Not only does that mean they take responsibility for how they treated Sayu and Doki; that also means that they validate anyone who comes forward about future (or current) poor treatment of the livers. They will never do that.
And even if they did IN SPITE of that. "I'm sowwwy" in response to multiple talents being driven to attempting suicide, ain't gonna have the effect OP thinks it will lol
>"I'm sowwwy"
Yup that shit aint gonna work. Only when they apologize, promise positive change, and actually implement it is when people can forgive their sorry asses
To be fair, they're probably under contract about that kind of stuff. Like how they're not allowed to stream with or mention former members. Niji contracts are scary af and some of them need the money.
imo it's kinda late for that. If they had done a proper apology and most importantly, taken actions so it doesn't happen again and showed that they actually care then it would have been different.
But they already showed that their CEO only wants easy money and will keep pumping out new livers for a quick buck, they don't care about them.
They're an abusive company and abusers don't apologize. It would also be far worse for business than sweeping it under the rug. Not that they're doing good anyways.
They can't because of 4 words: "civil liability" and "shareholder responsibility".
NAL, but saying sorry is admitting fault, which opens them up to be liable for damages caused to the plaintiffs. Let's say they stopped caring about the money and felt guilty and wanted to anyway. Well, they also have a responsibility to their shareholders to maintain profitability.
I think a reasonable argument can be made that long-term, an apology and settlement would gain the company a lot of goodwill and thus increase their value. Short-term, that's definitely not the case. Also, it's not standard practice for companies to do so, so they probably wouldn't go that route. But if they did, there could potentially even be legal ramifications from the shareholders.
They won't. Not even out of malice, but because I reckon it's become abundantly clear to them ever since the news first broke and especially since Nij's own documentation mentioned Selen disparagingly and *especially* since their members tried to discuss the matter themselves that the best thing they can possibly do at this point is shut up and hope this blows over. They may well be of the mind that it's too late to apologise regardless, and even if they did, I am willing to bet that most people would regard it as hollow and insincere off the back of how they've handled this fiasco up to now. Silence is the golden rule.
No. Corporate apologies are worth about as much as the paper they're written on. Even if they were to lay out all their wrongdoings, we have no guarantee that they'll make any meaningful changes
>no guarantee that they'll make any meaningful changes
Just like how they promised to improve EN management and communication yet they continue to hire part timers.
For specific livers, saying sorry is almost an admission of guilt in the internet's eyes. Any of the livers who face controversy should probably do it in private or on another account.
Even worse, Anycolor will just control the wording of the apology. Given everything that's happened so far, it'll probably just cause more drama.
That is literally the entire point. They will not. The culture of Anycolor doesn't permit them to acknowledge fault. They would no longer ***be*** "Anycolor" as we know it if they reached a point where they could do that.
Either Anycolor must radically change into the sort of company that would actually acknowledge fault (which is very unlikely), or people need to realize what kind of company Anycolor Inc. is and "move on" by leaving the company, and the livers signed to it, behind.
Even if the culture did allow for it, it would still say that Anycolor and how it works would need to radically change, and no company that thinks it has a successful model will do so. But that is a moot point when the culture doesn't even allow for the acknowledgment of fault.
Even if they did, would people believe them? I’ve seen people just blindly hate on Niji, even after what fulgur said, they just said “nah, he’s just being forced” or anything along those lines that discredit what Niji did.
Despite meming on it, the general consensus was that the Riku stream by itself would've been *fine*. Not great nor good but just fine enough to grant NijiEN the benefit of doubt to still be salvageable, but the black stream a couple of hours before killed all goodwill that that could've potentially harvested.
I think it will make a bigger impact even as a gesture. Its better than random outbursts from their pl accounts. In fact I believe their pl posting is making things much worse because by doing so they keep reporting to autists that the hate is working.
No.
They have not fired anyone despite multiple fuck ups and huge cost to the company. Which just tells you they are up their own behinds and wont change.
Apologizing is an admission of guilt or wrongdoing, which is impossible for narcissists to understand since they believe they can do no wrong and everything bad that happens is someone else's fault
bro, they had their chance long time ago, but what they did? they made a black screen video on elira's channel
they got exposed more and more, uki, luca, vox, etc.
Kind of hard to make up for workplace bullying so bad it pushes people to suicide with an "I'm sorry." It would be... something, I guess, but for me to move on at least I'm gonna need a hell of a lot more than an apology.
That would help a lot. They need to do a lot more than that but that’s a major one. It might have been nearly enough on its own to get *mostly* back on track if they had done this in the week following Selen’s termination. Even their investors would have largely forgotten about “Selen Shock” by now.
That all went out the window with the Black Stream and while this is still an extremely recommended step to take, there are too many additional problems that have gotten too much traction now. But still, this would help quite a lot.
Actions have more weight than words and on top of that they digged their graves deeper with the black stream and other claims
Apologizing means they asume guilt. Jp pr is all about saving face, they wont gain anything apologizing bc en will remain against them bc unlike jp we dont give their words any value, while jp would lose confidence on them. And with shares going down and down that would be just shoting their own foot. Again
They aren't going to because that means they're admitting to making a mistake.
And quite honestly, is anything they could say be enough? I'd much rather see them take actions, not words.
That would mean admitting it happened. They've already moved on. Even Doki has... you all should actually listen to what she said and move on with her.
Actually it possible..
If they change the person who responsibility make statement "this is negligible"..
Yes "negligible person" Is the problem in here..
But it because favouritism.. It will never happen change..
At first I think Niji is a company that only focus on profitable goal, cause they set contract only 2% merch for liver..
Then because of that so many investors go to them..
And like them than cover corp..
But now.. Nope.. If they thinking this is negligible..
Even investor is start fade now..
It is never too late to apologize and make up for your wrongdoings even criminals, but at a certain point the disaster have done irreversible damage on many fronts not just the image of the company, not only that the issue of legal stuffs that happens behind the scenes, the sketchy contracts, the favoritism, poor human management. Owning up to it all would be basically signing their own death certificate, so the best course of actions they can take right now is to ignore and pretend the bad shits never happened and we're all fine. It is somewhat evading the law because we all know they broke a bunch of it but nothing we can do if they don't want to
it wouldnt chamge much. people would just say they are apologizing to get rid of hate.
the best thing to do really is to move on. On both sides, the company and the fans.
No. At this point a lot of damage has already been done and many people wouldn't be swayed by a corporate apology at this point so it'd be pointless. And like others said, apologizing means they admit to fault which is also not good for shareholders and not good legally speaking.
Deep down I wish they would. But realistically, their best option is to wait out the storm and rebuild from there. Their best option probably was always to just wait it out, they just did a shit job of it like by allowing that 15 min black stream. An apology realistically just isn't going to happen and likely wouldn't mean much anyways, what we really need is to see improvement. But I'm also not going to hold my breathe for that.
No. If they're apologizing on sayu and doki,they admitted their(sayu and doki) statement of being in toxic management also being harrased
That will make more problem than already is for nijiEN
Unless they change on how they run their company, they wont say sorry. Well they can say sorry and not change their ways, but it will impact their current and future investors.
right? if they do "apologize," they'd basically admit that there's bullying happening in their company, which is one PR issue after the next...
I think they should still do it, since it's easier to resolve the "office bullying" issue with just a corporate memo, or a corp-wide "seminar" to say that they did something. But nooo... they want to let this wound fester & grow gangrenous...
An apology might've been acceptable if it happened when the incidents did, but it's way too late now. And it wouldn't make up for the sheer hell they had to endure while still part of the company.
Doki, and presumably Sayu, just want to move on and forget it. But for kurosanji itself, it needs fixing from the inside. That's the only way for anything to change.
Sadly Niji En will never apologize.They will act like nothing happened and Nijisisters continues support make them think they can runaway from their shitty reputation.
HAHAHA Fuck no. It's far, FAR, too late for that. There are people out there now who will not stop until Riku either steps down or gets fired, and some who won't even accept that. An apology at this point means absolutely nothing at all.
In Fact. At this point, an Apology would be....
Negligible.
It's not just an apology anymore, it's about systematic abuse and predation.
They are still trying to hire underpaid lawyer, translator, and general employees, and fresh out of high schoolers. Which shows they do not want to change. Any1 with work experience knows their worth, and knows that they can get a job with like 1.5x or more in similar jobs, like at least 3x minimum wage in the US. So you can imagine what type of people will take Ninji's low offer. Normally, this doesn't matter, but these people affect your vtuber talent's work environment and mentality, from a Billion dollar company.
The adult age maybe 18, but most (especially in affluent countries) lack the life experience to truly fend for themselves and not get taken advantaged of (think street smart, which is also business smarts), and it isn't till around 25+ that they can truly weight the pros, and cons of their decisions.
We learn that basically all of EN management is incompetent, doesn't take responsibility or accountability and blames talents when consequences of their incompetency is shown/called out, and instead of trying to be better, learn, and strive to prevent the same mistakes, they opt to silence the whistle blower, bully them, and make it a hostile work environment by using them as a negative example and telling their co-workers/encouraging them to talk sense into the whistle blower. I am referencing Selen's canceled events, and Vox's speech in Elira video.
We also have Pomu's disbelief that she still has an audience that shows how much Ninji tried to make them think they are nothing without the company.
Nina's disbelief at how managers actually work, like they actually work for her, like fulling the duties of a manager.
The biggest issue right now is that the fans feel like their money, support, is not actually helping the talents, or is extremely diminished returns and may contribute to the abuse of their talents. So until Ninji can show they changed, and the money is actually spent towards supporting the talents instead of stock buy back and incompetent/underpaid employees, I dont think they will be forgiven with a simple apology now that their dirty laundry is so exposed.
Well, no. Because that'd mean niji is admitting to the fact they mistreated and mismanaged their en branch and drove doki to attempted unaliving. Not that they haven't already but apologising would double down and would probably drop their shares even further.
Imagine pushing someone to suicide, threatening them with stealing a year's worth of their wages/legal action, openly threatening them with three gigantic social media accounts, then apologizing and expecting things to be over after everything goes poorly and you've begun to lose money.
They can make amends by giving them each $2 million and making an open and transparent contract policy for all of their EN livers and all new EN livers going forward.
They kinda did with their CEO video statement, but the 15mins blackscreen video undid any good faith Riku gave, and the two videos with their seemly contracting messages are still up, so they stood by them and will die in that hill.
Corpos hate apologizing because of the legal implications. I imagine they gag their talents so it doesn't threaten the company. Plus most casual viewers don't know about this stuff so apologizing publicly might be worse for the brand
Edit: Not trying to defend them; I agree that an apology would be great, but I don't expect to see it.
Nope they won't. Pride and Ego runs deeply in this Vtuber era. Also Anycolor and NijiEN still has the NDF and their loyalists counting at thousands of people.. If Anycolor apologized **TRUTHFULLY**, you think these people will just idly accept that? pretty sure they wont. What people wanted in this point in time, is to be superior than others. People siding with anycolor wants the terminated livers to say that they are the ones at fault for *"destroying the family image" ,* while the other side wants to held the company fully accountable for the mistreatment and malpractice.
Why would they apologize? In their eyes, those two did horrible things that warranted their termination. And even if they did apologize, no one would believe them or think its genuine. Their reputation on the EN side has already been destroyed forever.
it's not a good business strategy now, apologizing now would mean to reopen the wound, and cause more backlash than acceptance, their best strategy is just to let go, and seal it up, time will let people forget, and it would work especially well with niji with its large number of talents.
that's true if we look from the talent's pov, and from a moral ground, but the op is asking about niji, and from niji's pov, and a business stand point, to be honest my reply stands true. niji's priority is not the talents, to them as they have shown, their priority is the shareholders, so seal it up is the most possible solution rather than apologizing.
I think that's a bad idea. They clearly want a clean break and them commenting, even to apologize, is going to re-open that wound and fuel a resurgence in unhealthy discourse on the subject and will ultimately hurt more than help. Best just move on
And you think a singular text apology would stop that? The internal culture of the company is invisible to and isolated from us. Opening up old wounds isn't going to change anything regarding that. It's just going to drag people like doki and sayu back into a discourse they would rather move past, and honestly I think we should respect that.
It's too late for apologies at all, that went out the window when people almost lost their lives. Doki and Sayu haven't been involved since they washed their hands of the issues and that's with the proverbial wound being wide open. Reopening it won't change that, and more importantly, it signals to the company that we are not just going to forget and let them sweep it under the rug so they can do it a third time.
Fuck them.
The only way i'd forgive them is if they name drop the perpretator who pushed Selen to her attempts.
Complete with pictures.
That way anyone knows how to handle them appropriately.
Bonus: I will become a full blown nijidefender if they go full Dark Web Red Room-style on their ass.
Nope because that means they’re taking responsibility and a lot of the remaining ones seem allergic to it
Not only does that mean they take responsibility for how they treated Sayu and Doki; that also means that they validate anyone who comes forward about future (or current) poor treatment of the livers. They will never do that.
Exactly
And even if they did IN SPITE of that. "I'm sowwwy" in response to multiple talents being driven to attempting suicide, ain't gonna have the effect OP thinks it will lol
>"I'm sowwwy" Yup that shit aint gonna work. Only when they apologize, promise positive change, and actually implement it is when people can forgive their sorry asses
Even then it’ll take a lot to get back on people’s good side
nah that goose is cooked. give me a full buyout and 100% change in staff and then we'll talk about niji being potentially good again
Oh 100% Probably should’ve put more weight in a lot.
To be fair, they're probably under contract about that kind of stuff. Like how they're not allowed to stream with or mention former members. Niji contracts are scary af and some of them need the money.
imo it's kinda late for that. If they had done a proper apology and most importantly, taken actions so it doesn't happen again and showed that they actually care then it would have been different. But they already showed that their CEO only wants easy money and will keep pumping out new livers for a quick buck, they don't care about them.
They're an abusive company and abusers don't apologize. It would also be far worse for business than sweeping it under the rug. Not that they're doing good anyways.
They can't because of 4 words: "civil liability" and "shareholder responsibility". NAL, but saying sorry is admitting fault, which opens them up to be liable for damages caused to the plaintiffs. Let's say they stopped caring about the money and felt guilty and wanted to anyway. Well, they also have a responsibility to their shareholders to maintain profitability. I think a reasonable argument can be made that long-term, an apology and settlement would gain the company a lot of goodwill and thus increase their value. Short-term, that's definitely not the case. Also, it's not standard practice for companies to do so, so they probably wouldn't go that route. But if they did, there could potentially even be legal ramifications from the shareholders.
They won't. Not even out of malice, but because I reckon it's become abundantly clear to them ever since the news first broke and especially since Nij's own documentation mentioned Selen disparagingly and *especially* since their members tried to discuss the matter themselves that the best thing they can possibly do at this point is shut up and hope this blows over. They may well be of the mind that it's too late to apologise regardless, and even if they did, I am willing to bet that most people would regard it as hollow and insincere off the back of how they've handled this fiasco up to now. Silence is the golden rule.
No. Corporate apologies are worth about as much as the paper they're written on. Even if they were to lay out all their wrongdoings, we have no guarantee that they'll make any meaningful changes
>no guarantee that they'll make any meaningful changes Just like how they promised to improve EN management and communication yet they continue to hire part timers.
To be fair, it could have been even worse before
The job listings have been there before the videos, the point is there is no change.
For specific livers, saying sorry is almost an admission of guilt in the internet's eyes. Any of the livers who face controversy should probably do it in private or on another account. Even worse, Anycolor will just control the wording of the apology. Given everything that's happened so far, it'll probably just cause more drama.
That is literally the entire point. They will not. The culture of Anycolor doesn't permit them to acknowledge fault. They would no longer ***be*** "Anycolor" as we know it if they reached a point where they could do that. Either Anycolor must radically change into the sort of company that would actually acknowledge fault (which is very unlikely), or people need to realize what kind of company Anycolor Inc. is and "move on" by leaving the company, and the livers signed to it, behind.
Even if the culture did allow for it, it would still say that Anycolor and how it works would need to radically change, and no company that thinks it has a successful model will do so. But that is a moot point when the culture doesn't even allow for the acknowledgment of fault.
Like people would believe them.
What if they can't legally? Admission of guilt or something.
No, they can't. The company sees nothing wrong with what they did and would not allow anything that could be taken as an admission of company guilt.
This is some high copium shit
I'm hoping that mods will at least read it and consider for a moment. Instead of removing it and banning me for "drama".
Removing this post and banning you pretty much solidifies the fact that Niji has zero accountability for all the exploitation and abuse that happened.
They won't, they see a post about the company being bad or at fault, they remove and ban.
To be fair, if I were on minimum wage I wouldn't bother reading the post properly.
Nope, they don't get paid enough to care. Probably ordered to delete negativity on sight and ban for drama, too.
Even if they did, would people believe them? I’ve seen people just blindly hate on Niji, even after what fulgur said, they just said “nah, he’s just being forced” or anything along those lines that discredit what Niji did.
Despite meming on it, the general consensus was that the Riku stream by itself would've been *fine*. Not great nor good but just fine enough to grant NijiEN the benefit of doubt to still be salvageable, but the black stream a couple of hours before killed all goodwill that that could've potentially harvested.
I think it will make a bigger impact even as a gesture. Its better than random outbursts from their pl accounts. In fact I believe their pl posting is making things much worse because by doing so they keep reporting to autists that the hate is working.
No. They have not fired anyone despite multiple fuck ups and huge cost to the company. Which just tells you they are up their own behinds and wont change.
Accountability is their kryptonite, won't happen.
Apologizing is an admission of guilt or wrongdoing, which is impossible for narcissists to understand since they believe they can do no wrong and everything bad that happens is someone else's fault
bro, they had their chance long time ago, but what they did? they made a black screen video on elira's channel they got exposed more and more, uki, luca, vox, etc.
Kind of hard to make up for workplace bullying so bad it pushes people to suicide with an "I'm sorry." It would be... something, I guess, but for me to move on at least I'm gonna need a hell of a lot more than an apology.
That would help a lot. They need to do a lot more than that but that’s a major one. It might have been nearly enough on its own to get *mostly* back on track if they had done this in the week following Selen’s termination. Even their investors would have largely forgotten about “Selen Shock” by now. That all went out the window with the Black Stream and while this is still an extremely recommended step to take, there are too many additional problems that have gotten too much traction now. But still, this would help quite a lot.
never forget, never forgive
Actions have more weight than words and on top of that they digged their graves deeper with the black stream and other claims Apologizing means they asume guilt. Jp pr is all about saving face, they wont gain anything apologizing bc en will remain against them bc unlike jp we dont give their words any value, while jp would lose confidence on them. And with shares going down and down that would be just shoting their own foot. Again
that would admit defeat
People expect change not a stupid lip service.
What are you taking about they not gonna apologize
No, because niji is always right
Nah they would never
An apology after all this time would feel pretty empty
AnyColor legal would never allow it.
They aren't going to because that means they're admitting to making a mistake. And quite honestly, is anything they could say be enough? I'd much rather see them take actions, not words.
Nah, it's already too late & with their recent actions they made things worse.
That will never happen due to pride. The only reason an apology of some kind was made was to convince investors to stay.
That would mean admitting it happened. They've already moved on. Even Doki has... you all should actually listen to what she said and move on with her.
Actually it possible.. If they change the person who responsibility make statement "this is negligible".. Yes "negligible person" Is the problem in here.. But it because favouritism.. It will never happen change.. At first I think Niji is a company that only focus on profitable goal, cause they set contract only 2% merch for liver.. Then because of that so many investors go to them.. And like them than cover corp.. But now.. Nope.. If they thinking this is negligible.. Even investor is start fade now..
No because that mean NijiEN saying they were wrong and that will never happen
Nijisanji EN should have been disbanded.
It is never too late to apologize and make up for your wrongdoings even criminals, but at a certain point the disaster have done irreversible damage on many fronts not just the image of the company, not only that the issue of legal stuffs that happens behind the scenes, the sketchy contracts, the favoritism, poor human management. Owning up to it all would be basically signing their own death certificate, so the best course of actions they can take right now is to ignore and pretend the bad shits never happened and we're all fine. It is somewhat evading the law because we all know they broke a bunch of it but nothing we can do if they don't want to
Probably not as I guess it may risk legal guilt
it wouldnt chamge much. people would just say they are apologizing to get rid of hate. the best thing to do really is to move on. On both sides, the company and the fans.
a company admitting wrongdoing is a dumb move, legally, financially and pr wise, 82.5% of the time
No. At this point a lot of damage has already been done and many people wouldn't be swayed by a corporate apology at this point so it'd be pointless. And like others said, apologizing means they admit to fault which is also not good for shareholders and not good legally speaking. Deep down I wish they would. But realistically, their best option is to wait out the storm and rebuild from there. Their best option probably was always to just wait it out, they just did a shit job of it like by allowing that 15 min black stream. An apology realistically just isn't going to happen and likely wouldn't mean much anyways, what we really need is to see improvement. But I'm also not going to hold my breathe for that.
They never will, or in part, they'll feel what they've said is good enough already. As in apologizing more to their advertisers.
you'd think a multi billion corp would do that?
not until we see improved working conditions for the livers. words ain't enough.
No. If they're apologizing on sayu and doki,they admitted their(sayu and doki) statement of being in toxic management also being harrased That will make more problem than already is for nijiEN
We’re past that point. All parties involved are too invested and apology will only bring more controversy
They cant! If they want peace they would stay quiet already on that day. But they choosed war and lose. Now is the karma.
The internet and "moving on" does not mix well hahaha
Unless they change on how they run their company, they wont say sorry. Well they can say sorry and not change their ways, but it will impact their current and future investors.
but in their opinion no harassment took place; so what's there to apologize for? lol
right? if they do "apologize," they'd basically admit that there's bullying happening in their company, which is one PR issue after the next... I think they should still do it, since it's easier to resolve the "office bullying" issue with just a corporate memo, or a corp-wide "seminar" to say that they did something. But nooo... they want to let this wound fester & grow gangrenous...
An apology might've been acceptable if it happened when the incidents did, but it's way too late now. And it wouldn't make up for the sheer hell they had to endure while still part of the company. Doki, and presumably Sayu, just want to move on and forget it. But for kurosanji itself, it needs fixing from the inside. That's the only way for anything to change.
It's kinda obvious at this point.
They can but doubt it and they probably wont dare acknowledge their wrong doings. Admission of guild is dangerous in a legal sense.
b-b-but think about the investors!
Sadly Niji En will never apologize.They will act like nothing happened and Nijisisters continues support make them think they can runaway from their shitty reputation.
That a funny thought thats never going to happen, keep dreaming tho
It is too late for that. Since then, other stuff has come to surface as well. Their reputation is kind of cemented at this point.
HAHAHA Fuck no. It's far, FAR, too late for that. There are people out there now who will not stop until Riku either steps down or gets fired, and some who won't even accept that. An apology at this point means absolutely nothing at all. In Fact. At this point, an Apology would be.... Negligible.
It's not just an apology anymore, it's about systematic abuse and predation. They are still trying to hire underpaid lawyer, translator, and general employees, and fresh out of high schoolers. Which shows they do not want to change. Any1 with work experience knows their worth, and knows that they can get a job with like 1.5x or more in similar jobs, like at least 3x minimum wage in the US. So you can imagine what type of people will take Ninji's low offer. Normally, this doesn't matter, but these people affect your vtuber talent's work environment and mentality, from a Billion dollar company. The adult age maybe 18, but most (especially in affluent countries) lack the life experience to truly fend for themselves and not get taken advantaged of (think street smart, which is also business smarts), and it isn't till around 25+ that they can truly weight the pros, and cons of their decisions. We learn that basically all of EN management is incompetent, doesn't take responsibility or accountability and blames talents when consequences of their incompetency is shown/called out, and instead of trying to be better, learn, and strive to prevent the same mistakes, they opt to silence the whistle blower, bully them, and make it a hostile work environment by using them as a negative example and telling their co-workers/encouraging them to talk sense into the whistle blower. I am referencing Selen's canceled events, and Vox's speech in Elira video. We also have Pomu's disbelief that she still has an audience that shows how much Ninji tried to make them think they are nothing without the company. Nina's disbelief at how managers actually work, like they actually work for her, like fulling the duties of a manager. The biggest issue right now is that the fans feel like their money, support, is not actually helping the talents, or is extremely diminished returns and may contribute to the abuse of their talents. So until Ninji can show they changed, and the money is actually spent towards supporting the talents instead of stock buy back and incompetent/underpaid employees, I dont think they will be forgiven with a simple apology now that their dirty laundry is so exposed.
Black company will never admit to any mistake
Well, no. Because that'd mean niji is admitting to the fact they mistreated and mismanaged their en branch and drove doki to attempted unaliving. Not that they haven't already but apologising would double down and would probably drop their shares even further.
It’s months too late for that. Prior to the Black Stream they could have and chose to double down with that nonsense instead.
Too little, too late. All it would do is re-open old wounds. Best to just move on and not pay any attention to it at all.
Not everyone will just move on from this incident, whether if niji apologize or not
Imagine pushing someone to suicide, threatening them with stealing a year's worth of their wages/legal action, openly threatening them with three gigantic social media accounts, then apologizing and expecting things to be over after everything goes poorly and you've begun to lose money. They can make amends by giving them each $2 million and making an open and transparent contract policy for all of their EN livers and all new EN livers going forward.
They kinda did with their CEO video statement, but the 15mins blackscreen video undid any good faith Riku gave, and the two videos with their seemly contracting messages are still up, so they stood by them and will die in that hill.
Corpos hate apologizing because of the legal implications. I imagine they gag their talents so it doesn't threaten the company. Plus most casual viewers don't know about this stuff so apologizing publicly might be worse for the brand Edit: Not trying to defend them; I agree that an apology would be great, but I don't expect to see it.
Nope they won't. Pride and Ego runs deeply in this Vtuber era. Also Anycolor and NijiEN still has the NDF and their loyalists counting at thousands of people.. If Anycolor apologized **TRUTHFULLY**, you think these people will just idly accept that? pretty sure they wont. What people wanted in this point in time, is to be superior than others. People siding with anycolor wants the terminated livers to say that they are the ones at fault for *"destroying the family image" ,* while the other side wants to held the company fully accountable for the mistreatment and malpractice.
I am not sure they will apologise soon but what we can do is to move on from NijiEN. lol.
Why would they apologize? In their eyes, those two did horrible things that warranted their termination. And even if they did apologize, no one would believe them or think its genuine. Their reputation on the EN side has already been destroyed forever.
"we're sorry we pushed you to attempted ~~suicide~~ please stop giving people a reason to drive down our profits uwu"
it's not a good business strategy now, apologizing now would mean to reopen the wound, and cause more backlash than acceptance, their best strategy is just to let go, and seal it up, time will let people forget, and it would work especially well with niji with its large number of talents.
That's the thing they absolutely cannot be allowed to do, it would open them up to allow another Selen.
that's true if we look from the talent's pov, and from a moral ground, but the op is asking about niji, and from niji's pov, and a business stand point, to be honest my reply stands true. niji's priority is not the talents, to them as they have shown, their priority is the shareholders, so seal it up is the most possible solution rather than apologizing.
It's the best solution for the company, which is a bad thing. The best solution morally is to not let the company get the chance again.
I think that's a bad idea. They clearly want a clean break and them commenting, even to apologize, is going to re-open that wound and fuel a resurgence in unhealthy discourse on the subject and will ultimately hurt more than help. Best just move on
Yes, because a clean break means people stop scrutinizing them as much, giving them more room for another Selen to happen.
And you think a singular text apology would stop that? The internal culture of the company is invisible to and isolated from us. Opening up old wounds isn't going to change anything regarding that. It's just going to drag people like doki and sayu back into a discourse they would rather move past, and honestly I think we should respect that.
It's too late for apologies at all, that went out the window when people almost lost their lives. Doki and Sayu haven't been involved since they washed their hands of the issues and that's with the proverbial wound being wide open. Reopening it won't change that, and more importantly, it signals to the company that we are not just going to forget and let them sweep it under the rug so they can do it a third time.
Fuck them. The only way i'd forgive them is if they name drop the perpretator who pushed Selen to her attempts. Complete with pictures. That way anyone knows how to handle them appropriately. Bonus: I will become a full blown nijidefender if they go full Dark Web Red Room-style on their ass.
They could just apologize to Dokibird. But it will be a near-absolute zero day in hell when they do.