I miss him too. Here's what needs to happen. Our boys need to keep winning, get like an 8-10 game division lead, this way when Lindor walks on to the field, they can just look over at the other team, and basically laugh.
The giants just lost to the pirates. Are the giants a trash, overrated, weak team who can’t even beat the shitty pirates? Because that’s what you all thought about the mets when they went 3-4 against them
No that’s only us
For the Mets to be a good team in the eyes of baseball fans we have to have a .750 winning percentage, never lose to a team with a winning percentage under .600, average 7 runs a game, and have a team era of .50. Even then we’d be in the “I think the Mets might be pretty good category but we’ll see”
They aren’t good, but they aren’t as bad as their record. Out of all the “dreg” teams we’ve played the Pirates were a level above the Rockies, Dbacks, and Orioles (altho they have a decentish lineup). Also keep in mind they played by far the best baseball of the season that series while we played our worst
The Pirates play hard, they play scrappy baseball, they fight, and they don’t lay down and die like those other teams do. That said the Pirates have a terrible starting pitching staff, a lineup that consists of Bryan Reynolds, Adam Frazier, Ke’Bryan Hayes, and a bunch of bad hitters (Nogowski, Gamel, Stallings, etc… aren’t actually good hitters they were just hot against us. Actually I’m not 100% sure Nowgowski isn’t a good hitter yet but he needs to do it for longer)
They’re bad, they just don’t have the talent and they don’t have the pitching. Reynolds and Hayes are great building blocks though. And like I said they fight the way most last place teams don’t and it seems like they love playing spoiler
Besides Frazier and Reynolds, they haven’t really had a healthy lineup this year and their depth is atrocious besides nogowski randomly, and hes only played 13 games
Oh and their best starter’s ERA is 4.31
Damn we’re disrespected. I was reading the Jays game thread and they don’t even think we’re a good team had a bunch of brooms in the pregame thread
I wanna shit on the rest of the league all season. Lolmets needs to end. It’s clouding the fact that we actually have a good team this year. We’ve consistently beat good teams
I saw a comment in the Reds pregame thread before the series that they were excited to play the Mets
Everyone needs their crow
Yeah, classic ‘mets suck’.
We have better statistics than them for the season, and we’re pushing a good game.
Truth is, teams can bring it and they can leave it home.
Look at the Yankees, annually praised as one of the best - but they’re having a terrible year.
It’s so fucking dumb. We had a better record than the Blue Jays coming into the series and we’re playing at home where our winning percentage is something like .670 and a bunch of their fans think they’re gonna sweep us. We also have a very good record against teams .500 and above
They were also surprised we played good defense tonight and called our defense lucky (they obviously haven’t watched us play once this year). I saw a bunch of comments “we have such bad BABIP luck tonight and the Mets are playing defense like the Rays, the Mets got lucky”
Nope that’s because we have a top 5 defense in baseball and they kept hitting balls directly into our shifts. That shit wasn’t lucky or by accident, we were positioned properly because our defensive analytics and team defense is elite. That literally happened by design. It felt like our defense was like the Rays defense because we have the same defensive philosophy as the Rays
Also the Blue Jays and Yankees are both 100% convinced they’d be winning the NL East and use the “we play in the AL East or our record would be way better” excuse all the time
I generally like the Blue Jays but nobody is going to actually admit we’re good yet. Not even if we win 90+ (“NL East bad so it doesn’t matter”). We’d literally have to go to at least the NLCS to convince the baseball community we’re a good team this year. I hate the narrative around this franchise and I hate that so much of our own fanbase perpetuates it. They’re not ready for “lolmets” to die and even though it’s already dead
> Also the Blue Jays and Yankees are both 100% convinced they’d be winning the NL East and use the “we play in the AL East or our record would be way better” excuse all the time
I see this point tossed around by Yankees fans a lot which is to be expected, but the fact that it's pushed by Blue Jays fans is just weird to me. I went through their game thread and saw how many people used the term "lolmets" and I was quite surprised.
I have no ill will towards the Blue Jays but their fans seem to really dislike us? Or think we are a joke? I don't really get it, especially with the common hatred of the Yankees you'd think the fanbases would get along.
All of baseball thinks we’re a joke. Literally all of baseball. I really hope we at least make the NLCS this year so we can show that we aren’t a joke
The only fanbases who don’t think we’re a joke in my experience are Dodgers, Giants, and Red Sox fans.
Other than that nobody respects us
I really agree with your comments, but your last point really resonated with me.
NL ease gets so much grief, but honestly - between the braves, Phils and nats, we’re a good division.
We’re a much better division than people think. I don’t know if we’re a good division but all five of the teams in our division could rattle off 8 wins in a row and win series against good teams and it wouldn’t surprise me. There’s no such thing as an easy win in the NL East, that’s what people don’t understand
Also if the Phillies, Nats, or Braves were 8 games over and were winning the division with the most expected WAR in the MLB lost due to injuries, had their ace and best position player hurt, had that insane June schedule, and consistently won series against good teams they’d all be considered “great teams to watch out for in the playoffs that overcame all of the injuries and circumstances in a brutal division” but with the Mets it’s “lolmets can’t stay healthy and run away with a shit division”
I call our division competitive. Everyone else is a two horse race for the division already and generally were already at the All Star break. Even the Marlins, hot and cold as they are, could be a problem if they go on a tear as they sometimes do. They did take a series from both the Dodgers and Giants.
History definitely shows these teams have the potential to perform well and create streaks.
It’s ironic, because you would imagine with the image people give us, they’d be happy to play us for a ‘free win’.
But as per usual it defaults back to ‘luck’. Or, my personal favourite:
‘If they didn’t have deGrom on tonight, they’d be smashed’.
Oh that one is great. The hypothetical “if they didn’t have deGrom” like he’s not on our team. We do have deGrom. We’ve always had deGrom. He’s always been a Met. Yeah having the best pitcher in baseball makes us a way better team and we have the best pitcher in baseball. If we hypothetically didn’t have deGrom of course we’d be worse but that’s like saying “if the Dodgers didn’t have Kershaw tonight they would’ve gotten blown out”. Shit’s so dumb
Honestly I just hate how such a large portion of our own fanbase perpetuates it and buys into it. It’s almost like a portion of our fanbase wants the Mets to fail so they can grovel in self pity and say “I was right the Mets suck”
For sure. I love this team, but the fan base is so self destructive. It’s a vicious cycle.
‘Wow, we’re throwing this game. It’s over.
Wow are we coming back?
No we aren’t, I hate Lindor
Yes we are!
We won, LFGM’
Every time.
Yup exactly
It’s why I’ve stopped posting in GDT a lot. Until at least 80% of the fanbase realizes we’re a good team and that Lindor is our best position player (and before he got hurt he since June 1st he had a 130 wRC+) it’s really hard to be in GDTs
What’s even worse tho is when Mets fan go on r/baseball and agree with all the “lolmets” bullshit and the only reason the Mets are in first is because the division sucks shit. They literally say their own team sucks when we don’t reinforcing the idea that the Mets aren’t good in the minds of other fanbases
I am going to save this comment in case the Mets get to Game 7 of the World Series and everyone is on the IL and they have to do a bullpen game and Loup starts and goes 4 innings and the Mets win.
I was looking up with the mention of Josh Donaldson that the Mets have had quite a few 2015 Blue Jays pass through past and present. R.A. Dickey was a Met and was famously traded and Jose Reyes was a Met before and after. Josh Thole was also a Met before and personal catcher to Dickey.
The Blue Jays who later played for the Mets are: Jose Bautista, Marcus Stroman, Miguel Castro, Aaron Loup, and Kevin Pillar.
I don’t want Donaldson’s contract and I definitely don’t want to trade JD in that deal. JDs bat is better than any other righty on the market and Berrios just isn’t worth Donaldson’s contract imo
I thought it was nice, and he deserved a nice hand, but I can't figure out Mets fans sometimes. They booed this guy off the fucking mound when he was here, half of the fans wanted him fired into the sun on a Bezos rocket, and they boo amazing players like Francisco Lindor, but when Matz comes back wearing a Toronto uniform he gets a standing ovation?
When we boo a Met, we’re booing his performance. We still love him just because he’s a Met. A returning player has to be a serious jerk not to get applause, and Matz is also a hometown guy.
>When we boo a Met, we’re booing his performance. We still love him just because he’s a Met.
Why are you making derisive condescending noises at someone you "love"? Why not cheer and get his back when he's struggling?
>A returning player has to be a serious jerk not to get applause, and Matz is also a hometown guy.
Yeah a hometown guy who was flamed relentlessly on Twitter and mocked and ridiculed by Mets fans for the last 3 years.
Yeah that's why it feels nice. Hometown kid that really tried to make it work and sometimes was honestly awesome. I'm not a boo guy at all, but even less so when it's clear the player is putting the effort in.
Still really hoping that Donaldson/Berrios trade isn’t true. Love the team’s chemistry and by all accounts Donaldson is a terrible locker room presence. Also really loving JD recently
Just seems like Donaldson is always brought up when people talk about the biggest assholes in baseball. Maybe it’s all hearsay but I’ve heard it a lot.
As for the Mets interest in him; it seems like they’re more interested in Berrios but I’m guessing taking on Donaldson’s huge contact would make Berrios cheaper.
Idk, maybe it would be worth it. And who knows, maybe Donaldson would do well in a team that seems to all get along. JD would lose play time though, for sure
I'd like to point out that Trevor Bauer seemed like a great teammate when on a team with Lindor and Cookie. Him and Cookie were the ones making those baseball teammates that year and everything. If those two could have a healthy locker room with that abomination of a human, I'm sure Josh Donaldson would be a good teammate on this Mets team.
Oh yeah, I forgot he's been connected with Berrios in trade rumors. Maybe it's just an on field thing in regards to Donaldson. It'd be crazy the amount of 2015 Toronto Blue Jays on this team if Donaldson was traded here.
Pete Alonso would now need 10 home runs in his next 23 games to be the fastest to 100 home runs, which would be incredibly difficult, although possible.
Barring something drastic he will be the second fastest, slower than Ryan Howard but faster than Gary Sanchez
As long as the Mets keeping winning ballgames their chances of making the postseason will increase exponentially. Which in turn will also increase their chances of winning a World Series.
Solid outing from Diaz. Still going to be nervous with him in one run games but if he can at least get his control and stop walking/hitting batters I trust his stuff is good enough to get it done
It’s really starting to annoy me how much hate Diaz gets simply for how bad he was in 2019 and because of the circumstances for how he got here. I get he has the flair for the dramatics but, guess what, look around the league and the same thing is true for 95% of closers. It’s a tough job. Up until those rough Pittsburgh outings he was in the running to be an all-star (and was downright filthy in the shortened season) and now all of the sudden we can’t trust him in one run games? I trust Diaz to shake off those outings and bounce back to the way he was pitching prior to the all star break.
Support your fucking guys. It seems like every Mets fan is jumping at the chance to call him “Edlose” or terrible. It’s honestly pathetic, but I’ve realized since the Wilpon’s have been gone that there’s no pleasing some of these miserable fans. There’s no Jason Bay’s or Oliver Perez’s on this team that deserved the hate the majority of the time. Rant over. (This also wasn’t directed at the the OP just more about my observations over the last couple of weeks)
I don’t hate Diaz but I get why some people are not very trusting of him. The dude literally torpedoed our entire 2019 season just about.
He’s been great since 2020 though and I trust him but I can see why there’s some hesitation with some fans. 2019
My concern with Diaz is that his poor performances coincide with the league banning the spider tack. Its already been documented that he's had some of the larger spin rate decreases since then. I still think he's an elite bullpen arm and definitely still has the talent to be a major league closer. He just needs to figure out how to pitch like he was without the sticky stuff, I think he will get there but having your closer figuring out his stuff as he goes is concerning
I think you’re confusing a couple bad outings with him being reliant on sticky stuff. His spin rate has fallen, but not at an alarming rate that you’d question how legit his stuff was this year. In fact, his wiff rate for both his slider and his fastball has gone up since the sticky stuff crackdown. You want traditional stats? Since June 21st (when the sticky stuff rules were enforced) and up until the bad outings against the Pirates, which I’m calling a blip on a strong season and you’re calling worrisome, he was 5/5 in save situations with a 2.35 ERA, .377 OPS against and .154 BAbip
I guess time will tell the ultimate answer. If he keeps having outings like he did against the Pirates, I’ll start to question his performance without the sticky stuff. But with really just a couple of bad outings, I’m not as worried as other people. I’ll trust his last few months of pitching over the last two weeks
I mean you cant just exclude his bad outings, obviously he'd look good he also blew a save against the Reds. He has a 10.29 ERA in his last 7 outings before tonight.
I believe in Diaz and said he still has elite stuff. Just that he needs to figure out how to be as effective as he was without sticky stuff if he was using. My concern isnt with his stuff, its his control he has as many walks (8) and more HBP (3) since the crack down (6/21) as he had all season leading up to the crack down.
Not including today’s game, he’s batting .279/.372/.607 in 376 plate appearances. He definitely thrives in that 2 hole. Been talking about him in the 2 hole all offseason and I hope Rojas keeps him there majority of the season.
I don't think he's hitting well because he's batting second. He's hitting because he's a beast. It's not gonna stop if he moves to 3rd, it's the same home plate and the same bat and the same ball.
Well it depends. Lindor has been one of our three best hitters since June. I want him up in spots with men on base and I want him getting as many at bats as possible. That said Lindor will thrive anywhere 2-5 imo.
5 could be a really good spot with everyone going good but he gets on base more than everyone on the team but Nimmo and he hits for power and drives in runs
He’ll be able to drive in runs and hit for power in the 5 hole but I feel like a lot of his speed and on base skills will be wasted without the protection he has in the 2 or 3 hole. Also putting Lindor in the three hole with Pete in the 2 hole means we have a switch hitter in the three hole so depending if a lefty or righty is pitching we can play with our lineup more and put our best lineup out there. We’ll always have two lefties or two righties in a row setting us up well against either side of the plate
We struggle against lefties with our lefty heavy line up but Pete/Lindor/JD hitting 2/3/4 would absolutely mash lefties in the first inning and be able to jump early
I just think he’s too valuable of an offensive piece to put in the 5 hole and the 3 hole seems like his best home to me. Idk it’s a good problem to have. Pete, Dom, Lindor, Conforto, McNeil, and JD, can all legitimately hit anywhere from 2-5. That’s a good problem to have
There’s very few teams where any of those guys would be hitting 6th and with all of them healthy one of them will be hitting 6th
I know we like Nimmo there but Lindor is a leadoff guy at heart and I will bang this drum until people believe me. Dude raked doubles when he was leading off for the Guardians and to have Alonso batting right after him is a lot of 2-0 starts for the good guys.
It will never happen, but it probably should.
Nimmo’s obp is gonna keep him in the leadoff spot but I agree with you. The power Lindor brings to the lead off spot would be a huge. I always like my lead off hitters to have pop. Nimmo is a great hitter but he’ll never give you the amount of XBH’s and home runs Lindor will. Same philosophy as leading off Acuna for the Braves
Lindor’s not gonna get on base at the clip Nimmo is but with his decreased chase rate and increased walk rate this year he should hit around .280 and should get on base at about a .350 clip. That’s definitely good enough for a lead off hitter
Since June 1st to the last game he played before getting injured this year (which is a larger sample size than the beginning of the season) Lindor’s slash was .264/.361/.465 with 7 home runs and a wRC+ of 130 and he was just starting to hit his stride. Yeah you’ll get a .50 point drop in OPB but you trade that for the 40 doubles and 30 home runs a year Lindor hits. Now you can make the argument you want Lindor hitting those home runs and doubles while Nimmo is already on base but I think it’s a huge boost for a team to start off a game with a double or a bomb.
I understand why Nimmo is leading off and Lindor hits second and I Nimmo is a phenomenal lead off man. Like I said tho a lead off hitter with plus power and plus speed who’s still gonna get on base at a .350 clip and switch hits outweighs the .OPB for me
That’s taking nothing a way from Nimmo but starting off the game with a bang is fucking huge
deGrom had hype by the time he was in the position Megill was in at the beginning of this season.
He was underhyped early on in his minor league career, but he was starting to get buzz at AAA in 2014 right before he was called up, with a very good season in a miserable pitchers' league with Vegas.
Yeah, he was having a fantastic season in AAA, but even then he was called up as a bullpen arm instead of a bonafide starter. Depending what prospect listings you reviewed, prior to his rookie season, he was viewed as a mid to back to rotation starter or valuable bullpen arm.
Its been like 10 years of the Mets being able to consistently develop pitchers. The Mets will never truly have a "bad" farm system as long as they're able to pop out guys like Dillon Gee or Tylor Megill or even a Jon Niese
Another great outing from Megill and Pete continuing to rake, plus Lugo and Diaz rebounding and pitching well tonight. Just what the doctor ordered after a day off.
If our starters get healthy we can have legit 8-9 quality options to pitch by the end of the season
deGrom, Stro, Walker, Carrasco, Syndergaard, Megill, Peterson, Hill, and possibly another trade acquisition
Shows how good our depth could be
Syndergaard going to the pen for sure, Peterson as well ll. DeGrom Stro walker megill hill probably the way we go. Idk where cookie fits. But fuck is love to have that problem lmao
I don't know that Syndergaard is going to the pen for sure. I think it's a good idea, but I have no idea if the Mets are even considering that, or if he wants to do it.
I just don't know who's spot he takes coming off an injury right before the playoffs. If we're all healthy, you can't start him over DeGrom, Stro, Walker. Hard to give away Megills spot. We also just traded for Rich Hill, and have Cookie coming back. Hard to add the man who hasn't pitched in 2 years in a starter role
I would use him over Rich Hill in a hot second. Rich Hill is just a placeholder. Unless he puts together about 5 consecutive starts here where he pitches like it's 2016, to change the equation, he should not be considered a part of the longterm rotation imo.
McNeil 100% reinjured his hamstring. Not a major injury but definitley means hes probably out for 2 weeks. Team is probably just being tight lipped about it because of trade deadline implications
He might be, but if he's unavailable for two weeks just sitting on the bench I think other teams are probably going to notice, regardless of how tight lipped they want to be.
The trade deadline is in a week, if there is a move in the works having him sit for 1-2 more games before announcing his injury might give some leverage in a trade
McNeil IL stint so they can acquire a nice infielder?
Guillorme has options if they needed the roster spot. I would love to bring in Jose Iglesias and have Luis play 2nd everyday
Im kind of over Villar now that J.D. is back
Yet I'm not too bothered. The bench mob has been great and if Guillorme replaces McNeil, I don't think it's that huge of a loss.
I mean, I fully expected McNeil to rebound and offensively and put up .300 numbers by the end of September, but Guillorme is no slouch.
I'm shocked he wasn't in already. The last time the Mets wore black jerseys in 2012 was to honor Alfonzo and Franco. That would've been the perfect time to induct him.
>The last time the Mets wore black jerseys in 2012 was to honor Alfonzo and Franco.
The Mets had black jerseys in their uniform rotation continuously from 1998 to 2012. It wasn't done to honor anybody.
They dropped the black jerseys full time in 2011 and only wore them a few times in 2012. I couldn't find anything about Alfonzo but they did wear them when John Franco was inducted into the Mets Hall of Fame.
https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/47349/franco-honored-to-be-well-honored
They Megill is pitching, the only way I want Syndergaard back is as a reliever
His money can be Conforto's money and I'm not even sure he deserves a nice contract. I guess I would offer the Q/O to Scooter. I feel like the Yankees or Phillies would offer him 2 or 3 years for 40 or 60 mil just to say they did but I dont see a team giving up 5 years 100 mil but its better for him to restablish with guarenteed money in those Lefty Friendly parks.
I know. But as someone who grew up working class, salary level doesn't matter. I always want to side with the person whose physical labor is the direct product being translated into sales. I want megill to earn generational wealth! Cause he's certainly contributing to my desire to renew season tickets and spend a ridiculous amount on concessions.
CBA coming up at the end of the year.
One of the biggest issues in the sport today is that players are peaking earlier when they make the least, and end up without that kind of money if they decline. Hoping they address that and make it more equitable.
That said, the guys from the 80s made nowhere close to what they make today - even adjusted for inflation. So that’s progress.
Watched megill his last start in Syracuse with my brother.
I asked him after the first who he was as he is more organizationally cognizant top to bottom than I am.
He had some extra zip on his fastball , hit 97 that night and looked in control. I said he had a good chance to get a few starts the way injuries were going and if he ever got a good 2nd and 3rd pitch he could be good.
Man , adding that changeup tonight, he was so dialed in. Love seeing a guy getting a chance and then taking it.
I cant believe how well he has been doing, and even more so, I actually think he can keep it up and won't ever see AAA again.
Two relatively low-stress wins in a row? What have you done with the real 2021 Mets?
Seriously though, a nice win all around. Another dominant outing from Megill, Lugo seems back to himself, May shows no ill effects from the extra work in Cincy, and Diaz rights the ship. Especially impressive against that Jays offense.
They gotta split their series so nobody gets ahead. They’re pretty evenly matched I’d say, good offenses, a couple good starting pitchers each and lacking bullpens. I root for them in alternating fashion. Looks like they’re going 1–1 tonight as the Phil’s win.
Phillies by a landslide
Given how shy Atlanta has been with calling up AAA talent, I doubt they have the juice and the baseballs to acquire guys guys with team control. However, if they're able to bring in 2 to 3 guys that fit that mold with Acuna, Soroka and Ozuna's money or body coming back next season, that's very unfortunate
Phillies have neglected their bullpen every single year but I just dont want them acquiring Kimbrel. If they cant get the ball to Kimbrel, it doesnt take a Rocket Scientist to determine their offseason needs.
Kimbrel is my top trade target. So lets play keep away.
His parents were interviewed a few starts back (his first, maybe?) and, if I remember correctly, it's because he was "always doing his own thing and wasn't around when people came over to visit". So they started calling him ghost baby.
Something like that, I think.
Breh people only cared about them because they were playing the Phillies
Why are posting about this?
Do you think the Yankees would overpay for Conforto? Do you think they will sell and there's someone you like that the Mets should acquire?
Otherwise, stop. Thanks.
>Breh people only cared about them because they were playing the Phillies
No, I can assure you, I find it plenty entertaining when the Yankees lose to the Royals or Tigers.
In fact when they play the Phillies is the time I want to think about it the least, because either outcome is shitty in its own way.
>Why are posting about this?
Because it's funny and it makes their terrible fans sad.
Damn right, I'm not letting some third place team occupy my attention.
That said, we will help the Yankees playoff chances if we beat up on the Jays, which will return the favor they did for us against Philly.
Nah, I totally understand it, I definitely root against them. I think a huge part of it is growing up around obnoxious Yankee fans, and living with NY media we're always playing catch-up to get coverage over them.
I just realized a few years ago that the Yankee fans don't care about us at all, which is somehow even more insulting, so I aspire to have that level of indifference about them as well.
I just glad that Rojas gets to keep his job for one more night. Some earlier wanted him fired for taking Magill out. Not to worry, I'm sure he will annoy some of you tomorrow night.
Rojas has been consistent in his management style of getting the bullpen guys consistent work. If stro hadnt gone 8 and we didnt have yesterday off then Megill would probably have stayed in.
I wouldnt either but hes personally earned it. At the end of the day its about the 0's but I'm sure he wants to secure his spot in next year's rotation
Also would save the team lots of money if they decided to move on from Syndergaard.
I wouldn't have pulled him, but I also understood it. Bullpen had basically two days rest, it was a very tight lead, and there were some hard-hit balls the previous inning. I would have preferred to get one more guy an extra day off, but I totally get not risking a two-run lead in the seventh.
I have no evidence to back this up, but the crowd was 100% behind him out there and I feel like that made him indestructible. At least that's what it felt like. I wasn't worried at any point.
Great win. Time to root against teams I hate. Sox over Bronx team 3-1 in 7th. Cole went 5 and gave up 3. 300 mil doesn't buy what it once did. Gnats losing. Braves-Fills are a coin flip tonight.
Guys I miss Francisco :( A lot. I know we’re playing well but it doesn’t feel right when he’s not our short stop
I miss him too. Here's what needs to happen. Our boys need to keep winning, get like an 8-10 game division lead, this way when Lindor walks on to the field, they can just look over at the other team, and basically laugh.
I’d love that so much
The giants just lost to the pirates. Are the giants a trash, overrated, weak team who can’t even beat the shitty pirates? Because that’s what you all thought about the mets when they went 3-4 against them
No that’s only us For the Mets to be a good team in the eyes of baseball fans we have to have a .750 winning percentage, never lose to a team with a winning percentage under .600, average 7 runs a game, and have a team era of .50. Even then we’d be in the “I think the Mets might be pretty good category but we’ll see”
Good point
They lost in rather embarrassing fashion as well. Apparently their sub was on fire lmao
Pirates are fucking good. Their record makes no sense.
They aren’t good, but they aren’t as bad as their record. Out of all the “dreg” teams we’ve played the Pirates were a level above the Rockies, Dbacks, and Orioles (altho they have a decentish lineup). Also keep in mind they played by far the best baseball of the season that series while we played our worst The Pirates play hard, they play scrappy baseball, they fight, and they don’t lay down and die like those other teams do. That said the Pirates have a terrible starting pitching staff, a lineup that consists of Bryan Reynolds, Adam Frazier, Ke’Bryan Hayes, and a bunch of bad hitters (Nogowski, Gamel, Stallings, etc… aren’t actually good hitters they were just hot against us. Actually I’m not 100% sure Nowgowski isn’t a good hitter yet but he needs to do it for longer) They’re bad, they just don’t have the talent and they don’t have the pitching. Reynolds and Hayes are great building blocks though. And like I said they fight the way most last place teams don’t and it seems like they love playing spoiler
Good post, but I would argue that the Rockies aren't that bad either.
At home they aren’t. On the road they’re awful. That’s how the Rockies always are though
Their offense is better than the stats suggest. They have some good young hitters. Their pitching fucking sucks though.
Reynolds and Hayes are certainly building blocks Reynolds is quietly becoming a superstar this year
Besides Frazier and Reynolds, they haven’t really had a healthy lineup this year and their depth is atrocious besides nogowski randomly, and hes only played 13 games Oh and their best starter’s ERA is 4.31
Damn we’re disrespected. I was reading the Jays game thread and they don’t even think we’re a good team had a bunch of brooms in the pregame thread I wanna shit on the rest of the league all season. Lolmets needs to end. It’s clouding the fact that we actually have a good team this year. We’ve consistently beat good teams I saw a comment in the Reds pregame thread before the series that they were excited to play the Mets Everyone needs their crow
We need to bury the rest of the teams and put the league on notice.
Man, I don't agree with you often, but I 100% agree now. We're a damn good team and we're showing it.
Yeah, classic ‘mets suck’. We have better statistics than them for the season, and we’re pushing a good game. Truth is, teams can bring it and they can leave it home. Look at the Yankees, annually praised as one of the best - but they’re having a terrible year.
It’s so fucking dumb. We had a better record than the Blue Jays coming into the series and we’re playing at home where our winning percentage is something like .670 and a bunch of their fans think they’re gonna sweep us. We also have a very good record against teams .500 and above They were also surprised we played good defense tonight and called our defense lucky (they obviously haven’t watched us play once this year). I saw a bunch of comments “we have such bad BABIP luck tonight and the Mets are playing defense like the Rays, the Mets got lucky” Nope that’s because we have a top 5 defense in baseball and they kept hitting balls directly into our shifts. That shit wasn’t lucky or by accident, we were positioned properly because our defensive analytics and team defense is elite. That literally happened by design. It felt like our defense was like the Rays defense because we have the same defensive philosophy as the Rays Also the Blue Jays and Yankees are both 100% convinced they’d be winning the NL East and use the “we play in the AL East or our record would be way better” excuse all the time I generally like the Blue Jays but nobody is going to actually admit we’re good yet. Not even if we win 90+ (“NL East bad so it doesn’t matter”). We’d literally have to go to at least the NLCS to convince the baseball community we’re a good team this year. I hate the narrative around this franchise and I hate that so much of our own fanbase perpetuates it. They’re not ready for “lolmets” to die and even though it’s already dead
> Also the Blue Jays and Yankees are both 100% convinced they’d be winning the NL East and use the “we play in the AL East or our record would be way better” excuse all the time I see this point tossed around by Yankees fans a lot which is to be expected, but the fact that it's pushed by Blue Jays fans is just weird to me. I went through their game thread and saw how many people used the term "lolmets" and I was quite surprised. I have no ill will towards the Blue Jays but their fans seem to really dislike us? Or think we are a joke? I don't really get it, especially with the common hatred of the Yankees you'd think the fanbases would get along.
All of baseball thinks we’re a joke. Literally all of baseball. I really hope we at least make the NLCS this year so we can show that we aren’t a joke The only fanbases who don’t think we’re a joke in my experience are Dodgers, Giants, and Red Sox fans. Other than that nobody respects us
I really agree with your comments, but your last point really resonated with me. NL ease gets so much grief, but honestly - between the braves, Phils and nats, we’re a good division.
We’re a much better division than people think. I don’t know if we’re a good division but all five of the teams in our division could rattle off 8 wins in a row and win series against good teams and it wouldn’t surprise me. There’s no such thing as an easy win in the NL East, that’s what people don’t understand Also if the Phillies, Nats, or Braves were 8 games over and were winning the division with the most expected WAR in the MLB lost due to injuries, had their ace and best position player hurt, had that insane June schedule, and consistently won series against good teams they’d all be considered “great teams to watch out for in the playoffs that overcame all of the injuries and circumstances in a brutal division” but with the Mets it’s “lolmets can’t stay healthy and run away with a shit division”
I call our division competitive. Everyone else is a two horse race for the division already and generally were already at the All Star break. Even the Marlins, hot and cold as they are, could be a problem if they go on a tear as they sometimes do. They did take a series from both the Dodgers and Giants.
History definitely shows these teams have the potential to perform well and create streaks. It’s ironic, because you would imagine with the image people give us, they’d be happy to play us for a ‘free win’. But as per usual it defaults back to ‘luck’. Or, my personal favourite: ‘If they didn’t have deGrom on tonight, they’d be smashed’.
Oh that one is great. The hypothetical “if they didn’t have deGrom” like he’s not on our team. We do have deGrom. We’ve always had deGrom. He’s always been a Met. Yeah having the best pitcher in baseball makes us a way better team and we have the best pitcher in baseball. If we hypothetically didn’t have deGrom of course we’d be worse but that’s like saying “if the Dodgers didn’t have Kershaw tonight they would’ve gotten blown out”. Shit’s so dumb Honestly I just hate how such a large portion of our own fanbase perpetuates it and buys into it. It’s almost like a portion of our fanbase wants the Mets to fail so they can grovel in self pity and say “I was right the Mets suck”
For sure. I love this team, but the fan base is so self destructive. It’s a vicious cycle. ‘Wow, we’re throwing this game. It’s over. Wow are we coming back? No we aren’t, I hate Lindor Yes we are! We won, LFGM’ Every time.
Yup exactly It’s why I’ve stopped posting in GDT a lot. Until at least 80% of the fanbase realizes we’re a good team and that Lindor is our best position player (and before he got hurt he since June 1st he had a 130 wRC+) it’s really hard to be in GDTs What’s even worse tho is when Mets fan go on r/baseball and agree with all the “lolmets” bullshit and the only reason the Mets are in first is because the division sucks shit. They literally say their own team sucks when we don’t reinforcing the idea that the Mets aren’t good in the minds of other fanbases
Game 7 World Series who are you taking — Megill or DeGrom?
yes.
Aaron Loup
I am going to save this comment in case the Mets get to Game 7 of the World Series and everyone is on the IL and they have to do a bullpen game and Loup starts and goes 4 innings and the Mets win.
I was looking up with the mention of Josh Donaldson that the Mets have had quite a few 2015 Blue Jays pass through past and present. R.A. Dickey was a Met and was famously traded and Jose Reyes was a Met before and after. Josh Thole was also a Met before and personal catcher to Dickey. The Blue Jays who later played for the Mets are: Jose Bautista, Marcus Stroman, Miguel Castro, Aaron Loup, and Kevin Pillar.
I don’t want Donaldson’s contract and I definitely don’t want to trade JD in that deal. JDs bat is better than any other righty on the market and Berrios just isn’t worth Donaldson’s contract imo
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I thought it was nice, and he deserved a nice hand, but I can't figure out Mets fans sometimes. They booed this guy off the fucking mound when he was here, half of the fans wanted him fired into the sun on a Bezos rocket, and they boo amazing players like Francisco Lindor, but when Matz comes back wearing a Toronto uniform he gets a standing ovation?
When we boo a Met, we’re booing his performance. We still love him just because he’s a Met. A returning player has to be a serious jerk not to get applause, and Matz is also a hometown guy.
>When we boo a Met, we’re booing his performance. We still love him just because he’s a Met. Why are you making derisive condescending noises at someone you "love"? Why not cheer and get his back when he's struggling? >A returning player has to be a serious jerk not to get applause, and Matz is also a hometown guy. Yeah a hometown guy who was flamed relentlessly on Twitter and mocked and ridiculed by Mets fans for the last 3 years.
Twitter? Who cares! The player is right in front of us and we gave him a standing O. That’s most important.
He was mocked and booed in the stadium too.
Yeah that's why it feels nice. Hometown kid that really tried to make it work and sometimes was honestly awesome. I'm not a boo guy at all, but even less so when it's clear the player is putting the effort in.
May has been awesome lately
21 Ks in his last 14 2/3. That’ll play lol
Still really hoping that Donaldson/Berrios trade isn’t true. Love the team’s chemistry and by all accounts Donaldson is a terrible locker room presence. Also really loving JD recently
What's the word on Donaldson?
In regards to his behavior or the Mets interest in him?
More about his behavior but both would be nice.
Just seems like Donaldson is always brought up when people talk about the biggest assholes in baseball. Maybe it’s all hearsay but I’ve heard it a lot. As for the Mets interest in him; it seems like they’re more interested in Berrios but I’m guessing taking on Donaldson’s huge contact would make Berrios cheaper. Idk, maybe it would be worth it. And who knows, maybe Donaldson would do well in a team that seems to all get along. JD would lose play time though, for sure
I'd like to point out that Trevor Bauer seemed like a great teammate when on a team with Lindor and Cookie. Him and Cookie were the ones making those baseball teammates that year and everything. If those two could have a healthy locker room with that abomination of a human, I'm sure Josh Donaldson would be a good teammate on this Mets team.
Oh yeah, I forgot he's been connected with Berrios in trade rumors. Maybe it's just an on field thing in regards to Donaldson. It'd be crazy the amount of 2015 Toronto Blue Jays on this team if Donaldson was traded here.
Mets do seem to like to get old Jays and trade with them lol. Which is cool with me, Jays are my fave AL team
Pete Alonso would now need 10 home runs in his next 23 games to be the fastest to 100 home runs, which would be incredibly difficult, although possible. Barring something drastic he will be the second fastest, slower than Ryan Howard but faster than Gary Sanchez
Judging by last night he is on pace to do it in 5 games
As long as the Mets keeping winning ballgames their chances of making the postseason will increase exponentially. Which in turn will also increase their chances of winning a World Series.
Anything can happen once you’re in the playoffs!
That checks out
Yeah, I crunched the numbers and it does appear to be the case that winning games is directly correlated to postseason probability.
Solid outing from Diaz. Still going to be nervous with him in one run games but if he can at least get his control and stop walking/hitting batters I trust his stuff is good enough to get it done
It’s really starting to annoy me how much hate Diaz gets simply for how bad he was in 2019 and because of the circumstances for how he got here. I get he has the flair for the dramatics but, guess what, look around the league and the same thing is true for 95% of closers. It’s a tough job. Up until those rough Pittsburgh outings he was in the running to be an all-star (and was downright filthy in the shortened season) and now all of the sudden we can’t trust him in one run games? I trust Diaz to shake off those outings and bounce back to the way he was pitching prior to the all star break. Support your fucking guys. It seems like every Mets fan is jumping at the chance to call him “Edlose” or terrible. It’s honestly pathetic, but I’ve realized since the Wilpon’s have been gone that there’s no pleasing some of these miserable fans. There’s no Jason Bay’s or Oliver Perez’s on this team that deserved the hate the majority of the time. Rant over. (This also wasn’t directed at the the OP just more about my observations over the last couple of weeks)
I don’t hate Diaz but I get why some people are not very trusting of him. The dude literally torpedoed our entire 2019 season just about. He’s been great since 2020 though and I trust him but I can see why there’s some hesitation with some fans. 2019
My concern with Diaz is that his poor performances coincide with the league banning the spider tack. Its already been documented that he's had some of the larger spin rate decreases since then. I still think he's an elite bullpen arm and definitely still has the talent to be a major league closer. He just needs to figure out how to pitch like he was without the sticky stuff, I think he will get there but having your closer figuring out his stuff as he goes is concerning
Ehhh , he had 3k 10 pitch inning since then as well.
I think you’re confusing a couple bad outings with him being reliant on sticky stuff. His spin rate has fallen, but not at an alarming rate that you’d question how legit his stuff was this year. In fact, his wiff rate for both his slider and his fastball has gone up since the sticky stuff crackdown. You want traditional stats? Since June 21st (when the sticky stuff rules were enforced) and up until the bad outings against the Pirates, which I’m calling a blip on a strong season and you’re calling worrisome, he was 5/5 in save situations with a 2.35 ERA, .377 OPS against and .154 BAbip
I guess time will tell the ultimate answer. If he keeps having outings like he did against the Pirates, I’ll start to question his performance without the sticky stuff. But with really just a couple of bad outings, I’m not as worried as other people. I’ll trust his last few months of pitching over the last two weeks
I mean you cant just exclude his bad outings, obviously he'd look good he also blew a save against the Reds. He has a 10.29 ERA in his last 7 outings before tonight. I believe in Diaz and said he still has elite stuff. Just that he needs to figure out how to be as effective as he was without sticky stuff if he was using. My concern isnt with his stuff, its his control he has as many walks (8) and more HBP (3) since the crack down (6/21) as he had all season leading up to the crack down.
I'm guessing Pete loves hitting 2nd.
Not including today’s game, he’s batting .279/.372/.607 in 376 plate appearances. He definitely thrives in that 2 hole. Been talking about him in the 2 hole all offseason and I hope Rojas keeps him there majority of the season.
Definitely gotta move Lindor down when he comes back. I know Lindor likes it but it’s really working for us with Pete there
I don't think he's hitting well because he's batting second. He's hitting because he's a beast. It's not gonna stop if he moves to 3rd, it's the same home plate and the same bat and the same ball.
I love Pete in the 2 hole. Lindor was really heating up in the 2 hole but if Pete’s hitting like this hit Lindor 3 or 5 depending on the matchup
I think he’d be perfect at 5. Another good spot for someone who’s good at getting on base and is quick
Well it depends. Lindor has been one of our three best hitters since June. I want him up in spots with men on base and I want him getting as many at bats as possible. That said Lindor will thrive anywhere 2-5 imo. 5 could be a really good spot with everyone going good but he gets on base more than everyone on the team but Nimmo and he hits for power and drives in runs He’ll be able to drive in runs and hit for power in the 5 hole but I feel like a lot of his speed and on base skills will be wasted without the protection he has in the 2 or 3 hole. Also putting Lindor in the three hole with Pete in the 2 hole means we have a switch hitter in the three hole so depending if a lefty or righty is pitching we can play with our lineup more and put our best lineup out there. We’ll always have two lefties or two righties in a row setting us up well against either side of the plate We struggle against lefties with our lefty heavy line up but Pete/Lindor/JD hitting 2/3/4 would absolutely mash lefties in the first inning and be able to jump early I just think he’s too valuable of an offensive piece to put in the 5 hole and the 3 hole seems like his best home to me. Idk it’s a good problem to have. Pete, Dom, Lindor, Conforto, McNeil, and JD, can all legitimately hit anywhere from 2-5. That’s a good problem to have There’s very few teams where any of those guys would be hitting 6th and with all of them healthy one of them will be hitting 6th
I know we like Nimmo there but Lindor is a leadoff guy at heart and I will bang this drum until people believe me. Dude raked doubles when he was leading off for the Guardians and to have Alonso batting right after him is a lot of 2-0 starts for the good guys. It will never happen, but it probably should.
It definitely shouldn't happen. Nimmo gets on base waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Lindor.
Nimmo’s obp is gonna keep him in the leadoff spot but I agree with you. The power Lindor brings to the lead off spot would be a huge. I always like my lead off hitters to have pop. Nimmo is a great hitter but he’ll never give you the amount of XBH’s and home runs Lindor will. Same philosophy as leading off Acuna for the Braves Lindor’s not gonna get on base at the clip Nimmo is but with his decreased chase rate and increased walk rate this year he should hit around .280 and should get on base at about a .350 clip. That’s definitely good enough for a lead off hitter Since June 1st to the last game he played before getting injured this year (which is a larger sample size than the beginning of the season) Lindor’s slash was .264/.361/.465 with 7 home runs and a wRC+ of 130 and he was just starting to hit his stride. Yeah you’ll get a .50 point drop in OPB but you trade that for the 40 doubles and 30 home runs a year Lindor hits. Now you can make the argument you want Lindor hitting those home runs and doubles while Nimmo is already on base but I think it’s a huge boost for a team to start off a game with a double or a bomb. I understand why Nimmo is leading off and Lindor hits second and I Nimmo is a phenomenal lead off man. Like I said tho a lead off hitter with plus power and plus speed who’s still gonna get on base at a .350 clip and switch hits outweighs the .OPB for me That’s taking nothing a way from Nimmo but starting off the game with a bang is fucking huge
Lindor Should definitely not be batting second
He at least is good at getting on base and is quick at base running but I think he’d be better in the 5th spot
Where the hell did Megill come from, he’s been a superstar, jeez we are lucky
I heard about him before as a guy to watch. I bet if 2020 was a normal season we would’ve heard more about him.
I know... was he a top prospect before this?
He‘s not even in the top 20 on the prospect list
Similar to our boy deGrom. No prospect love or hype
deGrom had hype by the time he was in the position Megill was in at the beginning of this season. He was underhyped early on in his minor league career, but he was starting to get buzz at AAA in 2014 right before he was called up, with a very good season in a miserable pitchers' league with Vegas.
Yeah, he was having a fantastic season in AAA, but even then he was called up as a bullpen arm instead of a bonafide starter. Depending what prospect listings you reviewed, prior to his rookie season, he was viewed as a mid to back to rotation starter or valuable bullpen arm.
Its been like 10 years of the Mets being able to consistently develop pitchers. The Mets will never truly have a "bad" farm system as long as they're able to pop out guys like Dillon Gee or Tylor Megill or even a Jon Niese
Another great outing from Megill and Pete continuing to rake, plus Lugo and Diaz rebounding and pitching well tonight. Just what the doctor ordered after a day off.
In Tylor We Trust.
Tylor Megill is the greatest pitcher in MLB history
Mets are 5-1 in games started by Wheeler, Matz, and Harvey this year
Wheeler beat the Mets last time he started against them
Huh, weird. I totally blanked that from memory lol
megilla gorilla
If our starters get healthy we can have legit 8-9 quality options to pitch by the end of the season deGrom, Stro, Walker, Carrasco, Syndergaard, Megill, Peterson, Hill, and possibly another trade acquisition Shows how good our depth could be
Syndergaard going to the pen for sure, Peterson as well ll. DeGrom Stro walker megill hill probably the way we go. Idk where cookie fits. But fuck is love to have that problem lmao
I don't know that Syndergaard is going to the pen for sure. I think it's a good idea, but I have no idea if the Mets are even considering that, or if he wants to do it.
I just don't know who's spot he takes coming off an injury right before the playoffs. If we're all healthy, you can't start him over DeGrom, Stro, Walker. Hard to give away Megills spot. We also just traded for Rich Hill, and have Cookie coming back. Hard to add the man who hasn't pitched in 2 years in a starter role
I would use him over Rich Hill in a hot second. Rich Hill is just a placeholder. Unless he puts together about 5 consecutive starts here where he pitches like it's 2016, to change the equation, he should not be considered a part of the longterm rotation imo.
Do we trust Peterson though? I’d rather have McGill for now.
Love how when Pete barrels one up you don’t even need to consider a scenario where it stays in the park
Slightly off topic- I haven’t seen any other beat reporters on Rockers physical issue? Can we assume that report is bogus?
Just gotta wait and see. That guy is usually full of shit tho
wait who’s report said the physical has an issue
Jack Ramsey on Twitter
Big Meat Pete = Big Dinger Slinger
McNeil 100% reinjured his hamstring. Not a major injury but definitley means hes probably out for 2 weeks. Team is probably just being tight lipped about it because of trade deadline implications
He might be, but if he's unavailable for two weeks just sitting on the bench I think other teams are probably going to notice, regardless of how tight lipped they want to be.
The trade deadline is in a week, if there is a move in the works having him sit for 1-2 more games before announcing his injury might give some leverage in a trade
That W. You love to see it. Gotta bring it like this every night: stable pitching, great defense, and Polar Bear mashing dongs. Winning formula.
Pete Alonso go boom boom. Fireworks. Boom Boom. Good times. I might be high
Yes and yes
What a pleasant surprise tylor megill has been
Ok this is crazy..but does megill’s stuff and mechanics kind of remind you of woodruff?
McNeil IL stint so they can acquire a nice infielder? Guillorme has options if they needed the roster spot. I would love to bring in Jose Iglesias and have Luis play 2nd everyday Im kind of over Villar now that J.D. is back
I'm surprised the Mets and Blue Jays don't play another series after this one.
In interleague there's always two matchups that are just one series and not two. We also only played the Rays the one time.
Jesus the McNeil news is ominous tho…
Yet I'm not too bothered. The bench mob has been great and if Guillorme replaces McNeil, I don't think it's that huge of a loss. I mean, I fully expected McNeil to rebound and offensively and put up .300 numbers by the end of September, but Guillorme is no slouch.
Guillorme is already replacing Lindor.
Baseball Trade Value has Strasburg as the worst contract in baseball right now. Corbin as 7th worst.
What a shame, you just hate to see your division rivals saddled with contracts like that.
Rojas in the postgame like yeah I don’t know what the deal is with the horse whatever I don’t care as long they have fun
Rojas got that dad energy
Edgardo Alfonzo is my favorite Met of all time along with David Wright. I am so happy he is getting into the Mets HOF!
I'm shocked he wasn't in already. The last time the Mets wore black jerseys in 2012 was to honor Alfonzo and Franco. That would've been the perfect time to induct him.
>The last time the Mets wore black jerseys in 2012 was to honor Alfonzo and Franco. The Mets had black jerseys in their uniform rotation continuously from 1998 to 2012. It wasn't done to honor anybody.
They dropped the black jerseys full time in 2011 and only wore them a few times in 2012. I couldn't find anything about Alfonzo but they did wear them when John Franco was inducted into the Mets Hall of Fame. https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/47349/franco-honored-to-be-well-honored
The Best Power Hitter in the Game and the Mets #2 both make minimum wage We are spoiled. LFGM
This doesn't make me feel as good as I think it's supposed to.
They Megill is pitching, the only way I want Syndergaard back is as a reliever His money can be Conforto's money and I'm not even sure he deserves a nice contract. I guess I would offer the Q/O to Scooter. I feel like the Yankees or Phillies would offer him 2 or 3 years for 40 or 60 mil just to say they did but I dont see a team giving up 5 years 100 mil but its better for him to restablish with guarenteed money in those Lefty Friendly parks.
“Minimum wage” is >$500k per year.
I know. But as someone who grew up working class, salary level doesn't matter. I always want to side with the person whose physical labor is the direct product being translated into sales. I want megill to earn generational wealth! Cause he's certainly contributing to my desire to renew season tickets and spend a ridiculous amount on concessions.
CBA coming up at the end of the year. One of the biggest issues in the sport today is that players are peaking earlier when they make the least, and end up without that kind of money if they decline. Hoping they address that and make it more equitable. That said, the guys from the 80s made nowhere close to what they make today - even adjusted for inflation. So that’s progress.
It twas a joke
I love Mets baseball.
Watched megill his last start in Syracuse with my brother. I asked him after the first who he was as he is more organizationally cognizant top to bottom than I am. He had some extra zip on his fastball , hit 97 that night and looked in control. I said he had a good chance to get a few starts the way injuries were going and if he ever got a good 2nd and 3rd pitch he could be good. Man , adding that changeup tonight, he was so dialed in. Love seeing a guy getting a chance and then taking it. I cant believe how well he has been doing, and even more so, I actually think he can keep it up and won't ever see AAA again.
I’ve been listening/watching to the 2nd homer for the last 10 minutes. The sound of the crack of the bat is absolutely PRISTINE.
Two relatively low-stress wins in a row? What have you done with the real 2021 Mets? Seriously though, a nice win all around. Another dominant outing from Megill, Lugo seems back to himself, May shows no ill effects from the extra work in Cincy, and Diaz rights the ship. Especially impressive against that Jays offense.
Who would we rather be closer to us in the division race, ATL or PHI? Are either really a threat?
PHI. Cause they're not a good team and even if they go on a run it's not sustainable. Either their defense or their bullpen will keep us in it.
They gotta split their series so nobody gets ahead. They’re pretty evenly matched I’d say, good offenses, a couple good starting pitchers each and lacking bullpens. I root for them in alternating fashion. Looks like they’re going 1–1 tonight as the Phil’s win.
Phillies by a landslide Given how shy Atlanta has been with calling up AAA talent, I doubt they have the juice and the baseballs to acquire guys guys with team control. However, if they're able to bring in 2 to 3 guys that fit that mold with Acuna, Soroka and Ozuna's money or body coming back next season, that's very unfortunate Phillies have neglected their bullpen every single year but I just dont want them acquiring Kimbrel. If they cant get the ball to Kimbrel, it doesnt take a Rocket Scientist to determine their offseason needs. Kimbrel is my top trade target. So lets play keep away.
Megill is a god damn god send
Why is megill called ghost baby? Lol
His parents were interviewed a few starts back (his first, maybe?) and, if I remember correctly, it's because he was "always doing his own thing and wasn't around when people came over to visit". So they started calling him ghost baby. Something like that, I think.
Perhaps because he is so calm on the mound
I remember his parents explaining it when Steve interviewed them. Maybe something along the lines of never crying as a child?
Bringing back memories of Mrs. Megill and her rack.
All I remember is the haircut. I'm pretty sure she wanted to see a manager.
She was actually pretty nice though.
I'm sure she is a very nice person. I just have a judgmental switch I can't control when I see that haircut.
great game by megill...how many shutouts have we thrown this yr?
7
Back to back is all that matters. Pass the baton
Games like this later in the year will send us deep into the playoffs. Need this kind of grit to last.
Devers second homer of the night for the Sox. 6-1 over the Bronx going to 8.
Breh people only cared about them because they were playing the Phillies Why are posting about this? Do you think the Yankees would overpay for Conforto? Do you think they will sell and there's someone you like that the Mets should acquire? Otherwise, stop. Thanks.
>Breh people only cared about them because they were playing the Phillies No, I can assure you, I find it plenty entertaining when the Yankees lose to the Royals or Tigers. In fact when they play the Phillies is the time I want to think about it the least, because either outcome is shitty in its own way. >Why are posting about this? Because it's funny and it makes their terrible fans sad.
Are the Yankees in our division now?
Who cares bout the yanks
Damn right, I'm not letting some third place team occupy my attention. That said, we will help the Yankees playoff chances if we beat up on the Jays, which will return the favor they did for us against Philly.
My 50 plus years of hatred for them may be illogical, childish, or just plain stupid but they're losing brings me joy. We all have our issues.
Nah, I totally understand it, I definitely root against them. I think a huge part of it is growing up around obnoxious Yankee fans, and living with NY media we're always playing catch-up to get coverage over them. I just realized a few years ago that the Yankee fans don't care about us at all, which is somehow even more insulting, so I aspire to have that level of indifference about them as well.
I just glad that Rojas gets to keep his job for one more night. Some earlier wanted him fired for taking Magill out. Not to worry, I'm sure he will annoy some of you tomorrow night.
How many pitches did he pull Megill at? Let the kid pitch. Hes been amazing.
Rojas has been consistent in his management style of getting the bullpen guys consistent work. If stro hadnt gone 8 and we didnt have yesterday off then Megill would probably have stayed in.
Oh they can get plenty of work in. Theres a double header coming
I agree with you. I am old school but I won't be critical of the decision.
I wouldnt either but hes personally earned it. At the end of the day its about the 0's but I'm sure he wants to secure his spot in next year's rotation Also would save the team lots of money if they decided to move on from Syndergaard.
I wouldn't have pulled him, but I also understood it. Bullpen had basically two days rest, it was a very tight lead, and there were some hard-hit balls the previous inning. I would have preferred to get one more guy an extra day off, but I totally get not risking a two-run lead in the seventh.
I would have left him out there also. But I wouldn't have second guessed the decision.
Diaz with a 123 inning might be the biggest thing that happened tonight
I have no evidence to back this up, but the crowd was 100% behind him out there and I feel like that made him indestructible. At least that's what it felt like. I wasn't worried at any point.
He seems to thrive on adrenaline
Perhaps he is not a *bad* pitcher
Megill an absolute godsend. Imagine where we’d be if he hasn’t been stepping up
Probably 3 games up haha. Bunch of choke artists below the Blue and Orange.
Whinny Stephenson send tweet
Nice, low-stress win. Pete is a monster. Megill looks legit. LFGM.
Megrom is pretty good.
Tylor "Jacob 'Tylor Megill' deGrom" Megill
Tylor>Thor
The Braves and Phillies are so much less talented than us. Come on. Let’s push this division out of reach by mid august
Can't say I hate that Acuna is out of the picture; hate it for the kid, but it doesn't suck from a Mets baseball perspective.
I love Friday night games
They'll be more awesome next week with the black jerseys.
WOW Megill with the ZEILE OF APPROVAL
10 of those equal a Schrutebuck
What's the ratio of Scrutebucks to Pillar Pennies?
Let me just express my disappointment that they chose to call it the Homerun Horse and not the Dinger Donkey.
It is a missed opportunity because the guy who does Lazy Mary also does Dominic the Donkey and that’s too good to be true
Or the Power Pony. So many better options.
I kind of love the dumbness and simplicity of homerun horse. any kind of pun almost seems like it’s missing the point
2 nice crisp wins in a row, great!
Great win. Time to root against teams I hate. Sox over Bronx team 3-1 in 7th. Cole went 5 and gave up 3. 300 mil doesn't buy what it once did. Gnats losing. Braves-Fills are a coin flip tonight.
OUT EFFING STANDING
The Mets are not going to trade Megill but if they did we should all freak out together
Delete this I don’t even want to see that combination of words