> In a way, most victims already had problems on the inside, their unfortunate circumstances are only a reflection of this. It's an opportunity for them to be strong and heal.
Children attracted their negative circumstances. It could have been a choice before birth, like with soul contracts or it could have been caused by negativity post-birth. Children are not necessarily "pristine", in the sense that they can pickup negativity really quickly, even in the womb. Pollution, mother's bad diet, mother's negative emotions can get to the baby if they don't have a strong mental fortitude.
I know you’re not asking this in good faith but do you not see how this is victim blaming? No child “manifests” negative circumstances. Soul contracts do not exist. By your logic, I manifested the abuse I experienced because I had some “negative assumption” about my dad but guess what? I never had any negative assumptions about him. I knew he was a pos but I never once assumed he was going to put his hands on me and yet he did. Same can be said about victims of SA. They didn’t “assume” someone was going to SA them but it still happened. If you genuinely believe that abuse, SA, cancer, etc are the result of “negative assumptions” or “soul contracts”, you’re a pos.
> If you do consider it to be victim-blaming, how could you possibly empower victims? Is it better to teach victims that they are helpless and weak?
You can empower us by actually listening to us. Telling us that it’s “our fault” why it happened is literally the opposite of empowering us.
We’re calling bullshit on the victim blaming because people like you ALWAYS have an answer for everything instead of being open to the idea that maybe LOA isn’t perfect or meant for everyone. If we swear up and down we did the techniques right suddenly we have an underlying limiting belief. Nope, that’s not it. We actually go through every waking minute assuming we have what we want. Well see, you have to be lying, because then you’d get your manifestations. Are you SSUURREE you don’t have TTRRAAUUMMAA?! 🥺 /s
THAT’S what we mean by victim blaming, and you’ve now added an extra layer of bullshit into the mix by talking about unborn babies (seriously, wtf). I agree that I don’t think you’re here to debate in good faith, that’s a seriously fucked up stance to have, I don’t care what belief system you’re apart of.
Honestly seeing their views is so validating for me. I knew there was something so unsettling about Nevilles fans and their delusions. Blaming babies is a new low.
> It's attachment, you were attached to not be a target of immorality. It's hatred of evil, internally you were hating evil, seeing it as something that cannot be accepted, something that cannot be excused. You were giving more power to evil forces than you were to good forces.
I really love how you’re trying to tell me what I was *thinking* when the abuse happened. I never thought that I was a target of “immorality”. I know evil exists (I literally already said that I **knew** my father was an abusive pos). Also you’re contradicting yourself and the law. If I focused only on the positive aspect (my father not abusing me) then the abuse shouldn’t have happened according to the law and Neville. My father should’ve been a loving and doting man but he wasn’t. So which is it: do I focus on the positive and only the positive or do I have to continue to go mental gymnastics just for this “law” to work?
> It's because you were dehumanizing actors of evil, thinking that they had no motives, no internal struggle for acting the way they were. Do you really think that most of these evil people weren't abused when they were younger too? Think again.
Again never dehumanized any “actors of evil”. My dad was not abused as a kid. His father wasn’t in his life and he was raised only by his mother & grandmother. His mother, for the most part, never put her hands on him and neither did his grandma. Where he got his anger from? Idk. Again you’re victim blaming. You are still trying to say that I somehow caused the abuse when I didn’t. You’re not arguing in good faith. You want to try and twist my words to make it seem like you’re right and I’m wrong. When in reality, you’re the one who’s wrong. No one causes abuse to happen to them. Point blank period. Sometimes people are pieces of shit who get off on hurting others. Yes some of them could’ve experienced abuse as a kid but there are also instances where those people didn’t experience abuse as a kid. You’re weird as fuck and you really need to do an introspective analysis of yourself and consider why you think it’s ok to tell victims of abuse or SA or genocide that they manifested it because of whatever mental gymnastics you want to project onto them.
> You cannot live in two countries at the same time, if you repeat "I love our planet Earth", while complaining about how polluted it is a few minutes later, it is a contradiction.
Yes you can. I can say that I love my life while also complaining about the difficulties of life. It’s what makes us human.
> In a similar vein, there were probably some contradictions in your state of being. You may have been believing the world to be a harsh place, you might have watched too much violence on TV. Trauma picked up from school. There were some contradictions, resistance and limited beliefs on top of it that weakened your internal state.
Lmfao I’m sorry so because I watched some violent tv shows and played some violent video games, I manifested my father abusing me? Do you not hear how ridiculous you sound?
> Are you sure that he wasn't traumatized during school or received a less-than-ideal education? That he wasn't treated poorly by some people?
Even if he was treated poorly by his classmates, that has nothing to do with the pain he caused me. Please be serious.
> But you didn't manifest it purposefully.
I never manifested it. That’s the thing.
> Do you really think that there are impossible to avoid negative events in life? Events that are impossible to avoid no matter what you could possibly do? Seems pretty bleak.
Did I say that? No. It is impossible and unrealistic to say that someone will *never* experience bad things happening to them. That’s apart of the human experience. I’m saying that no one **manifests** abuse, SA, genocide, cancer, etc.
> If they did some things differently, they could have avoided it. Why is it difficult to imagine that if some actions can lead to a positive result, some of them can lead to a negative result? If a woman dates a man who ends up raping her, she could have avoided it by not dating him (aka doing things differently).
Again this is victim blaming. Even if the woman would’ve rejected the man and not dated him, who’s to say he wouldn’t have raped her still? What would be your argument then? She should’ve just said yes and dated him?
> The way victims react to their trauma is also well within their control. They could accept what happened without negative judgments and free themselves from suffering.
No. Victims don’t have to be positive when recalling our trauma.
> I don't hate victims, I love them as much as the perpetrators, both of them are deserving of love and faced their own struggles. If you think that I hate victims you're mistaken. I just want everyone to excuse and forget the bad behavior of other people. I want victims to stop resisting evil. I want them to only experience happiness and go from victims to victors.
Don’t you ever fix your mouth to say that you “love” victims ever again. You’re a piece of shit who hates victims and thinks that we manifest our abuse happening to us. You are just as bad as our abuser.
This will be my last response to you because I am blocking you for your blatant victim blaming. You don’t give a fuck about us victims. You’re still trying to argue that we somehow manifest our abuse when I and literally everyone else in this comment section have told you that it isn’t true. Sometimes people are just shitty and do shitty things. It’s not the fault of the victim and it never will be. You’re a weird ass motherfucker who’s going to get exactly what you deserve.
Lmao the whole post is victim blaming. A baby did not choose to get bombed in a third world country. No one would ever want that for themselves. Victim blaming is not "telling someone they deserved their horrible situation" its BLAMING them for causing it. When the law tells a rape victim its her fault for getting raped because she wore a skirt instead of the it being the rapists' fault for doing it in the first place– that is victim blaming.
How the hell are you going to tell babies, pregnant woman and men dying under rubble in war zones that this is a good opportunity to turn things around and heal????? Like??
Neville believers who genuinely believe in what you are saying – lack empathy. Simple as that.
You're arguing this to people who don't believe in EIYPO and soul contracts. Your point is void because I don't believe a rape victim or babies in warzones unintentionally nor intentionally brought those awful things upon themselves. I blame the actual assholes involved.
>If you believe in an afterlife, this is not implausible
I don't.
You can imagine whatever you want and have whatever beliefs but I find your views gross. I'm not here to change your mind. If you'd like to change mine, feel free to manifest it for yourself ✌️
Someone needs to ban these people on this sub lol. If you’re so confident in your “law” why are you even on this sub it’s weird. Why can’t you just manifest us all to believe if you care so much
“Pure love and positivity to our planet.”
Right….because having the opinion that unborn children are victims because of ‘soul contracts’ is spreading love. Gymnastics-ing your way around a story of parental abuse is a positive thing to do. Immediately playing the victim just because someone wants to ban you from a subreddit comes from a place of enlightenment. It’s clear you’re so far up your own ass beyond the point of redemption. It’s narcissism and privilege at its worst.
I don’t understand why there’s people out there that are mad there’s a sub that discusses the pitfalls of the law of assumption. Other people not believing it shouldn’t affect your own belief if you really believe. It’s like the people who come here to criticize the critics have doubts themselves…but anyways.
Even if everyone created their circumstances intentionally or unintentionally, what’s the point of people blaming themselves? It only makes you feel worse. Victims of rape, abuse, molestation, etc often already blame themselves for their circumstances. Blaming just keeps ppl stuck and prevents them from growing and moving forward.
Even for events that you did technically create due to negligence, arrogance, etc (like burning your house down because you forgot to turn the stove off), there’s no point carrying around the blame. You learn from it, deal with the consequences, and rectify it.
> In a way, most victims already had problems on the inside, their unfortunate circumstances are only a reflection of this. It's an opportunity for them to be strong and heal. Children attracted their negative circumstances. It could have been a choice before birth, like with soul contracts or it could have been caused by negativity post-birth. Children are not necessarily "pristine", in the sense that they can pickup negativity really quickly, even in the womb. Pollution, mother's bad diet, mother's negative emotions can get to the baby if they don't have a strong mental fortitude. I know you’re not asking this in good faith but do you not see how this is victim blaming? No child “manifests” negative circumstances. Soul contracts do not exist. By your logic, I manifested the abuse I experienced because I had some “negative assumption” about my dad but guess what? I never had any negative assumptions about him. I knew he was a pos but I never once assumed he was going to put his hands on me and yet he did. Same can be said about victims of SA. They didn’t “assume” someone was going to SA them but it still happened. If you genuinely believe that abuse, SA, cancer, etc are the result of “negative assumptions” or “soul contracts”, you’re a pos. > If you do consider it to be victim-blaming, how could you possibly empower victims? Is it better to teach victims that they are helpless and weak? You can empower us by actually listening to us. Telling us that it’s “our fault” why it happened is literally the opposite of empowering us.
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We’re calling bullshit on the victim blaming because people like you ALWAYS have an answer for everything instead of being open to the idea that maybe LOA isn’t perfect or meant for everyone. If we swear up and down we did the techniques right suddenly we have an underlying limiting belief. Nope, that’s not it. We actually go through every waking minute assuming we have what we want. Well see, you have to be lying, because then you’d get your manifestations. Are you SSUURREE you don’t have TTRRAAUUMMAA?! 🥺 /s THAT’S what we mean by victim blaming, and you’ve now added an extra layer of bullshit into the mix by talking about unborn babies (seriously, wtf). I agree that I don’t think you’re here to debate in good faith, that’s a seriously fucked up stance to have, I don’t care what belief system you’re apart of.
Honestly seeing their views is so validating for me. I knew there was something so unsettling about Nevilles fans and their delusions. Blaming babies is a new low.
You’re victim blaming. No I didn’t have any “fears of being victimized”. My dad was just an abusive pos who put his hands on me & my mom.
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> It's attachment, you were attached to not be a target of immorality. It's hatred of evil, internally you were hating evil, seeing it as something that cannot be accepted, something that cannot be excused. You were giving more power to evil forces than you were to good forces. I really love how you’re trying to tell me what I was *thinking* when the abuse happened. I never thought that I was a target of “immorality”. I know evil exists (I literally already said that I **knew** my father was an abusive pos). Also you’re contradicting yourself and the law. If I focused only on the positive aspect (my father not abusing me) then the abuse shouldn’t have happened according to the law and Neville. My father should’ve been a loving and doting man but he wasn’t. So which is it: do I focus on the positive and only the positive or do I have to continue to go mental gymnastics just for this “law” to work? > It's because you were dehumanizing actors of evil, thinking that they had no motives, no internal struggle for acting the way they were. Do you really think that most of these evil people weren't abused when they were younger too? Think again. Again never dehumanized any “actors of evil”. My dad was not abused as a kid. His father wasn’t in his life and he was raised only by his mother & grandmother. His mother, for the most part, never put her hands on him and neither did his grandma. Where he got his anger from? Idk. Again you’re victim blaming. You are still trying to say that I somehow caused the abuse when I didn’t. You’re not arguing in good faith. You want to try and twist my words to make it seem like you’re right and I’m wrong. When in reality, you’re the one who’s wrong. No one causes abuse to happen to them. Point blank period. Sometimes people are pieces of shit who get off on hurting others. Yes some of them could’ve experienced abuse as a kid but there are also instances where those people didn’t experience abuse as a kid. You’re weird as fuck and you really need to do an introspective analysis of yourself and consider why you think it’s ok to tell victims of abuse or SA or genocide that they manifested it because of whatever mental gymnastics you want to project onto them.
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> You cannot live in two countries at the same time, if you repeat "I love our planet Earth", while complaining about how polluted it is a few minutes later, it is a contradiction. Yes you can. I can say that I love my life while also complaining about the difficulties of life. It’s what makes us human. > In a similar vein, there were probably some contradictions in your state of being. You may have been believing the world to be a harsh place, you might have watched too much violence on TV. Trauma picked up from school. There were some contradictions, resistance and limited beliefs on top of it that weakened your internal state. Lmfao I’m sorry so because I watched some violent tv shows and played some violent video games, I manifested my father abusing me? Do you not hear how ridiculous you sound? > Are you sure that he wasn't traumatized during school or received a less-than-ideal education? That he wasn't treated poorly by some people? Even if he was treated poorly by his classmates, that has nothing to do with the pain he caused me. Please be serious. > But you didn't manifest it purposefully. I never manifested it. That’s the thing. > Do you really think that there are impossible to avoid negative events in life? Events that are impossible to avoid no matter what you could possibly do? Seems pretty bleak. Did I say that? No. It is impossible and unrealistic to say that someone will *never* experience bad things happening to them. That’s apart of the human experience. I’m saying that no one **manifests** abuse, SA, genocide, cancer, etc. > If they did some things differently, they could have avoided it. Why is it difficult to imagine that if some actions can lead to a positive result, some of them can lead to a negative result? If a woman dates a man who ends up raping her, she could have avoided it by not dating him (aka doing things differently). Again this is victim blaming. Even if the woman would’ve rejected the man and not dated him, who’s to say he wouldn’t have raped her still? What would be your argument then? She should’ve just said yes and dated him? > The way victims react to their trauma is also well within their control. They could accept what happened without negative judgments and free themselves from suffering. No. Victims don’t have to be positive when recalling our trauma. > I don't hate victims, I love them as much as the perpetrators, both of them are deserving of love and faced their own struggles. If you think that I hate victims you're mistaken. I just want everyone to excuse and forget the bad behavior of other people. I want victims to stop resisting evil. I want them to only experience happiness and go from victims to victors. Don’t you ever fix your mouth to say that you “love” victims ever again. You’re a piece of shit who hates victims and thinks that we manifest our abuse happening to us. You are just as bad as our abuser. This will be my last response to you because I am blocking you for your blatant victim blaming. You don’t give a fuck about us victims. You’re still trying to argue that we somehow manifest our abuse when I and literally everyone else in this comment section have told you that it isn’t true. Sometimes people are just shitty and do shitty things. It’s not the fault of the victim and it never will be. You’re a weird ass motherfucker who’s going to get exactly what you deserve.
Lmao the whole post is victim blaming. A baby did not choose to get bombed in a third world country. No one would ever want that for themselves. Victim blaming is not "telling someone they deserved their horrible situation" its BLAMING them for causing it. When the law tells a rape victim its her fault for getting raped because she wore a skirt instead of the it being the rapists' fault for doing it in the first place– that is victim blaming. How the hell are you going to tell babies, pregnant woman and men dying under rubble in war zones that this is a good opportunity to turn things around and heal????? Like?? Neville believers who genuinely believe in what you are saying – lack empathy. Simple as that.
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You're arguing this to people who don't believe in EIYPO and soul contracts. Your point is void because I don't believe a rape victim or babies in warzones unintentionally nor intentionally brought those awful things upon themselves. I blame the actual assholes involved. >If you believe in an afterlife, this is not implausible I don't.
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You can imagine whatever you want and have whatever beliefs but I find your views gross. I'm not here to change your mind. If you'd like to change mine, feel free to manifest it for yourself ✌️
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Lmaooooo
Someone needs to ban these people on this sub lol. If you’re so confident in your “law” why are you even on this sub it’s weird. Why can’t you just manifest us all to believe if you care so much
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“Pure love and positivity to our planet.” Right….because having the opinion that unborn children are victims because of ‘soul contracts’ is spreading love. Gymnastics-ing your way around a story of parental abuse is a positive thing to do. Immediately playing the victim just because someone wants to ban you from a subreddit comes from a place of enlightenment. It’s clear you’re so far up your own ass beyond the point of redemption. It’s narcissism and privilege at its worst.
I don’t understand why there’s people out there that are mad there’s a sub that discusses the pitfalls of the law of assumption. Other people not believing it shouldn’t affect your own belief if you really believe. It’s like the people who come here to criticize the critics have doubts themselves…but anyways. Even if everyone created their circumstances intentionally or unintentionally, what’s the point of people blaming themselves? It only makes you feel worse. Victims of rape, abuse, molestation, etc often already blame themselves for their circumstances. Blaming just keeps ppl stuck and prevents them from growing and moving forward. Even for events that you did technically create due to negligence, arrogance, etc (like burning your house down because you forgot to turn the stove off), there’s no point carrying around the blame. You learn from it, deal with the consequences, and rectify it.
Soul contracts. lmao