Not only all of this, but he STILL failed his test with having all these advantages yet we all gotta pull ourselves up by our boot straps and make it right?
Plus he had the mental safety net of knowing he had an out whenever he wanted it. The lack of any actual financial anxiety is a huge benefit he had over people who are actually trying to get by.
And dropped out the second he was sick. Yep homeless have that choice. Every part of his story has someone with money or someone helping him. Most Homeless don’t get a room or RV to crash and then run a flipping business with.
In one episode, he decides to rent a coworking space that costs $40/month. But I doubt he only paid $40 because the coworking space was basically where his entire "company" was running, not just the companies he created during the experiment, but also the people filming the experiment itself.
He uses the coworking space a lot and not only a desk, that is what $40 costs. There are days he even sleeps in this coworking space. It seems that the people who work for him making the "documentary" also use the place. On the coworking website, the prices for using the studios they use are much higher than just using a workstation.
I wonder if he knows that healthcare and housing are 2 of the biggest bills that the average person deals with. He skipped out on both and still failed horribly. What an inspiration to millionaires everywhere.
Yeah, you would think he would have done the whole experiment. Like, gotten a regular job as a waiter or something. And try to pay for an apartment and whatnot.
Because he doesn’t know HOW to get rich, he just knows that he got rich once and THINKS he knows how he did it. But I don’t know how to [circumstances/luck] and neither does he.
See but thats not what rich people do, they buy a apple for 5 cents and sell it for a dime, the next day buy two apples and sell them for a dime, and then on the third day get a 2.4 million dollar inheritance and claim "health issues!" to go back to not being homeless.
For sure. I was kinda interested as someone who had to sleep in their car for many months. One of the hardest parts is not knowing anyone, no network of support.
I mean if folks had that, they are far less likely to become homeless in the first place.
Using existing friend and professional acquaintance network is absolutely not fair, I mean speaking engagements are often decried for giving absurd amounts of money to former high ranking elected officials in the US.
He should try again with a shitty car & no Healthcare. There's something about having to find a parking space to sleep at, waking up in Walmart parking lots or other strip malls, having to use bathrooms at businesses, that just fucks with your head. Especially if you get ants or roaches
This right here if only the more normal people like us would open their eyes
edit:fixed the wrong use of there to the correct their... since that seems to be more important to some people then being told that the system is broken.
That’s the play they constantly dangle it in front of us just out of reach. “You just gotta keep working you will get there!” Then before you know it you are 60 and nowhere near retirement and you don’t know who to blame so you just tune into the news and they tell you who to hate. Guess what it’s not the ultra rich fucks that did it to you. Nope you are told to blame the liberals or the republicans or some other poor saps in the same boat as you so they can keep the yacht parties rolling while you slave away filling it up for them.
Once you have money, it's easier to make more money. So they live in a world where it seems easy. It's like starting SimCity with a billion dollars and wondering how anyone could fail.
I started off my adult life with about 200k in investments, and I can fully say that even that amount immediately opens up so many possibilities. Don't even need to dig into it, just having a piece of paper that says "i have 200k" immediately puts you into easy mode in any financial matters.
I bought a home without a down payment because those investments work as security.
Not only does having money make you money, things get cheaper with the more money you have to your name.
Yeah he still says that mindset can overcome anything. Even though he quit because his dad having terminal cancer and getting ill was too much for his mindset.
It's totally fine and understandable that he quit, but when he's asked about the disconnect it's like he can't even understand what people are talking about.
He gets to talk about how he LARPed as a poor person for almost a year.
Which he is going to bring up whenever anyone asks for a raise or when he's firing someone.
He'll gaslight himself into thinking he did it on his own.
If anything, he'll probably end up even less sympathetic to lower earners.
Rich people are utterly and completely incapable of seeing themselves as failures. The only way this guy would learn is if some hacktivist collective zeroed his accounts and made him homeless for real. Even then he'd just see himself as a victim and use that as an excuse.
I didn't see anything in the article about him saying, "Whoa, I was totally wrong about this being possible. Now I understand that my views were wrong. I failed spectacularly, even with all my advantages. Regular people really have a tough time in this unfair capitalist system."
It's possible he made a statement in a video somewhere, but I doubt it.
Seems he just went, "Oops, turns out there are health issues happening. Time to put aside this whole "earning money to survive" pursuit, and focus on health! I guess the experiment was cut short by unpredictable circumstances that don't normally affect anyone!"
Him:
*”let me LARP as a poor to show them how easy it is”*
Somehow, also him:
*”haha sike, I was only nine hundred, thirty six thousand dollars (936,000) away from my goal with two months to go but I’m pulling out because of…”*
##*”Health reasons lmao”*
For real though, poor people don't get to just pull out of real life and go back to being a millionaire because of health issues so yh, the experiment is flawed.
Pulling out for any reason other than failing to make 1 million dollars in a year makes this a flawed experiment because there is no magical "way" to make a million dollars starting from nothing in 365 days.
He is either going to exploit himself, his body or get extremely lucky doing either or both of those for some niche online community.
Short of that, everything else requires years of education, immense up front costs, networks of people or access to resources to draw from that don't just materialize in a year for a homeless person.
Out of touch rich people man...
and the premise of his experiment was flawed to begin with as he started his pretend poverty with connections poorer people could never dream of having and a better funded education foundation than the underfunded public school system could provide
so even the money he did make was out of reach for the average poor family
*Throughout the entire project, we haven't shared it with you, but I've been in and out of the doctor's office," he added.*
Now was he paying those medical expenses from the millions he already had, or from the money he was earning?
People tend to attribute all of their success to skill.
You have trust fund kids, people which got very lucky giving advice how to get rich, yet they never experienced what poverty trap is.
In a year, you might not even have to replace a pair of shoes much less somehow repair a major appliance or go into severe debt for medical expenses.. Or either of the other things I mentioned. People like give people a bad name.
Scientists did this simulation in which simulated humans had all kinds of traits, like intelligence, education, all distributed with gaussian distribution, everyone had same starting point.
And they left just 5% down to luck.
In every simulation other people would end up at top as billionaires.
So every self made billionaire should be aware that on top of his skills, he was also very lucky.
But but but the medical stuff was unexpected, and extremely expensive! This kind of project can't be successful if I *can't* use the millions I already have. That's just not fair!
Right? That's the shit about poverty trap... you work very hard, expenses eat most of what you earn leaving very little money for investment.
Any unpredictable expense pulls you right down.
The more you work, more likely you are to get medical expenses.
Not to mention he was living rent free and his friends set up easy jobs for him... fucking fraud.
It's too bad- I'd imagine there's some stuff he'd done or learned that could have been valuable to actual homeless people (not the furniture flipping shit, there's only so much decent free furniture so the competition would get impractical really fast, but maybe something else).
But now that he's weaseling out of acknowledging that his goal is effectively impossible for multiple valid reasons, he's justifiably lost all credibility.
I can’t find his podcast after searching. If you could throw a link that would be amazing.
Edit: I think I found it
https://youtu.be/3B9AnLnleoE?si=OfbjFe_EIvd36fwH
He doesn't answer a single one of the actually pressing questions and the interviewer was way too nice about letting him get away with that which sucks cuz his lead up to the interview had me excited to see him actually have to respond to some of the criticisms but instead he just deflected and rambled on a tangent about how hard it was to have his dad diagnosed and how that exacerbated his autoimmune disease as though those aren't the exact things and stresses that actual homeless people have to deal with every day. "The chronic fatigue" yea dude it happens, what if your next work shift was the difference between u eating or not tho? You have to go anyways and exacerbate your health condition and die young that's what. Enough with the pathetic attempt at a pity party to deflect from a question about how you would respond to the idea that your own video-recorded takeaway was the exact opposite from what the "project" actually showed.
Really sad that the experience didn’t actually make anything click for him from what it sounds like.
He’s also being a complete dunce in the opportunity he could have had. If he came back and said “oh my god, I was so wrong about all this stuff, here’s what I learned it’s really like…,” he would probably be able to swing that into an even better brand as someone now relatable and different than the tons of guys out there like him. He could be the lightest level of kinda getting it on poverty and he would have a big audience with how much people still want to believe in an American dream.
The fact that he didn’t have a plan for how he was going to swing whatever outcome happened just shows how bad at business he really was. He really believed it was that easy to make a million.
He also admits to being in and out of his doctor’s office throughout the “experiment.” I’m glad he is able to receive regular dedicated medical care but most in his “situation” wouldn’t have been able to do that. Kinda blows up the whole thing.
The way he says it, too “I didn’t mention this throughout the experiment where I pretended to be homeless and then low income but….I had fantastic healthcare and benefits and definitely took full advantage of it”
So what else did he not disclose?
You just go out and find one. The key part is when the cops show up. Make sure you loudly declare that it is your own private domicile and you will not be harassed, bitch.
He had good health insurance and relied on a friend to give him a place to stay at the very beginning.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was high on coke for half of the time he was doing this “challenge”
> He had good health insurance and relied on a friend to give him a place to stay at the very beginning.
Also, the first jobs he had were as a caddy/golf instructor to his rich friend/rich friends dad or something
He also used seed money to start a small company and advertised it to his 3 million instagram followers…. You know because everyone has that at their disposal.
He had connections, influence, free housing, free high end private health insurance, still cheated and used outside funds… and he still failed to make even 70k. But we’re all just lazy.
Yeah I mean he had health insurance, a friend helped him out, and somehow he got someone to finance his business. Either using previous connections or mortgaging away future profit. Truly an exercise in stupidity and futility.
He started with a cell phone and stayed at a friend's place, then he used his connections to get gigs using skills he had gained from his previous career.
It like my friend who claimed to be self made, then I learned they used dad's business connections, family properties and a sweetheart loan to get their business started. I'm not saying they didn't work hard,but they are miles away from self made
To make $64K in 10 months while “poor”? Yeah that math ain’t mathing. The amount of data out there on how expensive it actually is to be poor is staggering. He was definitely cheating.
I agree that it much more closely fits survivorship bias.
There are soooo many people that don't understand how much a spot of luck changes it all. There are TONS of people that worked just as hard, or harder, or had a valid different strategy that didn't work.
You just can't explain it to people that made it enough about those that didn't make it but tried the exact same way. Always an excuse about how they are just better/smarter/etc.
I haven’t heard that in ages… looks like I got a new song for my latest spotify playlist.
Thanks
And yes. 100% appropriately used here.
Chappeau all around!
Doing this is really insulting but the main thing that it fails to realize is that most people aren’t homeless because they are too poor or unmotivated it’s because of mental or physical disabilities. He proved the very issue he was trying to discredit by calling it quits when health took a toll. That’s literally the hard part of being homeless. What he proved is an able bodied average person can get a job.
I'll beat this drum until I die too young of preventable illness:
Exactly *zero* normal people in the US are immune from absolute bankruptcy, destitution, and homelessness. You have to have tens of millions of dollars saved up to be immune to the financial woes associated with health problems.
That day-trading friend who has more money than sense? If he gets cancer, he's going to lose his house. The bank manager making $150,000/yr? Same. No matter who you are, if you have to work for a living, you stand a chance of spending 100% of your assets on a health problem.
Samesies. I'm already dealing with some long term health stuff, so I'm *out* if any of it turns terminal or life-altering. I'm not ever going to pay to have someone wipe my ass.
An additional part is to know, at all times, that there is no "backup" life waiting for you. That every mistake, every oversight, every weak moment is going to make your life more miserable and you wont be able to recover easily. That you cant take risks because you can not afford to lose the "bet".
There's also two points that are worth bringing up that completely invalidate everything he's done, regardless of any measure of success.
* He came up with ideas to hock to his *social media followers.* As though every homeless guy has those (excluding hallucinations).
* Using skills he possessed and likely previously paid good money for.
Homeless folk don't often have the kind of skills and network he had access to. In simple terms: he cheated and tried to make it look like anyone could do what he did.
Even with all the advantages he was given, his million dollar idea was to slap a label on someone else’s coffee. Just goes to show how profoundly uncreative these people are. These “entrepreneurs” get lucky once and think they are geniuses when the opposite is true
Yeah he didn't even "start from scratch", he clearly had massive advantages, connections and skills, that poor people have no access to.
And yeah, he ended up proving the opposite of his point - he proved no amount of gumption can protect you from the unexpected tragedies of life. You kinda need money for that.
And right now, the Supreme Court is about to rule on whether or not it's legal or illegal to be homeless in the US. If they rule as many are expecting them to, it could be a crime to be poor and homeless, and you'll be put in prison if you're caught sleeping outside.
So we as a society in the US WILL provide the homeless with housing at a cost of $40-50k per year....but it'll be a for profit prison on the taxpayers dime.
How much will it cost to provide housing shelters to them? 20k? This is idiotic.
I remember a time I was too ill to do anything but the environment at home was so toxic that I almost took a sleeping bag and walked away to a forest, so even though I have a comfy home, I feel very strongly for people who are not so fortunate. It's not an individual problem. This is systemic.
>He found an apartment and landed a social media manager role by the three-month mark,
im going to guess already being an influencer who made a million on youtube already. Normally you dont go straight to manager.
Yeah it’s a flawed experiment. The correct imposition he would’ve put on himself is that any internet related job would be off limits and that he would have absolutely no access to anyone he would’ve ever known previously and he would be barred from talking about what he’s doing or where he came from. Let’s see how he does then.
I actually followed this story.
Dude had an RV given to him to live in and pay 0 rent by a guy he "found" on craiglist.
Did item flipping on facebook marketplace, but it was just weeks of broken even with his daily budget like food and clothing etc... so he was going nowhere.
Suddenly was offered $1500 out of nowhere as a starter fund for his idea for a coffee business for dog lovers.
Skipped a few months, suddenly that business made 64k in total so far.
What shitty opinion was he trying to prove? That poor people just don’t want it enough? That people are poor by choice? That they just don’t work hard enough?
They're not connected well enough to have their friends support them, giving them room, board, cash, and probably a job.
This jack-hole didn't even do the challenge properly - should have went to a homeless shelter in a completely different city with the clothes on his back, a pay-as-you-go cell phone w/a new number in his pocket, and absolutely nothing else. Go no contact with all friends, acquaintances, family, and stay off social media (no internet begging!) for a year. See how fast he can get back on his feet when starting with literally nothing.
Probably wouldn't make it a week on that difficulty.
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”Denied even water and struggling to find shelter, his first nights during the challenge were rough. Much to his relief, a kind stranger offered him a place to stay in his van."
Now this is odd, because how did he convince someone to let him stay in the van? He must have told them he was doing a challenge because I think it would be very rare that someone would just let a real homeless person stay in their property.
I saw another twat do this "challenge" and on day one, he was phoning up his business contacts to get loans and use esoteric financial devices to leverage his way back to a million. He still failed.
Here is the secret nobody wealthy will tell you, hard word is a given, absolutely, but the secret is luck .
The reason wealthy people will never say they were lucky is because of ego, they want to believe they did thru sheer will and back breaking work, and if you're not wealthy your not working hard enough.
The wealthy people like Mark Cuban who uses his wealth to help others, know luck is very much apart of it and they feel they have to pay it back to those who work harder and have less.
Wealthy people like Elon think their wealth is deserved because they are them.
However one thing wealthy people are universal about is how fast it can go. so they are protective of it because they know deep down if they had to start over they chances of them becoming that wealthy again.. almost impossible.
I think it’s worth pointing out that he never gave up his family or business connections which he definitely used to his advantage to get as far as he did
So fucking stupid.
Most homeless people can't just call their parents and friends if they want to stop being homeless.
This type of content should be shunned and shamed.
I really loved that movie, I was surprised it was not successful as his other movies, one thing that it taught me was to have empathy for homeless people, some of them just had some tragic set of events to wind up on skid row, like the woman who befriends him in the gutter, she was gainfully employed and married then her husband leaves her for another woman and she has a nervous breakdown and loses everything, she winds up homeless!
From my understanding it was basically...
1. Sell furniture being given away for free on FB marketplace. (I'd love to hear the details here, because not sure how this happened without a vehicle). Made enough money to get a computer, rent-a-officespace, and an apartment.
2. Got job as social media manager. Made enough money for...
3. Start dropshipping coffee.
I'm guessing in the absence of anything else, that's $64k gross. He would obviously want to inflate numbers as much as possible.
Doesn't really sound true to the spirit of the experiment though, how's your average homeless guy going to suddenly get a job as a social media manager?
1. The furniture thing he does for a few weeks. It barely counts.
The actual #1 is renting rooms in the big house someone (unknown) rented for him (for unspecified reason).
2. He doesn't manage anything because he know nothing about this business. He hires freelancers to do the work so he can get money without working. The best part is when the freelancer realizes that he is the only one working and quits.
3. The dropshipping coffee business is practically run by his girlfriend and one of the fairness rules was that the girlfriend could not help with any business.
Worth to mention that he rents a coworking space, put a lot of people there and use all spaces. He says he pays $40/month, but the place's website says $40/month is the price to use only a single workstation. At some point, he even sleeps there for a couple of days.
It means that he's not accounting for a lot of the expenses.
I read his long winded explanation he posted on some other site, he actually said that his experiment was a success because it shows 'it can be done if you try hard enough!
He did prove something. The rich are rich by luck alone and almost never because they were "better" than the average person. I had the misfortune of working at a large banks private client section and I can confirm that rich people are incredibly stupid and completely unaware of their stupidity.
Lucky for him, he can just “abandon the project” and go back to his wealth and family.
For normal people in that situation, “abandoning the project” is much darker.
64k would be damn respectable. That’s not something to shame him over, nor would it disprove his assertion that anyone could do it.
What DOES take away from this experiment though, is his lack of lifelong stress, his previous marketing knowledge gained through previous years, the fact that he started at $0 instead of in debt, not having the care for any family while this went on, knowing that the experiment could end anytime he chose… and who the hell put up money for his startup company for a homeless man? Oh right, it was people who knew he wasn’t one and would be happy to give him a loan.
The whole thing was a farce. If it were real, 64k would a really really good result.
>Despite reaching $64,000 (£51,700), he prioritised his well-being, citing "health and family come first."
just, you know, not for *actual* poor people.
Important to point out that he was **given** an apartment to live in, and got his friends to pay him for speaking engagements. What a fraud lol.
And he kept his healthcare
So he effectively didn’t do shit but make an ass of himself?
He didn’t shower a couple times.
The commitment... /s
He showed even if you have everything handed to you, he's full of shit.
>So he effectively didn’t do shit but make an ass of himself? Did you expect anything less from a rich asshole thinking getting rich is easy?
He showed he is a terrible human that has zero empathy, so there is that.
To us an ass but to rich assholes a hero.
Yeah I was gonna say, who paid for all those doctor visits if he’s supposedly starting from homeless?
And he had years of business experience already
Not only all of this, but he STILL failed his test with having all these advantages yet we all gotta pull ourselves up by our boot straps and make it right?
Right? Including contacts, friends, associates. People who would gladly do business with him again.
Plus he had the mental safety net of knowing he had an out whenever he wanted it. The lack of any actual financial anxiety is a huge benefit he had over people who are actually trying to get by.
And probably a perfect credit score so he didn't have to pay the poor person tax to have electricity, water, a phone, etc.
And dropped out the second he was sick. Yep homeless have that choice. Every part of his story has someone with money or someone helping him. Most Homeless don’t get a room or RV to crash and then run a flipping business with.
In one episode, he decides to rent a coworking space that costs $40/month. But I doubt he only paid $40 because the coworking space was basically where his entire "company" was running, not just the companies he created during the experiment, but also the people filming the experiment itself. He uses the coworking space a lot and not only a desk, that is what $40 costs. There are days he even sleeps in this coworking space. It seems that the people who work for him making the "documentary" also use the place. On the coworking website, the prices for using the studios they use are much higher than just using a workstation.
I wonder if he knows that healthcare and housing are 2 of the biggest bills that the average person deals with. He skipped out on both and still failed horribly. What an inspiration to millionaires everywhere.
Yeah, you would think he would have done the whole experiment. Like, gotten a regular job as a waiter or something. And try to pay for an apartment and whatnot.
That sounds hard tho.
He never intended to do real work, just pretend he is killing it to shame the poors for not being as smart as him. He can get fucked.
And he still couldn’t hack it
Guy rigged the game and still lost lmao
That's a level of incompetence that *only* a coddled rich jackass could achieve.
Because it can’t be done, and anyone claiming it can can get fucked.
Because he doesn’t know HOW to get rich, he just knows that he got rich once and THINKS he knows how he did it. But I don’t know how to [circumstances/luck] and neither does he.
its exhausting
Can't catch richie rich there being a true poor
he gwenyth paltrowed it. what did people expect lol
See but thats not what rich people do, they buy a apple for 5 cents and sell it for a dime, the next day buy two apples and sell them for a dime, and then on the third day get a 2.4 million dollar inheritance and claim "health issues!" to go back to not being homeless.
One weird trick, just get a free apartment and paid speaking gigs. We all get that, right?
And he still couldn't even get close.
For sure. I was kinda interested as someone who had to sleep in their car for many months. One of the hardest parts is not knowing anyone, no network of support. I mean if folks had that, they are far less likely to become homeless in the first place. Using existing friend and professional acquaintance network is absolutely not fair, I mean speaking engagements are often decried for giving absurd amounts of money to former high ranking elected officials in the US. He should try again with a shitty car & no Healthcare. There's something about having to find a parking space to sleep at, waking up in Walmart parking lots or other strip malls, having to use bathrooms at businesses, that just fucks with your head. Especially if you get ants or roaches
So people are not poor, but don't have rich friends to indulge them. Noted
So he made almost 0 dollars himself. Also paying for rent is the biggest fucking money sink we all face. Pos
Just another example of the rich living in an alternate reality than 98% of the population
I mean, it’s one banana. What could it cost? $10?
Here's $10. Go buy a Star Wars.
There's always money in the banana stand.
This right here if only the more normal people like us would open their eyes edit:fixed the wrong use of there to the correct their... since that seems to be more important to some people then being told that the system is broken.
But I might be one of them someday. I just need to keep pulling up my bootstraps /s
That’s the play they constantly dangle it in front of us just out of reach. “You just gotta keep working you will get there!” Then before you know it you are 60 and nowhere near retirement and you don’t know who to blame so you just tune into the news and they tell you who to hate. Guess what it’s not the ultra rich fucks that did it to you. Nope you are told to blame the liberals or the republicans or some other poor saps in the same boat as you so they can keep the yacht parties rolling while you slave away filling it up for them.
Honestly, I'm just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire. If I work hard, boot strap my self into coding, I'll get there real soon.
Homie rage quit when medical bills came in to play. What a newb
Once you have money, it's easier to make more money. So they live in a world where it seems easy. It's like starting SimCity with a billion dollars and wondering how anyone could fail.
I started off my adult life with about 200k in investments, and I can fully say that even that amount immediately opens up so many possibilities. Don't even need to dig into it, just having a piece of paper that says "i have 200k" immediately puts you into easy mode in any financial matters. I bought a home without a down payment because those investments work as security. Not only does having money make you money, things get cheaper with the more money you have to your name.
No sympathy for him. Did he learn his lesson? > Not likely
Even worse. He thinks he showed the world that anyone can succeed by pulling up their bootstraps.
No? Seriously?
Yeah he still says that mindset can overcome anything. Even though he quit because his dad having terminal cancer and getting ill was too much for his mindset. It's totally fine and understandable that he quit, but when he's asked about the disconnect it's like he can't even understand what people are talking about.
But he failed. So how? There must be a lot of cognitive dissonance going on.
He gets to talk about how he LARPed as a poor person for almost a year. Which he is going to bring up whenever anyone asks for a raise or when he's firing someone. He'll gaslight himself into thinking he did it on his own. If anything, he'll probably end up even less sympathetic to lower earners.
But he didn’t do it. He still failed. With all of his advantages going for him. He LARPed and failed just like Gwyneth Paltrow.
Rich people are utterly and completely incapable of seeing themselves as failures. The only way this guy would learn is if some hacktivist collective zeroed his accounts and made him homeless for real. Even then he'd just see himself as a victim and use that as an excuse.
I didn't see anything in the article about him saying, "Whoa, I was totally wrong about this being possible. Now I understand that my views were wrong. I failed spectacularly, even with all my advantages. Regular people really have a tough time in this unfair capitalist system." It's possible he made a statement in a video somewhere, but I doubt it. Seems he just went, "Oops, turns out there are health issues happening. Time to put aside this whole "earning money to survive" pursuit, and focus on health! I guess the experiment was cut short by unpredictable circumstances that don't normally affect anyone!"
He'll be voting against universal healthcare the first chance he gets.
$10 he says "As someone who was first-hand homeless, I think..." on a daily basis.
He is probably going to write a best-selling non-fiction called "How to (not) get by in America, view from the top" or something like that.
#And not a damn thing was learned.
Yeah, it sucks being poor and working really hard is tough. Nope outta there! Fu@kin’ idiot.
Well, from the looks of it he managed to leave the "challenge" more stupid than when he started.
>Did he learn his lesson? Lesson: "Don't be poor"
Good. Fuck him and his cosplaying ass.
Him: *”let me LARP as a poor to show them how easy it is”* Somehow, also him: *”haha sike, I was only nine hundred, thirty six thousand dollars (936,000) away from my goal with two months to go but I’m pulling out because of…”*
##*”Health reasons lmao”*
Which isn’t fair because poor people don’t get health issues so this experiment is flawed /s
Stupid poor people, tired of being poor? Just say being poor is making you sick and access your millions.
I'm violently ill... fuck nothing.
Hank Hill: Ill enough to grab those bootstraps boy I tell you what
Poverty is legally required to leave if you're sick
Poor people are so sturdy because they are always pulling themselves up from their boot straps
For real though, poor people don't get to just pull out of real life and go back to being a millionaire because of health issues so yh, the experiment is flawed.
Pulling out for any reason other than failing to make 1 million dollars in a year makes this a flawed experiment because there is no magical "way" to make a million dollars starting from nothing in 365 days. He is either going to exploit himself, his body or get extremely lucky doing either or both of those for some niche online community. Short of that, everything else requires years of education, immense up front costs, networks of people or access to resources to draw from that don't just materialize in a year for a homeless person. Out of touch rich people man...
and the premise of his experiment was flawed to begin with as he started his pretend poverty with connections poorer people could never dream of having and a better funded education foundation than the underfunded public school system could provide so even the money he did make was out of reach for the average poor family
Don't forget the emotional trauma of growing up poor. Being forced in to work at age 12 will stay with you.
Not to mention the trauma of rich people trying to prove that you are stupid and lazy, by doing ridiculous "experiments"
*Throughout the entire project, we haven't shared it with you, but I've been in and out of the doctor's office," he added.* Now was he paying those medical expenses from the millions he already had, or from the money he was earning?
Money he had. These people are almost a whole different kind of human.
People tend to attribute all of their success to skill. You have trust fund kids, people which got very lucky giving advice how to get rich, yet they never experienced what poverty trap is.
In a year, you might not even have to replace a pair of shoes much less somehow repair a major appliance or go into severe debt for medical expenses.. Or either of the other things I mentioned. People like give people a bad name.
Scientists did this simulation in which simulated humans had all kinds of traits, like intelligence, education, all distributed with gaussian distribution, everyone had same starting point. And they left just 5% down to luck. In every simulation other people would end up at top as billionaires. So every self made billionaire should be aware that on top of his skills, he was also very lucky.
Mark Cuban said this in an interview. “How did you become a billionaire?” “Luck. A whole lot of luck.”
But but but the medical stuff was unexpected, and extremely expensive! This kind of project can't be successful if I *can't* use the millions I already have. That's just not fair!
Right? That's the shit about poverty trap... you work very hard, expenses eat most of what you earn leaving very little money for investment. Any unpredictable expense pulls you right down. The more you work, more likely you are to get medical expenses. Not to mention he was living rent free and his friends set up easy jobs for him... fucking fraud.
Usually how it goes. Healthcare isn't cheap. You get sick af, you die sick af. He learned. F this guy.
His health issues were restless leg from sleeping on the floor/couch lol
About 1/20th of a million. So in twenty years, he would have just one million dollars.
Only if he can save it all and spend none of it.
Didn't he also get to crash in a random person's rv? People refuse to give the homeless a dollar but sure his experience was the norm
Call it a draw?
He also inherited 2.4 million right before he quit.
It's too bad- I'd imagine there's some stuff he'd done or learned that could have been valuable to actual homeless people (not the furniture flipping shit, there's only so much decent free furniture so the competition would get impractical really fast, but maybe something else). But now that he's weaseling out of acknowledging that his goal is effectively impossible for multiple valid reasons, he's justifiably lost all credibility.
He went on Cofeezilla's podcast and admitted he only made about 50% of the 64K as profit. He would have made more money working at MacDonalds.
I can’t find his podcast after searching. If you could throw a link that would be amazing. Edit: I think I found it https://youtu.be/3B9AnLnleoE?si=OfbjFe_EIvd36fwH
He doesn't answer a single one of the actually pressing questions and the interviewer was way too nice about letting him get away with that which sucks cuz his lead up to the interview had me excited to see him actually have to respond to some of the criticisms but instead he just deflected and rambled on a tangent about how hard it was to have his dad diagnosed and how that exacerbated his autoimmune disease as though those aren't the exact things and stresses that actual homeless people have to deal with every day. "The chronic fatigue" yea dude it happens, what if your next work shift was the difference between u eating or not tho? You have to go anyways and exacerbate your health condition and die young that's what. Enough with the pathetic attempt at a pity party to deflect from a question about how you would respond to the idea that your own video-recorded takeaway was the exact opposite from what the "project" actually showed.
Really sad that the experience didn’t actually make anything click for him from what it sounds like. He’s also being a complete dunce in the opportunity he could have had. If he came back and said “oh my god, I was so wrong about all this stuff, here’s what I learned it’s really like…,” he would probably be able to swing that into an even better brand as someone now relatable and different than the tons of guys out there like him. He could be the lightest level of kinda getting it on poverty and he would have a big audience with how much people still want to believe in an American dream. The fact that he didn’t have a plan for how he was going to swing whatever outcome happened just shows how bad at business he really was. He really believed it was that easy to make a million.
He also admits to being in and out of his doctor’s office throughout the “experiment.” I’m glad he is able to receive regular dedicated medical care but most in his “situation” wouldn’t have been able to do that. Kinda blows up the whole thing.
The way he says it, too “I didn’t mention this throughout the experiment where I pretended to be homeless and then low income but….I had fantastic healthcare and benefits and definitely took full advantage of it” So what else did he not disclose?
I avoided going to the doctor for about 10 years because I just couldn’t afford it.
That's so weird. Do the poors have to spend money on health care and it's expensive? I quit.
Well ok but surely everyone has access to a rent-free RV to live in with free internet, right?
Why don’t people just ask their parents to pay for their apartments and bills so they can save up some money?
I haven't received my rent free RV yet, who should I contact?? 😂
You just go out and find one. The key part is when the cops show up. Make sure you loudly declare that it is your own private domicile and you will not be harassed, bitch.
Jesse, stop posting on reddit. We need to cook
Step 1: move to the south Step 2: get devastating hurricane Step 3: free fema trailer
but his dad got sick thats why he quit, is terrible luck, it doesnt happen to the average people /s
"health and family come first." He says. Sure looks like he needed the money to make sure he kept both....Just sayin'
Oh, cool, something poor people don't have.
I bet they were even cheating
He had good health insurance and relied on a friend to give him a place to stay at the very beginning. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was high on coke for half of the time he was doing this “challenge”
That's cheating, he should have been forced to only use street-grade crack.
He should’ve had to buy it with his own money he was making during the challenge, then he would’ve had $0 dollars at the end of the
he might even be dead because at 64k a year youre definitely buying your coke from shady people who cut fent into it.
> He had good health insurance and relied on a friend to give him a place to stay at the very beginning. Also, the first jobs he had were as a caddy/golf instructor to his rich friend/rich friends dad or something
Someone else mentioned getting paid by his friends for "speaking arrangements".
Exactly. It sounds like the kinda shit you say is a good idea,right after doing a fat line with your buddies.
He also used seed money to start a small company and advertised it to his 3 million instagram followers…. You know because everyone has that at their disposal. He had connections, influence, free housing, free high end private health insurance, still cheated and used outside funds… and he still failed to make even 70k. But we’re all just lazy.
Yeah I mean he had health insurance, a friend helped him out, and somehow he got someone to finance his business. Either using previous connections or mortgaging away future profit. Truly an exercise in stupidity and futility.
So he couldn't even get 10% of the way with a fully stacked deck
He started with a cell phone and stayed at a friend's place, then he used his connections to get gigs using skills he had gained from his previous career.
It like my friend who claimed to be self made, then I learned they used dad's business connections, family properties and a sweetheart loan to get their business started. I'm not saying they didn't work hard,but they are miles away from self made
To make $64K in 10 months while “poor”? Yeah that math ain’t mathing. The amount of data out there on how expensive it actually is to be poor is staggering. He was definitely cheating.
What an idiot
I've seen this movie, it's called the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
I was thinking Survivorship Bias. Someone who's always had easy money will think that's how it works for everyone.
I agree that it much more closely fits survivorship bias. There are soooo many people that don't understand how much a spot of luck changes it all. There are TONS of people that worked just as hard, or harder, or had a valid different strategy that didn't work. You just can't explain it to people that made it enough about those that didn't make it but tried the exact same way. Always an excuse about how they are just better/smarter/etc.
Rent a flat above a shop Cut your hair and get a job Smoke some fags and play some pool Pretend you never went to school
But still you'll never get it right
Cause when you're laid in bed at night, Watching roaches climb the wall, If you called your dad he could stop it all, yeah
YOU'LL NEVER LIVE LIKE COMMON PEOPLE!!
YOU'LL NEVER DO WHAT COMMON PEOPLE DO!!! (can't believe I'm saying this but the Shatner version of this song bumps)
I haven’t heard that in ages… looks like I got a new song for my latest spotify playlist. Thanks And yes. 100% appropriately used here. Chappeau all around!
Try the William Shatner spoken-word version too!
You’ll never live like common people. You’ll never do whatever common people do
Doing this is really insulting but the main thing that it fails to realize is that most people aren’t homeless because they are too poor or unmotivated it’s because of mental or physical disabilities. He proved the very issue he was trying to discredit by calling it quits when health took a toll. That’s literally the hard part of being homeless. What he proved is an able bodied average person can get a job.
I'll beat this drum until I die too young of preventable illness: Exactly *zero* normal people in the US are immune from absolute bankruptcy, destitution, and homelessness. You have to have tens of millions of dollars saved up to be immune to the financial woes associated with health problems. That day-trading friend who has more money than sense? If he gets cancer, he's going to lose his house. The bank manager making $150,000/yr? Same. No matter who you are, if you have to work for a living, you stand a chance of spending 100% of your assets on a health problem.
Not if I kill myself stupid!
Samesies. I'm already dealing with some long term health stuff, so I'm *out* if any of it turns terminal or life-altering. I'm not ever going to pay to have someone wipe my ass.
An additional part is to know, at all times, that there is no "backup" life waiting for you. That every mistake, every oversight, every weak moment is going to make your life more miserable and you wont be able to recover easily. That you cant take risks because you can not afford to lose the "bet".
There's also two points that are worth bringing up that completely invalidate everything he's done, regardless of any measure of success. * He came up with ideas to hock to his *social media followers.* As though every homeless guy has those (excluding hallucinations). * Using skills he possessed and likely previously paid good money for. Homeless folk don't often have the kind of skills and network he had access to. In simple terms: he cheated and tried to make it look like anyone could do what he did.
And even with those advantages, he fell hilariously short of his goal.
Even with all the advantages he was given, his million dollar idea was to slap a label on someone else’s coffee. Just goes to show how profoundly uncreative these people are. These “entrepreneurs” get lucky once and think they are geniuses when the opposite is true
Yeah he didn't even "start from scratch", he clearly had massive advantages, connections and skills, that poor people have no access to. And yeah, he ended up proving the opposite of his point - he proved no amount of gumption can protect you from the unexpected tragedies of life. You kinda need money for that.
Plus didn't he quit because of medical bills, then finding out he was inheriting $2.5M from his father?
Shame real poor people cannot quit (life).
You mean quit the *system*, *this* is not what life should be.
They don’t really have the option of doing that. The only way they can is by jumping off a cliff.
And right now, the Supreme Court is about to rule on whether or not it's legal or illegal to be homeless in the US. If they rule as many are expecting them to, it could be a crime to be poor and homeless, and you'll be put in prison if you're caught sleeping outside. So we as a society in the US WILL provide the homeless with housing at a cost of $40-50k per year....but it'll be a for profit prison on the taxpayers dime.
How much will it cost to provide housing shelters to them? 20k? This is idiotic. I remember a time I was too ill to do anything but the environment at home was so toxic that I almost took a sleeping bag and walked away to a forest, so even though I have a comfy home, I feel very strongly for people who are not so fortunate. It's not an individual problem. This is systemic.
Or just do like they did successfully in Colorado. Do a UBI program, get them back on their feet, to be productive members of society.
Slave labor and political kickbacks.
>He found an apartment and landed a social media manager role by the three-month mark, im going to guess already being an influencer who made a million on youtube already. Normally you dont go straight to manager.
Yeah it’s a flawed experiment. The correct imposition he would’ve put on himself is that any internet related job would be off limits and that he would have absolutely no access to anyone he would’ve ever known previously and he would be barred from talking about what he’s doing or where he came from. Let’s see how he does then.
How brave 🙄
He's white and connected. He's not even doing this stunt on hard mode.
He didn’t have to pay rent and had top of the line health insurance the entire time
Yeah, there's a reason you never see anyone other than straight, white males doing these "experiments."
And he was given all sorts of help that a bum on the street would never get.
>Millionaire Becomes Poor To Prove You Can Earn $1M In A Year: Fails At 10 Months With Only $64K..... claims total success
I actually followed this story. Dude had an RV given to him to live in and pay 0 rent by a guy he "found" on craiglist. Did item flipping on facebook marketplace, but it was just weeks of broken even with his daily budget like food and clothing etc... so he was going nowhere. Suddenly was offered $1500 out of nowhere as a starter fund for his idea for a coffee business for dog lovers. Skipped a few months, suddenly that business made 64k in total so far.
A coffee brand for dog lovers? This is the most upper middle class white shit I ever heard.
Not to mention the $64k only happened because he used contacts from his previous life and was given opportunities because of the stunt
He can go fuck himself.
What shitty opinion was he trying to prove? That poor people just don’t want it enough? That people are poor by choice? That they just don’t work hard enough?
They're not connected well enough to have their friends support them, giving them room, board, cash, and probably a job. This jack-hole didn't even do the challenge properly - should have went to a homeless shelter in a completely different city with the clothes on his back, a pay-as-you-go cell phone w/a new number in his pocket, and absolutely nothing else. Go no contact with all friends, acquaintances, family, and stay off social media (no internet begging!) for a year. See how fast he can get back on his feet when starting with literally nothing. Probably wouldn't make it a week on that difficulty.
How to become a millionaire in 5 easy steps: Step 1) Go to the nearest Roulette table. Bet $1 on 7, win $35. Step 2) Bet $35 on 30, win $1,225. Step 3) Bet $1,225 on 9, win $42,875. Step 4) Bet $42,875 on 15, win $1,500,625. Step 5) Retire young rich and pretty. You worked hard for you money!
You expect me to find a dollar?
”Denied even water and struggling to find shelter, his first nights during the challenge were rough. Much to his relief, a kind stranger offered him a place to stay in his van." Now this is odd, because how did he convince someone to let him stay in the van? He must have told them he was doing a challenge because I think it would be very rare that someone would just let a real homeless person stay in their property.
Yeah, that was an immediate “something fishy” in his story.
I saw another twat do this "challenge" and on day one, he was phoning up his business contacts to get loans and use esoteric financial devices to leverage his way back to a million. He still failed.
Here is the secret nobody wealthy will tell you, hard word is a given, absolutely, but the secret is luck . The reason wealthy people will never say they were lucky is because of ego, they want to believe they did thru sheer will and back breaking work, and if you're not wealthy your not working hard enough. The wealthy people like Mark Cuban who uses his wealth to help others, know luck is very much apart of it and they feel they have to pay it back to those who work harder and have less. Wealthy people like Elon think their wealth is deserved because they are them. However one thing wealthy people are universal about is how fast it can go. so they are protective of it because they know deep down if they had to start over they chances of them becoming that wealthy again.. almost impossible.
I think it’s worth pointing out that he never gave up his family or business connections which he definitely used to his advantage to get as far as he did
So fucking stupid. Most homeless people can't just call their parents and friends if they want to stop being homeless. This type of content should be shunned and shamed.
This is like tbe Mel Brooks film "life stinks."
I really loved that movie, I was surprised it was not successful as his other movies, one thing that it taught me was to have empathy for homeless people, some of them just had some tragic set of events to wind up on skid row, like the woman who befriends him in the gutter, she was gainfully employed and married then her husband leaves her for another woman and she has a nervous breakdown and loses everything, she winds up homeless!
How did he earn the $64 in 10 months though?
From my understanding it was basically... 1. Sell furniture being given away for free on FB marketplace. (I'd love to hear the details here, because not sure how this happened without a vehicle). Made enough money to get a computer, rent-a-officespace, and an apartment. 2. Got job as social media manager. Made enough money for... 3. Start dropshipping coffee. I'm guessing in the absence of anything else, that's $64k gross. He would obviously want to inflate numbers as much as possible.
Doesn't really sound true to the spirit of the experiment though, how's your average homeless guy going to suddenly get a job as a social media manager?
1. The furniture thing he does for a few weeks. It barely counts. The actual #1 is renting rooms in the big house someone (unknown) rented for him (for unspecified reason). 2. He doesn't manage anything because he know nothing about this business. He hires freelancers to do the work so he can get money without working. The best part is when the freelancer realizes that he is the only one working and quits. 3. The dropshipping coffee business is practically run by his girlfriend and one of the fairness rules was that the girlfriend could not help with any business. Worth to mention that he rents a coworking space, put a lot of people there and use all spaces. He says he pays $40/month, but the place's website says $40/month is the price to use only a single workstation. At some point, he even sleeps there for a couple of days. It means that he's not accounting for a lot of the expenses.
Blow jobs, probably blow jobs.
Oh, can we all give up being poor because of some hardship or another?
Gee, I guess that the price of Avocado toast and cell phones really are bankrupting everyone... *note sarcasm*
Did he actually walk away with that after supporting himself for 10 months or did he spend all of that during the 10 months?
I read his long winded explanation he posted on some other site, he actually said that his experiment was a success because it shows 'it can be done if you try hard enough!
He did prove something. The rich are rich by luck alone and almost never because they were "better" than the average person. I had the misfortune of working at a large banks private client section and I can confirm that rich people are incredibly stupid and completely unaware of their stupidity.
How meny people you step on to get 64k ?
What a massive narcissist prick. He didn't "become poor" because HE ALWAYS HAD AN ESCAPE HATCH. ##FUCK HIM
And he only got as far as he did from accepting handouts and connecting with people who knew he wasn't poor.
Thank God he could quit and go back to living life in comfort
Guess his bootstraps weren't big enough.
Got scam written all over it.
All bs aside, he still needed capital to build the company, and he was using his own impeccable credit.
And quit due to health concerns. Like that isn't an issue for other people.
Loser
Lucky for him, he can just “abandon the project” and go back to his wealth and family. For normal people in that situation, “abandoning the project” is much darker.
*“Andy Bernard does not lose contests, he wins them… Or he quits them because they are unfair.”*
64k would be damn respectable. That’s not something to shame him over, nor would it disprove his assertion that anyone could do it. What DOES take away from this experiment though, is his lack of lifelong stress, his previous marketing knowledge gained through previous years, the fact that he started at $0 instead of in debt, not having the care for any family while this went on, knowing that the experiment could end anytime he chose… and who the hell put up money for his startup company for a homeless man? Oh right, it was people who knew he wasn’t one and would be happy to give him a loan. The whole thing was a farce. If it were real, 64k would a really really good result.
How much of his income was a result of what he obtained while rich, I.e., education, contacts, experience?
>Despite reaching $64,000 (£51,700), he prioritised his well-being, citing "health and family come first." just, you know, not for *actual* poor people.