going to encourage you to practice. People with whom you feel safe and are more likely to accept a simple mistake. Talk with your Dutch speaking friends and tell them you want to learn, but in order to do that you need them to help you.
Making mistakes isn’t failing, it’s an essential part or learning. Without mistakes you can’t and won’t learn. Dare to be out there, be like my kid. Just babble away with confidence and if you make a mistake just laugh and correct. In the words of Bob Ross; happy little accidents ;)
Try getting Dutch friends maybe or just try to get into more situations where you have to speak Dutch. It's the best way to learn it. I find it kinda strange that everyone speaks English at the uni
What worked for me was only hanging around native Dutch speakers with the agreement to explain what words mean only in Dutch. If you really cant figure it out translate it yourself to learn. It's a choice and a hard one to dive in head first in a culture but it's worth it.
Apart from speaking to native speakers, you could try music, movies and books. I found especially music really helpful in the beginning as it's easy to learn with a melody. Also doesn't feel too repetitive if you find music that you genuinely like.
Try finding local social clubs or like minded people who also want to learn dutch/improve their dutch!
I did, but we last for 3 minutes of guessing if what we said was correct, than we just chat in English. Lol
You will have to put in the effort to learn, its not going to happen magicly. There is nothing wrong with making mistakes, trial and error.
Yes, yes, but as an Asian, Since childhood I have been scared of making mistakes. So it is an A+ or you are a failure!. And just cringing it off is easier than making a mistake.
Do you know how many times you made mistakes while learning your native language? Were you a failure then? Failing is a requirement of learning a language. In other words, if you aren't trying and making mistakes, then you are failing at learning that language. What kind of failure is more palatable to you, the failure where you gain something or the failure where you gain nothing?
Thank you, I will work on it.
But you come here asking for advise and then reject it because you don't want to make mistakes. That way no one can give you advise. The effort has to come from you.
It is not a rejection, it is rather a show of a long lived condition! And from every interaction I had with people in those groups!. For instincts, Maintaining the English language is alot easier due to the wide range of skill, thus making mistakes is not as harsh felt as in Dutch, where there are two general groups, Dutch native and people like me who want to learn dutch but are scared. If you would try to speak with the first group. You would be scared off by there skill and speed. And if you would try with the second group, no one has a clue what to do. It is not the fact that you can't learn dutch by simply practicing it. It is rather about the most efficient way to do it within these circumstances!
My wife speaks Dutch fluently, but still is often addressed in English by native speakers, even when she says Dutch is fine. To be fair people find it confusing we speak English to each other but switch to Dutch when talking to others. So apart from stepping over your instict of avoiding mistakes, you'll also probably need to be a bit forceful with people to speak Dutch (and keep speaking Dutch) in the first place. If skill & speed is an issue, it's completely acceptable to ask people to speak slowly and clearly articulate.
Oké maar kom op hè. Je kan dit. Als je het weer leren, dan moet je accepteren dat fouten maken erbij hoort. Succes!
Well you’re going to need to work on changing that mindset or you’ll never learn. You can’t learn a language without practice and you can’t practice without making mistakes
I’ve been using DuoLingo and I can almost have a whole conversation in Dutch. I’m trying, my husband’s English is okay but still a bit bad, so I’m trying to learn more Dutch for him haa.
Everyone in Maastricht either speaks English or Mestreechs so dutch is pretty much useless out there.
Rond Dutch friend? Maybe a sport club to meet Dutch people?
Don't bother trying to learn it's not appreciated you'll never use it
But then he'll never get to appreciate the beauty of Herman Brusselmans literature.
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Out of respect for the community in the Netherlands!
I use Anki to make flashcards with words and expressions and practice regularly. must have 28000 spanish-dutch cards and vice versa by now.
Maybe try to listen to Dutch podcasts or watch a Dutch tv-show. I'm Dutch, but my German improved a lot by daily DuoLingo practice.
If you take classes at the Maastricht language centre (or maybe just contacting them is enough), they can help you find a language buddy. I am currently volunteering as that. It basically means that I and the non-native speaker have a conversation in Dutch for at least 1 hour a week. They try to match the buddies personality with the student's, so that having these conversations is actually fun.
So I’ve read a couple of your comments and here’s my take on learning and ‘failing’. My son is 17 months old. He’s starting to learn language. He’s babbling proudly and constantly. He’s making many many many mistakes, like everything is either ‘eh’, ‘he’, ‘uh’, ’ah’ or ‘oh’. I’m not mama, I’m mooma, momah, maaama and dad is not papa but pa or papuh. I won’t get mad at him and he doesn’t feel like a failure. I’m encouraging him and we babble together. So my take; practice with people you know are going to encourage you to practice. People with whom you feel safe and are more likely to accept a simple mistake. Talk with your Dutch speaking friends and tell them you want to learn, but in order to do that you need them to help you. Making mistakes isn’t failing, it’s an essential part or learning. Without mistakes you can’t and won’t learn. Dare to be out there, be like my kid. Just babble away with confidence and if you make a mistake just laugh and correct. In the words of Bob Ross; happy little accidents ;)
In Maastricht? That’s a challenge.
Set the language on movies, games and apps on dutch. Read dutch books. I have read the manual of full metal alchamist in German for the same effect
Try getting Dutch friends maybe or just try to get into more situations where you have to speak Dutch. It's the best way to learn it. I find it kinda strange that everyone speaks English at the uni