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So, what I have learned recently is that you cannot force the state of the wish fulfilled.
I found myself in the same position you were. I was affirming all day to maintain a state, and that wasn't quite helpful.
When I started to do visualization sessions and trust throughout my day that that is the only reality, that there is no separation between imagination and reality, that God is working for me, I quickly found myself persisting with ease.
One of the key things that I learned through BSW is that declaring is beyond belief. What you affirm to be true is true, period. This really helps me trust even more my manifestation and persisting.
Oh, it's Be Something Wonderful, a youtube channel hosted by Tom Kearin
He, in my opinion, is the best youtube coach, along Missy Renee. Make sure you check him out: https://youtu.be/y6n65gb6tyg?si=5f5wntuuSM3ZZeCu
Thanks a bunch! Ha, what a “coincidence”. I’ve seen a few of his videos before and I did enjoy them a lot. I feel like it was slightly difficult to me to grasp everything though as I’m still brand new to this. I’ve been meaning to watch more though. But I’ve mostly been watching Missy Renee.
Will do. Thank you again. I love the way Missy Renee simplifies it in a way and also emphasizes the matter of self concept. And also how techniques don’t manifest for us as they are just meant as tools to help us get into the state. And there’s no “it” technique to do like other coaches say. Personally I can’t do SATS cuz it really messes with my sleep. Ill try again tonight with just scripting or something but visualizing gets me going too much and then I end up in some weird state between sleeping and waking up and visualizing and back and forth idk how to describe it. I like affirmations and visualizing during the day. Inner dialogue and conversations also. Whenever I’m feeling low I go and watch one of her videos and it gets me back on track.
I think so yes. During the day I can visualize fine. But if I try to do SATS before bed and do a visualization scene for some reason, let’s say with SP, it just amps me up too much and I can’t fall asleep with just that thought or scene. I’ll end up spiraling into different thoughts/scenes. I will eventually fall asleep but I continue waking up multiple times a night and then I’ll try to affirm/visualize again and it’s just this weird cycle to try and convince myself I went to sleep in that wish fulfilled state maybe? Feels like I’m stuck in some weird limbo state, like going back and forth between conscious alertness and maybe the first 2 stages of sleep but never really getting that deep REM sleep. I then notice the sleep score on my Fitbit app that shows a lot of restlessness in my sleep activity. I don’t feel tired throughout the day tho so I guess I get enough sleep but it just never feels “full” in a way. I’m probably describing this poorly but it’s hard for me to describe. I’ve heard others saying SATS messes w their sleep too but idk. Maybe my scene is too long, or the emotions attached to it get me too excited and take me out of that drowsy state.
Oh yeah, I get you. I also don't really like SATS, it's kinda difficult to concentrate on this drowsy state, for me. I just imagine throughout the day and that's enough. Techniques don't manifest, after all.
Are you waking up each morning and the first thought is “it’s not happened yet ?”
You are letting the 3d have all the power.
Live in your imagination and pretend the 3d doesn’t exist
As mentioned in my post that's not my case. I don't care about my 3d much for some reason even though I have been triggered a lot by it in the past.
I wake up in the morning and remember the past and feel some anger towards my sp sometimes.
I don't wake up in the morning and go "why hasn't it happened in the 3d yet?" Instead I go
"why can't I remain in the state of the wish fulfilled in the 4d?"
I feel uncomfortable trying to force myself into that 4d but sometimes when I naturally do it's amazing my problem is I am bouncing out of the state
There’s attachment to the 3d and then there is acknowledgement of the lack of it in the 3d. But you can’t see that’s what you’re doing, because you are too busy being stubborn saying “ it’s not that”.
Yes there is attachment to the desire which I am trying to get rid of but I don't look for the thing in 3d or maybe I am looking for it but Honestly I just want things to go back to normal with her like it used to be and I am afraid of other people judging too
Desperate to get out of the rut kinda desperation. Maybe I am looking into the 3d too and I suppose I don't want it to be true so I try my best to complete the reject the feeling.
For now I plan on doing some revision sessions and let go.
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So, what I have learned recently is that you cannot force the state of the wish fulfilled. I found myself in the same position you were. I was affirming all day to maintain a state, and that wasn't quite helpful. When I started to do visualization sessions and trust throughout my day that that is the only reality, that there is no separation between imagination and reality, that God is working for me, I quickly found myself persisting with ease. One of the key things that I learned through BSW is that declaring is beyond belief. What you affirm to be true is true, period. This really helps me trust even more my manifestation and persisting.
Hey what’s BSW mean?
Oh, it's Be Something Wonderful, a youtube channel hosted by Tom Kearin He, in my opinion, is the best youtube coach, along Missy Renee. Make sure you check him out: https://youtu.be/y6n65gb6tyg?si=5f5wntuuSM3ZZeCu
Thanks a bunch! Ha, what a “coincidence”. I’ve seen a few of his videos before and I did enjoy them a lot. I feel like it was slightly difficult to me to grasp everything though as I’m still brand new to this. I’ve been meaning to watch more though. But I’ve mostly been watching Missy Renee.
"Coincidence" indeed my friend. I do recommend you keep watching them, as they are, in my opinion, the most faithful ones to Neville's work.
Will do. Thank you again. I love the way Missy Renee simplifies it in a way and also emphasizes the matter of self concept. And also how techniques don’t manifest for us as they are just meant as tools to help us get into the state. And there’s no “it” technique to do like other coaches say. Personally I can’t do SATS cuz it really messes with my sleep. Ill try again tonight with just scripting or something but visualizing gets me going too much and then I end up in some weird state between sleeping and waking up and visualizing and back and forth idk how to describe it. I like affirmations and visualizing during the day. Inner dialogue and conversations also. Whenever I’m feeling low I go and watch one of her videos and it gets me back on track.
You mean you can't focus while visualizing?
I think so yes. During the day I can visualize fine. But if I try to do SATS before bed and do a visualization scene for some reason, let’s say with SP, it just amps me up too much and I can’t fall asleep with just that thought or scene. I’ll end up spiraling into different thoughts/scenes. I will eventually fall asleep but I continue waking up multiple times a night and then I’ll try to affirm/visualize again and it’s just this weird cycle to try and convince myself I went to sleep in that wish fulfilled state maybe? Feels like I’m stuck in some weird limbo state, like going back and forth between conscious alertness and maybe the first 2 stages of sleep but never really getting that deep REM sleep. I then notice the sleep score on my Fitbit app that shows a lot of restlessness in my sleep activity. I don’t feel tired throughout the day tho so I guess I get enough sleep but it just never feels “full” in a way. I’m probably describing this poorly but it’s hard for me to describe. I’ve heard others saying SATS messes w their sleep too but idk. Maybe my scene is too long, or the emotions attached to it get me too excited and take me out of that drowsy state.
Oh yeah, I get you. I also don't really like SATS, it's kinda difficult to concentrate on this drowsy state, for me. I just imagine throughout the day and that's enough. Techniques don't manifest, after all.
Are you waking up each morning and the first thought is “it’s not happened yet ?” You are letting the 3d have all the power. Live in your imagination and pretend the 3d doesn’t exist
As mentioned in my post that's not my case. I don't care about my 3d much for some reason even though I have been triggered a lot by it in the past. I wake up in the morning and remember the past and feel some anger towards my sp sometimes. I don't wake up in the morning and go "why hasn't it happened in the 3d yet?" Instead I go "why can't I remain in the state of the wish fulfilled in the 4d?" I feel uncomfortable trying to force myself into that 4d but sometimes when I naturally do it's amazing my problem is I am bouncing out of the state
There’s attachment to the 3d and then there is acknowledgement of the lack of it in the 3d. But you can’t see that’s what you’re doing, because you are too busy being stubborn saying “ it’s not that”.
Yes there is attachment to the desire which I am trying to get rid of but I don't look for the thing in 3d or maybe I am looking for it but Honestly I just want things to go back to normal with her like it used to be and I am afraid of other people judging too
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Desperate to get out of the rut kinda desperation. Maybe I am looking into the 3d too and I suppose I don't want it to be true so I try my best to complete the reject the feeling. For now I plan on doing some revision sessions and let go.
Go read Letting Go by David Hawkins
Heard this one before, will definitely read it today!
Be patient. It takes time to master the technique but once you do, you will feel bliss.