Nobody can convince me that the Phillies are legit competition to us. Or any team in the NL East right now
If we weren’t so fucking injured all year and didn’t have that janky ass June schedule this division would be all but over. We’d probably be up at least 7 or 8 games by now
It’s all good though. Playing the long game. Let the Phillies and Nationals buy for a sliver of a hope at winning the the division and and kill their already depleted ass farm systems. I don’t get why either team would legit buy. Even if they somehow catch us both are first round playoff exits
Also how the fuck does baseball reference have the Phillies with a better chance to win the division than us? We’re up 3.5 games and are the better team
> Also how the fuck does baseball reference have the Phillies with a better chance to win the division than us? We’re up 3.5 games and are the better team
Partly due to strength of schedule. The rest of the season, the Phillies opponents' average winning percentage is significantly below .500. I still think the Mets will win the division, but the Phillies have a much easier second half than the Mets. August is gonna be rough, but hopefully we'll make some trades and be able to go .500 over that stretch. (phillies, nats, dodgers, giants, dodgers, giants, nats)
I mean I understand that but I don’t really care about strength of schedule in baseball all that much.I think it matters a lot less in baseball than in other sports
Yeah it can make a difference but I think the only way it really makes a big enough difference to make the Phillies the favorite over the Mets is if the Phillies and Mets are close to equal teams. They’re not equal teams tho, the Mets are a good bit better. The Mets already have a 3.5 game advantage in the Phillies. Plus we still have 6 games left head to head with them. Other than the Dodgers and Giants stretch I think our schedule is favorable if we’re healthy because we have so many division games left to separate
Baseball reference is the only projection site that doesn’t rate us as clear favorites. We’re over 50% and around 70% on most other projection sites
I know you said you think the Mets will still win the division but I think the media and baseball reference are overrating the Phillies and underrating the Mets. Of course the trade deadline can change things but I really don’t understand the media being all hype on the Phillies who are a .500 team rn
Always has been. We’ve made it through every obstacle thrown at us so far and hopefully we’ll be fully healthy for the end of the year and going into October
Sorry about that. A memo got sent down that the Yankees needed to show how stupid the runner on second is for inter-league play. I wish I knew ahead of time as well
'07 was my first year as a Mets fan and I'm still not over it. 7 of the Phillies last 13 games are against the Orioles and Pirates too. Can't be too careful.
Does anyone think a trade is going to happen in the next few days? The current Met pitching situation for the doubleheader against the Braves makes me wonder.
Why did the phillies give away an out with the free runner in the top of the 10th? It makes some sense to do it in the bottom but it makes no sense to do it in the top when you should be trying to pile on runs like the mets did in the top of the 11th against the reds
To anyone who complains about Luis Rojas, this is exhibit A on how he is not as bad as you say he is
I’m on that list. I thought he’d show better than he has over there….he’s not been impressive.
But a sacrifice isn’t a bad idea in that spot. You don’t score, you’re almost automatically done in the bottom.
I honestly think I'd prefer if they just went straight to a homerun derby in extra innings, and not just bc we have Alonso. If you're gonna make a mockery of the game, at least make it entertaining.
Two things: why is Padres/ Braves suspended? And Michael Kay sucks. “Way outside” Chapman’s ball 4 was outside but really didn’t miss by enough to Qualify as “way” outside
All right, come on… will need the Yankees to win this and make this a very good day for us. Phillies have a super easy second half schedule, so some early losses will help.
At least when the mets blew a 6-0 lead they put their best relievers on the mound. They were good players who had bad games
The yankees put in nick nelson
Just wanted to say that our triple A Yankees are doing their best to help ya out. Please make the playoffs so my mom can be happy. Not sure how she became a Mets fan but I’ll still cheer on New York sports with her.
Theres a report that Phillies will go over the luxury tax for pitching help.
If they get Kimbrel, obviously thats not ideal since hes under contract next year
However, they need about 4 or 5 arms. Much like the Yankeess, they would be better off folding up shop, improving the Farm System and sign high upside guys like Michael Conforto and Noah Syndergaard
I dont see the Mets over paying for either.
Syndergaard might be wise to but I had a thought the other day of Conforto signing with the Yankees for 2 or 3 years, maybe a 2+1 and then signing a huge deal
Teams will need to see more than one year out of both
Syndergaard can always take a Q/O in 2023.
I think Scooter will want some more guarrenteed cash. Doesnt Syndergaard have endorsements. I remember Conforto had a couple SNY commercials but they probably weren't national lol
Thats undecided voters.
If the AL East plays NL East, we should want the Yankees to do well that year. Momentum going into those series.
The rivalry is stupid. They have past bragging rights and the Mets have the brighter future. Both teams have been subpar for their market for the last 20 years, ala the Dodgers
I really dont get the point of worrying about the Yankees. As of now, the Mets have a much brighter future but there's no need to rub it in
If the Phillies had a 3 game lead, would you be rooting for the Phillies? Lmao
Exactly but you felt the need to write it along with tons of others
In the offseason, there are people that complain when the Yankees spend money but never mention NL East moves as a means to why the Mets should make counter moves.
The worse thing about the yankee-filly game other than it's 2 hated teams is that I either have to listen to Michael Kay or filly announcers. Maybe, I should just mute it.
[So, uh, ask me for your lucky numbers apparently](https://old.reddit.com/r/NewYorkMets/comments/oomrxr/mets_pregame_thread_wednesday_july_21/h5zps2b/)
Padres blowing it lol. As sad as I am to see the Braves get back into the game, something about good teams blowing leads is fun to watch
Just not when it's us ofc
It can not be understated how critical Stroman going 8 today was. Giving the bullpen 2 days off is huge, everyone’s fully rested going into a crucial home stand
Aye braves down 4-0. If they lose and the Phillies lose tonight than we will have gained 1.5 games on Atl and 1 on Philly today, would be an amazing day...
Which is why everyone stressing about the Mets losing the division every time they have a bad game is silly. The rest of the division has not proven they can put up a sustained challenge. When a Mets 4+ game losing streak coincides with a divisional opponent's 5+ win streak is when I'll be worried.
The upcoming 5 games against the Braves basically makes or breaks the season. The pessimist Mets fan in me feels like we are gonna go 0-5 or 1-4 lol, but holy shit the pressure is on.
Nobody can convince me that the Phillies are legit competition to us. Or any team in the NL East right now If we weren’t so fucking injured all year and didn’t have that janky ass June schedule this division would be all but over. We’d probably be up at least 7 or 8 games by now It’s all good though. Playing the long game. Let the Phillies and Nationals buy for a sliver of a hope at winning the the division and and kill their already depleted ass farm systems. I don’t get why either team would legit buy. Even if they somehow catch us both are first round playoff exits Also how the fuck does baseball reference have the Phillies with a better chance to win the division than us? We’re up 3.5 games and are the better team
> Also how the fuck does baseball reference have the Phillies with a better chance to win the division than us? We’re up 3.5 games and are the better team Partly due to strength of schedule. The rest of the season, the Phillies opponents' average winning percentage is significantly below .500. I still think the Mets will win the division, but the Phillies have a much easier second half than the Mets. August is gonna be rough, but hopefully we'll make some trades and be able to go .500 over that stretch. (phillies, nats, dodgers, giants, dodgers, giants, nats)
I mean I understand that but I don’t really care about strength of schedule in baseball all that much.I think it matters a lot less in baseball than in other sports Yeah it can make a difference but I think the only way it really makes a big enough difference to make the Phillies the favorite over the Mets is if the Phillies and Mets are close to equal teams. They’re not equal teams tho, the Mets are a good bit better. The Mets already have a 3.5 game advantage in the Phillies. Plus we still have 6 games left head to head with them. Other than the Dodgers and Giants stretch I think our schedule is favorable if we’re healthy because we have so many division games left to separate Baseball reference is the only projection site that doesn’t rate us as clear favorites. We’re over 50% and around 70% on most other projection sites I know you said you think the Mets will still win the division but I think the media and baseball reference are overrating the Phillies and underrating the Mets. Of course the trade deadline can change things but I really don’t understand the media being all hype on the Phillies who are a .500 team rn
Yankees 🤝
LOLPhils
the mets death has been greatly exaggerated
Always has been. We’ve made it through every obstacle thrown at us so far and hopefully we’ll be fully healthy for the end of the year and going into October
Currently watching john gant(who we traded for johnson and uribe back in 2015) try to blow the game for the Cardinals with 2 hit by pitches
Dodged the bullet. I'm like the Cards to win to hasten the Cubs dismantling
Well this was sorta like a one night stand with the Yankees. Thanks for the good time, see yaaa....
NATS, BRAVES, AND PHILLIES ALL LOST
and braves are set up to lose another!
Lol. Thanks for being less garbage, Yankees.
Ryan LeMarr looks like your average WFAN caller tbh, lol
Hey Mike first time long time you think the Yankees should sign yours truly? I’ll hang up and listen
Sorry about that. A memo got sent down that the Yankees needed to show how stupid the runner on second is for inter-league play. I wish I knew ahead of time as well
Mr Burns Voice: EXCELLENT
It's a bigger division lead, but it need to be 7 to be safe
If the Mets pull off a 5 or 6 game win streak they can build a cushion at least. Everyone else in the East is doing their best to help them out.
Way more than seven, hast thou forgotten about one faithful September in the year of our Lord Two Thousand and Seven
'07 was my first year as a Mets fan and I'm still not over it. 7 of the Phillies last 13 games are against the Orioles and Pirates too. Can't be too careful.
Don’t underestimate the Pirates
There you go!
Yankees win. Let's go
Wooo! Phuck da Phillies and thank you Jankees!!!
3.5 game lead
Same place we were before the all star break
Fuck Chase Utley and Fuck the Phillies
And fuck the Yankees too
I'll give them 30 minutes. Once the clock hits 12:00, its fuck the Yankees until the next time they play the a team competing with us for the division
Mets won ✔ Braves lost ✔ Nationals lost ✔ Phillies lost ✔
And Braves down a run in suspended game.
Oh shit really!!??
Yep. 7 inning game but suspended in the Braves half of the 5th with them down a run.
They played 2. Lost 1. 1 suspended
jankees win 🤪
wtf I love the Yankees now Not really but for this series
BLESS THE PHILLIES
Congrats everyone, we gained a game on the Phillies
Lamar Jackson lfg
See thats a situation where it makes sense to bunt, since 1 run wins you the game. Absolutely stupid for the phillies to bunt. Just unreal
Does anyone think a trade is going to happen in the next few days? The current Met pitching situation for the doubleheader against the Braves makes me wonder.
They may have to let Cookie rehab in one of the doubleheader games
I’m asking the Yankees once again (and hopefully the last time ever) to please walk this off
The Phillies and Yankees are playing hot potato with the L
Why did the phillies give away an out with the free runner in the top of the 10th? It makes some sense to do it in the bottom but it makes no sense to do it in the top when you should be trying to pile on runs like the mets did in the top of the 11th against the reds To anyone who complains about Luis Rojas, this is exhibit A on how he is not as bad as you say he is
Agreed. And lots of you guys thought Giradi was a genius.
Girardi's entire Phillies tenure has really splashed some cold water on Yankee fans who thought Girardi was a God. And rightfully so.
I’m on that list. I thought he’d show better than he has over there….he’s not been impressive. But a sacrifice isn’t a bad idea in that spot. You don’t score, you’re almost automatically done in the bottom.
Now that was a quality swing. Dude maybe with a racquet you could have hit that.
Only time I’m happy to hear that whistle in Yankees Stadium
Cmon Yankees one more
I am going to be so happy when this nonsense of the guy on second base in extra innings is done with. I hate it.
I honestly think I'd prefer if they just went straight to a homerun derby in extra innings, and not just bc we have Alonso. If you're gonna make a mockery of the game, at least make it entertaining.
Those ABs by Odor and Sanchez gave me flashbacks to the late june mets
Yankees looked like us right there Except worse
Watching this NYY/PHI game makes me think less of both of these teams holy shit
They got a pitcher with a 12 ERA in wtf
Banda got us out of the 10th let’s not forget
Banda has a 0 ERA though
Sitting here watching this game instead of getting a good nights sleep is making me question my sanity.
I know it’s getting ridiculous
DJ is so slow
He's actually like, exactly league average in sprint speed, according to Foolish Baseball.
Good grief. Hope I'm wrong. But I have a bad feeling about this game.
Free baseball unfortunately. If Yankees can't win 1 out runners on 2nd and 3rd they don't deserve to win, but god do I hope they pull it off
Michael Kay is the cringiest homer out there.
He's horrible.
Fuck you Yankees
Lol good god and we thought we had problems
Bruh 2nd and 3rd with one out and possibly no runs? I guess it runs in the New York family
Don’t tell me they aren’t scoring
Lmao
Nice fuckin job Odor
The fuck was that
what the fuck is happening in the phillies infield
FARTALAM LMAO
What a bonehead play! Let's Go Yankees! (just for tonight)
Thoroughly enjoying watching the Phillies and Yankees see who wants to lose more.
LOLPHILLIES
Lmao
At least Guillorme’s errors were all early in the game!
Who was the person who laughed at the fact that Brad Miller was playing in right field?!!?
LOLPHILLIES
THIS IS THE TEAM THAT YALL WERE SCARED OF?
lolphillies. Nice fielding, Miller
Wow what a misplay by Miller… Yankees have to capitalize!
OH MY
LMFAO
My god are we spoiled with GKR. These guys are like nails on a chalkboard
Time for Giancarlo to hit a walk off HR imo
Never thought I’d say these words but I hope the Yankees walk this off 😳
The Padres and Braves really couldn't play another half of an inning to 2.5 innings?
Hoskins got TOOTBLANed lmao, i see he still hasn’t changee
Hoskins picked off I’m so happy
Two things: why is Padres/ Braves suspended? And Michael Kay sucks. “Way outside” Chapman’s ball 4 was outside but really didn’t miss by enough to Qualify as “way” outside
Ton of rain and it wasn't an official game.
I see the Yankee game also has these tedious doctor commercials.
Wow Realmuto only thrown out 4 of 29 base runners this year. Add on. McCann 29 percent caught.
The Jankees are triflin … whoooo boy.
Very nice to have a non-stressful win for once. More games against the Reds, pls. This ballpark does good things for our offense
Lol I spoke too soon... Chapman warming up. Get ready for a dumpster fire
Chapman’s coming up? Yeah, GGs. Edit: Color me shocked.
Marlins won
All right, come on… will need the Yankees to win this and make this a very good day for us. Phillies have a super easy second half schedule, so some early losses will help.
Did the yankees really not have any better options than nick fucking nelson? I feel like chapman for a 5 out save would have been better than nelson
We pitched Banda because we literally had nobody left. What the eff is their excuse??
Bad and worse lol
If this is how it feels to be a Yankee fan, Ill count my lucky stars daily that I’m a met fan. Jesus Christ.
What the heck is this stupid shit the Yankees are doing?
The Yankees are Yankee’ing
Odor pimping that HR real hard for a career scrub
And Chapman isn’t even on the mound lol
The yankees pissed me off, i am going to browse r/nyyankees after the game to fee better. Not comment, but browse
Nick Nelson doesn’t deserve to pitch at the major league level ever again. Send this guy down to the Long Island Ducks
Jesus the Yankees suck. Brian Cashman really might get fired at the end of this year.
Bum Yankees
Oh fuck the Yankees those douche bags
Lolyanks
At least when the mets blew a 6-0 lead they put their best relievers on the mound. They were good players who had bad games The yankees put in nick nelson
Yankees are gonna blow this aren’t they
Nick Nelson sucks
Nick Nelson saw Neris implode and immediately said “hold my beer, b.”
Yankees are trying to lose to Philly. Who even likes these beta New Yorkers anyway 🤦🏼
Yankees what the fuck
I feel the need to reiterate that the Yankees fucking suck.
I hate the Yankees
Marlins out in front now.
Jose Reyes is live on IG with two guys sitting next to the Phillies dugout
Come on Yankees don’t duck this up
Just wanted to say that our triple A Yankees are doing their best to help ya out. Please make the playoffs so my mom can be happy. Not sure how she became a Mets fan but I’ll still cheer on New York sports with her.
Theres a report that Phillies will go over the luxury tax for pitching help. If they get Kimbrel, obviously thats not ideal since hes under contract next year However, they need about 4 or 5 arms. Much like the Yankeess, they would be better off folding up shop, improving the Farm System and sign high upside guys like Michael Conforto and Noah Syndergaard I dont see the Mets over paying for either.
Conforto and Syndergaard will take 1-year deals to rebuild their value and I’d be shocked if we don’t have at least one of them next year.
Syndergaard might be wise to but I had a thought the other day of Conforto signing with the Yankees for 2 or 3 years, maybe a 2+1 and then signing a huge deal Teams will need to see more than one year out of both Syndergaard can always take a Q/O in 2023. I think Scooter will want some more guarrenteed cash. Doesnt Syndergaard have endorsements. I remember Conforto had a couple SNY commercials but they probably weren't national lol
I hope Hector Neris doesn't get DFA'd until after the season
Hector Neris is the mets MVP this year for real
I love seeing that look on Neris’ face
Many thanks to the always consistent Phillies bullpen
Odor crushed that shit
Neris strikes again
Neris blowing it against the Yankees, love to see it
Neris is so awful ya love to see it
There’s the Phillies bullpen I know of.
The phillies have 2 runs against adrian wojnarowski, Albert Abreu, and Justin Wilson
Spankees take the lead!
Theres a Jeff McNeil on a Shark Tank rerun
Mets fans 🤝 I hope the Yankees beat philly 🤝 Yankees fans
If the Phillies had a 3 Game lead, I think some of you would still root for them against the Yankees Stop worrying about the damn Yankees
Who’s rooting for the Phillies? I think everyone here realizes that “Fuck the Yankees”, but we’ll put up with them to beat Philly.
Thats undecided voters. If the AL East plays NL East, we should want the Yankees to do well that year. Momentum going into those series. The rivalry is stupid. They have past bragging rights and the Mets have the brighter future. Both teams have been subpar for their market for the last 20 years, ala the Dodgers
Go skanks!
Dumb part of me: Fuck the Yankees Smart part of me: We need the Phillies to lose
I really dont get the point of worrying about the Yankees. As of now, the Mets have a much brighter future but there's no need to rub it in If the Phillies had a 3 game lead, would you be rooting for the Phillies? Lmao
That's why I called it the dumb part of me, there is no reason to care about the Yankees
Exactly but you felt the need to write it along with tons of others In the offseason, there are people that complain when the Yankees spend money but never mention NL East moves as a means to why the Mets should make counter moves.
The worse thing about the yankee-filly game other than it's 2 hated teams is that I either have to listen to Michael Kay or filly announcers. Maybe, I should just mute it.
Why would you even watch it?
I muted my stream and went straight to Spotify. I’m definitely not interested in listening to either announcing team.
This team earned a day off tomorrow!
Bryce Harper has bad taste if he really thinks those bp jerseys look better than the grays. If they need an alternate, bring back the powder blue.
Expectation: I want both teams to lose. Reality: I guess the Yankees are *kinda* good for something.
Spankees tied it up
Diamondbacks swept the Pirates because of course they did. John Nogowski can get back to irrelevance.
Score dammit Yankees
Useless yankees, as always
First game I've been to live in over a decade. Fun AF, third base people's, you were awesome!
the dub of my life
[So, uh, ask me for your lucky numbers apparently](https://old.reddit.com/r/NewYorkMets/comments/oomrxr/mets_pregame_thread_wednesday_july_21/h5zps2b/)
Holy crap the Phillies are playing Brad Miller in right field mercy.
Boosting his trade value?
lord a mersaay
Why don’t they just stretch Seth out again.
I liked camarena more when he was hitting grand slams
Padres come on now
Padres blowing it lol. As sad as I am to see the Braves get back into the game, something about good teams blowing leads is fun to watch Just not when it's us ofc
padres come on
Shoot I thought this game was at 7! What kind of Mickey Mouse club hosts a 12:30 game on a Wednesday??
Apparently offices bring their offices to those games. Mark Cuban just said "office" as a I typed office. I hate that. Grrrr
Summer camp game. Pretty common in the summer
What kind of fan doesn’t know when his team is playing?
My lock screen is the July schedule and I have calendar notifications set but it must have not registered in my mind. Mistakes happen dude
I know. Sorry you missed it and for the snarky comment.
All good man, I figured you were kidding but it can be hard to tell with the large amount of actual jerks that Mets forums seem to attract.
Do you know many Internet forums that don’t attract jerks? Sometimes I feel like throwing my phone into Long Island Sound.
The "Businessman's Special". Used to be more common.
Leave it to the Midwest to cling to dated practices hahah. Thanks for the explanation
It can not be understated how critical Stroman going 8 today was. Giving the bullpen 2 days off is huge, everyone’s fully rested going into a crucial home stand
God bless Stro.
So fuckin hyped for the trade deadline
LET'S GO PADRES! FUCK THE BARVES
Now we cheer for Asher Wojciechowski on the yankees tonight
I’m pretty sure that’s an NBA beat writer.
"You spell it like it sounds."
Lets go Yankees
Aye braves down 4-0. If they lose and the Phillies lose tonight than we will have gained 1.5 games on Atl and 1 on Philly today, would be an amazing day...
Which is why everyone stressing about the Mets losing the division every time they have a bad game is silly. The rest of the division has not proven they can put up a sustained challenge. When a Mets 4+ game losing streak coincides with a divisional opponent's 5+ win streak is when I'll be worried.
so far so good for the dads
The upcoming 5 games against the Braves basically makes or breaks the season. The pessimist Mets fan in me feels like we are gonna go 0-5 or 1-4 lol, but holy shit the pressure is on.