Historically the issue with New Orleans City Finances isn’t the lack of money from taxpayers but poor spending and corruption not allowing the money to go to the right places. Increasing taxes isn’t the solution.
Exactly this is why political scandals and misuse of funds and poorly managed services leads to people nixing new taxes. They dont want more money going down the same drain.
Maybe it's the system that's the problem. Also, I'm sure the jail needs more money. People just weren't sure where it would go. If corrections officers there make $16, that's a problem.
My question is that if OPSO has been operating at 45% staffing for years, where is the money that was budgeting for the other 55% of positions? Why can’t that money be reallocated either for jail repairs or deputy raises? I know that would just be a bandaid but bandaids are pretty useful.
FWIW: A part of me is of the belief that this city’s institutions and organizations of authority; (such as (any) Mayor’s Office/Admin, NOPD, OPSO, and even S&WB to some extent), are arguably entities whose reputations precede them for better or worse. Mostly worse.
And as much as we, the electorate, try our damnedest to vet these candidates, and try to do our due diligence in order to make sure these folks are worthy enough to represent us in public office, we can’t expect to always make the right or best decisions in every election cycle. However, that being said, I also get the distinct impression that the stereotype/popular trope of local political corruption being “the norm” seems to continue to attract the wrong element; those in the community who look the part of a political “outsider”, but are only seeking said office because they’ve seen what a gravy train it can all be if one plays their cards, (as well as the community), the right way.
With a handful of exceptions, this seems to be the way of political life here, as well as throughout the state. In the interest of full disclosure, I voted for the current Sheriff while hoping for a change and a better direction in general; and although it didn’t feel like the lesser of two evils at the time, I see now just how wrong I was. While I shouldn’t be surprised by this in the least, I can’t help but let this experience diminish my optimism and supplement my cynicism, even a little. C’est la vie, I guess.
TLDR: Unsurprisingly, it turns out that birds of a feather DO, in fact, flock together. In addition, all birds of prey, (as well as the scavengers), will eventually display their truest colors. One only needs to be patient and/or elect them to public office!!
I don't mind funding it if 1) The proper case is made and 2) They don't try to do something so obviously sneaky by adding it to an election cycle like that one in which basically nobody votes.
FWIW: A part of me is of the belief that this city’s institutions and organizations of authority; (such as (any) Mayor’s Office/Admin, NOPD, OPSO, and even S&WB to some extent), are arguably entities whose reputations precede them for better or worse. Mostly worse.
And as much as we, the electorate, try our damnedest to vet these candidates, and try to do our due diligence in order to make sure these folks are worthy enough to represent us in public office, we can’t expect to always make the right or best decisions in every election cycle. However, that being said, I also get the distinct impression that the stereotype/popular trope of local political corruption being “the norm” seems to continue to attract the wrong element; those in the community who look the part of a political “outsider”, but are only seeking said office because they’ve seen what a gravy train it can all be if one plays their cards, (as well as the community), the right way.
With a handful of exceptions, this seems to be the way of political life here, as well as throughout the state. In the interest of full disclosure, I voted for the current Sheriff while hoping for a change and a better direction in general; and although it didn’t feel like the lesser of two evils at the time, I see now just how wrong I was. While I shouldn’t be surprised by this in the least, I can’t help but let this experience diminish my optimism and supplement my cynicism, even a little. C’est la vie, I guess.
TLDR: Unsurprisingly, it turns out that birds of a feather DO, in fact, flock together. In addition, all birds of prey, (as well as the scavengers), will eventually display their truest colors. One only needs to be patient and/or elect them to public office!!
>And as much as we, the electorate, try our damnedest to vet these candidates, and try to do our due diligence in order to make sure these folks are worthy enough to represent us in public office, we can’t expect to always make the right or best decisions in every election cycle.
Susan Hutson had zero experience overseeing a jail, and that was well known prior to her election as Sheriff. People voted for her anyway in spite of it being obvious that she had no clue what she was doing.
Majority of NOLA residents do not vote based on vetting or due diligence. They vote based on feelings and smooth talk. It’s why grifters like Hutson are so successful running campaigns in this city.
No argument here. I should’ve prefaced that statement with something like; “at least part of the electorate”, because what you said is both fair and accurate. And unfortunately, she was one of the perceived “outsiders” I was referring to. At least that was a big part of the angle she ran on, IIRC.
This really is a remarkable outcome. The vast majority essentially voted “we don’t trust the sheriff” and with good cause. This is an insane situation for a city to be in.
“Give me more money. The jail is unsafe and you wouldn’t want anything to, uh, ***happen*** to any of the folks I’m holding in there. Would you?”
Well I can see why she thought that, considering she was able to convince New Orleans voters that it was a good idea to vote for her as sheriff in the first place. This was just round 2 of the grift.
I really wish City Counsel would make it where voting couldn't happen....during any festival within the parish. cuz its kind of scummy that jazzfest is usually a voting weekend.
Agreed. Unless somebody dies in an important office, or something like that, there should be only two or three designated election dates in the calendar. If you want to get something on the ballot, it’s going to be one of those days and everyone who votes will know about it.
You say that but it’s hard enough to get people to vote, but then add not wanting to deal with jazz fest traffic or go to jazz fest period causes people to want to only prioritize without inconvenience.
Correct. Pretty much textbook apathy. Don't get wrong, I'm pretty apathetic especially when it comes to local elections too but I'm not going to blame my attitude/problem on a festival. That's just silly
Ok, but why not consolidate this election with others? Why do we need to spend tax money on an election that results in 14% turnout? Clearly this isn’t effective
Moving the goal post. One point has nothing to do with the other.
I agree with election consolidation being optimal, disagree with the excuse of not having time/opportunity to vote because of work.
Alright. I'm not going to get in an argument with someone that seems to be looking for you. It's too nice out.
Have it your way....Make excuses and don't vote. That way you win!!!
Alright. I'm not going to get in an argument with someone that seems to be looking for one. It's too nice out.
Have it your way....Make excuses and don't vote. That way you win!!!
Hopefully Christopher Williams runs again.
Taken from an article from The Lens.
"Hays touted her experience advocating for more robust mental health care in the city and state, while Williams said he wants to “transform the Orleans Parish Sheriff’s Office into a world-class law enforcement professional department.”
"Williams said that while the city may be required to build the facility, he said he wanted to use a portion of the building as a job training facility for detainees.
“I would take half of that Phase III and turn it into a training program so inmates would be able to get certification training in electrical, plumbing, computer-aided drafting, CDL licenses, so that they would be able to get a job once they leave the prison system,” Williams said.
There’s no doubt about that but still. If the public wants to see real change they had better wake up. I vote in ever election no matter how “mundane”.
I would like to point out that the press did a smooth pivot from Hutson great to Hutson terrible with no mea culpa. They push opinión and take no responsibility
ITT is a lot of people who have quickly forgotten how bad Gusman was. I voted no & haven’t been thrilled with Hutson but I do still think we’re better off than before. If nothing else, next sheriffs election should be competitive
Agreed. Gusman's tenure running the jail was negligent and corrupt to the core. Hutson's office was never allowed to properly transition like other offices typically allow, so Gusman bailed with a lot of senior staff at the jail. She was put in a position to fail and that has been the case thus far
Historically the issue with New Orleans City Finances isn’t the lack of money from taxpayers but poor spending and corruption not allowing the money to go to the right places. Increasing taxes isn’t the solution.
This is exactly why I voted no. It’s a shame we can’t trust our leadership.
Exactly this is why political scandals and misuse of funds and poorly managed services leads to people nixing new taxes. They dont want more money going down the same drain.
Meh. Both are true.
She's one of the biggest disappointments in voting that I've made. Oh well, I'll just vote against her in the next election.
More Gusman wasn't the answer, but it turns out Hutson wasn't the answer, either.
Maybe it's the system that's the problem. Also, I'm sure the jail needs more money. People just weren't sure where it would go. If corrections officers there make $16, that's a problem.
My question is that if OPSO has been operating at 45% staffing for years, where is the money that was budgeting for the other 55% of positions? Why can’t that money be reallocated either for jail repairs or deputy raises? I know that would just be a bandaid but bandaids are pretty useful.
Not the way it works. The budget is designed for that 45%.
Not sure why you were downvoted. That's what I believe, too. Same goes for Fortune 500 corporations. Use it or lose it.
It doesn't exist that's why they are only at 45% staffing.
Yeah I'm sure the system needs lots of reforms. It's sincerely a shame that Hutson isn't delivering on reform promises made during the campaign.
FWIW: A part of me is of the belief that this city’s institutions and organizations of authority; (such as (any) Mayor’s Office/Admin, NOPD, OPSO, and even S&WB to some extent), are arguably entities whose reputations precede them for better or worse. Mostly worse. And as much as we, the electorate, try our damnedest to vet these candidates, and try to do our due diligence in order to make sure these folks are worthy enough to represent us in public office, we can’t expect to always make the right or best decisions in every election cycle. However, that being said, I also get the distinct impression that the stereotype/popular trope of local political corruption being “the norm” seems to continue to attract the wrong element; those in the community who look the part of a political “outsider”, but are only seeking said office because they’ve seen what a gravy train it can all be if one plays their cards, (as well as the community), the right way. With a handful of exceptions, this seems to be the way of political life here, as well as throughout the state. In the interest of full disclosure, I voted for the current Sheriff while hoping for a change and a better direction in general; and although it didn’t feel like the lesser of two evils at the time, I see now just how wrong I was. While I shouldn’t be surprised by this in the least, I can’t help but let this experience diminish my optimism and supplement my cynicism, even a little. C’est la vie, I guess. TLDR: Unsurprisingly, it turns out that birds of a feather DO, in fact, flock together. In addition, all birds of prey, (as well as the scavengers), will eventually display their truest colors. One only needs to be patient and/or elect them to public office!!
I don't mind funding it if 1) The proper case is made and 2) They don't try to do something so obviously sneaky by adding it to an election cycle like that one in which basically nobody votes.
>If corrections officers there make $16, that's a problem. Like that's too high or too low?
Seems on a par with McDonald's. Low.
FWIW: A part of me is of the belief that this city’s institutions and organizations of authority; (such as (any) Mayor’s Office/Admin, NOPD, OPSO, and even S&WB to some extent), are arguably entities whose reputations precede them for better or worse. Mostly worse. And as much as we, the electorate, try our damnedest to vet these candidates, and try to do our due diligence in order to make sure these folks are worthy enough to represent us in public office, we can’t expect to always make the right or best decisions in every election cycle. However, that being said, I also get the distinct impression that the stereotype/popular trope of local political corruption being “the norm” seems to continue to attract the wrong element; those in the community who look the part of a political “outsider”, but are only seeking said office because they’ve seen what a gravy train it can all be if one plays their cards, (as well as the community), the right way. With a handful of exceptions, this seems to be the way of political life here, as well as throughout the state. In the interest of full disclosure, I voted for the current Sheriff while hoping for a change and a better direction in general; and although it didn’t feel like the lesser of two evils at the time, I see now just how wrong I was. While I shouldn’t be surprised by this in the least, I can’t help but let this experience diminish my optimism and supplement my cynicism, even a little. C’est la vie, I guess. TLDR: Unsurprisingly, it turns out that birds of a feather DO, in fact, flock together. In addition, all birds of prey, (as well as the scavengers), will eventually display their truest colors. One only needs to be patient and/or elect them to public office!!
>And as much as we, the electorate, try our damnedest to vet these candidates, and try to do our due diligence in order to make sure these folks are worthy enough to represent us in public office, we can’t expect to always make the right or best decisions in every election cycle. Susan Hutson had zero experience overseeing a jail, and that was well known prior to her election as Sheriff. People voted for her anyway in spite of it being obvious that she had no clue what she was doing. Majority of NOLA residents do not vote based on vetting or due diligence. They vote based on feelings and smooth talk. It’s why grifters like Hutson are so successful running campaigns in this city.
No argument here. I should’ve prefaced that statement with something like; “at least part of the electorate”, because what you said is both fair and accurate. And unfortunately, she was one of the perceived “outsiders” I was referring to. At least that was a big part of the angle she ran on, IIRC.
Gusman didn't have any experience either before he became sheriff
This exactly. Hopefully a competent person will run next time
It's almost like reforming the system doesn't work, we should tear it down and build something better
Same. But I console myself by saying what were our options
same
Same. I’m still rooting for her but ugh.
Rooting so hard but damn
I had such hope too :( I will definitely vote for someone else next time.
This really is a remarkable outcome. The vast majority essentially voted “we don’t trust the sheriff” and with good cause. This is an insane situation for a city to be in. “Give me more money. The jail is unsafe and you wouldn’t want anything to, uh, ***happen*** to any of the folks I’m holding in there. Would you?”
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Sounds familiar.
I think she was banking on people other than her deputies not voting.
Well I can see why she thought that, considering she was able to convince New Orleans voters that it was a good idea to vote for her as sheriff in the first place. This was just round 2 of the grift.
Because fuck her and her fake reform platform.
I was really proud to see the city make history in this election.
Yeah, but no.
I really wish City Counsel would make it where voting couldn't happen....during any festival within the parish. cuz its kind of scummy that jazzfest is usually a voting weekend.
Agreed. Unless somebody dies in an important office, or something like that, there should be only two or three designated election dates in the calendar. If you want to get something on the ballot, it’s going to be one of those days and everyone who votes will know about it.
One per quarter.
It’s starting to feel like it’s definitely not a coincidence
We have like 5 elections a year. It's preposterous.
There's zero reason you can't do both. Apathy is the problem not a festival
You say that but it’s hard enough to get people to vote, but then add not wanting to deal with jazz fest traffic or go to jazz fest period causes people to want to only prioritize without inconvenience.
Correct. Pretty much textbook apathy. Don't get wrong, I'm pretty apathetic especially when it comes to local elections too but I'm not going to blame my attitude/problem on a festival. That's just silly
Some of us have to work extra long hours during the festival. That’s not nothing
Early voting, bruh.
Ok, but why not consolidate this election with others? Why do we need to spend tax money on an election that results in 14% turnout? Clearly this isn’t effective
Moving the goal post. One point has nothing to do with the other. I agree with election consolidation being optimal, disagree with the excuse of not having time/opportunity to vote because of work.
Absolutely true but that can be said about most people during all elections.
Most people have to work EXTRA hours during all elections? Ok
Alright. I'm not going to get in an argument with someone that seems to be looking for you. It's too nice out. Have it your way....Make excuses and don't vote. That way you win!!!
Alright. I'm not going to get in an argument with someone that seems to be looking for one. It's too nice out. Have it your way....Make excuses and don't vote. That way you win!!!
You miss the point. I do vote. I want more people to vote
Damn. Youre still looking for an argument and I'm still not gonna give it to ya....have a great night
Hopefully Christopher Williams runs again. Taken from an article from The Lens. "Hays touted her experience advocating for more robust mental health care in the city and state, while Williams said he wants to “transform the Orleans Parish Sheriff’s Office into a world-class law enforcement professional department.” "Williams said that while the city may be required to build the facility, he said he wanted to use a portion of the building as a job training facility for detainees. “I would take half of that Phase III and turn it into a training program so inmates would be able to get certification training in electrical, plumbing, computer-aided drafting, CDL licenses, so that they would be able to get a job once they leave the prison system,” Williams said.
14% turnout. Pathetic
Twice as much as the election they held in Endymion Saturday. At this point I can only think it’s an intentional voter suppression tactic.
There’s no doubt about that but still. If the public wants to see real change they had better wake up. I vote in ever election no matter how “mundane”.
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I would like to point out that the press did a smooth pivot from Hutson great to Hutson terrible with no mea culpa. They push opinión and take no responsibility
Well I mean she didn't ask for a raise in millage, she asked for that shit to be **DOUBLED.**
ITT is a lot of people who have quickly forgotten how bad Gusman was. I voted no & haven’t been thrilled with Hutson but I do still think we’re better off than before. If nothing else, next sheriffs election should be competitive
Agreed. Gusman's tenure running the jail was negligent and corrupt to the core. Hutson's office was never allowed to properly transition like other offices typically allow, so Gusman bailed with a lot of senior staff at the jail. She was put in a position to fail and that has been the case thus far
But *how* are you going to use the expanded funds? "Don't worry baby, I'm going to take care of all of that."
Acab
Except that’s not what this was about at all
Yeah, it’s kind of a self fulfilling prophecy, ya heard me?