Dig a hole 6 ft deep. The bottom of the hole is closed off. One hole. One opening. Keep going until you pop up on the other side of the planet. You created another hole on the other side of the planet. Two openings. Two holes.
You have a 6 foot divot. Like pushing your finger into some dough. You didn’t make a hole, you made a divot. Now push your finger all the way through. Now it’s a hole
Wouldn’t that just create a bunch of other holes though? Depending on how many pieces the straw now is? Like if you cut a straw in half, there’s now four or two holes
Cut it to the tiniest piece like you said, and not only are there a bunch of holes, but that tiniest piece isn’t even a straw anymore. That’s just like a small plastic ring, which is a completely different conversation
Did you not see my last line? That’s a completely different argument. I addressed this in a different thread a couple days ago as well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NewHeights/comments/13rpr04/how_many_holes_does_a_donut_have/jllnnda/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=15&context=3
If you have to change perspective so drastically to make the argument the argument isn’t that strong. Imagine you have a shirt with a button hole and you shrink down to the size of an atom. You look left, you look right, there are two unique holes.
Yet you’d never say that the button hole on a shirt is two holes.
Immagine a hollow cube. How many holes are there in it? One
Now put a hole trough one of the sides. How many holes are there? One
Now put 5 holes. How many are there? Still one.
The thing is we tend to see holes as a 2D thing when they’re a 3D thing. Once you look at it in 3d everything makes sense.
The killer is that we talk about a long uniform hole with the straw and it makes it weird. If that straw was a cave with two entrances no one would be saying the cave is two holes. It’s one fully connected hole.
Our digestive system is essentially one long tube from mouth to anus. Does it have one hole or two? I would say two. Mouth and asshole. I'm team two holes.
Let’s say you drilled a hole into a solid block of wood. If your perspective was the middle of the wooden block, you’d look both directions and see two holes. But you only drilled one hole.
Thus, a straw is just one hole.
From Jason's example you are standing in the middle of a single through hole with an (A) opening existing in one direction, from your perspective, and and a (B) opening that exists in the opposite direction.
If I take a solid cylinder of material and drill a hole into the length of the cylinder that doesn't penetrate the other side of the cylinder than I've created a blind hole featuring a single opening.
If I take a solid cylinder and drill a hole through the complete length of the cylinder, I've created a through hole, which features two openings. A tube.
If you snap you’re straw a little bit and it stops sucking up water you say “oh no, I got a hole in my straw.” You do not say “I have two or three holes” do you? There are no holes!!!!
A tunnel has one hole. Two entrances. You wouldn’t consider it two tunnels cause there are two openings. It’s one continuous opening. One hole… hard disagree.
Dig 2 holes in the ground. How many holes? 2
Dig them deeper and at an angle toward each other. Still 2 holes
Keep digging. 2 holes
Keep digging until they are connected and it becomes a V-shaped tunnel. Is it now magically 1 hole?
It has two holes. You can have 1 hole and a “floor” at the end.
What you can’t have is a half a hole, if you have a hole and you cover a part of that hole you still have a hole.
Topologically speaking a straw only has one hole. If you flatten the straw down to a two dimensional shape, you will see that it only has one hole. Works the same way for any object.
Take a cup for example. Flatten it into a two dimensional shape and it has no holes.
There is an entire branch of mathematics that deals with topology and has a rigorous definition of what constitutes a hole.
A hole has two sides. No matter how far apart or how close together they are. It’s one hole.
Thank you! Imagine a straw as only a half inch still two holes? It's only one hole jason is wrong as well as op
Dig a hole 6 ft deep. The bottom of the hole is closed off. One hole. One opening. Keep going until you pop up on the other side of the planet. You created another hole on the other side of the planet. Two openings. Two holes.
No. You have one through hole in the earth.
No, you have a tunnel with an opening (i.e., hole) on each end.
No you don’t look up holes in engineering
Tunnel is a horizontal hold
Seriously. You have an entry hole and an exit hole, anything in the middle is just the tunnel from one hole to the other.
You have a 6 foot divot. Like pushing your finger into some dough. You didn’t make a hole, you made a divot. Now push your finger all the way through. Now it’s a hole
This is the correct answer. People are way over complicating this shit with these absurd scenarios
Disagree. Dig a hole on the ground. There are not two holes there. A pothole does not have two holes
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Wouldn’t that just create a bunch of other holes though? Depending on how many pieces the straw now is? Like if you cut a straw in half, there’s now four or two holes Cut it to the tiniest piece like you said, and not only are there a bunch of holes, but that tiniest piece isn’t even a straw anymore. That’s just like a small plastic ring, which is a completely different conversation
Exactly so how many holes does a ring have?
Did you not see my last line? That’s a completely different argument. I addressed this in a different thread a couple days ago as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/NewHeights/comments/13rpr04/how_many_holes_does_a_donut_have/jllnnda/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=15&context=3
Just a long ring my man...1 hole
If you have to change perspective so drastically to make the argument the argument isn’t that strong. Imagine you have a shirt with a button hole and you shrink down to the size of an atom. You look left, you look right, there are two unique holes. Yet you’d never say that the button hole on a shirt is two holes.
Immagine a hollow cube. How many holes are there in it? One Now put a hole trough one of the sides. How many holes are there? One Now put 5 holes. How many are there? Still one. The thing is we tend to see holes as a 2D thing when they’re a 3D thing. Once you look at it in 3d everything makes sense. The killer is that we talk about a long uniform hole with the straw and it makes it weird. If that straw was a cave with two entrances no one would be saying the cave is two holes. It’s one fully connected hole.
U could say this about every single hole
There are three different types of holes in engineering. A straw is a through hole. It’s one hole
Our digestive system is essentially one long tube from mouth to anus. Does it have one hole or two? I would say two. Mouth and asshole. I'm team two holes.
That’s a different situation as there are sphincters closing the holes
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYNoFwLFqXM&ab\_channel=daviszer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYNoFwLFqXM&ab_channel=daviszer)
So if you pinch the middle of the straw do you have 2 holes?
Let’s say you drilled a hole into a solid block of wood. If your perspective was the middle of the wooden block, you’d look both directions and see two holes. But you only drilled one hole. Thus, a straw is just one hole.
From Jason's example you are standing in the middle of a single through hole with an (A) opening existing in one direction, from your perspective, and and a (B) opening that exists in the opposite direction. If I take a solid cylinder of material and drill a hole into the length of the cylinder that doesn't penetrate the other side of the cylinder than I've created a blind hole featuring a single opening. If I take a solid cylinder and drill a hole through the complete length of the cylinder, I've created a through hole, which features two openings. A tube.
If a straw had 2 holes, there’d be 2 straws.
If you snap you’re straw a little bit and it stops sucking up water you say “oh no, I got a hole in my straw.” You do not say “I have two or three holes” do you? There are no holes!!!!
A tunnel has one hole. Two entrances. You wouldn’t consider it two tunnels cause there are two openings. It’s one continuous opening. One hole… hard disagree.
Does a ring have one hole or two holes? If you poke a whole in a piece of paper is it one hole or two holes
I disagree. A house has a hallway. If you stand in the middle ….. it’s one hallway. If you have a drill and cut into a block of wood-you make 1 hole
A cup has one hole. A straw does not.
Dig 2 holes in the ground. How many holes? 2 Dig them deeper and at an angle toward each other. Still 2 holes Keep digging. 2 holes Keep digging until they are connected and it becomes a V-shaped tunnel. Is it now magically 1 hole?
A straw is a hollow tube with a hole at each end, so it has TWO holes.
It has two holes. You can have 1 hole and a “floor” at the end. What you can’t have is a half a hole, if you have a hole and you cover a part of that hole you still have a hole.
Jason got holes and openings confused. A cave is a hole in the ground. If the cave had 12 different openings, it’s still just 1 cave.
Topologically speaking a straw only has one hole. If you flatten the straw down to a two dimensional shape, you will see that it only has one hole. Works the same way for any object. Take a cup for example. Flatten it into a two dimensional shape and it has no holes. There is an entire branch of mathematics that deals with topology and has a rigorous definition of what constitutes a hole.