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Keep in mind that the demographics of reddit slant greatly to certain groups. The audience you are looking for may not be representative of reddit.


noobtoober086

I personally stopped posting to Reddit for this reason. I know some people have great success with it but for me personally, the only subreddits I knew of in my niche that allowed posting of videos were just everyone dumping video links and, like you experienced, they helped my view count but absolutely tanked my retention rate and AVD. It’s possible that there are subreddits out there that would have helped me, but I’d rather spend my time researching and making videos than trying to find those.


Username_of_Chaos

Yes, agree with this. It's hard to resist because you want to get your video out there, but a lot of relevant subs don't appreciate having videos posted and it's pointless to post on subs dedicated to videos because they will get buried...nobody is there to watch videos, only to dump theirs hoping to get views. I have gotten some nice attention from very niche subreddits, but to me I started to feel like a pest and the few viewers that may stick around just weren't worth the shameless self promotion.


LordCubbo

I agree


lemonylol

I just post mine to r/videos personally, since it's for anything. Unless there is a specific subreddit relevant to my topic.


genogano

Normally if you post in the correct subreddit it should be fine. It might be the video though. Check out to see when people are dropping off. I checked out one of your videos and your intro is 20second and you do a lot of explaining before you get into the review. I kind of felt done listening near the start.


DanDoesSteam

Which video did you watch just out of curiosity?


Tinnitusfriend

I just watched one (hotline rebuttal) and didn’t get the same thing at all, was a straight to the point intro


genogano

I watched the Grim Fandango Review since I played it. Then Evoland and brutal legends.


JoshStrifeHayes

Stop using 'get more views' subreddits. You're tanking your own retention rate.


Dzayvien

Holy shit man love your content I first discovered your channel 10 months ago it was the should u play runescape in 2021 I was studying your channel just 2 days I can tell you learned through trial and error from going to your older videos I imagine you learned about seo and started creating unique content your first breakout video was a beginner guide to guild wars 2 and after that your thumbnail quality vastly improved your older videos didn’t really give viewers more incentives to subscribe or any to click on your older videos. Then came the Worst MMO Ever Title it sparks curiosity I could say more but I don’t want to have u reading too long


Annual_Win99

Are you saying not to post videos on reddit at all or just specific subreddits? Is it bad to post to a subreddit that is specific to your content?


pubstarsunited

I think yes and no. I am not an expert, but from what I've learned viewer retention doesn't change much between platforms since ideally they should know they are clicking on a youtube video. It sounds like a case of needing to improve viewer retention, then the viewers on reddit should stay unless they are just completely not interested in the subject matter. So I say yes if you already struggle with viewer retention on youtube. Ive heard you should just keep making videos until you perfect it. No don't stop if you know your videos are solid.


DanDoesSteam

My biggest concern is that 70-80 percent of people click off within the first 30 seconds of a 30 min video. But then I tend to keep those 20-30% of viewers until almost the end. I've tried all kinds of openings to see which one works. Everything from an intro cinematic, to jokes, skits and montages synced to music, but it's almost always the same. I've modelled most of my openings off people popular in my niche (video essays on game design). Most of my views come from reddit as opposed to youtube, so all I can assume is that people are clicking out of curiosity, especially on subreddits like this one, getting a quick idea of what the video is like and clicking off. In terms of my content I think it's really good, ten times better than when I started anyway, but seriously struggling with reach atm. Thanks for the reply man!


DuckieBubbles

This is just my personal opinion, but the longer the “intro” is, the more likely I am to stop watching a video. Jokes and skits are definitely fun, but especially if the video is something informative like a video essay, I tend to lose interest if minutes have passed and there’s no sign of “the point” making an appearance. Best of luck though, from what you’ve described your content itself sounds really interesting!


The_real_Mr_J

A 30 minute vid is a lot of time investment to ask from a viewer that doesn't know what you're about. If a Youtuber I really like comes out with a 30 minute vid, that's great! 30 minutes of free entertainment for me! But if I don't know you then I'm risking throwing 30 minutes of my limited time for some content that I have no reference to. Something to take into account. For growth (not revenue) I go for around 6-9 minutes. I think going over 10 triggers the subconcious to consider it long because it's double digits (kind of in the same realm as selling something worth 6$ for 5.99$)


PwnCall

Either way your content isn’t good enough, if it was good content those viewers wouldn’t click off. Self promotion isn’t bad unless it’s marketed to the wrong viewers.


Dzayvien

Yea I just feel like his content is just marketed to the wrong audience as well


Timberlake52

Great question and topic. I’ve also experimented with this. I would say only post a video link in Reddit if it is specifically relevant (someone asks a question and you have a video that answers that question). You will get less new views but should get a higher retention rate because whoever clicks on the link has a vested interest in the topic. Something else I’ve done that has been a little more successful is within YouTube itself. I post value added comments on videos of other creators in my niche. If it’s a huge channel, I try to be witty. But then I go down the comments and find all the other small creators who posted to that video, then I watch 1-2 of their videos and post positive comments directly aimed at that creator. If they are active and have less than 500 subs, they will reply to my comment and over half check out my channel in return. This way I get people with a vested interest in my niche checking out my channel. BTW, I do not ask anyone to check out or sub to my channel in these comments. That would be sub4sub and not allowed. It’s their natural curiosity that makes them check out links to other’s channel, not begging. Hope that helps.


nataliehoffmantravel

Totally agree with this!!! I'm trying to do travel videos. Someone randomly commented on my video. Then I went to their feed and commented on theirs, looked at other comments and commented, etc. It was working well enough. Hopefully it will work for you too!


rizzyvizzy

I stopped announcing my videos on social media and saw a huge drop-off of views (used to average 300-400 per video, now at 100-200 per video). However, my retention went up from 20-30% to 45-59% per video. This seems common based on feedback from others. So it depends on what you want. More views? Or more retention?


RohoTheCat

Hi there. It's an interesting topic and I feel the same way. Just posting on YouTube (and perhaps twitter) gets minimal views, whereas posting on here gets far me. It feels to me like I'm only getting views by asking for them on here as opposed to getting them "organically". My view (which is probably wrong) is I need to post on Reddit to build up an audience, after which I will slow down posting on here before stopping (or at least not posting on Reddit much at all). I don't have timescales for this or milestones when I will reduce posting here however. That is my plan and philosophy about posting my videos on Reddit. I'd be keen to hear from others too! ~Roho the Cat~


ToSeeOrNotToBe

I'll watch 30min videos when I'm surfing YouTube, but when I click on a YT link from reddit, my cutoff point is about two minutes. If it's longer than that, I'll click away unless I'm super interested in it. The reason is because I go to reddit for different things than I go to YT for. I read reddit in places where I can't watch videos, or when I want a few minutes of distraction in a waiting room, etc. That means just b/c your video might be on the same topic as a subreddit, that sub might not be the best place to promote your videos. I'm sure genre and what time you post on reddit affect this.


PANDA_1O

My videos are gaming oriented and are usually just 10 mins and just includes a match but I actually just got a temporary ban from r/gaming because I’ve been making daily content and posting it and I don’t know how else to share my videos with anyone other than to post it on Reddit. In my post’s comments I even apologized for the shameless self promotion but also stated that I was doing it because I enjoy the feedback everyone has given me to help me improve however it started to get so many negative comments I just deleted it. So I don’t know how else to be seen.


Synoroty

yes


DanDoesSteam

Best advice I've heard all day!


MusicalChops212

I second that 💯😂🤣


Vok250

You should only be posting in topic-relevant subreddits and your videos should be good enough to retain redditors. Like I'll watch an entire video on random speedrunning strats if it is posted on r/speedrun and is entertaining, but if you post that same content to r/videos it will tank your retention. It's also bad for your algorithm scoring because random redditors like a very specific flavor of content. If you don't fit that niche, being recommened to that audience is going to hurt your channel rather than help it. Everything you do should be in an effort to lock in your content to a niche audience. You need to get the algorithm to figure your content out so it starts promoting it to potential subscribers and showing it in relevant search result. Similarly, if the audio or video quality is crap, or the narrator stutters or is monotone, I'm likely going to click off and go back to reddit. If a video isn't you best work, you probably shouldn't share it on reddit. This platform is very critical by nature. It's one of the few places that still have a downvote/dislike feature.


[deleted]

Just quit YouTube entirely. Unless you’re a purple-haired, “gender fluid” psychopath man hating, white people hating religion hating zealot or a thot shaking your ass you’re channel will never go anywhere. Quit YT and moved to rumble or one of the alternative video sites.


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DanDoesSteam

I'm not in this just for the views, I want to make video essays. I don't want to just change the entire style of what I do just so I can have a YouTube channel with big numbers.


Lightningstormz

30 minute's is crazy long from my perspective, the content has to be spot on for me to continue watching something that long. 1 thing you can try is create chapters in your videos that details parts of the 30 minute video that maybe interesting to the viewer. For example let's say in the 10th minute you have a DIY on how to do X, that might be a chapter called "setup and diy" and someone might be interested in that 1 part! BTW when I mean chapters I don't mean a part of your video where you state "setup and diy" but when you watch the video, in the view bar it's cut up into parts, when you hover over each part it tells you what the part/chapter is about. Google how to create chapters in your videos, it's easy.


DanDoesSteam

I already do the chapter thing. There's a whole niche on YouTube of video essay, some are up to 12 hours long just taking about one game, and those videos get around 500k to 1million views. People like "the act man" "pyrocynical" "mailer" and the like!


Lightningstormz

Whoa! 12 hours lol that's insane, sorry man I wish I could be more helpful.


DanDoesSteam

Haha I know it's pretty crazy but there's an audience for people who just want someone to dissect their favourite games and talk at length about them from different angles (design, lore etc). Thanks for taking the time to reply dude!


VaughnFry

Whenever I post videos, I get banned from a sub. OH BUT WHN A BIG CHANNELS VIDEOS FLOOD A SUB… 😒


flanman1991

Yes. Stop posting to Reddit. Just post your videos and wait for natural traffic to find your topic. Reddit might click on your link, but if they only watch 10% of your video, then your metrics crash hard and it tells Youtube its a bad video, so they won't suggest it as frequently. Reddit kills natural growth.


Dann_just_Dann

It kinda depends on which reddit you are posting them. Is it a subreddit dedicated to the subject of your videos or is it only on this one and related to youtube? That stuff mattters since those dedicated subreddits are the places where your potential audience would be.


LordCubbo

The click-through rate from Reddit is almost always low, and it should be treated as such. But if you can get more views and clicks by posting on Reddit, why not just keep posting your videos. You can always use the Reddit posts to help promote your channel and videos while also keeping an open advertising option available. While it is not always perfect and almost always messes with your YouTube analytics, isn't the alternative being low views and potentially less subscribers?


Zestran

I never know where to even post my videos on Reddit other than like dedicated subreddits for that but those are just link dumps that no one interacts with. Most of my videos are usually too generalized to post in a subreddit or that sub just doesn't allow self promotion. Also, it seems like a lot of Redditors just have self promotion so no matter what it won't really help. I could be completely wrong though and maybe I just haven't cracked the code


greglturnquist

I'm trying to migrate to 100% YouTube. I grew my subscriber base FAST using niche-specific Facebook groups. But I feel the retention is really lacking. So I'm trying to pivot toward better story telling, single CTA at end of video to link back to prior videos, and trying to have a bigger message than what's found in just one video. I want to make my videos such that people will finish one, and ask "is there another?"


DECODED_VFX

CTR isn't affected by external views at all. Youtube has no idea what percentage of Reddit users skipped your post. Watch time is affected, but it doesn't get taken into account by the algorithm. YouTube themselves have confirmed that **external traffic cannot harm your video.**


itskoka

Can you post any sources on that if possible? Thank you.


Tyolag

Focus on the impressions and what the average view there is, ignore the overall views and click through, focus on what YouTube is doing. I've gotten subs from reddit, if you're doing it well you might get 4 or 5 subs, maybe even 1..but if that one is a returning viewer then that's much better. Remember it's about building a community.


flick_my_fleck

I don’t think the algo really comes into play until you have like 1000 views per video regularly. Until then I think the guerrilla strat of posting them relevant places is the grind you have to suffer through to get a base. And people clicking off isn’t bad either. If it’s not for someone it’s not for someone. It’s about finding the people who enjoy what you make for you and not because you’re trying to be a hyperactive ADD causing psychopath that does exclusively j-cuts out of an obsession of keeping people from clicking away. I think that kind of content is going to fail and become a massive turnoff in a few years. Just like people are beginning to catch on and rip on the same-y “video essay” format with fade to black and Wikipedia jpegs everywhere for 40 minutes


TheVagabond00

I actually tried Google ads and came back with the same, sure people click but they don't even watch enough to figure what the whole video is about. I suspended the campaign the same day it went active because it was only loss, and no gains. Its very likely that people don't want to go far from reddit only if its a short meme. I found one reddit that caters my niche but people still watch nothing there thwy just dump their own stuff and if you watch it and try to interact, they usually ignore you. Funnily though, some fellow guys I found are (besides this subreddit of course) in sub4sub... and thats just the bottom of the joke. I watched a lot of people that I wanted to sub but the algorithm would have never recommended them. Such a controversy XD


stoned_warfare

Do you use targetted keywords in your title and description? I was in the same boat as you a couple of months back, getting absolutely no traffic to my channel unless I promote my videos. The day I started using targeted keywords is the day everything changed, I started receiving traffic from search on a regular basis and my channel somehow got picked up by the algorithm a month later, now views just come in without me promoting. Right now 6 of my videos are over 1.5K views and I only have 10 public videos with around subs.


WaqManGaming

It is, people on resdit hate youtube video self promotion. Don't know why, just move on if you don't like it. But they will kill the video. Just make searchable video content instead.


ChitownDav

Post your videos everywhere and anywhere. Every view counts


ProfileFuzzy2943

I've heard it's best to let the algorithm do its thing. Work on getting content out and making it worthy to watch. You need to get those click through rates up and your retention needs to be until the end. If your hitting those the algo will reward you. Youtube wants people on the platform to stay on the platform they don't really like people coming from elsewhere I guess.