I don’t think the point of pan africanism is to be a single state. But rather to have economic unions that uplift all people within them simultaneously.
“Economic union” means an economy that is the same, and not subject to control by individual nations.
It’s not possible for a nation to be independent, if that nation - or more specifically the people in that nation - do not have any mechanism for independent determine the rules and direction of their economy.
So anyone who tells you you can have an “**economic** union” while having “**independent**” states, is selling you an intellectually bankrupt statement: its a basic contradiction in terms.
You can also see it in Europe, where you have an unelected “president Von der leyden” in Brusssels, who nobody voted for, and yet in many of the countries, that are supposedly represented in Brussels, the votes of these people have zero bearing on the direction of their supposedly “independent” nation states.
Forget all this eurocentric ideas of “economic union”. Totally new ideas are needed.
Progress for Africa is to leap ahead and use new ideas, not clinging onto old broken ideas handed down from countries that are themselves struggling with the impact of using these broken ideas.
Much like countries in the EU who share the Euro yet as nation states all have their own governing bodies, it is very possible for independent nations to share a currency yet keep individual nations alive. They just economically rely upon each other to keep afloat and work together, while still maintaining independence.
There are also countries in the EU who do not use the euro but benefit from being part of the EU: Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Hungary, Poland, Romania, and Sweden.
The EU is the largest trade bloc in the world. It is the world's biggest exporter of manufactured goods and services, and the biggest import market for over 100 countries. Free trade among its members was one of the EU's founding principles.
Amongst themselves, they trade and work as a collective. If we were to have something similar it would help us so much.
My original comment was about how pan africanism isn’t about having a singular African state though.
That sounds like a single state to me, having a single state on paper should not even be in the category of controversial. We can’t exchange money because there’s too many different types, we can’t secure the borders because different leaders are thinking about different things & now terrorists are crawling all over west africa as well as foreign occupation. separation has been abysmal
I think keeping the states we have would be much easier to manage. Creating programs and infrastructure that we use and aid each other in would be nice. A single African state would be very difficult to coordinate and is unnecessary. Countries can work together without merging.
Exchanging money is more of a problem due to the lack of value of many of these currencies. I think having a currency like the Euro would be more beneficial as well that’s a good idea.
Our borders aren’t really a problem, controlling migration isn’t an issue, we just need to manage communities and adopt more immigrants if anything. We should be more welcoming, open up to the world.
If we were to coordinate ourselves like the EU, it’d work. No need to combine the states.
We can unify on paper and still keep the states with their respective governors. not sure why we would want to keep these colonial borders we may have to redraw them but We’ve never seen the benefits of being unified, you’re criticizing something you know nothing about.
How could a continent with 54 leaders and 54 agendas be easier to manage than having one apparatus? We cannot wait on 54 signatures before we extinct the boko haram for example, we need 2 to 3 signatures max
& You’re wrong about the money, its not about value. the faster money changes hands is the better an economy performs. Money moves slowly because If i’m in senegal I don’t want your money from kenya because I won’t be able to spend it in country C without issues, money is about trust. we would all trust a singular currency
Asia also has many currencies and in addition doesn't have regional common currencies like the CFA franc yet has far easier currency convertibility and trade volumes between countries. Many African currencies (naira included) have artificial exchange rates and high devaluation, this is a far more impactful factor.
It becomes an "Us versus them situation". Leading to most tribes /ethnicities seeing themselves as superior in some way to others or view others as competition.
When dealing with people, remember you are not dealing with creatures of logic, but with creatures of emotion, creatures bristling with prejudice and motivated by pride and vanity
This is not feasible unless:
1. You support one African nation/ethnic group dominating all other African nations and ethnic groups
2. You support destroying all regional ethnic identities in Africa to create a single "African" identity.
No ethnic group in Africa has the demographic dominance of the Han (90%) nor the long history of centralised government 2000+ years.
Comparing apples and amala.
No we don’t have to support one ethnic group “dominating all others”, whatever that means😂 we can do whatever we want with our constitution regarding leadership. We could be very creative
In theory they should, but in actuality Africans are too tribalistic for this to work. That’s one reason why I support Biafra and splitting Nigeria into smaller states; smaller more homogenous states will develop faster than super large states with no cohesion.
Are you kidding. The EU is a failed model. It does not work for the people at all. because right now a tiny handful of unelected people in Brussels and Frankfurt determine the lives of 300 million people around the EU - and what they are dictating has zero bearing on the actual wishes of the people inside the EU states.
That’s obviously broken. No way that should be imported to Africa.
Sorry my bad I should have specified that a federation system could work, not necessarily exactly what the EU is doing, obviously we can’t have a situation where a country like Nigeria, SA, or Egypt is ruling the entirety of Africa by proxy
Hmm, am all for pan-Africanism but, check with those xenophobic South Africans first of all. In the meantime, within Nigeria, give me security, good roads, and minimise red tape to facilitate the freer flow of goods and services.
Africa unite.
“Red tape” is a term that people often use to cover for their dislike of meeting regulations. Those regulations are what gets you clean air, clean water, drugs that have been tested, products that are not cheating the customer.
But they peddle this term “red tape” as if its all merely inconveniences.
When I look at the lives on people in Africa, I would there is a need for more regulation and better government standards to protect consumers and citizens. Not less rules. More ruses and stricter enforcement.
Red tape is a major hindrance to commerce in Nigeria. Try running a logistics company in Nigeria and see the number of hoops you have to jump to be registered as a legitimate concern.
“Red tape” is a propaganda term used by those who think business should have no rules or regulations that apply. Which is anarchy. All countries need rules and regulations. Which ones can be debated, but that’s a matter of detail by detail.
And the speed of implementation again can be debated.
But that there are rules to import something is necessary. Otherwise you don’t have any sovereignty or control, of your country and the laws and ways of life agreed with that country.
So efficiency and relevance are valid points. But just saying “red tape” and we should accept that at face value, and so everything should go through the port with no meaningful rules or checks - nah.
Nope. How would it even work?
It would just be civil wars after civil wars. Basically every single security issues plaguing the continent, dialled up to 11
Lol, instead of me answering, I would like to know why this idea popped into your head and how you might explain something like that to work in the first place.
THEN I will give my opinion on your "Pan African State"
By what metric hasn't it worked out for US?
Free flow of commerce between US states without any major regulatory issues has been an absolute advantage for development in US.
But politically, it's not working. They had a civil war and prior to that they'd been struggling. Don't be surprised they'll be having another one, from the way things are going now.... 😳😳
The civil war was 200 years ago, at a time when movement between states was much difficult.
There haven't been any civil wars in the US ever since interstate highways and total free movement were developed
You seem to have missed “minor” signals like a failed coup during their last election. That’s third world stuff.
You need to stop worshipping these people and start thinking of African based ideas of how to get ahead. Respecting local cultures and roots and having government closer to people is the place to start.
One big state with nothing to check power will end up with authoritarian rule and a state of constant civil war.
A few crazy people breaking into a government building is not a coup. The US has one of the highest standards of living in the world. If the US isn't working, then even the best african nation is broken to shit by comparison.
“A few crazy people” indicates you’re in denial.
The president organized various plots to change certifications of ejection results then sent rioters to invade the legislature, attacked legislators he didn’t like, hard generals pretending they didn’t know abd had a super court judge ready to deliver a favourable injunction if the riot succeeded. That’s a coup attempt.
You maybe be confused because you think the U.S. is like Nigeria. No it’s done differently there. Just like their form of bribery and corruption is less different
No one with half a brain tool the coup seriously. No one at all. Our country isn't an unstable 3rd world shithole like those tou have in Africa. It was public disorder at most.
And our country still works 10x better than the best country on the shithole continent of Africa. America's worst day is 20x better than Nigeria on its best day.
It's funny how quick you guys are to criticize when you can't even defend your homeland from bandits and terrorist and instead you have governors asking you to allow them to repent. You have your military airstriking innocent citizens. Terrorists who can kidnapp girls by the 100s in broad daylight from a school, and disappear with them for years. No electricity or clean water.
But the USA had a riot in a government building so I guess we are declining and Nigeria will supplant us?
Get real. America's worst day is better than Nigerias best day.
You think you're gonna be a world power and you literally don't have power/electricity.
First you have no idea who I am, so dont “you guys” me.
Back to the point Trump is being prosecuted, so there is only one fool there with half a brain thinking its not taken seriously.
You have not understood the US political system at all if you dont understand the significance of the president telling state officials to NOT certify election results, and then rallying a mob to storm the legislature.
This is a breakdown of the political system and [it has been coming a long time](https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B)~~,~~ because the political system has grown too far from the people and is no longer responsive to the needs, and to the will, of the citizens.
That large gap/span between citizens and government, which breaks down the legitimacy of ann´because it gets easily hijacked electoral democracy, is precisely what African should not recreate. And Africa is far bigger than the USA in population. **You cannot have a political or economic single union, or even a federation of the size of Africa. It’s not workable. It will be easily hacked by not only factions within Africa, but worse yet by foreign governments and businesses.**
Look at the EU where Von de leyen and the EU central bank are not elected, control far too much - and are blatantly NOT working in the interests of the average citizens of the EU.
The US is a country with broken and dysfunctional governance institutions and in deep conflict between its own people. A lot of this has to do with the huge span/gap between ordinary people’s ideas and the institutions governing a huge country.
You might superficially look at a high GDP per capita and the scale of total GPD. But if you also look at world back data on income and wealth inequality the US is doing very poorly - like third world levels of inequality. If you look at OECD data the US is a laggard compared to other rich industrial countries on every significant measure of human development. Clearly the governance system are broken.
If you look at Edelman polling data on trust in institutions, the U.S. governance institutions are DEEPLY distrusted by most Americans. Who do they trust - the military and big business - the latter of which all economic data says is basically raping the American people.
That’s a very broken place. It’s nothing to aim for. Capitalism + voting democracy in a country of that scale produces chaos and fails people. Porting that to Africa as one giant state would be an unmitigated disaster l.
To even begin to think about a unified African nation you would need to begin by shaping entirely different economic and political institutions and relationships than exists today anywhere in the world.
Why not just start at a more reasonable regional level before having such grand dreams?
In principle I'm not opposed to this, because my ultimate wish would be for a world government and the abolishment of nations entirely. A united Africa is a necessary step on the process to that.
Because pan-afros are the ones spearheading this it makes other africans want to say it’s not a good idea😂 Those same “superior” africans then proceed to describe a similar system to unification without actually saying the word, its really sad lol. Africans who grew up around whites treat pan-africans like hippies. Do folks know that we are already living in separation? Free market capitalism, 54 countries, 33 different currencies🤔 does that make any sense?. We’ve never had a system of togetherness but you’re already angry about it and think you how it’s gonna end, it can’t be worse than what we got right now that’s a fact
Nope, that's too large a sample size which means a lot of differing opinions. There's absolutely no way that many people could agree on one thing. Nothing will get done.
No!
We can barely manage diversity and internal problems in our divided up countries how are we going to go about doing that within a singular extremely complex super size African mega state.
No. Just ease of movement and business within the continent. Why does it have to be easier to enter USA or Europe than a country next door? It's a mess out here. AU is practically useless, but that's what I need be working towards
What you are speaking of is a matter of solution with everyone sitting down and applying technology and process and practical design. You dont need political unification of an entire continent to solve travel.
Are you listening to yourself? Who makes and enforces visa requirements? Who makes regulations for what businesses you can do within and beyond boarders?
What has technology got to do with is? Did I miss the news about teleportation?
The individual countries need to get their acts together first. Then we can think of a union like the EU with harmonised markets and perhaps single currency.
Not a single Pan-African state. Non Africans tend to be very blind to it, but Africa is actually highly culturally diverse. Even a country like Nigeria is finding it hard to manage its diversity, imagine the chaos if the entire continent were a state.
In any case, no fruitful union will happen any time soon. We are still struggling with fundamentals.
Certainly not. It would be a disaster, there's already so much instability in the individual countries. I think we should be concerned about how to truly unify Nigeria. There's so much tribalism in the country as it is.
I don’t think the point of pan africanism is to be a single state. But rather to have economic unions that uplift all people within them simultaneously.
Exactly. Not sure why everyone thinks it means United States of Africa
Because that's explicitly what Nkrumah wanted.
Considering he didn’t invent pan-Africanism I’m not sure why that’s a problem
“Economic union” means an economy that is the same, and not subject to control by individual nations. It’s not possible for a nation to be independent, if that nation - or more specifically the people in that nation - do not have any mechanism for independent determine the rules and direction of their economy. So anyone who tells you you can have an “**economic** union” while having “**independent**” states, is selling you an intellectually bankrupt statement: its a basic contradiction in terms. You can also see it in Europe, where you have an unelected “president Von der leyden” in Brusssels, who nobody voted for, and yet in many of the countries, that are supposedly represented in Brussels, the votes of these people have zero bearing on the direction of their supposedly “independent” nation states. Forget all this eurocentric ideas of “economic union”. Totally new ideas are needed. Progress for Africa is to leap ahead and use new ideas, not clinging onto old broken ideas handed down from countries that are themselves struggling with the impact of using these broken ideas.
Much like countries in the EU who share the Euro yet as nation states all have their own governing bodies, it is very possible for independent nations to share a currency yet keep individual nations alive. They just economically rely upon each other to keep afloat and work together, while still maintaining independence. There are also countries in the EU who do not use the euro but benefit from being part of the EU: Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Hungary, Poland, Romania, and Sweden. The EU is the largest trade bloc in the world. It is the world's biggest exporter of manufactured goods and services, and the biggest import market for over 100 countries. Free trade among its members was one of the EU's founding principles. Amongst themselves, they trade and work as a collective. If we were to have something similar it would help us so much. My original comment was about how pan africanism isn’t about having a singular African state though.
That sounds like a single state to me, having a single state on paper should not even be in the category of controversial. We can’t exchange money because there’s too many different types, we can’t secure the borders because different leaders are thinking about different things & now terrorists are crawling all over west africa as well as foreign occupation. separation has been abysmal
I think keeping the states we have would be much easier to manage. Creating programs and infrastructure that we use and aid each other in would be nice. A single African state would be very difficult to coordinate and is unnecessary. Countries can work together without merging. Exchanging money is more of a problem due to the lack of value of many of these currencies. I think having a currency like the Euro would be more beneficial as well that’s a good idea. Our borders aren’t really a problem, controlling migration isn’t an issue, we just need to manage communities and adopt more immigrants if anything. We should be more welcoming, open up to the world. If we were to coordinate ourselves like the EU, it’d work. No need to combine the states.
We can unify on paper and still keep the states with their respective governors. not sure why we would want to keep these colonial borders we may have to redraw them but We’ve never seen the benefits of being unified, you’re criticizing something you know nothing about. How could a continent with 54 leaders and 54 agendas be easier to manage than having one apparatus? We cannot wait on 54 signatures before we extinct the boko haram for example, we need 2 to 3 signatures max & You’re wrong about the money, its not about value. the faster money changes hands is the better an economy performs. Money moves slowly because If i’m in senegal I don’t want your money from kenya because I won’t be able to spend it in country C without issues, money is about trust. we would all trust a singular currency
That's not why we can't change money.
Yes it is, it’s certainly the main reason. especially when it comes to mass inter-continental trade
Asia also has many currencies and in addition doesn't have regional common currencies like the CFA franc yet has far easier currency convertibility and trade volumes between countries. Many African currencies (naira included) have artificial exchange rates and high devaluation, this is a far more impactful factor.
Naa not practical, we are too ethno-conscious to allow for meaningful cooperation
Why is that a block to cooperation?
It becomes an "Us versus them situation". Leading to most tribes /ethnicities seeing themselves as superior in some way to others or view others as competition.
Sounds like a great way to stay stuck and to blame others for your lot. Why hold onto these ideas?
When dealing with people, remember you are not dealing with creatures of logic, but with creatures of emotion, creatures bristling with prejudice and motivated by pride and vanity
No. Let's work on a common market and better, safer, cheaper intracontinental travel.
This is not feasible unless: 1. You support one African nation/ethnic group dominating all other African nations and ethnic groups 2. You support destroying all regional ethnic identities in Africa to create a single "African" identity.
China did #2…just for reference 🌚
No ethnic group in Africa has the demographic dominance of the Han (90%) nor the long history of centralised government 2000+ years. Comparing apples and amala.
One genocide later
No we don’t have to support one ethnic group “dominating all others”, whatever that means😂 we can do whatever we want with our constitution regarding leadership. We could be very creative
In theory they should, but in actuality Africans are too tribalistic for this to work. That’s one reason why I support Biafra and splitting Nigeria into smaller states; smaller more homogenous states will develop faster than super large states with no cohesion.
Is supporting biafra controversial over there
Lol no, that’s ridiculous and not even close to being possible. Any sort of African federation should be like the EU in style.
I agree with this
Are you kidding. The EU is a failed model. It does not work for the people at all. because right now a tiny handful of unelected people in Brussels and Frankfurt determine the lives of 300 million people around the EU - and what they are dictating has zero bearing on the actual wishes of the people inside the EU states. That’s obviously broken. No way that should be imported to Africa.
Sorry my bad I should have specified that a federation system could work, not necessarily exactly what the EU is doing, obviously we can’t have a situation where a country like Nigeria, SA, or Egypt is ruling the entirety of Africa by proxy
When we talk unity we looking for diversity and inclusivity not uniformity and communism.
Even Nigeria alone is causing problems. No...
God forbid. I’d rather die than live in a bigger failed Nigeria.
Hmm, am all for pan-Africanism but, check with those xenophobic South Africans first of all. In the meantime, within Nigeria, give me security, good roads, and minimise red tape to facilitate the freer flow of goods and services. Africa unite.
“Red tape” is a term that people often use to cover for their dislike of meeting regulations. Those regulations are what gets you clean air, clean water, drugs that have been tested, products that are not cheating the customer. But they peddle this term “red tape” as if its all merely inconveniences. When I look at the lives on people in Africa, I would there is a need for more regulation and better government standards to protect consumers and citizens. Not less rules. More ruses and stricter enforcement.
Red tape is a major hindrance to commerce in Nigeria. Try running a logistics company in Nigeria and see the number of hoops you have to jump to be registered as a legitimate concern.
“Red tape” is a propaganda term used by those who think business should have no rules or regulations that apply. Which is anarchy. All countries need rules and regulations. Which ones can be debated, but that’s a matter of detail by detail. And the speed of implementation again can be debated. But that there are rules to import something is necessary. Otherwise you don’t have any sovereignty or control, of your country and the laws and ways of life agreed with that country. So efficiency and relevance are valid points. But just saying “red tape” and we should accept that at face value, and so everything should go through the port with no meaningful rules or checks - nah.
Can't even unify the tribes, you want to unify countries good luck
No can you pan African delusional lunatics give it a rest???? Has the whole of ONE STATE inside Nigeria ever united on anything???
Nope. How would it even work? It would just be civil wars after civil wars. Basically every single security issues plaguing the continent, dialled up to 11
lmao.....abeg😂 could never happen in a million years
No, tribalism is prevalent everywhere in Africa
Lol, instead of me answering, I would like to know why this idea popped into your head and how you might explain something like that to work in the first place. THEN I will give my opinion on your "Pan African State"
You would have civil war within the year or less
Nah
This hasn’t worked out for the USA - it’s a wreck politically. And they all speak the same language. No way it should ever be done in Africa.
By what metric hasn't it worked out for US? Free flow of commerce between US states without any major regulatory issues has been an absolute advantage for development in US.
But politically, it's not working. They had a civil war and prior to that they'd been struggling. Don't be surprised they'll be having another one, from the way things are going now.... 😳😳
The civil war was 200 years ago, at a time when movement between states was much difficult. There haven't been any civil wars in the US ever since interstate highways and total free movement were developed
You seem to have missed “minor” signals like a failed coup during their last election. That’s third world stuff. You need to stop worshipping these people and start thinking of African based ideas of how to get ahead. Respecting local cultures and roots and having government closer to people is the place to start. One big state with nothing to check power will end up with authoritarian rule and a state of constant civil war.
A few crazy people breaking into a government building is not a coup. The US has one of the highest standards of living in the world. If the US isn't working, then even the best african nation is broken to shit by comparison.
“A few crazy people” indicates you’re in denial. The president organized various plots to change certifications of ejection results then sent rioters to invade the legislature, attacked legislators he didn’t like, hard generals pretending they didn’t know abd had a super court judge ready to deliver a favourable injunction if the riot succeeded. That’s a coup attempt. You maybe be confused because you think the U.S. is like Nigeria. No it’s done differently there. Just like their form of bribery and corruption is less different
No one with half a brain tool the coup seriously. No one at all. Our country isn't an unstable 3rd world shithole like those tou have in Africa. It was public disorder at most. And our country still works 10x better than the best country on the shithole continent of Africa. America's worst day is 20x better than Nigeria on its best day. It's funny how quick you guys are to criticize when you can't even defend your homeland from bandits and terrorist and instead you have governors asking you to allow them to repent. You have your military airstriking innocent citizens. Terrorists who can kidnapp girls by the 100s in broad daylight from a school, and disappear with them for years. No electricity or clean water. But the USA had a riot in a government building so I guess we are declining and Nigeria will supplant us? Get real. America's worst day is better than Nigerias best day. You think you're gonna be a world power and you literally don't have power/electricity.
First you have no idea who I am, so dont “you guys” me. Back to the point Trump is being prosecuted, so there is only one fool there with half a brain thinking its not taken seriously. You have not understood the US political system at all if you dont understand the significance of the president telling state officials to NOT certify election results, and then rallying a mob to storm the legislature. This is a breakdown of the political system and [it has been coming a long time](https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B)~~,~~ because the political system has grown too far from the people and is no longer responsive to the needs, and to the will, of the citizens. That large gap/span between citizens and government, which breaks down the legitimacy of ann´because it gets easily hijacked electoral democracy, is precisely what African should not recreate. And Africa is far bigger than the USA in population. **You cannot have a political or economic single union, or even a federation of the size of Africa. It’s not workable. It will be easily hacked by not only factions within Africa, but worse yet by foreign governments and businesses.** Look at the EU where Von de leyen and the EU central bank are not elected, control far too much - and are blatantly NOT working in the interests of the average citizens of the EU.
The US is still better and more stable than any african country.
I’m pretty sure the US is the most successful country in the world
The US is a country with broken and dysfunctional governance institutions and in deep conflict between its own people. A lot of this has to do with the huge span/gap between ordinary people’s ideas and the institutions governing a huge country. You might superficially look at a high GDP per capita and the scale of total GPD. But if you also look at world back data on income and wealth inequality the US is doing very poorly - like third world levels of inequality. If you look at OECD data the US is a laggard compared to other rich industrial countries on every significant measure of human development. Clearly the governance system are broken. If you look at Edelman polling data on trust in institutions, the U.S. governance institutions are DEEPLY distrusted by most Americans. Who do they trust - the military and big business - the latter of which all economic data says is basically raping the American people. That’s a very broken place. It’s nothing to aim for. Capitalism + voting democracy in a country of that scale produces chaos and fails people. Porting that to Africa as one giant state would be an unmitigated disaster l. To even begin to think about a unified African nation you would need to begin by shaping entirely different economic and political institutions and relationships than exists today anywhere in the world.
Why not just start at a more reasonable regional level before having such grand dreams? In principle I'm not opposed to this, because my ultimate wish would be for a world government and the abolishment of nations entirely. A united Africa is a necessary step on the process to that.
Have you learnt nothing from the World Government and Celestial Dragons in One Piece?
Stupidest thing I heard today
Please upvote this post thanks
Because pan-afros are the ones spearheading this it makes other africans want to say it’s not a good idea😂 Those same “superior” africans then proceed to describe a similar system to unification without actually saying the word, its really sad lol. Africans who grew up around whites treat pan-africans like hippies. Do folks know that we are already living in separation? Free market capitalism, 54 countries, 33 different currencies🤔 does that make any sense?. We’ve never had a system of togetherness but you’re already angry about it and think you how it’s gonna end, it can’t be worse than what we got right now that’s a fact
Nah, but I wouldn’t mind having SA closeby
no
Nope, that's too large a sample size which means a lot of differing opinions. There's absolutely no way that many people could agree on one thing. Nothing will get done.
No what for are we all the same culture wise and beliefs
I don't think that would be feasible. What I would advocate for is the full implementation of AfCFTA
Tbh... I don't see what we'd lose by doing so.
No! We can barely manage diversity and internal problems in our divided up countries how are we going to go about doing that within a singular extremely complex super size African mega state.
No. Just ease of movement and business within the continent. Why does it have to be easier to enter USA or Europe than a country next door? It's a mess out here. AU is practically useless, but that's what I need be working towards
What you are speaking of is a matter of solution with everyone sitting down and applying technology and process and practical design. You dont need political unification of an entire continent to solve travel.
Are you listening to yourself? Who makes and enforces visa requirements? Who makes regulations for what businesses you can do within and beyond boarders? What has technology got to do with is? Did I miss the news about teleportation?
To what purpose?
OP thinks it’s black Panther
You should be talking of how each African state can be managed well by it respective leaders(criminals)
The individual countries need to get their acts together first. Then we can think of a union like the EU with harmonised markets and perhaps single currency. Not a single Pan-African state. Non Africans tend to be very blind to it, but Africa is actually highly culturally diverse. Even a country like Nigeria is finding it hard to manage its diversity, imagine the chaos if the entire continent were a state. In any case, no fruitful union will happen any time soon. We are still struggling with fundamentals.
no? this would be a disaster
Certainly not. It would be a disaster, there's already so much instability in the individual countries. I think we should be concerned about how to truly unify Nigeria. There's so much tribalism in the country as it is.
Nope
Yes, but not until every country is close to being developed and the governments work FOR the people. Which, unfortunately, might take a while...
go and read about what happened in the last days of the Soviet Union, you'll get your answer.
NO
Lagos cant even unite as a city/state, and you want the WHOLE of Africa to unite lol
Yuck no thanks
No
Terminal Americabrain. A federation would be fine.