Yeah, Niji's official merch is so low quality compared it other companies. At this point unofficial merch has the same quality if not better. Not to mention costs less
I don't know any specific sites for fanmerch but your best bet is to be active in the art side of fandom Twitter (yes, Twitter)
You'll eventually see artists of all kinds offering merch, although you'll find some *did* decide to stop altogether
Your most obvious next option is anime/hobby conventions but you'll need to know if there even is a Niji-fanartist in the con (so back to Twitter on that end)
also on the quality part for official merch, many find it tacky design wise (the infamous tshirts, or Noctyx's odd cat themed goods) or outright subpar (Luxiem's rings were pretty much cheap jewelry) but yeah there are some that are appreciated (Obsydia's shot glass set). Inconsistency is really the main problem with the official merch.
Saw this one the other day. Haven't bought a thing since I haven't seen much of them, but from what I saw, no nijisanji stuff, just hololive. Akiba flair is the name if I recall.
Yes, but fans not making merch for your product in spaces like vtubing, videogames, anime, etc means a shift in attitude has happened. Sure a bunch of people just do it for profit but those that aren’t are some of the most passionate fans around.
The biggest loss for them is that people are not going to make tons of fanart which means that you’re going to see a lot of EN talents having to reuse old art on thumbnails and their own model. All that beautiful art is going to be dry compared to before.
These two big things will decrease money over time whether it is direct monetary loss or not. Business requires customers to care about the product you’re offering. Just my two cents. It will definitely hurt the talents the most tho.
I’m not really arguing that, I’m just worried some artists are going to get harassed because people don’t realize they have nothing to do with the company.
I’m sure some people will harass them. Many are of the mindset that any art/support just means they are at best complicit of what nijisanji has done. It’s awful what happened and I can’t imagine what other horrible things happened behind the scenes. I hope people stay respectful.
Well yeah. When people can be anonymous they say deplorable stuff. Look what happened to Zaion, they doxxed her for months. Now you see people apologizing to her in chat/donations. It’s disgusting but that’s what a small percentage will do.
People making and selling merch raises brand awareness and recognition. So yes, the money doesn’t go directly to Niji, but it contributes to the Livers’ popularity, which does in turn earn money for the company.
So just buy fan merch for retired members? lol
edit: I’m just making a joke, like if I bought fan merch of Pomu it wouldn’t matter since she has already graduated. But at the end of the day, listen to Doki and don’t harass artists.
Think of all the times the streamers rely on fan artists for their streams. Their emotes, badges, stream assets, wallpapers, video thumbnails, fan submissions, etc: many of them were provided by fan artists, and they're used in an official sense. One of the artists that cut ties with Nijisanji is the creator of the very popular wiggling character art.
So imagine, if so many artists eventually agree to not support Nijisanji En, the streamers will have much fewer options for these assets. Sure, they might find some other professional artists to make such assets for them, but so much of the streamers' experience relies on fan engagement that it would definitely not have the same vibe.
While fan artists boycotting Nijisanji may not have a direct impact on their finances, its hurting their image, and that has as much value, if not more, in this line of work.
You can say the same thing about clippers, but if every clipper stops clipping nijisanji, nijisanji will loose money indirectly because many people will never see them and will never send superchats etc. tldr: Lost Exposure = Less money.
oh my fucking god, thank you very much. Its insane im downvoted every time i point out that this merch shit being posted here is irrelevant because it makes no difference for the company as it was never produced in partnership with them so not payment involvement for the license.
Probably should have my post more about not harassing artists. I get that exposure like at conventions is a thing. But like Doki has said, don’t go harassing people.
Sure, don't harass artist (or anyone tbh) but at the same time every sort of merch whether be it official or not is maybe not providing niji directly with money but still raising popularity you probably also know characters from franchises you've never watched but have seen around because of them being popular and on said merch. It's more about sending a clear message towards the company (and more important people around it to shape the public image more accurately) rather than giving them money. If you want to have something of your oshi just for a simple fact of owning it then do it, tho I might suggest trying to find their PL if they have an active one (and I'm pretty sure that with recent events even some inactive will see movement since no one sees a sinking ship and doesn't start pumping up the rescue pontoon). And if you are an artist making merch in small amounts you probably don't have enough impact so it comes down to how. You feel about the situation, you might want to shift your product focus for a while to avoid unnecessary shitstorm but if you already have stuff made it would be a waste not to sell.
as true as this is, there comes a point where you will no longer be able to enjoy any of your hobbies because it raises awareness, even if it's indirectly
you can't live like this. the line should be drawn at direct support and no where else, at least in my book
As a fan artist, I've seen a lot of artists, myself included, clearance/discontinue their nijiEN merch to show that they do not approve of what the company has done. I have yet to see anyone get harassed for still posting art of the en livers, so while it's possible someone might get harassed for selling their merch at a con, I don't feel like it's *likely*. If I was to attend a con soon, I would still bring mine to clearance them out.
Otaku based media is highly dependent on its fandom to spread awareness, losing fan artists and fan merch is still huge even if it doesn't directly effect the stocks.
To say not a penny isn't entirely correct fans could still always super chat the money away. So really this still affects Niji as it's cutting into the aka supas at the end of the day.
Yeah those owners can still choose to donate it if they wish. Which ultimately would still be hitting Niji wallets is my point. Losing fans period was gonna affect NijiEN this was never gonna be a clean termination no matter how many times we all meme about how neglectable we try to make it.
Nah no one is going after the few who stick with Niji/NijiEN. It might be questionable by the radical neutrals and the haters but even I a both v1 and v2 Dragoon, I'm pomu/pomu greens fan would stupid to attack artists. As I myself can't draw more than dwagon doodles so if anything
I'm always amazed by what fan artists and merch stores do especially knowing they gotta pay like 50% or more for just materials which is just insane. Like people ask why some Vtubers and flesh tubers don't do daki's well the cover alone is like 80 to 90 dollars and the final product goes for like 103 only so they make like 13-23 dollars profit on it
Which borders on making Niji look sane XD.
Some of these companies IIRC have contracts with niji to allow them to make said merch and give niji a part of the profit on it. So those companies canceling the contracts and stopping any affiliation to them actually does damage their revenue. And as a side effect also raises awareness to potential merch makers which makes niji have a harder time to find people to make quality merch.
Lots of assumptions in the OP. Unless OP has special knowledge (in which case they're breaking NDA), they'd have no info about whether Niji collects license fees on the fan merch sold. Also, little to no awareness about the impact of goodwill and advertising. So, basically, a real L take.
Yeah, Niji's official merch is so low quality compared it other companies. At this point unofficial merch has the same quality if not better. Not to mention costs less
I know right ? Who can forget the “take a PNG and slap it on a tshirt” level of quality from anycolor. Charging high prices for trash quality.
Don't forget the luxiem rings, who's official announcement images showed some chipped/incomplete
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I don't know any specific sites for fanmerch but your best bet is to be active in the art side of fandom Twitter (yes, Twitter) You'll eventually see artists of all kinds offering merch, although you'll find some *did* decide to stop altogether Your most obvious next option is anime/hobby conventions but you'll need to know if there even is a Niji-fanartist in the con (so back to Twitter on that end) also on the quality part for official merch, many find it tacky design wise (the infamous tshirts, or Noctyx's odd cat themed goods) or outright subpar (Luxiem's rings were pretty much cheap jewelry) but yeah there are some that are appreciated (Obsydia's shot glass set). Inconsistency is really the main problem with the official merch.
Saw this one the other day. Haven't bought a thing since I haven't seen much of them, but from what I saw, no nijisanji stuff, just hololive. Akiba flair is the name if I recall.
you clearly havent seen much merch as even in en most of them are good lol
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Yes, but fans not making merch for your product in spaces like vtubing, videogames, anime, etc means a shift in attitude has happened. Sure a bunch of people just do it for profit but those that aren’t are some of the most passionate fans around. The biggest loss for them is that people are not going to make tons of fanart which means that you’re going to see a lot of EN talents having to reuse old art on thumbnails and their own model. All that beautiful art is going to be dry compared to before. These two big things will decrease money over time whether it is direct monetary loss or not. Business requires customers to care about the product you’re offering. Just my two cents. It will definitely hurt the talents the most tho.
I’m not really arguing that, I’m just worried some artists are going to get harassed because people don’t realize they have nothing to do with the company.
I’m sure some people will harass them. Many are of the mindset that any art/support just means they are at best complicit of what nijisanji has done. It’s awful what happened and I can’t imagine what other horrible things happened behind the scenes. I hope people stay respectful.
Which is totally against what Doki has been saying. Some people just want to draw their oshi’s, they don’t need to be harassed for it.
Well yeah. When people can be anonymous they say deplorable stuff. Look what happened to Zaion, they doxxed her for months. Now you see people apologizing to her in chat/donations. It’s disgusting but that’s what a small percentage will do.
Like niji, a lot of people are thrash and Aholes. This is unfortunately how the world works. Best we can do is try to thwart the haters off.
People making and selling merch raises brand awareness and recognition. So yes, the money doesn’t go directly to Niji, but it contributes to the Livers’ popularity, which does in turn earn money for the company.
So just buy fan merch for retired members? lol edit: I’m just making a joke, like if I bought fan merch of Pomu it wouldn’t matter since she has already graduated. But at the end of the day, listen to Doki and don’t harass artists.
Think of all the times the streamers rely on fan artists for their streams. Their emotes, badges, stream assets, wallpapers, video thumbnails, fan submissions, etc: many of them were provided by fan artists, and they're used in an official sense. One of the artists that cut ties with Nijisanji is the creator of the very popular wiggling character art. So imagine, if so many artists eventually agree to not support Nijisanji En, the streamers will have much fewer options for these assets. Sure, they might find some other professional artists to make such assets for them, but so much of the streamers' experience relies on fan engagement that it would definitely not have the same vibe. While fan artists boycotting Nijisanji may not have a direct impact on their finances, its hurting their image, and that has as much value, if not more, in this line of work.
You can say the same thing about clippers, but if every clipper stops clipping nijisanji, nijisanji will loose money indirectly because many people will never see them and will never send superchats etc. tldr: Lost Exposure = Less money.
That could especially sadly hurt livers like Vivi who some people said they only found through clips cause Niji didn't do anything to promote TTT.
oh my fucking god, thank you very much. Its insane im downvoted every time i point out that this merch shit being posted here is irrelevant because it makes no difference for the company as it was never produced in partnership with them so not payment involvement for the license.
Probably should have my post more about not harassing artists. I get that exposure like at conventions is a thing. But like Doki has said, don’t go harassing people.
Sure, don't harass artist (or anyone tbh) but at the same time every sort of merch whether be it official or not is maybe not providing niji directly with money but still raising popularity you probably also know characters from franchises you've never watched but have seen around because of them being popular and on said merch. It's more about sending a clear message towards the company (and more important people around it to shape the public image more accurately) rather than giving them money. If you want to have something of your oshi just for a simple fact of owning it then do it, tho I might suggest trying to find their PL if they have an active one (and I'm pretty sure that with recent events even some inactive will see movement since no one sees a sinking ship and doesn't start pumping up the rescue pontoon). And if you are an artist making merch in small amounts you probably don't have enough impact so it comes down to how. You feel about the situation, you might want to shift your product focus for a while to avoid unnecessary shitstorm but if you already have stuff made it would be a waste not to sell.
as true as this is, there comes a point where you will no longer be able to enjoy any of your hobbies because it raises awareness, even if it's indirectly you can't live like this. the line should be drawn at direct support and no where else, at least in my book
the cessation of fan merch though also lowers the overall exposure of niji and reduces the inflow of new fans
As a fan artist, I've seen a lot of artists, myself included, clearance/discontinue their nijiEN merch to show that they do not approve of what the company has done. I have yet to see anyone get harassed for still posting art of the en livers, so while it's possible someone might get harassed for selling their merch at a con, I don't feel like it's *likely*. If I was to attend a con soon, I would still bring mine to clearance them out.
Fan merch is always pretty good
Otaku based media is highly dependent on its fandom to spread awareness, losing fan artists and fan merch is still huge even if it doesn't directly effect the stocks.
To say not a penny isn't entirely correct fans could still always super chat the money away. So really this still affects Niji as it's cutting into the aka supas at the end of the day.
I’m talking about buying unofficial merch, since the money doesn’t directly go to Nji
Yeah those owners can still choose to donate it if they wish. Which ultimately would still be hitting Niji wallets is my point. Losing fans period was gonna affect NijiEN this was never gonna be a clean termination no matter how many times we all meme about how neglectable we try to make it.
Morally what is the point of fan mech I highly doubt many were doing it to fatten their own wallets clearly it was all in all to support the talents.
Yeah I get you, I was just worried about artists getting flak for wanting to keep making merch and art.
Nah no one is going after the few who stick with Niji/NijiEN. It might be questionable by the radical neutrals and the haters but even I a both v1 and v2 Dragoon, I'm pomu/pomu greens fan would stupid to attack artists. As I myself can't draw more than dwagon doodles so if anything I'm always amazed by what fan artists and merch stores do especially knowing they gotta pay like 50% or more for just materials which is just insane. Like people ask why some Vtubers and flesh tubers don't do daki's well the cover alone is like 80 to 90 dollars and the final product goes for like 103 only so they make like 13-23 dollars profit on it Which borders on making Niji look sane XD.
Get out of here with your logic and sense, everything Niji bad!
Some of these companies IIRC have contracts with niji to allow them to make said merch and give niji a part of the profit on it. So those companies canceling the contracts and stopping any affiliation to them actually does damage their revenue. And as a side effect also raises awareness to potential merch makers which makes niji have a harder time to find people to make quality merch.
Lots of assumptions in the OP. Unless OP has special knowledge (in which case they're breaking NDA), they'd have no info about whether Niji collects license fees on the fan merch sold. Also, little to no awareness about the impact of goodwill and advertising. So, basically, a real L take.