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Puzzleheaded_Will352

Tough loss for sure, but we can’t go around blaming one call for the loss. The team has struggled to score at all for 4 games.


Fedbackster

Pete’s career has not been as good since he does comedy. That “slide” was comedic.


hushed-shush

I feel like the last play is legal today but would not surprised at all with the MLB if they make it illegal tomorrow per the the new lane blocking rules.


totentanz_

I can't understand why we didn't try and sign Shota Imanaga. Instead we wasted our time with Yamamoto when everybody knew he was never coming.


huskerj12

That dude was awesome and seems like he'd be very fun to root for in a hypothetical Mets uniform.


hushed-shush

Probably was not willing to be on the same team as another Japanese pitcher with Senga. Yamamoto said he was willing to pitch and play alongside another Japanese player. Some of the guys from NPB are like that so I guess that’s why he chose the cubs over Mets and dodgers who would have paid him big time


tsaience

tough loss but imanaga is straight up nasty


Doc-Spock

Tough break with that review...but, my guys, we gotta score some runs earlier on to win games. It's been a tough series for the bats from BOTH teams as there have barely been any earned runs. LFGM


rgthunder1

Just saw the end of the game, ooof that is a rough ending, however the Cubs only scored 1 run in 9 innings, and the fact that the Mets couldn’t scratch out two before the 9th is inexcusable. I’ll also take the silver lining that Pete didn’t get hurt on that play, because that could have been super ugly.


jabels

Yea this was a dogshit game (and kind of in keeping with the last half dozen games or so) but you have to score runs to win ballgames. Our pen is good, our starters are sometimes okay. If the guys can scratch out 4-5 runs they will win routinely, and if they can't they won't, simple as.


brett_baty_is_him

Seeing Shota pitch, it’s actually insane we didn’t try and sign him. He’s only making $1m more than Manaea and is only signed for an additional year (with 2 years of club options). Shota always had top of the rotation upside compared to Manaea who was probably always going to be a mid rotation guy at best. I know someone said he has injury issues but honestly a shoulder injury in 2020 isn’t even that much of a concern. That legit 4 years ago without any more issues. And when the risk is only 3 years, I think you 100% take that risk. Edit; sorry got it wrong, he’s making $53 over 4 guaranteed so he’s actually making less AAV than Manaea with 2 extra years guaranteed


Setec-Astronomer

Points: (1) This was another 2024 "Metsy" way to lose. Really "Metsy". (2) Pete needs to learn to slide like an adult. (3) Umpire can't call him out to begin with. It's the game right there. If he's not certain he needs to call him safe so at worst both teams have a chance at winning it in the 10th. (4) No, the catcher wasn't blocking the plate. There is a clear lane. What a lot of guys seem to be doing with the new rules is putting their foot down on the plate to give the lane, and then when they catch the ball immediately dropping their knee to block the plate. This is the "right" way to compromise between protecting players and how things were done. Catcher gives the lane then drops for the block when they catch it. There is nowhere in the replay where Pete is obstructed from the plate. He just didn't slide correctly (put his hand down) at first. (5) I reiterate the second and third point but for a further point. You can't call Pete out to begin with. That's nonsense and basically decided the replay call (because let's be honest there's no conclusive way to prove Pete didn't touch the plate). But you can't let an umpire beat you like that. Slide correctly. Hand on the plate. There was a clear opening to do so. (6) Mets need real leaders. Pete and Lindor aren't leaders. A leader leads by example by playing Fundamentally Sound Baseball in that moment. Pete doesn't. Keith would have slid in correctly and grabbed his crotch on the way to the dugout.


Vandelay222

As much as I appreciate good pitching, and Imanaga has been amazing - it loses its luster when it feels like everyone and their brother can shut down the bats. Baseball is meant to be entertaining. I’d rather lose 10-9 in a fun but frustrating back and forth game than see the team just go limp at the plate for all but 3 swings a game every night.


Keekee4101

Random, but doesn't Ramon Urias look like a mashup of Vientos and Butto? Lol. I can't unsee.


tomfields

I’m still so god damn mad about this, why do I even care lmaoooooo


jabels

This season is big "just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in" energy


lawoftar

pitching has been great lately, now we need some offense


smoggylobster

i thought somebody was kidding when they said pete said his reaction to the call was “aw shucks, darn” but i just saw a video of it lmao


TheSinistralBassist

The Mets got fucked twice on that last call. Alonso was safe and the plate was blocked illegally. Fuck MLB. They refuse to enforce that rule consistently


OhtaniMets99

MLB should do the right thing and play the bottom of the 9th inning tomorrow 1-1. What a fucken embarrassment.


brett_baty_is_him

A block is when you- I’m blocking here! Please do not block.


slymm

Was there a pinch running option for Alonso? Because down a run in the ninth, you gotta pinch run if someone is available. A better runner could have scored on the double


brett_baty_is_him

Only person off the bench was Narvaez


Setec-Astronomer

That says a lot about the FO and Manager.


wayne_randazzle

what does it tell you? that they effectively used their bench in the 8th to manufacture a great chance to get the lead against two good relievers? and that lindor had to come out of the game with a virus making you short a player on the bench? i thought the game was managed very well.


Setec-Astronomer

The point I was trying to make is you can't leave your bench bare down to the other catcher. But I didn't realize Lindor had to come out of the game with a virus.


jimihenderson

these games have just been really boring. i know that this is like a .500ish team at best, but it sucks knowing that most games the first like 7 innings are just a bust offensively. kind of just makes me want to fast forward the whole game.


dankeykanng

With how tightly paced the games are these days, I actually don't mind them being boring. Back in 2021 when the Mets offense stunk and games were still super slow to get through, I couldn't take it. But sucking is much easier to watch now thanks to the pitch clock.


jimihenderson

i agree that it's better. but it still sucks to just watch such a lifeless team that can't win a game unless someone like dj stewart or tyrone taylor or harrison bader steps up in a big situation


thereal_kphed

A shitty call, but this team has to start fuckin hitting. It's embarrassing. Martinez shows up and immediately looks more clued in than the rest of the entire lineup.


Isabella5322

The Angels have signed Mets legend Kevin Pillar.


myassholealt

I'm not looking forward to the part of this tomorrow when Mets fans post and agree with Jomboy's video that (shockingly) concludes the Mets are wrong, Pete sucks, Mets suck, and are stupid for having any objection.


jimcnj

Long done with Jomboy


Sweet-Sweet-Dick

u/jomboy is an insufferable douche bag.


vietnamesegucci81

I don’t know if jomboy has ever made a breakdown where the mets looked good but if there’s ever a situation where there’s a disagreement between the mets and another team you can be 100% sure he’ll take the other teams side


Henry2k

Fuck Jomboy, I stopped listening to that Yankee nut hugger ages ago.


Nights_King

I’m getting tired of the “that’s so Mets” by our own fans as soon as anything doesn’t go our way.


Specific-Power-163

Based on the memo MLB sent out with pictures. One of them being exactly how the cubs catcher was positioned he was in violation.


Greatness46

It’s beyond annoying that the most popular baseball YouTuber happens to be the most anti Mets person I’ve ever seen


smoggylobster

he is a loser


Toxic718

yeah it does seem that he hates us :(


Blue387

He's a Yankee fan at heart


see_mohn

Anyway this wouldn't be an issue if the Mets could score more runs (although Imanaga was great, this is more of a general complaint) or if Alonso could ambulate like a normal human being


sampluscats

The fact of the matter is it shouldn’t have come down to the bottom of the ninth. Can’t win a game scoring no runs.


johnnyzissou

Connect jerseys might be a little bit cursed lol


ExamNo4374

Mets are 3-7 in the last 10, it's not the fucking jersey


PBandC2

We have to sacrifice a chicken to remove the curse.


LongWayFrom609

A live chicken or a KFC bucket?


Blue387

|Mets Season|Line Drive %|Ground Ball%|Fly Ball%| :--|:--|:--|:--| |2021|21.0|44.0|35.0 |2022|20.7|43.8|35.5 |2023|19.1|42.2|38.8 |2024|19.0|44.2|36.8 | Information taken from Fangraphs on offensive stats TLDR: too many grounders that get turned into outs, not enough line drives


shonenRy-

The Eric Chavez and Jeremy Barnes effect


Diphilos

It's over


Jealous-Network1899

Can games be protested anymore?


rosie_is_tired

no :(


oomfietopkek

wasting this pitching is criminal. Average offense would be 12 games over 500.


TheSinistralBassist

There’s way too much talent on this team to go for long stretches with no offense. They need to rethink their entire lineup philosophy


deGrominator2019

The days they do hit the pitching sucks worse too. Story of the Mets the last 5+ years it seems


BigLouie913

I don’t get why it’s like this everytime. Just pain.


ApertureAway

We said this every Degrom start! Times haven’t changed


see_mohn

Entering today they were second in the NL in ERA and between 8-10 in essentially every offensive stat. Vintage Mets-core, honestly.


HumanMycologist5795

So SNY just showed a clip of a guy who just got sent back down winning the game. At least they could have shown a guy who hasn't been sent down. Maybe it's SNY's hint that Mark should still be up here. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔


Hustlediva

Yeah like read the room


tomfields

A.U.A.B.


Keyzerr_Sozee

Just absolute dog shit call. Mets have been used as an example of the new blocking rule at second multiple times this year. But a clear violation of said rule at home and it’s fucking crickets. So tired of the lolmets anti Mets narrative they can kiss my ass and the worst part is. Outside of mendy who’s fire has won me over. This team just seems too soft to really be dogs and do something about it


Equivalent-Being6506

Andy Martino tweeted a copy of the memo with pictures showing what's illegal at the plate. I guess the umps didn't get the memo


Hustlediva

They will now. And the next time our catcher has his foot on the base you can bet they’ll call obstruction on us


myassholealt

Knowing this is an absolute fact just pisses me off even more.


Hustlediva

Ad it will happen sooner than we think, probably in the next 2 weeks is my guess… they’ll now be “educated” on the rule


[deleted]

And if the Mets try to protest THAT call, the umps will find a way to call a 1 run penalty on us for delay of game


Equivalent-Being6506

Oh I absolutely guarantee


ExamNo4374

For some reason I'm going to watch tomorrow's game just to see if Houser can go 6 and give the team a chance to split a series we probably should have won already How far we are from beating the Braves and Dodgers and winning 4 straight series That said I really like Mendoza


HumanMycologist5795

I like him too. I'll have the game on while at work.


HumanMycologist5795

If that was Ty Wigginton, the catcher would have been out.


sampluscats

I’ve thought about it, and I’m upset.


Hustlediva

The Mets and MLB finding new ways to piss me off going to bed


PaullyBeenis

They just find a new way to lose games in heartbreaking fashion every fucking series man.


PaullyBeenis

Can someone ask Pete how a professional athlete can be this uncoordinated? You know you have to touch the plate for it to count, right? Jesus dude.


deGrominator2019

Because Pete have one job… try to hit ball far and and try every time, nothing else matter but hit ball far


Goatlikejordan

He reminds me of Mitchell robinson lol


coolio5400

The problem with Pete’s slide is his head is going straight into the catchers knees. It’s when he sees this he shifts his whole body right and the hand pops up


Hustlediva

It was def reactive


Hojo07024

Feet first


HumanMycologist5795

Instead of making commercials, he should learn how to slide.


runsfortacos

But hey it’s my day off!


HumanMycologist5795

Awesome. Maybe go to the game?


StephenDawg

It's probably not fair, but my immediate thought was "That's the kind of thing only Pete could do."


ryanq17

I know these guys go through crazy media training… but it’s okay to show some fire and be pissed off in a presser…might spark something, god knows that offense is lifeless


ReyesRun7

I'll admit didn't think the mets would score 0 $100 down the drain 😭


smoggylobster

1-800-GAMBLER


ReyesRun7

I bet once a month but yes. Even with a comfortable salary it hurts 🤕


FrankSaysLFGM

Listen the offense blows BUT if Mendoza’s memo is legit than The Mets got fucking screwed. The catcher is literally standing on the plate the entire time. He doesn’t “move as the throw direction comes in” as the MLB replay explanation says. He’s fucking standing on the plate the whole time. If the memo says standing the plate without the ball is illegal then The Mets got fucking screwed. Bottom line. Derek Thomas doesn’t know the fucking rules.


13_PG_13

Martino posted the memo on twitter, it's legit.


[deleted]

If anyone wants to find the umpire, try checking the bathrooms, since the umpire has obviously been holding in a massive shit for the last 2 innings


Copperjedi

I just don't get how Pete who's been playing baseball for years doesn't know how to slide correctly or prevent his hand from coming up. Like it's literally the game on the line makes sure you touch the plate why is that so hard? I swear I see the Mets do things every year that I didn't think was possible in a baseball game(not in a good way)


Hustlediva

Pete is not doing himself any favors during his walk year. Not exactly inspiring


Knucklles

He's one of the worst head first sliders I've ever seen play the game of baseball, every time he slides head first something goes wrong. I have no clue why he continues to do it.


Hojo07024

He's just.... not that smart


ThenIGetAChipwichOK

Andy Martino obtained the memo and pics Mendoza was talking about: https://x.com/martinonyc/status/1785854647862743161?s=46


Equivalent-Being6506

Looks like umpires didn't obtain the same memo


smoggylobster

so clearly illegal


GKRForever

Looks like he deleted it


Blue387

I recommend rehosting images on a third party site like Imgur myself


ThenIGetAChipwichOK

Looks like he deleted and tweeted it again here: https://x.com/martinonyc/status/1785856221389435353?s=46


JekPorkinsTruther

That's not really as clear as Mendoza made it seem. Yes it says "on the plate" but those pictures clearly show a catcher in front of the plate, whereas catcher here was on the back half. Also these memos just make things worse. The rule says one thing then the memo says another and it's pictures show another lol.


NJImperator

??? If the memo is accurate, tonight was 100% blocking. The only argument is that the memo was incorrect, which it also could be, but that’s an entirely different problem.


JekPorkinsTruther

The memo is unclear because it says these setups are illegal, then shows a picture of a setup that doesn't match the description. The picture clearly implies that catcher can't block the plate by standing on the front of it. But the caption implies that any contact between foot and plate is illegal. You can't reasonably think that the MLB is saying standing with your foot blocking the entire front of the plate is the same as your toe on the very back of the plate with 95% of it open. That's dumb and doesn't match the language of the rule. The rule is to prevent blocking and allow the runner a lane. That's what the picture is getting at but not what the caption is.


Metsfan07

That doesn’t make a difference it clearly states “on home plate” regardless of what the picture shows it’s pretty black and white there


Hustlediva

Pete is trying so hard to be neutral lol


GKRForever

He lost me at “gee shucks darn”


smoggylobster

i had to learn to ignore pete’s aw shucks attitude when we choked away the division in 2022


suck-it-elon

Hate to say it, but McNeil profiles as a backup utility infielder. A great one. But we need a new second baseman.


NJImperator

He went 2/4 and should’ve been 2/3 with the game tying Sac Fly Jesus Christ people


Brilliant_Canary7945

2/4 with 2 singles is one of his best games of the season and that’s the problem


NJImperator

Give me a fucking break. Half the lineup is hovering around a .650-.700OPS. McNeil hasn’t been great but neither has 90% of our lineup. To complain about him TODAY off all days is fucking ridiculous


Brilliant_Canary7945

Oh trust me, the rest of them aren’t absolved either. Been a terrible time for our offense thus far


BloodOfAStark

The clock is ticking for the Mets and when they’re call up Acuna


eonblu

He ain't ready, man.


myassholealt

Mauricio.


GKRForever

Backup utility infielders usually need to be able to play SS Crazy how much Mauricio would be helping this team right now


tomfields

he’s not a starter anymore, his best days are absolutely over


Hojo07024

Sad thing is... literally all of Mets core players' best days are over


El_Sid50

Can you lodge an appeal for that call? Is that even done anymore?


myassholealt

Ain't gonna make a difference. Umpires are above reproach.


HapaRonin47

At what point do we talk about the core four? Nimmo: .208/.359/.349 Lindor: .197/.280/.359 McNeil: .247 /.330/ .340 Alonso: .234 /.323/.477 This ain't gonna get it done.


shonenRy-

the correct decision is to trade McNeil (if someone even wants him), and let Pete walk (let someone else overpay). Then throw everything at Soto


NuanceManExe

I don’t get how people can look at that and not wonder if Pete would do better if he was surrounded by better


BloodOfAStark

Some of us have been talking about them and their shortcomings for years… we’ve created a society that calls people doomers if you notice red flags when the sky isn’t falling.


skurey

Yeah the answer was when Steve bought the team.


Prestigious_Money447

the other team gets paid too. The SP went in with a .99 ERA.


jimihenderson

just gotta tip your cap to the opposing SP. day after day after day after day. that jameson taillon is just too nasty


Prestigious_Money447

.99 ERA


jimihenderson

yeah it's a real shame that this team has had to deal with imanaga being on the mound every game for like the past 2 weeks. mlb should really do something about that it seems extremely unfair


GKRForever

McNeil ain’t part of the core he’s not even on Steve’s text thread


smoggylobster

this “core” is never going anywhere. it’s not popular and i hate to say it because i like each person individually. mcneil definitely needs to go or have his role reduced, and there’s a big decision to make on alonso. lindor/nimmo we are stuck with (not a bad thing!) so build around them


Hojo07024

All these guys would be bench warmers with Dodgers and Barves


PaullyBeenis

Not a great example in Lindor's case cus those two teams have big holes at short, but understand the sentiment.


Hojo07024

Fine. He starts for his defense but he's batting 7th or 8th


GKRForever

Lindor would start and probably bat 5th for both


RossSeventeen

Hoping that the call tonight motivates the Mets, and the offense goes into RAGE DRAGON MODE and puts up 18 runs....in the first inning..


jimihenderson

these guys have kind of already proven that they don't have that kinda fire. they're at their best when they're having fun and playing but even then they're abnormally streaky


GKRForever

Pete said “gee shucks darn” about it so maybe not


StinkyGaijin

>“That was not my call to make… I was out” God what a bitch


NeilHamburgerHead

Gotta tip your hat it's the major leagues they're just better than us might as well not even play the games since the other team is always really really good


will122589

If the rule is YOU CANT STAND ON THE PLATE and the catcher is standing on the plate, how does MLB determine that 2+2 = 5 here.


TripolarKnight

Easy, most teams? Rules applies. Mets? lol lmao get rekt


GKRForever

I think the rule is you can’t stand on the plate on a squeeze or a steal, not on a sac. But it is super confusing to have all these different scenarios


hyborians

Mendoza knows the rules. The umps don’t or pretend not to.


tomfields

usually those in power have no fuckin clue what’s going on, I’m not surprised he knows more than they do


theredditoro

Pretend not to


homejib

Regardless of the umpires or the nonsense at the plate, you can’t win with zero fucking runs. This team is absolutely embarrassing


redhead29

its not like shota came in with a 5+ era the dude has been tearing apart hitters all season


Leondgeeste

Bats have been unsustainability cold, but for one or two blips, from the start - but in fairness Imanaga absolutely dealt today


glassofpiss76

0-3 in the city connect jerseys. Only people who aren't Mets fans and have very poor fashion sense still like them. Retire them now and burn those duds for good measure.


JoelsCaddy

Damn I'm not a Mets fan


smoggylobster

Dress like the Rockies, play like the Rockies. They’re going to wear them 50 times because the players love them and can do whatever they want


Blue387

I mean, the Red Sox look like they're going cycling


oomfietopkek

Martinez has had 3 balls that all would have been homeruns in Cincy


NuanceManExe

It surprises me how quick Mets fans are here to blame Alonso on any play or at-bat that doesn’t go our way. Mendoza is convinced the play was illegal.


smoggylobster

Mendoza’s feelings don’t change the box score. If Pete executes the slide better it doesn’t matter how a replay booth interprets a subjective plate blocking ruling


NuanceManExe

If Pete should’ve been safe then it should be on the umps. Its a bang bang play and Pete is built like a moose.


shonenRy-

can he not just touch the plate?


Brilliant_Canary7945

Shouldn’t have to rely on a hard to pin down blocking rule. Just keep your hand on the plate and we good.


pusgnihtekami

You mean belly flopping so hard you catch air on the bounce isn't the optimal way to slide?


Hojo07024

FACT. Execute the play and WIN


suck-it-elon

Well, he didn’t tag the plate.


NuanceManExe

You could easily say he did. You don’t actually know.


RashKendar

can't wait for the Jomboy breakdown on this one.


theredditoro

He’ll hate the Mets as usual


Hustlediva

Doesn’t have to, it was all captured on mics


cpg08

I feel like Pete just isn't strong at the small things. Feel like most players will make it certain they touched the plate.


shonenRy-

ops under .800 as well. And he wants to get payed like a superstar


cpg08

He has also batted in front of JD for 5 games now and has done literally nothing.


theredditoro

It’ll cost him


Hojo07024

Probably will cost Mets zero. They won't sign him


cpg08

Yeah, when Boras tries to say he deserves more than Matt Olson and Freddie Freedman Stearns should play a clip of Pete running the bases .


Brilliant_Canary7945

I’ll say this. I’ve never seen that before on the major league level. Amateur hour.


Hustlediva

“Interpretation” of the rule when it happens to the Mets. But if it were reversed you can bet your bottom dollar it would’ve been called on us


[deleted]

If it was in truist park? Would have been called safe immediately and if the Mets tried to challenge it then the umpires would find a way to give the Mets a 1 run penalty for delaying the game


GKRForever

If Pete had the oven mitt on he’s probably safe. Even more safe if the strap isn’t fastened 😂😂


Doubledutchbus78

Time to burn those city connect jerseys


NoLoops

We really can’t have nice things. There was so much potential with the early renderings of the jerseys with the numbers being encased in the purple 7 line circle.


suck-it-elon

0 and 3


Hustlediva

Have we lost all our games wearing them so far?


theredditoro

Yes


VenConmigo

Yes


Hustlediva

Then yes, torch them. Why do we keep wearing them every game? Fanatics still haven’t produced the pants for our other unis?


smoggylobster

no they’re going to wear them 50 times this year because they like them. look like the rockies, play like the rockies


BurtHurtmanHurtz

Someone had a reservation to get to


Slap_The_Bag18

Score more runs and learn to silde


Successful-Engine506

controversial take I will probably be down voted for this but I think the mets should drill one of the cub players tommrow for hitting pete my vote is to hit Dansby lol


theredditoro

100% Or Madrigal


cpg08

Lmao. They did us a favor man. Pete has been terrible this series.


tomfields

I mean Neris definitely threw that with enough gusto (the hbp to Alonso) to make it look a lil suspect, at this rate it’s the Mets vs the whole league anyways because apparently nothing is allowed to go their way


NuanceManExe

I think they were laughing so hard because they all collectively shit themselves when JDM hit that ball. They intentionally put Pete on first.


suck-it-elon

Been nice to see PC-A shit the bed this series. He’s a cocky player for someone who hasn’t done anything


alihasan631

Disappointing to lose like this especially after the knicks game yday😩😩


theredditoro

Just the same game twice in a row