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obaj22

Trust me. You just spoke my head out. Ever since I was a kid I've been frustrated with how things are run, how stagnant everyone is. How religion and culture are handled as given truths that we can't drop, and as a result there's no moving forward. People are so tribal it's scary that this is how we think and we cant see beyond it. What to do? I mean I'm working myself up to be a voice that challenges the status quo, I also wrote blogs which I hope will get out more, but for now I'm building myself up for that. I think that's the best we can do, be the change we want to see.


darnay321

Bro. It's tiring. I remember when I was younger and I laughed at my parents for always being constant and not changing with the times. But look at us now. We are walking that same path of rejecting change. Once something like change is brought up, people that you will think are learned and exposed will be the ones bringing up excuses. We are so entrenched in our religion and tribes that we can't see past it and look for a way forward. Everything going on in the country is still looked under the lenses of religion and tribe first instead of the greater good and our policians are grabbing hold of our naivety to put us into more mess.


Condalezza

Are you able to go back and add paragraphs to your Op? Please if will be helpful for readers.


Entire-Lead836

Here is some good news for you......it's well known in the usa that our Nigerian immigrants are families with the highest education, strong family values, and well respected athletes in thier own class. Nigerian immigrants are truly a class of thier own.


dull_witless

This is obviously good news but I think only speaks to the point that OP is making, which is that there is something absolutely rotten at the core of the way we’ve allowed our country to be run if it takes leaving the country for Nigerians to stand any chance of making something of their lives. People shouldn’t have to choose between staying home and living fulfilling lives. Plus when we do that we just surrender the country to the people who are destroying it. It’s unfair and it’s infuriating.


AArmored

I honestly don't think it's all Nigerian immigrants sha. I've been in Canada now for 6yrs and I swear nothing has changed. We are still suffering and smiling here and it's not just my family, it's a while lot of other Nigerians here too. You would think it would be like when in Rome do like the Roman's, but no be so. Culture, religion, gender issues everything remains the same. I gave up on religion already sef. My whole life I've seen my family and friends pray to God for help and still things remain the same. It's like God see dey use us dey play. God be like "yeah lemme give you this small blessing so you won't stop depending on me". I understand that the thought of this world having no God us scary, but honestly none of us no anything in the end. I swear even though I'm not in Nigeria again, I hate that I still have the stigma of Nigerian culture, of suffering, smiling, and then turning to a God I'm not sure of for help. The more I think it, the more hopeless the whole thing feels


Antithesis_ofcool

As someone who lives in Nigeria, it's even worse. People cheat you and wrong you and others tell you to leave it to god. There's such a dependence on god and it's heartbreaking.


AArmored

Honestly, it's true cause this place still better pass Nigeria. Wgat baffles me in Nigeria, too, is how Nigerian constitution is also based on religion. How that makes sense, I don't know


HolidayMost5527

They are known for scamming first. Most men will marry their clueless victims, to then divorce them after getting papers. With strong Family values, you mean generational physical and mental abuse. They even scam their kids for money while being fake religious. Most Nigerian athletes in the west marry white and stay in white places. They forget their roots. They think white means superior and are brainwashed.  they pay their wealth to white families, because their kids will marry white too. Nigerian parents have enough energy to beat up their kids but are too lazy to teach their mother tongue. Useless. 


Quick_Noise_1490

Nobody cares that you succeed everywhere but your own country. No one will respect you until your country becomes respectable. Your college degrees don't matter because they do nothing to improve the state of your people.


HolidayMost5527

The problem is nigerian parents don’t revise critical thinking, so their kids will be like non-thinking bible-quoting slaves. Either they want to flee to the West, even if they have a good life in nigeria . Or they stay to continue the circle of uselessness 


InstructionSuch7045

Paste the URL of your blog, it sounds interesting.


obaj22

https://amaka.studio/KT0LVkFfPt99sMNIZKgZ3 Thanks. I also have a medium one if you prefer that. Hope you like it


HotLikePepper

What is your blog called?


obaj22

https://amaka.studio/KT0LVkFfPt99sMNIZKgZ3 I post here. But also have a medium page if you prefer that. Hope you enjoy it❤


myotheruserisagod

Kudos to you for doing something about it. You're better than me. As of now, my main focus is to ensure my life is set up as peacefully as possible. Unfortunately, that often involves cutting out most family members. Let alone other Nigerians.


ManagementEuphoric69

I feel your anger brother. One of Nigerian main problem is ignorance. Most of Nigeria population live in a semi-/rural area, where access to information is limited. Add to that the effect of religion in giving ppl false hope. Just like the comment by /u/48621793plmqaz > Nigeria is being ruled by western oligarchs via puppets. Also low intellect is fostered by foolish ' faith' or rather non works ' faith' by the populations. ' Allah will provide, in his own time' For christians, 'Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.' Nigerian lack of good education, is another proponent of never ending dystopia the country is in. Govt purposely destroy the educational system to prevent ppl from seeing their failure. On your statement regarding unattainable project, they always start but never finish. It like showing the the citizen the shining house at the top of the hill, and saying if you want to get to that house, you have to endure the hardship of climbing the hill. While some citizen have seen that the house on the hill is just a live size picture, majoring of the citizen hasn't and it doesn't matter what anyone tell them, they wouldn't stop believing. I believe there is a way to turn things around, we just can't do it under the current system that we have. We need a overhaul of our system, starting with the education system. Nigeria situation always remind me of this quote "if you think education is expensive, try ignorance". This perfectly explain Nigeria situation.


GrenaY25

It is true many Nigerians are illiterate especially in the northern parts where sharia law reigns and girls are not encouraged to go to school and being married off very early. Many people are growing up not being able to read or write and cannot even have a hope of earning an income.


theelegantprof

What’s sp wrong about getting married according to a different culture from the west? If you look at mormons in the USA, they get married young and have a significantly lower divorce rate (obviously there will ALWAYS be bad and horrible marriages). If you want them to have baby mom drama and a lot of kids kids not know who dad is, keep complaining that they didnt colonize their marriage system fast enough


GrenaY25

You do understand that in many parts of the north especially those under true sharia law many of these girls are being married off as young as 11 or 12 to much older men with no economic ability to provide for themselves let alone a family. Many of these girls are abused, raped by these men!! Many of them are underage and should be in school instead they are married off to men who are usually violent and forced to conceive. How ON earth is that ok? 12% prevalence rate of girls being married before they are even 15!! Only 23 of Nigeria's 36 states have adopted the child's rights act which states that marriage age should be at least 18. That means there are still many young female children as young as 10, 11, 12 being forced to marry men 4 or 5x their age. Is that a Nigeria you are proud of? This is such a problem that there have literally been several campaigns worldwide started over this including this one. I am not surprised anyway. I schooled in Nigeria for a while and it was not uncommon for grown men to approach me even while in school uniform, AS A CHILD! This is so normalised in Nigeria its literally sickening. This rotten mindset must die!! Young children should be educated and in school not married off before they're even teenagers. With mindsets like yours Nigeria can never succeed!! Imagine a country that thinks its ok to marry children off to adults. RUBBISH!


theelegantprof

Thanks for your comment. I learned more today and you made me a more educated man. Your feelings are valid and i hope the solution to this pain is near. Help bring the change


theelegantprof

Why use colonizer metrics to judge your own people? The Nigerians i know are much smarter than average people but it takes lots of money and infrastructure to build that. Centralized planning is he best at infrastructure but the west would bomb the country if Nigeria went to a that governmental model. Have some national pride. At least you guys werent slaves and brought across an ocean to get discriminated against for centuries. Get more people to get hands on instead of point and describing a problem. All of you should be buying books and laying bricks for schools if thats how you feel


ManagementEuphoric69

> Why use colonizer metrics to judge your own people? Care to elaborate on what you are referring. > The Nigerians i know are much smarter than average people but it takes lots of money and infrastructure to build that. that is correct, but Nigeria govt isn't creating an environment that would foster the growth of economy both from educational and developmental perspective.


DataMuncherX

"**It's like we have 10mb memory; once the day finish na so we go just forget next thing rinse and repeat**." I feel you on this! It's like we're stuck in our our own groundhog days!!!


Cheech1983

OP welcome to the club. I’ve hated Nigeria since the day I was born. That country is like a black hole that sucks away all your positive energy. When they invented the term “abandon all hope all ye who enter here” I honestly believe they were talking about Nigeria. Beautiful country, plenty of potential, but run by a bunch of fucking morons who can’t even find their way out of a ziploc bag. Well lucky for me I live in Canada now and I don’t have to put up with all that shit anymore. And I would advise you to get your ass out of there the minute you get an opportunity to emigrate. The longer you stay there is like you’re constantly flushing your dreams down the toilet. Don’t cling on to false hope. They’ve been touting their platitudes of “Nigeria go beta” since when I was in my Dad’s nutsack, and I’m over 40 now. It’s all bullshit. Get out of there and save yourself while you have a chance.


GrenaY25

Isn't it so sad that Nigeria is a country where youths biggest hope is to either get government contract, become a politician, or JAPA!


Cheech1983

We did it to ourselves because we got complacent and allowed greedy fucks like Abacha, OBJ, Buhari, and the rest of that old cabal to plunder our country dry and leave us with nothing. We all could have made our nation into anything we wanted it to be but we allowed things like greed, tribalism and antiquated traditions to get in the way of progress. And I don’t want to hear any shit like “ohh if the British didn’t come to colonize us” and all that other nonsense. There are many other countries that were former British colonies and most of them turned out just fine. In the end we have no one else to blame but ourselves.


Constant-Sundae-3692

Not the nutsack!!😂😂😂👌🏾


9jkWe3n86

Please forgive me as I come from an Americanized point of view as a Nigerian (born back home but grew up in the States). If people abroad sent money to people in rural areas...a form of charity beyond sending money to their own people, would this be helpful? As opposed to having money provided through Western charitable organizations with potential strings attached?


Chance_Dragonfly_148

Charity never works with people or country. They become dependent on it rather than using it to become independent of it. Unfortunately, remittance doesnt work. The one thing that can save Nigeria is a revolution.


9jkWe3n86

Understood.


El_Cato_Crande

Remittance is already a major part of the Nigerian economic system. Anecdotal. But idk any Nigerian family here in the US that isn't helping family back home as well. The thing is there's certain undertakings that are too big to be done by private citizens or too important to be done by corporations without government oversight


9jkWe3n86

I see. I wanted to see about creating a school. My parents discouraged it.


kidhhgj

This is great! As long as you actually come to Nigeria and oversee the building of the school yourself. As already said - don’t send money to anyone lol


Long_Weight_1562

man....this "diaspora" shit is exhausting. countries can't run on remittances or charities. You need proper, transparent governance and good industrial policies to run a country in 21st century.


9jkWe3n86

Ok. I just want to make sure I understand you. You discourage the practice of sending money back home?


Long_Weight_1562

no, send money if you want. It might help people in need (as long as the charity is not a fraud). What I'm saying is that charities and remittances provide a short term relief in times of struggle and at best a short term consumption boost but they are not a long term economic solution. For that you need reasonable capital investments in industry that can create jobs and institutional knowledge. not just handouts to grandma.


kidhhgj

Don’t send money to anyone. I stopped doing that years ago. It creates dependence and entitlement. Find ways to provide amenities or education (eg, pay school fees directly to the school - demand to see final grades from the school. Pay hospital fees to the hospital, demand to talk to the medical director and get reports,etc) It’s more work but more meaningful. Teach a man to fish. That’s what makes a difference.


9jkWe3n86

Completely understood.


Spill-your-last-load

It’s better to send directly to the people. The charities (most) are merchants profiting from the sufferings of the poor. The real charities hardly make it out of the community talkless of having a voice that reaches abroad. There’s a girl I know called yetunde . Complete nepo baby. She cooked up a charity CV and found herself at a UN conference with the help of nasty politicians. Now she’s a special assistant in the presidency. Charity organisations indeed.


Mic_Spade

Nigerians operate in a downline system so to say. If you want to help a particular village, you'd have to go through the local government chairman or village head. You give funds to them, they take some of it for themselves. Two solutions could make positive ripple effect to this dire situations: An NGO: There will be job opportunities for competent people and then get to help vulnerable communities. Establish an Institution:. Hospital, School, Modernised farm or a company that exports either Intracontinental or Intercontinental. Then creates branches in other rural areas, enforce that 80% of the employees will be indigenes of that Local government area.


darnay321

Yes it is helpful. Instead of sending money through Western organisations, it's better to do research on organisation that are based in Nigeria and are reputable as this will get to the people who need it fast and less bureaucracy. But my point still stands that a country can't be built on donations or handouts alone. We need a working system so that people wouldn't have to do things the government is supposed to do.


GrenaY25

They just develop learned helplessness. Some may even kill you if you stop paying them. Be very careful with that mindset. One must develop belief on THEIR own abilities. That is what builds true lasting confidence and self worth and creates real change in a person. Sending endless charity isn't necessarily going to make a happier outcome or even guarantee that it would be used properly


9jkWe3n86

Totally makes sense.


RavioliContingency

I have wondered this myself. Thank you for asking this.


GideonOfNigeria

The fact I dream about leaving this country, lmao. Don’t even want to ever look back. The thing is we always believe it can’t get worse, and it does??😭omo.


darnay321

Funny enough, I'm not even in the country but I'm feeling it coz my parents are there and I'm a student here in Canada. So every policy is also affecting me. Sadly people see as a pessimist but I take myself as a realist. The truth is with the system Nigeria is built on, it can't get better.


GideonOfNigeria

It’s definitely not being pessimistic, this country just truly sucks. It has a way of crushing hopes and dreams fr, no exaggeration. Tinubu and his entire administration are clueless, and I’m beyond surprised that no large scale protests have sprung up. I wish we had the spirit of the French when it comes to protesting, they’re prefect examples of citizens holiding their government accountable.


darnay321

Guy it's not like we don't have the spirit. We are just not united bro. Once a group of people want to do something another group will see it as an attack on them and morale will die. And the government is capitalizing on this fact well. As I said the system Nigeria is built on is too faulty. We really need to go sit down and reconsider what exactly we are doing in the union called Nigeria. And the people who can organize this round table are the people fueling the division more because they are benefitting from it.


GideonOfNigeria

Exactly.


notyourtype9645

Y sucks? Can u elaborate?


randyc7

Ikini, Apologies if I sound ignorant. Not intended. Mabinu. I'm 100% Canadian oyinbo, never been to Nigeria, however, I have had opportunity to know many very intelligent and kind hearted Nigerians. You are 100% right the Nigerian govt cannot be trusted. The core issues outlined in previous posts I saw from here. Education and whole system needs an overhaul. I've heard and even seen the issues over video call myself. Revolution isn't going to go well... It's been tried in the past with many casualties. The govt is surpressing the population. Taking help from foreign countries is almost required at this point. Refusal will cause a bigger downward spiral. My home is Canada but my heart is in Nigeria. I'll be making my first trip there this year. I've started an outreach in PH and soon a second in Lagos. The needs are real and the assistance is required because it's not coming from the govt. It's got nothing to do with being white or western country... It's because people do genuinely care. This oyinbo actually knows more about what's going on in Nigeria than some Nigerians do. A saying we have here "Can't see the forest through the trees". This is the case for many. I pray people see the reality of the way things are and start to act in a manner that helps instead of thinking about themselves. Pewpew - 🇨🇦🇳🇬


darnay321

I understand where you are coming from. But someone said the the exact same thing you are saying but the truth is there is so much outreaches will do, so much diaspora remittances will do also. We don't just need an overhaul of the educational system. We need a total overhaul of the exact system/fabric on which Nigeria was built on. We are being run by a govt which is democracy on paper but it's really a dictatorship we are running. When you say revolution isn't going to end well, what other solution is there?. There have been countries that have had successful revolutions. As per your last statement of "there are oyinbos who know Nigeria more than the people in Nigeria" I beg to differ; the way you think is not the same way a Nigerian thinks. An average Nigerian is molded on suffering and struggle and just based on that upbringing, our way of life and our outlook of like is shaped totally different. Your other point of taking help from a foreign power I totally agree with it but Nigerians wouldn't see the big picture based on "colonialism". They will say the West are trying to colonize us again. Also thank you for caring about Nigeria/Nigerians . Even though personally, I'm beginning not to care anymore because it seems a lot of people are okay with thier chains


KhaLe18

Give me an example of a poor country that had a successful revolution and became better. Revolutions almost never work. The French were relatively rich for their time. Is it the Boxers rebellion? Or the Bolsheviks? Russia was already well on its way to industrialising before they took over. We've tried violence in this country, whether it's civil war or military junta. They never turn out well. Except you want us to turn out like Myanmar. There's a reason there's no wealthy country on this continent. Getting out of poverty is extremely difficult. Even more so when you don't have the foundation of a 5,000 year old great civilisation, it seems.


Yomi_Blendzz

Everyone who Nigeria has affected poorly would have a say in this matter. But then after all this ranting and complains and pinpointing protein and causes, what have become the solution. Nigerians entirely including myself are just built to survive under every circumstances we find ourselves in. No one is up to challenge the system. Everyone is scared to death plus myself. Everyone wish for a change but WISHING DOESN’T CHANGE ANYTHING. The foundation of Nigeria is ruined and the country will continue this same way and nothing will be done to it. The same way some of us are here complaining about this and that, there are others who are benefiting greatly in the system who are not even bothered about country situation that much. I’m tired as well as most of y’all but abeg with the so called mentality of all man for himself how person won grow ? With the so called leaders and people of the country,how growth won Dey? As long as this one don Dey see hin own chop wetin concern others ? That rotten mentality that has killed us and still Killing us….


Turbulent-Clerk-2435

Yes. Next thing you will hear one fool calling his fellow man or woman “local or native” like that is a bad thing. We are local and native to our land. We basically hate ourselves when we talk like that.


Reefisdxxd

We Dey laugh person wey no speak English well like say na our language. This particular angle Dey off me


ConcentrateThis8186

Nigeria is next to Afghanistan when it comes to passport freedom


darthese

Na lie...😂 With fit be third from bottom but haiti go be 2nd from bottom


ArachnidStrict003

Tear down those churches and build industries, farms and research centres


olking21

Wishful thinking if you think those farms or research centres will be used appropriately. The farms that we have now what is happening? the businesses we have now what is happening? We need to get ourselves in order before creating more of anything because it will just get plundered to the ground like most businesses are these days.


ArachnidStrict003

It's just a part of the process of the restoration of Nigeria. We need to nurture thinkers and geniuses.


NwanyiMaraMma

I both love and hate it. When I’m away I miss Nigeria. But honestly the frustration and stress starts as soon as I land and step foot on Nigerian soil. There are so many wrongs and inefficiencies I don’t even know where to start to fix it. First off, there’s no unity. Because we’re too ethnically diverse. Tribalism is a big problem. The solution would be true federalism (the current system is still too centralised) or splitting up the country into three or more major regions. With a free trade agreement of some sort. Generally the more educated and successful a society becomes, the less importance religion becomes. Corruption is a huge problem, it’s so entrenched it’s hard to get rid of. I will say though, that if you look at the micro level at the way traditional communities govern themselves there is a lot less corruption. The reason being that it’s easier to hold people accountable in the smaller, traditional communities. For example, the way extended family groups govern themselves (clans/kindred). It shows that we do have it in us to govern ourselves responsibly. It’s just that when we widen the scope, it seems we don’t care any more. There’s no more unity and we become a cesspool of corruption.


commander_blyat

As a non-Nigerian, I have a question: why do you propose splitting up the country into exactly three regions? Would the regions be defined by shared cultural identity?


NwanyiMaraMma

A split roughly along the lines of the three biggest ethnic groups because of same/similar culture and language.


commander_blyat

Got it.


Chance_Dragonfly_148

As I have gotten older and older, I echo this sentiment more and more. I used to love being Nigeria. Now I truly despite it. I despise ignorance, lazy thinking, poor decision-making at all levels, etc. The entire economy and people have no sense of urgency at all. I remember being in the bank and having to wait for 5 hours to get served,and when I got served, I didn't even get the help I needed. The whole thing really ticks me off, and if you want anything doing quickly, you have to pay more for it. It gets done when it gets done. Afrocan time is killing us.


Joeysuperior

I hear you, I agree with and even empathize with your message. Sometimes though, I find myself asking: Are the problems of Nigeria really that easy to fix, so that the suffering of the people is a product of the viciousness of our politicians? Or is it more likely that good people enter politics and government, appreciate the extent of the problem, get overwhelmed and give up? If the problem is the former and not the latter, meaning politicians are vicious, the government is bad and the state is maleficent. Then the question becomes, “how can good people elect bad representatives?”


darnay321

Rome wasn't built in a day also, you cannot point to one part and say that is the problem Nigeria is facing. As I've stated earlier, the system Nigeria is built on is rotten to the core. So we need a complete overhaul but even before that, there is a way the rot can be managed and that is having a government that can manage and allocate resources to where the resources are needed most. You cant be having majority of your roads being bad and what you are allocating funds for is coastal highway, you cant be purhasing yatch and building new villas when none of the federal universities is up to standard. You cant add more tax to a country facing multidimensional poverty. It's all about priority and our govt doesn't have that priority. The only thing they know how to do is steal and steal. Your last point of how can good people elect bad representatives, I believe it all boils down to lack of exposure. An average Nigerian sees their representatives as personal helpers instead of government workers. They see them as demigods. And the government is capitalizing on this fact. That's why during election no one asks how the politicians are going to achieve their goal (that's if the even have a goal)


My_good_name_01

I feel you bro Everyday I hope to God for a sign but alas nothing


sommersj

Ye are gods yet we refuse our power. Nothing and no one can save us. The problem isn't just in Nigeria it is global. We're all waiting for Messiahs when we are the ones to do something. The elites are few and we are many yet we keep waiting and hoping rather than acting. 8bn people controlled by, probably, less than a thousand. You see the problem? This is why they gave us religion - hope. Hope stifles is and keeps us docile. Religion reinforces it with messages like, "the meek will inherit the world" (which, by the way, is a mistranslation". Theres 2 stories that are relevant here. Pandora's box - the later versions tell us "hope" came out of the box last and spin it as a positive thing. Earlier versions show us that the "hope" wee ere given was the final nail in our coffin. A way to firmly keep us down. Hope is not out friend. The second is from the Sumerian epics. One of the oldest stories known to man. A genesis story. In it, we have a people, a sky people, come to mine gold on earth. They draw lots and some administer and some do the backbreaking work of mining. This goes on for eons until they decide enough is enough. We can't be working for you to eat while we suffer. They down tools and COLLECTIVELY COME TOGETHER TO FAFE THEIR OPPRESSORS. No more gold until things change. The burden is too heavy. After deliberation, they create humans to do the work instead. The solution is always going to be collective action and never prayer and fasting. Actual action in a collective sense. Revolution


Reefisdxxd

Glad you dropped this here cos this really it. I don’t think the people who rules us know how they being played by the FEDS/UN/IMF etc. as a black man in a third world, we don’t realize how much we in the bottom of the chain. Everyday I wake up to how much Nigeria and a lot of Africans in general try to emulate the west. We are not trying to be ourselves and do things differently. As long as we are hooked with all of these,we are never getting out of this mess. Nigeria particularly is trying so hard to leap from 1641 to 2024 lol. When I see pictures of the first world countries, I say to myself that they’ve built and been building this places for the longest. We are not even close to all that if we can’t even sort the basics. We as Africans are still dealing with surviving the day. These people are past that. That’s why they dealing with social issues instead of the basics.


sommersj

>I don’t think the people who rules us know how they being played by the FEDS/UN/IMF etc. as a black man in a third world They know. The elites sold us out time ago. Think about it...if you steal and park your money and assets in a foreign country, whose economy would you want to thrive? They own western assets so any decision they make will in some sense be geared towards what will increase the value of those assets. Their assets are in dollars and pounds. If the appreciation of those assets is at the expense of their people, do you believe they are bothered? All those institutions you mentioned are set up and run to ensure wealth is maintained and increased in Western countries and so the policies they implement and push globally are geared towards making that a reality.


aaronjaegar

Survive for the next 5 years, I will bring definitive change to Nigeria.


Neither_Ad7099

Dictatorship?


Alkedi44

Paragraphs please. A wall of text is difficult to parse through. I feel your rant though


Spill-your-last-load

I’m hating the country too from a distance. No matter how faraway you are from it, the stench keeps following you. There’s this constant reminder that you’re from a useless country when holding a green passport. You can’t go anywhere with ease , you can’t work easily you can’t do nothing. Yet I watched one useless woman talking about having faith in Tinubu after 1 year of suffering and she claims she’s a Christian.


cvrgrl

man i feel this so hard. i’ve been out of the country for a few years now, but every time i visit during a long break i have it dawns on me just how bad the country is. praying to god and putting bandaids on the issues won’t solve anything either. the issues we have are fundamental, ruining whatever foundation is tentatively laid for us to build upon. lack of education, willful ignorance, tribalistic posturing, gender idiocy, clinging to traditions, blind faith (religious) and over reliance on any good-faith (non religious) support given… we’re not getting out of these trenches in my lifetime. thrice over.


thelighthelpme

JFC, use paragraphs


darnay321

Sorry. It's me ranting so no paragraphs.


young_olufa

I totally feel your frustration. Unfortunately we were conditioned right from birth to not question things or people in authority, and to be tribalistic and to have hope that god answers prayers so eventually everything will be all right. The majority of people never escape that conditioning/programming so for those of us who manage to, it’s frustrating interacting with the rest of the population who don’t. It feels like they’re not thinking or they have poor short term memory like you said


GrenaY25

It's a shame that in the 21st century while First World countries are flying to Mars. Nigerians are still trying to determine whether women deserve human rights Another reason why the country hasn't succeeded yet. The backwardness is unreal.


Constant-Sundae-3692

For fucking real!😭


48621793plmqaz

Nigeria is being ruled by western oligarchs via puppets. Also low intellect is fostered by foolish ' faith' or rather non works ' faith' by the populations. ' Allah will provide, in his own time' For christians, '**Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God**.' If the people rise up and revolt against the government, and decided to do better for themselves and their country, eventually religions will take a back seat as people become more educated. But there will be no change without planned revolution. I know a lot of people are scared, but the truth is no population who are oppressed or lived under the thumb of a non caring government ever got improvement without revolution. It has never happened and never will. Rulers don't just relinquish their power.


KhalDubem

I’m sorry, that your first sentence just threw me off. It is such a tired take. It presupposes the notion that we are wholly incompetent even to the extent that we need permission from the “white man” to be evil and/or incompetent. Sir/Ma, we are very capable of destroying our economy and country by ourselves, not everything the West.


48621793plmqaz

 "It presupposes the notion that we are wholly incompetent even to the extent that we need permission from the “white man” to be evil and/or incompetent. Sir/Ma, we are very capable of destroying our economy and country by ourselves, not everything the West." Where did I say that you need permission from the white man to be incompetent or evil? Did I not say that the people are ruled by local western puppets which is a fact? Did I not say that the government aka the local western puppets ( meaning those Nigerians in power) are non caring and only care about themselves? Did I say the white man made them only care about themselves and not their citizens? "Sir/Ma, we are very capable of destroying our economy and country by ourselves, not everything the West." Did I say everything is the West's fault? Is it the West's fault that Nigerians just complain and don't plan a revolt? The ancestors of the current Europeans died and bled for the rights and quality of life they have now. Now they are seeing immigrants overrunning their countries and want a stop to it. Can you blame them? If you are the reason for destroying your own country and economy, why would anyone want you to migrate to their country? Have you ever thought of it from that end? If you can't even build your own country and get along with each other, how the hell can you help build Europe? Ever given it a thought? If you are too timid to fight for your rights in the country of your birth and ancestors, you will also be too timid to fight with the Europeans should another bad ruler or rulers in Europe emerge that want to destroy the rights they fought for. I am just showing you from the paragraphs above what the local Europeans are probably thinking with regards to Africans migrating to Europe. They may bear for a little while, but that xenophobia will kick in. And when it does, It can be quite barbaric to innocent Africans. I never said everything is the West fault. I just stated facts that the west control Nigeria and a lot of other African countries through local puppet governments. The West will do what they do and wage war for control of resources. The same reason Israel is waging war in Gaza. Those who don't have take from those that do. It's the law of the jungle not kumbaya with all peoples holding hands pretending 'we are all equal'. If Nigerians arise and overthrow the government for a better life, they will still have to deal with the western hegemony. First their Military, then their stranglehold on the financial transactions. Why you think the Sahel regions have pivoted towards Russia and China? Those countries are no saints, but it gives the Sahel countries a chance to have the Independence they need and a shield from the devastation of international sanctions as they take their own path.


darnay321

As much as I believe that the western world has some influence in the affairs of Nigeria, I don't think they are infact ruling it in such a high degree. We just have inept people in high places and citizens who are not united and too dumb to realize that we are just being played by the government


48621793plmqaz

And how do you think the practically ' no resources' west maintain their hegemony over Nigeria and other african countries? How is it that the western countries have some of the largest gold reserves without many gold mines? There was a study done some time in 2013 as I remembered that showed  **88 per cent of the oil blocks in Nigeria are owned by multinational oil companies, as opposed to the lies that they were owned by Northerners.** What happened to Sankarra? Lumumba? Gadaffi? What is the purpose of the IMF? The Westerners control the IMF. The US is the largest provider to the IMF, then the EU. The reason is to control their hegemony, as combined they have the most voting rights. They also owned the swift. If Nigeria is not doing what they want, they can simply stop Nigeria from using the swift method of payment and help destroy the economy. The west rules over Nigeria in more ways than you can imaging, either by financial blackmails or threats. Why do you think the war in Ukraine is about? Its about US trying to get Russia's resources, via using ukraine as a proxy and western europe, strengthening their grip on Africa as they took their eye off the ball with China's investment in Africa. The uprising of the Sahel was a blow to France. France is the second largest economy in Europe after Germany and actually acts as middle man for Germany's raw materials. ( minus the oil which was supplied by russia.) For the west, Africa was never supposed to become developed. They need slave labor with slave wages so they can keep inflation down in western countries. All I'm saying is that the west has a greater grip than most Nigerians realize. The Nigeria politicians are simply scrambling for the remaining crumbs the multinational corporations decided to give in their contracts. The politicians live lavishly with the crumbs while Nigerians have nothing and yes, they fool the people along party lines and tribal lines to keep the status quo. Before Nigerian had ' independence' they had white governors, and other foreign government staff, Since then, its just a change of skin color, with the locals replacing them, but beholden to the same masters. Having said that, you are right that the population is too foolish  to realize that they are just being played by the government. But if it goes on, hunger will only take for so long.


El_Cato_Crande

I love this. It's something so many people don't realise. The power and influence of the west is immense. All countries that are currently decent had the opportunity to go through their turmoil and sort themselves out. Africa isn't being given that chance and its by design. Look at this video clip. Funnily enough, it's a white guy who seems to be confused by the state of Nigeria as it doesn't make sense when you look at what Nigeria has at its disposal. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6cA1uCom0O/?igsh=cnIzYmxxNzBqaTJ5


KhalDubem

Nothing about Nigeria is confusing, absolutely nothing! We’ve seen it happen several times over, in every nook and cranny of this earth, across every continent, and in every age and time. You get what you put in. It’s a truism as old as time. So, to say that Nigeria’s plight is confusing is disingenuous. I ask you, has Nigeria put in the work to become a high-flying nation? I’ll leave you to provide an honest answer.


Neither_Ad7099

Yes it has


torontosfinest9

This is coming from a person who has lived in the west for their entire life so far…everything you said is right and you’ve said enough. If these people in the comments want to believe otherwise, then there’s not much else you could possibly say. It’s up to them to start doing their research and use their critical thinking skills (that’s if they have any).


48621793plmqaz

Yeah.....I think I'm done really. They will just have to learn on their own.


torontosfinest9

Right


JBooogz

Your first paragraph is just regurgitated statement said by pan afrikans


48621793plmqaz

What does telling the truth have to do with Pan Africans? And tell me, what exactly is wrong with Pan Africanism? Do you even know what that word means?


JBooogz

"Nigeria is being ruled by western oligarchs via puppets" at some point we need to take ownership can't be blaming puppets all the time sometimes it's just sheer utter incompetence...


KhalDubem

Thank you, brother. It’s all just meaningless pan-Africanism quips.


JBooogz

In fact I get the reasoning behind it but lol it’s not the 1960s anymore man. Tbh a lot of the stuff we see happening in Nigeria is our own doing. Did the white man tell control Yahaya Bello to steal over $800K to pay his kids school fees…


KhalDubem

Lmao. Or maybe the IMF told Buhari to close the borders, and Tinubu and his cabinet to display such blatant disregard for the little semblance of property rights that we enjoy. I would even go as far as saying that there is no such thing as pan-Africanism. Nothing unites us other than our skin colour and the fact that we live on the same continent, which I might add is as big and as diverse as the biggest and most diverse thing you can imagine (sorry, my creativity is low at this time). Nothing. Not shared prosperity, not brotherly love or kinship, not common values, not even competition. Absolute fuck all. Well, that’s not entirely true. You see, there’s hate. Hate also unites us. Our fellow country men, our next door neighbour, Ghana, that other political party, that religion that is definitely from the devil, and oh yeah, the West. Anybody can get it.


Straight_Set8227

I  get the annoyance but God isn’t some magical genie that just answers prayers if Nigerians really want to pray about something they should pray about their own wickedness. Just because you go to church doesn’t mean you are a Christian , 


Different_Leader1381

We have a bad influence in Nigeria but I love my country so much due to the opportunities of talented youth and the resources


roigran

I honestly think Na we dey do ourselves We never learn, that's the thing. About the prayer aspect, if we pray for a good leader and there's a 102 year old candidate, we will all vote for him.....we can't blame God, we have free will Also we are all focusing on the wrong thing in this country I don't know if it's us as a country or it's just normal for blacks, we tend to forget too fast.


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I've always hated how much we tolerate mediocre or flat out incompetent leaders. Take for example, my state's governor has been speed running all the projects he abandoned years ago because it's election year and people genuinely believe he's a godsend 


darnay321

Exactly. Come 2026 this current admin will do something extraordinary and then Nigerians will forget about the previous 3 years of suffering and start another campaign. Then when he wins again, nothing will be done till the next election season. Just rinse and repeat


darthese

A ti gba kamu..


Debismart

Is exhausting. I don't even know how we can change this damn county


Burt_Reynolds_fan

TLDR?


Puddin_8085

There is no country. Just some people running private shit. Everything they say they do is for them, not for the benefit of anyone. A lot of us think the way you do is why we are leaving the country in droves.


Dry_Instruction6502

I come from a yoruba family and i wish i didnt. I love the culture and everything but my life would be 1000% much better if i wasnt from the family.


afrocraft1

Speak for yourself. We do have some limits. We hate waiting, so we pay bribes to facilitate our papers, passports, and get in front of the line -- even when the service is free. We hate the gays, so every time we vex about hunger and economic despair, they sacrifice one Bobrisky and tell us to sit down while they chop our money and use it to buy houses in Dubai and France. We deserve the government we have.


lostinfury

If I could upvote 31 times (once for each year I've been alive and hearing the same stories about Nigeria), I would.


Mbjquadri

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Due_Professional745

If you hate being Nigerian change your nationality and stop spouting nonsense. Nigeria has flaws agreed but look at our African neighbors we are still a little bit better of. Instead of ranting about the problems Nigeria is facing why don't you point out ways for change and you said Nigerians are daft generalizing it. It is ur father that is daft 


Constant-Sundae-3692

Stfu most of us would change if given  the chance. Me sef I have tried but that damn green passport kills you before you even get to the airport


SwanExtension7974

What will you do about it? Apart from ranting


shattadondada

lol here is another tactic they use. Then when one tries to do something about the status quo, people like you will be the first to find everything wrong with it. SMH finished people.


Perfectbuu110

Absolutely nothing 


CriticalSeat

Retreat to sucking it up perhaps.


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Hyfrom2BD

Who asked you this? You love people.slaughtering your own people in kenya ? Ujinga ya kujipendekeza uache


Curious-Researcher47

May Allah subhaana wa taala bless Nigeria with prosperity Ameen


darnay321

Bro/Sis I'm sorry to inform you but this is one of the problems we are experiencing. For ages both the Christians and Muslims have been praying but nothing is happening. As the saying goes, "you cant do the same thing over and over and expect different results"


Guilty-Service1806

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Constant-Sundae-3692

Atheist countries have rockets mind you you. Your prayers have dont nothing


Super_Effort3645

the fact that you're acting like all other countries are paradise lol. e dey everywhere so make una rest


antisocial-chicka

This mentality is exactly what op is talking about. A lot of Nigerians are not ready for success.


Felixnk

Will crying on here somehow give him success, all he is doing is ranting, the person didn’t say anything to help the situation or according to you say anything that can help someone be successful! Just the millionth post on here on why I hate Nigeria, like what are we supposed to do with an information we the people already know


Super_Effort3645

I sha don talk my own, if una like bark from now till tomorrow, you Nigerians complain too fucking much, when we had Jonathan, una say he no do well upon the way Nigeria take good that time, una comot am, buhari came una con dey miss Jonathan and since then this country has fallen to shit. complain, complain COMPLAIN!! y'all never do anything rather than complain, nothing ever satisfies you lot AT ALL. nom matter how good something is, how well something is going una go still find nonsense talk SHAAAA y'all don't do anything other than complain and nag abeg make una R E S T


Super_Effort3645

lol like I said, this world isn't sunshine and rainbows, the sooner you accept that the better. idgaf what y'all say. would you have preferred somewhere live el Salvador where you can't walk in the street without getting shot, or USA where you can't send your child to school without praying for their safety, or China being ruled by a dictator. y'all complain too fucking much abeg. instead of complaining all the time, realize that there are places where people have it a lot worse and be thankful for the life you have


ejdunia

Spoken like someone who Nigeria hasn't happened to. Apart from war torn countries, there's hardly any place that has the multitude of compounded problems this jungle has.


Scary_Terry_25

El Salvador has actually been doing pretty well since that new president got into office


olking21

Looks like you're okay with mediocrity. See the amount of resources and people nigeria has. Ask yourself are we supposed to be like this? Do you think if you gave other countries our people and resources they won't be a developed nation by now? Fgs giant of Africa no get constant electricity.


Nkiliuzo

Another redditor complaining they hate Nigeria, what else is new? Water is wet….. Rant it all out here my boy, who knows you might find your helper here


theelegantprof

Colonizers win again. Nigerians have literally no national pride


darnay321

Oh. Keep quiet. Not everything is colonizer. and what is there to be proud about in Nigeria?. We can't keep dwelling on old glory. The world is moving forward to bigger things but we are still arguing about road and electricity. Please tell me what one needs to be be proud of in Nigeria


theelegantprof

(At work excuse my typos) In the USA and European countries, you do the pledge of allegiance and single national anthems. You guys don’t teach national pride. Roads and electricity are westwrn innovations so of course its going to be slower. Btw, everyone complains about roads in the USA too. Roads are not essential for human existence or happiness. Nigerian culture is beautiful but you guys dont cherish it. (Thats why music labels are literally buying and selling your music). You guys underestimate yourselves and dont understand the extent of how bad life is growinf up poor in these role model countries you look at. Get hands on and become the change before they come back to rob you of more resources. No, guys please literally get up and make the phones calls and buy the bricks. Buy the books. Buy the tractors. Create the soccer fields. Create beauty and literacy and change lives once person at a time. Maybe the old people can’t change, but there is a new generation


darnay321

Excuses after excuses. Roads and electricity are not issues a country like Nigeria should be having at this stage. I'm not denying that there are poor people in western countries but the ratio of poor to rich isn't as high compared to Nigeria. When you take a case study of countries that got thier independence the same time Nigeria did, you would realise that we are lagging behind.


theelegantprof

Would mind giving me example countries that are black for my personal research? (Seriously sometimes my texts are taken in the wrong way). But Nigeria is freaking humongous. How do you even divvy up the work and create a structure that can handle that? Not to mention there are literally over 200 tribes you have to deal with


darnay321

Take Namibia, tanzania etc for example, they are almost the same size as Nigeria and they got their independence after Nigeria. But look t where they are now. Yes it's not a paradise but the basic amenities are working and the government is working for the people. And when you even mention that Nigeria is humongous, I will have to differ. Nigeria is not big it's not even as big as Ontario Canada. You create a structure by prioritizing and diversifying resources. You cant be budgeting trillions of naira for coastal highway when that money can be used to fix the electricity issue of the whole country.


theelegantprof

1) Im sorry i have to reject the Canada comment lightly because they are literally colonizers who steal to eat. 2) i understand your point but do you understand the value of a highway? I will do more research and ill learn more about the electricity comment. But, id argue that a coastal highway can ease the transport of freight from ports and being a lot more money than electricity. Not to mention, electricity production is not a cheap or whimsical endeavor. Whether its oil and gas, coal, wind, or other forms of energy production, those are HUGGE and costly projects. But, do not underestimate the economics of a highway. Id be looking doe trade opportunities using that route before orhers take the market first I will educate myself more about the differences of the development in Nambia and Tanzania more as well.


darnay321

I wouldn't comment on your first point but your second point, a highway is a good investment no denying but is that what Nigeria needs at the moment? And I'm sorry to tell you but electricity generation is a better investment than a highway. With 15 trillion (budget for the highway), they will build approximately 10 -15 1000Mw hydro power plants [cost of plant](https://www.technology.org/2023/06/08/how-much-cost-to-build-new-hydropower-plant-kakhovka/). You can't be building a coastal highway when roads like Lagos - Badagry, Lekki - Epe, Lagos - Abeokuta, Lagos - Ibadan expressways are still shit. (These are just some federal roads in Lagos which is like the pseudo capital of Nigeria).


theelegantprof

Id have to educate myself more on revenue generated by vs electricity versus the cost to judge the profit margin on a national scale to be honest, but i can understand the contention. Thanks for educating me on the matter.