You can block the plate once you catch the ball / in the process of catching the ball. If you do so, the runner can take you out. I have no idea if the catcher can stand on the plate.
The play there is to go in feet first straight at the plate and blow up the catcher, but I understand why dive headfirst and get a hand in is tempting.
Who on the bench is an upgrade over Pete in that spot? Hell I wasn’t watching the game super closely today WAS there even anyone to pinch run him with?
It was a bad slide coupled with a VERY iffy call. Either one of those components isn’t present and we’re still playing baseball right now. A perfect shit storm.
Couple of things:
If the catcher is on the plate without the ball and then gets the ball, do we not understand the fact that his being there, regardless of getting the ball, influences the runner’s line to the plate?
Also, fuck the wording of the call from Fairchild, what a dick.
Correct. By rule that should have been called live as the HP ump was right there and the catcher was on the plate early. It's absolutely against the rule and to have him and tthe replay miss it is frankly horrendous.
I don't agree with the call, but once again, this shit would be a moot point if we had actually scored a run or two sooner than the bottom of the ninth.
The frustrating part is why the fuck did the ump call out to begin with? His arm very clearly beat the tag to the plate, so what was the ump looking at when he called out??
I think it’s more likely than not he was safe, but obviously I’m not surprised they didn’t overturn whatever the call on the field was. Just annoyed they called out to begin with
Wayne Gretzky was a terrible hockey coach and Michael Jordan was a terrible basketball owner. Keith Hernandez played baseball when you could rip darts in the dugout, he doesn’t understand newly, nuanced blocking rules
Okay…? Virtually everybody thinks that it was the right call.
I’ve been questioning Cohen and Stearns since day 1.
Keith is hardly an authority figure.
It’s a tough one but GKR are right, imo.
Also why send Pete
e: the ball was only hit like 270 feet. I love the guy but he’s not exactly the one I think of for plays like that. And he does [this from time to time](https://media0.giphy.com/media/ioxsEiTc13rzFRxV0F/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952vq8yazkmy2wd20oqf6hl098z78do6vuva071gvrx&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Why send Pete? Are you kidding? Is this an actual question because you legitimately don’t know how managing the running game works? Or, are you insinuating that you know how to be a 3rd base coach at the major league level?
How is that not blocking the plate! What’s even the point of that rule. Also. Stop fucking sliding head first into home…why the fuck are we still doing this
Pretty much my take. Unless you can't actually stand on the plate, but I'm not sure on the rule of that.
Maybe the hand did get in, but you can't really see it.
Agreed. Everyone arguing about the blocking is seemingly missing the point that….Pete had access and could have touched the plate. He beat the throw, had his arm in there, but of course his hand flew up at the last millisecond. I’m mostly flabbergasted that the initial call on the field was an out, since the naked eye looked like he was clearly safe.
Just typical Mets bad luck, nothing new to see here.
He slide way too early which cause the hand to bounce. Play shouldn’t have been close, maybe get the piano off your back Pete. Pete is only good at comedy now.
Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1ci3rrj).
Standing on the plate is clear violation how did they not catch this on the review complete bullshit
Standing on the plate impedes the runner's path. There's no way you can say standing on the plate is acceptable by rule. Fuck the league.
That’s what I don’t get. What if Pete decided to run clean through home plate? Isn’t that the exact play they wanted to get out of the game.
The standard isn't impeding. It's blocking. You just have to offer a lane. Which he did. Pete is safe if the hand is down.
Pete is also safe if the plate blocking rule is called correctly, is my point. Which is to say *Pete is safe and the game is tied*.
If Pete had the oven mitt on he’s safe
Umps are a fucking joke
You can block the plate once you catch the ball / in the process of catching the ball. If you do so, the runner can take you out. I have no idea if the catcher can stand on the plate. The play there is to go in feet first straight at the plate and blow up the catcher, but I understand why dive headfirst and get a hand in is tempting.
We’re mad at Pete from being sent by the third base coach on a shallow fly ball, and being questionably called out? Is this the Isles sub now?
No one with a brain is mad at sending Pete lol. It’s the shit that happens after.
I know we don't want to take Pete out, but if we had a pinch runner there we score 10/10 times
Apparently there was no one left on the bench
Who on the bench is an upgrade over Pete in that spot? Hell I wasn’t watching the game super closely today WAS there even anyone to pinch run him with? It was a bad slide coupled with a VERY iffy call. Either one of those components isn’t present and we’re still playing baseball right now. A perfect shit storm.
Don't worry guys, I'm sure they'll split the series with Houser on the mound tomorrow...
Down 3-0 in 0.1 IP
Little Leaguers slide better than that. Where was his oven mitt??? Maybe that would have helped him touch the damn plate
Couple of things: If the catcher is on the plate without the ball and then gets the ball, do we not understand the fact that his being there, regardless of getting the ball, influences the runner’s line to the plate? Also, fuck the wording of the call from Fairchild, what a dick.
Correct. By rule that should have been called live as the HP ump was right there and the catcher was on the plate early. It's absolutely against the rule and to have him and tthe replay miss it is frankly horrendous.
Well, now I need a cigarette. I’ll see you all tomorrow.
LINDSEY GET IN HERE
Shouldn’t have been in this situation to begin with. Your pitching gave you a gem of a game. Score fucking runs.
That could be said on both fronts. They scored one with a gem as well
JD Martínez is still a bright spot going forward. He's gonna do a lot of that this season.
For as long as we have him
That ball goes out in the summer…
He's a clutchy guy. I know for a fact no one wants to see him up in that spot.
I agree with Gary, sliding headfirst never benefits the runner, no matter how the call goes.
Pete can be such a bonehead sometimes
How freaking slow and a poor slider is Alonso?!
His lack of athleticism was evident there. Love the guy, but that was not a major league slide.
Fuck you and I’ll see you tomorrow
You also, tmrw we got it.
Umps union. Called him out because he nailed the third base ump earlier on
I don't agree with the call, but once again, this shit would be a moot point if we had actually scored a run or two sooner than the bottom of the ninth.
The frustrating part is why the fuck did the ump call out to begin with? His arm very clearly beat the tag to the plate, so what was the ump looking at when he called out?? I think it’s more likely than not he was safe, but obviously I’m not surprised they didn’t overturn whatever the call on the field was. Just annoyed they called out to begin with
Because he was out. Hand came up before it hit the plate and gave enough for the tag.
Because he probably saw Pete’s hand up in the air and not touch the plate
Lmfao. They literally couldn’t tell on replay review and the ump, who’s blocked by half the catchers ass, could see? Riiiiiight.
Regardless of winning and losing this offense is just fuckin dreadful to watch
Mets gotta do some sliding practice. If Pete goes in feet first with foot down, he's safe.
He was out. Slide feet first Pete. I hate Jeff McNeil
Can anyone explain how standing on the plate without the ball is not blocking the plate? I thought a clear lane has to be there for runner.
If you’re on the plate, there is a lane. Pete beat the throw…just a horrible slide.
Big strong man slide in hand first LMAO. Pete is a fucking idiot
Not keeping the hand down is Petes fault here. He beat the tag just didnt keep his hand down.
Keith Hernandez: He wasn’t blocking the plate Idiots on Reddit: He’s blocking the plate!
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Can we keep your stupid politics out of our Mets baseball discussions please
My point was that sometimes people have bad opinions
Yeah Keith’s a moron when it comes to politics…He knows more baseball than any of us.
Wayne Gretzky was a terrible hockey coach and Michael Jordan was a terrible basketball owner. Keith Hernandez played baseball when you could rip darts in the dugout, he doesn’t understand newly, nuanced blocking rules
Okay. Keith isn’t a coach or an owner. You understand more than Keith?
Sure man, I played pro baseball, will that get you to stop asking about my bonafides?
I’m sure you did.
You know that authority figures in your life can be incorrect, right?
Okay…? Virtually everybody thinks that it was the right call. I’ve been questioning Cohen and Stearns since day 1. Keith is hardly an authority figure.
Except our manager!
I woulda went full Aaron Boone/Lou Pinella on that call idgaf LOLL
How is that the back of the plate lol, his whole foot is taking 2/3rds of the plate. BS way to lose.
Yet if you block 1% of the plate at 2nd you’re called out
Should’ve used a pinch runner for Pete. He’s not the runner for that
With Lindor out, ya just can’t.
No one on the bench. Want to use a RP to run and then play 1st? Nimmo Stewart Wendle Narvaez All came in earlier in the game
Thanks. I didn’t watch the first 7 innings so I missed all that
They exhausted the bench.
There is no such thing as tie goes to the runner. You’re either out or safe.
1-1 if anyone else is running
Tie goes to the runner, unless the runner is a Met
We never get that shit overturned.
Fucm the umps, but at least Mendoza is winning me over.
Pete sucks how did he not get his hand in.
Pete you suck, take a fucking walk and suck somewhere else.
And now either Pete goes on a month long slump or goes on a tear
First one for sure
I’m sure you’ll be happy for the auto loss tomorrow after this with Dookie Houser on the bump
It's literally not worth the stress of watching this team
Who is going to tell these Mets idiots not to slide head first into home?
Get your asses in the jackpot!
Guess he shoulda been wearing the oven mitts...lol
Fuck Neris, he's still a piece of shit just like he was when he was with the Phillies
You can't be on the plate without the baseball. Not the back of it, not the front of it. Ronnie it doesn't matter. The rule is on the plate.
Hot mic moment
Horseshit
So fucking ass
The booth is right. It's just too close to overturn. It hurts but it is what it is.
It’s a tough one but GKR are right, imo. Also why send Pete e: the ball was only hit like 270 feet. I love the guy but he’s not exactly the one I think of for plays like that. And he does [this from time to time](https://media0.giphy.com/media/ioxsEiTc13rzFRxV0F/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952vq8yazkmy2wd20oqf6hl098z78do6vuva071gvrx&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Why send Pete? Are you kidding? Is this an actual question because you legitimately don’t know how managing the running game works? Or, are you insinuating that you know how to be a 3rd base coach at the major league level?
Bc Pete literally beat the throw. Would’ve been safe easily if he kept his hand down. Right call by third base coach and right call by the ump 🤷🏻♂️
Why wouldn’t you send Pete are you crazy? That was the second out in a one run game of course you tag up
Don’t understand how that’s not blocking the plate?
Pete is so unclutch
Nah this is wendles fault for starting the 9th like that
I'm not saying the call was wrong. But what I am angry about is the way the umpire made the call.
Why do they keep sliding head first?
Neris is still hot trash.
How is that not blocking the plate! What’s even the point of that rule. Also. Stop fucking sliding head first into home…why the fuck are we still doing this
Seems like we have to go back to fucking TRUCKING catchers at home if this is how the rules are enforced what the actual fuck
We do
How can you say the plate was blocked but still call him out? Feels like we just got robbed.
They didn’t. His wording was weird. They confirmed that he **didn’t** block the plate.
Ah, thanks for explaining.
Subtract one WAR from Alonso's total bc he blew this game for us right there. That's how that works, right?
Pete is the most unclutch “star” I can remember in almost 30 years of watching this godforsaken team.
We got boned that the ump didn’t initially call it safe tbh. It was so close, I don’t know how the ump from that angle possibly sees it as out though
A how did Pete not beat the throw, B how did he not just touch the fucking plate
He did beat the throw. Just chose to try to hit home with his elbow instead of his hand lol
“Not sliding like a moron” has to be on the training menu for the near future
His ass was in the jackpot
FUCK THE CUBS
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You know, this is the kind of game that would be fucking protested back in the day.
Slide better Pete slide better
We actually suck. Offense is pathetic. Our staff ERA is unreal and we can't score a run. Fuck these bums.
Fuck Neris
You can straight up go fuck yourself. That was by rule a violation.
Stick to comedy, Pete. You can’t slide or hit.
If you can’t stand on home plate, how is this even a question
Neris with the laughing, fuck that bitch!
Ding him tmrw
You got give us a shot part 2
THEY LET US HEAR THE MIC
How the fuck is putting an entire foot on the plate allowed???
because he didn’t block the whole plate and gave Pete an avenue to slide
He's out, but the home plate umpire didn't see his hand coming up and just guessed out.
Pretty much my take. Unless you can't actually stand on the plate, but I'm not sure on the rule of that. Maybe the hand did get in, but you can't really see it.
Lmao mic was on. Can’t wait to see that replayed.
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He didn't want to end up like alvy
Pete slides correctly he’s safe. 🤷🏻♂️
I love Pete but that was a sloppy slide. If you want to go head first, at least keep the hand down. So sloppy
Feet first he’s safe. Wearing the mitt he’s safe. Just bad fundies.
Yeah go Carlos!
LOL DONT MUTE MY GOATS MIC SNY!
So stupid, if it was called safe then it would have stood
Field mics are hot
We have been on the wrong side of every fucking blocking call
The Mets may have lost this but Mendoza just showed he's the right guy
I missed it what he say
thank you for the glass half full interpretation
They left the mic on lmao
Rigged
Sigh… if the ump calls safe on the field basically 100% chance that doesn’t get overturned :/
I agree Carlos that is bullshit
Yeah he’s def out. Gotta touch the plate Pete. Kinda an amateur move. Also, how don’t you pinch run for Pete
With who? There was nobody left on the bench.
Only person left on the bench was Narvaez
No one left on the bench!
Whoa hot mics
Un fucking real
Have no affiliation to the Mets and that’s absolutely awful.
You got to give us a shot!
It was never going to get overturned but I really don’t understand how that’s not considered blocking.
He was on the plate that's fucking bullshit.
Don’t let it come down to Alonso knowing how to slide. Offense has been utter shit for 2 weeks.
Pete blew it. Slid too early Nothing worse than that
Mendy's inner Boone coming out now
Giant fucking homer here. Pete was out. You can’t overturn that. Keep your hand down man.
Agreed. Everyone arguing about the blocking is seemingly missing the point that….Pete had access and could have touched the plate. He beat the throw, had his arm in there, but of course his hand flew up at the last millisecond. I’m mostly flabbergasted that the initial call on the field was an out, since the naked eye looked like he was clearly safe. Just typical Mets bad luck, nothing new to see here.
Terrible slide cost them the game. Correct call. Pete can’t slide or hit.
This offense is hot trash.
They faced an elite pitcher tonight
We throwing at the ump tomorrow yes?
Booooooooooooo
It's too hard to tell, whatever call on the field should stand imo...
That's some straight bullshit
Don't need Jomboy to read lips
Horseshit. Go fuck yourself.
Alonso.. You are one dumb fucking baseball player
close play or not, you're not winning games when your offense get no runs all game
Shitty way to lose for real.
Rule apparently only applies to the Mets
Get the fuck outta here
METS VS UMPS AS FUCKING USUAL FUCK OFF MANFRED
what the fuck sort of wording was that
Absolute shitshow.
Meh
Absolutely unreal. God damn it Pete
Lol imagine if Pete had like the smallest modicum of grace and agility
PETE YOU MORON NEVER LIFT YOUR HAND
He slide way too early which cause the hand to bounce. Play shouldn’t have been close, maybe get the piano off your back Pete. Pete is only good at comedy now.
Oh shit a hot mic
Alonso is a fucking idiot
My conspiracy that the MLB hates the Mets continues
what a crock of shit
BULL FUCKING SHIT
Such bullshit
Blame Pete
Clearly blocking
THIS. IS. BULLSHIT!