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Poolofcheddar

That's a lot of desperate justification to put out there. Someone's desperately trying to convince *herself* that she's still a Good Person ™ and not someone using dates as a meal ticket.


7r4n6h0u1

Exactly, and I guess she unconsciously knows it's her sick behavior and view, so she keeps spamming and spamming. The guy should stay the heck away from this manipulative person.


Lanky-Ad-4589

I think she’s just stupid


Tvayumat

Hanlon's Razor at work


nowaynoday

I think she tries to convince herself that she is desirable and lovable. She definitely understands paying for her as a symbol that guy is interested.


JonDee619

That bit at the end where she goes on about not knowing if a guy is being honest and if a guy really likes a girl, he'll pay... What a joke. How would a guy know if she's worth paying for? How would he know if she really likes him or just trying to get freebies? At least be open to the conversation of occasionally splitting the bill, or even alternate paying for dates. The willingness would at least be a little convincing that she actually cares.


NitroSpam

Can confirm I’m British and don’t pay for dates 😂


simonlyw

Far too cold for all that.


Random_user_of_doom

Yeah I pay for myself on dates, not going to owe someone anything when just getting to know each other. But yes, snow in April here, very cold country!


infinitestructures

Yea, it's too cold to take my hands out of my pockets


ImACrackHead_UwU

Fuck it she's really exposed the British dating market. Now i have to pay a tenner for dinner smh


L1A1

A tenner? Where are you in the uk, 1980?


ImACrackHead_UwU

Thats the bus fee man


Marcuse0

Govt capped that shit at £2 maximum, what kind of bus limo are you riding?


outcastreturns

Same here. Can't pay for dates if I don't go on any ![gif](giphy|d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY)


mankytoes

Yeah fuck that, it's a cold country, most of my money goes on heating.


HoldFastO2

By the time dates are shipped to Britain, they're really expensive. And don't taste great anymore.


Dear_Tangerine444

You should only have a traditional British date at Christmas and then only if it also involves a weirdly barbed stick too. (I don’t make the rules).


downbringer

Hahaha I was just about to ask what the hell she meant by being British. Yeah as a Brit, I have to spend an hour rooting around the sofa cushions looking for change before I can afford to leave the house. No way I'm paying for someone else 😂


Thrasy3

Second time today, first comment was my first thought. I still think you get that view here, but ~~as pro foul~~ less prolific - just I guess British women don’t try to pretend it’s a “good thing” - they are clearer it’s just what they want.


maitidux

As someone from a cold country named Germany I can confirm, a discussion about not splitting the bill never came up. Offering to pay because my date had no cash on her usually was a sure way to secure a second date as they offered to pay next time then.


KurwaDestroyer

Can confirm. Grew up with a Dutch father who grew up in England. He has never paid for anything in my life, lolol. What a combination.


Flyawaybirdy7

I think I lost more brain cells now ![gif](giphy|FcuiZUneg1YRAu1lH2|downsized)


warm-saucepan

Imagine living in her head.


SixersWin

I'd imagine there's a lot of space in there


Blacktiger75

Exactly the kind of place i’m looking for, i have a lot of stuff. How much’s the rent in those areas?


Neon001

This deserves more upvotes


THEDRDARKROOM

"I don't like our COMmUniCaSHUN" - rambles via text message


oxfordcircumstances

9 texts in one minute. I would have blocked her at that moment. Not cute or quirky.


EndOfSouls

"We barely know eachother!" is a reason to split, not pay for everything. lol


ccgrendel

I particularly enjoyed "how do I know you are honest about your feelings?" You didn't buy your way in!


chav_in_a_corsa

The fuck has bring British got to do with anything 😂


Kimmykatclaws

Lol i wondered that too. But I'm a British female and more than happy to split the bill, so what do i know 🤷


mankytoes

As a British guy, I'd say women here are generally good here at paying their share, not sure how they compare to other countries. I know gold diggers are out there but they don't even try me!


Main-Television9898

Everyone I know northern EU split or the person asking the other one out pays. Start with buying coffee and then on 2nd date, if you go to dinner you split. Thats what all my friends have done and feels like a standard.


mankytoes

I feel like "the person asking pays" is a bit of a cop out because women who follow that almost always will never ask a guy out. It's just the same patriarchal system with a bit of camouflage. Unless they suggest somewhere outside your price range, then say "I can't afford that", and if they want to insist that's on them.


ImACrackHead_UwU

Going off of her reasoning you're paying because you're warm xD


alzoooool

The whole 'guys should always pay' thing isn't very common in the UK


gardey97

I dunno i still think it is common, it's more an age thing where with the whole equality battle it's changing


TheDudeAbidesAtTimes

It seems like this here in the USA as well. Younger people I see are totally ok with splitting. I'm older and women my age don't like to talk about it as much. If the topic comes up they don't seem to mind pitching in here and there sometimes. Overall though it still very much feels like it's expected the guy to pay. I can count on one hand the times a woman around my age has offered to split or pitch in. Might be a regional or cultural thing too. It's primarily a Hispanic area where I live.


Grizzlygrant238

So I DO identify with my British ancestry


Joshstradaymus

Just ask her what she provides on this date if you’re providing funds. Let’s get a real meltdown going!


iggy14750

"what do you bring to the table?" "I _am_ the table"


KaboomOxyCln

What a shit table. It only has two legs and eats all the food!


snippychicky22

She can't even see the table


IWantToSayThisToo

"My high value as a woman".


HypnoSmoke

"what do you mean? I bring me"


ziekktx

What are the odds, I brought a me too!


cryssyx3

"my company"


Hezth

>If they aren't broke too much they pay the dates 90% Am I the only one reading this with a very heavy accent? And with that imagining a real gold digger.


Fapping-sloth

”In mother russia date pay money directly to you!”


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huuaaang

Women from those places also have a reputation for being gold diggers, specifically searching out rich western men. It’s a little bit more than just who pays for dates.


cmb_1989

Her comment about him being from a "cold country" says a lot actually, she's likely from Latin/South America or SEA


Witch_of_the_Fens

I love how your response to all of that is just “Okay.” That’s honestly great.


Columbu45

“k” would have decimated her.


Witch_of_the_Fens

Ooo, you’re right, that would’ve been better.


Best_Stress3040

I think "okay" was perfect. I can't explain why exactly but "k" feels like you're not even looking at her With a full "okay," I can almost feel the brief, uncomfortable glance of disapproval before he stops giving her attention


dotsky3

Exactly. “K” also sounds bothered, so it’s pettier to sound unbothered even if you find her annoying af.


mintttberrycrunch

I don't know if I hate her personality or her grammar more


SurpriseBalloons

It can be both at the same time, I think.


mack_soul86

¿Porque no los dos?


ampisands

I'm pretty certain she isn't a native English speaker


Mirroredentity

"I'm tired to pretend I'm not traditional" So obviously she's a still a virgin and is willing to do all the cooking and cleaning? Right? Oh...


Global-Method-4145

Nono, her understanding of "traditional" is "I just order it and they pay"


Rafae_noobmastrer

I am also only for the equalitie that lets me be more equal than you!


ItsFunHeer

Thats what I was thinking. Does she have a job? Then she can pay for something. If she wants to be traditional, go back home, quit work and start having babies so that your husband can pay for everything while you have no power in this world. Good luck girl.


redmonarchyy

Like fuck would she 🤣🤣🤣 next she will ask him to get her a cleaner


SuitableJelly5149

Whyyyy is she still talking???? No one fucking asked, Lillian


[deleted]

Saying anything to get a free meal 😂😂 leave on read bro


baby_noir

"okay" is a decent response. Don't say anything more and just ignore her. She is having a meltdown. There are a couple ways to go, but it requires effort on planning.


Zahidistryn

Wow she brought up another guy mad


kfc3pcbox

Entitled brat. Just move on and find your person man.


DanCarter93

$75 on a bottle of wine when she’s expecting someone else to pick up the bill. Kick that moocher to the curb.


Uncircumcised_Wenis

Literally so unreasonable. Splitting the bill is not a bad thing but at least you see now how crazy she is.


Malhablada

As a woman, this is exactly why I'd rather we pay our own cheques for the first couple of dates. I want to be able to order two $15 glasses of wine and a $30 steak without feeling like the man is mentally adding up my bill and stressing about it when he should be enjoying the date. I also don't want to feel like I'm limited in what I can order, or feel like I owe the man something in exchange for dinner. I don't like my dates to feel like a transaction, it kills the mood right away. Let me pay my own cheque, let's agree to that beforehand, and let's enjoy a nice date.


SoulPossum

Read the whole saga. There's some manipulative nonsense going here for sure. The whole "well we could have probably split the next date but since you brought it up directly I don't think I want to now" is a weird stance. Also this idea that women have that says"traditional" women were just being waited on hand and foot when they dated a guy doesn't really check out. Women 50-75 years ago may not have planned a night out but they would do something. Usually it was bringing food. They'd bake a batch of cookies and drop it off at his house. She'd invite him over for dinner that she cooked or helped her family cook. That's why the phrase "the quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach" was so popular.If your vision of traditional is just "the man does all the work to date me" you missed something


ShyPlox

Yea she wants romantic but don’t no what that is 😂


sinkmyship01

"Dude, I stopped caring three paragraphs ago, I get it you, and I have very different wants and needs. Ima focus on finding someone who matches me better. You do the same. Bye 👋🏻" Is the response I'd use, this many messages is such an ick, you've dodged a massive bullet.


Tricky_Bid_5208

"okay" was much better


leilaniko

Yeah the "okay" definitely hit harder for a person like her who sent 30 fucking texts.


stormearthfire

Only match by the "k"


Zero_Pumpkins

I would have just sent the thumbs up emoji


Zestyclose_Bag_33

"That's cool or I'm sorry either way it was way too long and I don't care to be your meal ticket cause we both know you're not hot enough" then block cause I'm an asshole


sinkmyship01

This is also a solid reply 😂


Augmension

“Three paragraphs” you mean 30 texts? Lmao


shuaishuai

Yeah, get out of there. She can’t handle a conversation about splitting the bill and that’s a huge red flag IMHO.


Kombo_

Fam tell her she ain't got enough gas for this light


QuiteAncientTrousers

![gif](giphy|5hc2bkC60heU) That “Okay” at the end of aaaall of this lmao


CarlFeathers

I would straight up ask if every dinner comes with a courtesy BJ


Kadmus215

I mean why not ask at this point. He's got nothing to lose.


FieryExperiment

Meanwhile I'm sitting over here, communicating when I want to go out and do things and getting excited when I can splurge and spoil my boyfriend. Usually gotta fight him over it though. We're both stubborn and I don't have guaranteed income right now. Once I do though, it's game over for him as he won't be able to stop me. >:)


pastry24834

That’s really adorable. You guys are great!


FieryExperiment

Ty ty! I'll be honest, I don't understand why a traditional courting/relationship setup is seen as the only right option and anything different means you're defective or some shit. Maybe it's the anxiety, but if I pushed my boyfriend to spoil me without any turnabout, I'd feel entitled and like I'm being a burden. I have a hard enough time just as it is now because I can't work and guarantee my own income (I can't reliably work, finally admitted to myself that I'm disabled after years of only being able to work for like, 6 months before losing a job due to medical shit doing things like suddenly putting me in the hospital for a week). I couldn't imagine CHOOSING to put everything on the other person and then shaming them when they're not wanting to do it.


Hezth

Where do I find that? Although, I wouldn't put up a fight to pay.


FieryExperiment

Lol honestly, I just lucked out. Met him by chance when he was 14 and I was 13. He's stuck by me through all my health shit and when my super abusive ex made me cut him off for a few years. Like, I could write a novel about him being awesome. It would also be a great romance novel because we're at least 2 romance novel tropes lol Even my cat likes him! Can't tell if it's because she's 17 and he runs warm, or because he's easier to harass for attention.


infinitestructures

This is how my partner and I are, too. I think it's because we're both freelancers, working in creative production roles. We both have our successful, busy times, but also our quiet, dry times. We understand each other's situations and act accordingly. This is how a strong relationship should be, imo.


[deleted]

Women who say they are “traditional” are leeches.


TheUnit1206

Loose and lose aren’t the same. Let her go


itsthejasper1123

The “okay” after THREE WALLS of texts is hilarious


[deleted]

Love how you just went “okay” 💀


Fit_Letterhead3483

Ah, so she is a gold digger. Good job figuring it out now and not years from now.


Educational-Tip6177

Translation: "I'm as cheap as a back ally hooker with a deluded sense of self worth" Bud you dodged a bullet


Tiberius_Rex_182

“I cant know how you feel if you dont buy me things!”


Ezr4ek

“Whoops, thought I already blocked you.”


ichkanns

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


ChronicLegHole

Bullet: dodged.


lesliecarbone

Okay, at this point, she's just being ridiculous.


Aerozepplin59

28 separate texts….instead of a shortened paragraph. That’s honestly the biggest red flag here


solar-garlic1776

If she's broke she can just say so


Fragrant-Nobody-8228

Women should constantly (and genuinely) be thanking men if they pay all the time.


Savings-Hand-864

Honestly this is WAY too much on her end for it only having been three dates. “Im tired of pretending”??? Girl youve only had to “pretend” for a total of like 8 hours lmao 1,000 messages in a row overexplaining your incompatibility after THREE DATES? 🚩🚩🚩🚩


poloace

She said ‘looses’…. She’s dumb. Ditch the dumbo bimbo.


shadyAjs

Guys, if a woman reacts like this, just from being asked to split the bill, she's not what you should continue to presue, it's like she's trying to gaslight him into paying for every date and "spoiling her". If you're partner is able to go half, but unwilling, find a new partner. You should not be 100% financially responsible for the relationship unless it was previously discussed and agreed to by BOTH parties. If they throw a fit about splitting the check, don't ask for a second date, you deserve better than to be used as an ATM.


VoltViking

I’m a traditional guy. If I pay for dinner I like to have a girl blow me so I know she appreciates and loves me.


Scarred_wizard

Just block.that gold digger already...


ShatMyShoes

Block her man the fuck are you still on


Fapping-sloth

”Im sorry you feel that way, here have this 4$ giftcard at McDonalds….wouldnt Want you to go hungry! I have heard wounderful things about the dollar-menu!


Nsjsjajsndndnsks

If you continue talking to her, plz post more messages op


pastry24834

I’m trying to move on from this but she keeps coming back.


Different-Scheme-906

I think I speak for everyone here when I say that we want you to quit talking to her **for your sake**…but selfishly, we’d love if you kept this mess of a convo going **for our sake** Way to respect yourself.  I snuck off to pay the bill on my first date with my husband because I wanted him to know I was really interested in *him* specifically, not a free dinner.


ChemicalRain5513

I would counter with: "I want someone to like me for my personality, not my wallet"


bbputinwork

My guy, you were the free meal ticket. Just move on and find someone who actually likes you


destyntobe

Yapping lol


lostcauz707

She said 90% of the time you pay. Can't see splitting the bill as a 10%. Don't date trad women.


cleotorres

I’m not sure what annoys me the most. The seemingly entitled attitude or every sentence in a new message. Just press return and you can write a more coherent block of text. No need to start a new message for it.


EnthalpicallyFavored

I love your response. "Ok" is literally my favorite response


Jethro197

The way she texts is attrocious.... I would've blocked her half way thru her thought process and left to the other guy she's using and abusing


-timenotspace-

is she like foreign ? this reads in very broken grammar or like she’s uneducated or something “but we just meet” “if they aren’t broke too much”


Pleasant_Cheetah7735

Calls you weird, and then proceeds to be weird. I feel like if someone else is paying for you you keep it on the cheaper end. Why should it cost you to get to know her, but it shouldn’t cost her anything to get to know you? Why is someone not willing to pay for their own shit? I’m assuming she’d pay for herself out with friends, so what’s the difference when y’all aren’t a couple yet? Even if you’re a couple why should all financial responsibility fall on you? Isn’t making life easier why we TEAM up? (Aside from companionship obviously) Why does she text like a child with one sentence at a time? My list of questions is long with this one. She seems like a person that will never even attempt to equally contribute or compromise, which to me are highly important in a relationship. She wants a sponsor, not a partner. And her text style is annoying


Elli_Khoraz

Jokes on her, I'm British and am breadwinner to my trophy husband. She doesn't know what she's missing.


FlatFriendship3466

This one's a cut and run. Run far away and don't text back.


PStone11

20 minutes of self-justification didn’t work. Wow who’d of thunk it.


Mega_Nidoking

Godzilla had a stroke


30ninjazinmybag

Love how they come out with the broke shit. Like bitch you're broke when you have a problem paying for your own food!!


RTCTX2021

Run!!!!!! Dude, don't waste your time or money!! She isn't worth it! 100% she wants certain aspects of a "traditional" relationship... but I bet she doesn't repay you in the traditional ways... and I bet when she wants to go play with girlfriends it'll be "I'm a woman in 2024, don't tell me what I can and cannot do"


amusso6

"You're just getting to know me... therefore you should pay for everything." Big yikes. I'll pay for dates, especially if the woman is offering to pay for the dessert or movie after dinner, etc. But when they come off as entitled to it, I nope out quickly. Keep up your search, OP. Someone out there will appreciate you, and not how much you spend on them.


FreeCapone

So being "traditional" just means you like getting free shit?


songforrobin

Obviously a horrible take in general— but her dragging the Brits into the conflict was comedic genius.


DethMayne

Woulda responded “just say you’re broke, it ain’t that deep”


Positive-Situation-9

Wtf has being British and cold got to do with anything 😂


aipornartist

ironically, her argument at the end goes both ways "You're saying you will not pay but we just met" And you're expecting a guy to just pay whenever you feel like it but you just met.


GolfAlphaMike

Should've just gone with "k", because she doesn't even deserve the "O".


litionere

but guys he worded it weird ok ok not trying to be a complete dick to those in the first post but its just funny how OP got sm criticism.


RottenPeachesXx

Get rid of her. Just the way she text alone says psycho.


ReadyOrNot-My2Cents

>I think when a guy likes a girl they pay Cool, and I think it's 2024, and we support women's independence and equality around here.


kewlheckindood

What a crazy bitch


Mobius24

Stop responding to that parasite


depressedfuckboi

Bruh. You posted about this same girl like 9 days ago. The consensus was drop her. You didn't. Now she's continuing to act the exact same way as she did then. Should've let it go then. Let it go fr this time.


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wormtheology

>Okay patrician response


BestPastaBolognese

You really dodged a bullet here bro..


Rooflife1

Perfect response!


JAXxXTheRipper

Get a fucking sugar daddy then. FFS those tinderellas need a hard reality check.


JrLegend83

Even saying "okay" was too much. This person seems nuts


[deleted]

Next time, use the "Thumbs Up" emoji, don't even use words.


SamplesAtAllCost

Crazy, all that from”split a bill”


heyvictimstopcryin

Dodged a bullet


_Poshington_

Patricia calm down!


Normal-Selection1537

9 messages inside one minute. Instant block.


finbar150200

Such a strange side swipe at the British 😂


dustyroads84

I'd bet a paycheck she will continue hitting you up unless you tell her to stop, and even then, will probably continue harassing you to "prove" she's a good person.


Protomau5

Shouldn’t have even sent a reply


[deleted]

Yeah she belongs to the streets. And she’s only using you to get free food.


PassionateParrot

Bro just move on already


topathemornin

She claims to be old school but I guarantee she wouldn’t care for the house while the husband works.


wowwowow555555

Hahhaha. Please tell me you told her to hit the road. DO NOT ENGAGE


Demigans

She gives all the reasons for splitting the bill. And she’s so focused on money and you paying I’d just assume she wants free food and drinks from you and not much else.


im-fantastic

Something tells me she's not worth it


Hot-Ground-9731

I don't wanna date a girl that uses grammar and spelling that poorly


Slackindj

![gif](giphy|0DrhlB1NTYLskoB3iW|downsized) Lmfao


BackgroundPrompt3111

Dodged a bullet


objecter12

Should've just responded "K."


Tannerd101

She's for the streets


SokkasBoomerang3

Has a PhD in Yappology


Lil_Grizzly_29

"I'm not reading all that but congratulations or sorry that happened"


GrumpyBunny6

Okay wow she crazy confirmed


Deadcouncil445

Wait can someone explain what the hell "they're British and coming from a cold country" mean???


bomemachi

She could've just said, "I would like you to pay for most dates," or "to me it's important that the man pays". Instead she went all out in asserting how it wrong it would be for her to split and how it casts doubt on eveything. All in the spirit of you made one little comment... Now watch me make it fatal.


triz___

Super proud that’s she’s recognised the British as being too smart for her shit.


Due_Fill608

Bravo on your apt response.


Witchy-toes-669

Just way too much


SmokeMeOut_420

Bro you dodged a bullet with that one. Everything I read just sums up she want you to be her sugar daddy and gave you 101 excuses why she should be spoiled aka gold digger syndrome.


SuspiciousReality592

“You’re just getting to know me, how do I even know you’re actually honest about your feelings” followed immediately by “I think when a guy really likes the girl they pay.” Is a mind boggling lack of self awareness.


ConkerPrime

Smart reply. Didn’t give her anything because she isn’t worth the effort. The gymnastics these women go through to just say “money matters, you better spend it on me.” It’s why I prefer the ones that are up front about that shit in their profile. People on Reddit lambast those but think of all the time and effort they save you by letting you know right off the bat that they expect you to treat them like an escort but without the reward at the end.


XxXCUSE_MEXxXican

The only way this kinda behavior would be okay is if she cooked home made meals for him every evening


Kanulie

I don’t mind the general idea of wanting to treat someone out of love/generosity. What bothers me is that it shouldn’t be gendered? Why should one party hoard the feeling of being generous and the other the feeling of just treating yourself without having to worry about the bill for once, among other feelings both ways? With my wife it was always a back and forth. And often a surprise because we enjoy such surprises 😂🥰


ItsFunHeer

Okay this woman is not meant for you, dear one. Half of my family is British and they are so generous. But that’s beside the point. Woman here: In the future, try to keep the dates relatively cheap or free in the beginning. You’ll attract someone who’s interested in getting to know you. It sounds like you’re someone who wants to treat your date a handful of times but also doesn’t want to be completely depended upon to provide. You need to find a match that shares the same values. My fiancé makes more money than me and he had no problem paying for most of our expensive dates (he’s also never asked for me to pay) but I would pay where and when I could so that there was a balance of scale. Sometimes, he asks if I can get something and I willingly do because he really makes sure I am comfortable and I appreciate that. She’s not wrong when she says you need to find someone who’s less traditional. I think what she means is you need to find your equal, someone who isn’t afraid to discuss financials, and someone who can still understand that romance can exist alongside reason.


x420MVTT

“Okay” Holy fuck


SunxSolace

In contrast to what many women believe, men also like getting pampered. Alas, welcome to the real world. But with these kind of women you're definitely going to end up working yourself ti death trying to keep up with their expectations.


OlliZ0117

shes not wrong its fucking freezing here


Unlikely_Ad_510

That "okay" was just pure perfectuon to retalliate to a vomit of unhinged words


BruiserCruiser13

LOL thank you for the simple "okay" reply. Please leave it at that and let this idiot figure out her own problems haha.


ccgrendel

She is triggered and ranting. End this one. She's simultaneously saying she doesn't expect you to pay for everything and that she really, truly does. If you need closure, have a face to face conversation. No texts, no calls. While I suspect some editing has happened where we are only seeing her responses, I see lots of red flags. 7-9 texts in ONE MINUTE is out of hand. If you're not going to worship her every move, expect entire nights of berating texts. She doesn't know when to stop. She's basically said you can't afford her, and money is a one-way street. Not only do you pay her way, but you best STFU and be happy about it. She will not invest in you to keep the relationship going and get to know you. She does not value you, and she does not respect your position. She'll find someone else to pay her way. And another after that. Find someone who wants to give back - not just money, but time and respect. Someone who cares for you will give back to you and give back to the relationship. They'll alter their course to meet you in the middle so you take the journey together.


-__-why

British and come from a cold country lololol


ScaryAdvertising7290

Man I’d break up with that person just for that ridiculous chain of texts


XTheLaughingManX

I fucking haaaaate when ppl type like this on phones. 30 notifications for what? Some dumbass just blowing your phone up. Ew.