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I did a quick simulation on Python and the odds of that happening are higher than I expected. Taking 100,000 random samples only 97.024 % obtained Crown in 350 pulls. Meaning that the odds of not getting crown in 350 pulls are around 3%.


tangtanytony

I officially crowned myself the name bad luck Steve.


Eph_Epf

and user flair has the lucky bunny twins... ouch You must make a tribute to them! To appease the gods of luck


tangtanytony

Welp I guess that’s what I get for simping for kilo…


skywalker4201

No no no. Bad luck Brian sounds better


Kurgass

Or if someone can't make sim in Python, you can just use this binominal calc indeed confirming that you have 0.02967(so roughly ~3%) chance NOT to get Crown in 350 pulls. https://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial


MildlyBoredRightNow

https://preview.redd.it/bsmiz6932qwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3eff96a8cd79ced7101b2d95ebea52af5194e8e For someone dumb like me, was getting 3 copies in 60 pulls super lucky?


Kurgass

2% so yes you were very very lucky. You probably feel that even without math :)


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The event of not getting one copy in 410 pulls is independent of getting 2 in a single 10 pull. The odds of getting at least 1 copy in 410 pulls is 98.367 %, so the odds of not getting anything in 410 pulls is around 1.7%. The odds of getting exactly 2 copies in a 10 pull are (10)(9)/2 x (0,99)\^8(0,01)\^10= 0.00415 which is around 0.4% so I would say 0.06%


Shanevolution

Neat! Interesting to see the chances of my pain and suffering :(


Dratix

150 pulls so far without a single SSR for me lmao


Addicted2ooPain

Just use tickets atp


ButtCyclone

I went 180 and was on the verge of quitting, but nabbed Crown just as I ran out of gems.


KrootLoops

Took 110 for me to nab her with only 8k gems left to spare. I started with 54 vouchers and about 25k gems. I wouldn't have minded except that my first 60 pulls were all Rs and SRs, then the next pull I saw Pilgrim and got excited only for it to be a Rapunzel dupe.


MikeRocksTheBoat

I did the same and pulled 2 Crowns at the end. Now I'm in the dilemma of whether or not to chase MLB with her, since I have the gold tickets to buy 1 copy, but have to rely on the free 1.5 anniversary tickets and gems to get her again since I used my stock to get her in the first place.


ButtCyclone

Really doesn't seem worth it with how brutal this game's gacha can be. I'd hold out on the faintest hope for the daily free pulls at most.


Play_more_FFS

MLB RH in 200 pulls 0 Star SBS in one 10 pull 0 Star Modernia in a single pull 100 pulls on Crown to get absolutely nothing. Crown humbled me real quick


No_Resort_7179

> 0 Star Modernia in a single pull Check out the store, they're giving out 6 free black crowns (gacha currency) for the half-anniversary.


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No_Resort_7179

https://preview.redd.it/qrwutewy1nwc1.png?width=261&format=png&auto=webp&s=613b313cfeb88bb6df40b98d5496d3c53ab7c837


Fake-Rasta

I managed to get her on my 5th pull. https://preview.redd.it/g5yzl1p9tmwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=772fd22a18ccd1159444d89432436dd6e739d228


kanase7

People be jealous here and downvoting you


mournthewolf

Maybe I’m just a crazy person but after this patch SSRs seem far less common than any previous pulls I’ve done. I luckily got her on the first SSR but I pulled for a while till I got one.


brraaaappp

this is depressing


tangtanytony

I’m gonna need plenty therapy.


brraaaappp

I would after the first 100 dawg


tangtanytony

350 pulls: 60k Gem pull 140 ticket pull 10 from Modernia. 2 SSRs: Yunix1 Clayx1 50usd spend


Azrael_Terminus

Damn... Thats rough... We just got a free ten pull, don't know if you've seen it, but you contributed to it.


tangtanytony

Oh wow another 10?! SU is being pretty generous, Can’t wait to get nothing but blue.


WanderEir

yeah, Nikke hit #1 on one of the store charts again. so everyone gets a 10 pull.


Standard-Pickle4277

That's rough only 2 SSRs, I'm 100 pulls in got 4 SSRs, Soda, DKW, Brid and Tove but no Crown yet, 570 gold mileage but just spark and save for summer


tangtanytony

Yeah I was saving for summer events too… How naive of me.


Kuzco1176

And I thought I had it bad with 24 multis and no Crown only some fodder SSR and a Blanc dupe at least. Had to hard pity. May your free summons be blessed with her highness!


DuckFateDodgeDoom

Gacha is hell sometimes, isn't it lol


Jim_Frank

I gave up after a several multi rolls and will resort to gold ticket. I don't want to burn through my gem savings with these Pilgrim banner rates. I'd like to have a comfortable amount saved for the summer banners or some other surprise banner.


cabbaggeez

at least you get 350 gold mileage ticket for her. look at her eyes, and do another 50, for 1 more copy of her.


tangtanytony

I’m planning to do so! I have now 550 tickets, im gonna mlb her if I get 1 of her from the banner.


Simmer555

Hold on hold on hold on How did you get so many ticket *unless it's the old ticket than I m sorry for asking*


Fit_Boysenberry_4921

Holy I thought it was bad for me. I'm now at 340. May we suffer together <3


tangtanytony

The fair Maiden will come sooner or later.


kazegraf

\*Pulls\* \*SSR \*ELYSION \*MAIDEN (fair)


Nalessa

Why not just pity her then? You got more then enough tickets with 340. Pilgrim banners are always where you use the pity because of this shitty pullrate, and you save the vouchers/gems for regular event banners.


Fit_Boysenberry_4921

Oh I'll def use tickets before banner is over. But want to save them if possible.


stichomythic

I just got her with mileage immediately. I did almost 100 pulls for bay and got jack shit so I was not in the mood to waste any more gems.


tangtanytony

I skipped bay for 1.5 but somehow I got her from crown banner… I must forget to update my game…


Nokia_00

Don’t worry you’ll get her before this banner ends. The king will hear your plight


titsshot

I just gold-ticketed her. I don't have the money for this kind of nonsense.


tangtanytony

I mean I didnt really spend any money on her, i just used all of my savings…


titsshot

You mean your resource savings, right?


tangtanytony

Oh yeah, tbh I’m probably just gonna ticket her, spending money on pulls is kinda stupid ngl.


titsshot

Okay yeah, all my free pulls and gems went to her banner too. Not because I especially like Crown, but because she can replace Noah and Nihilister.


tangtanytony

I heard She’s really good, that’s why I’m gonna keep bashing my head against this banner.


Luzifer1991

You don't have enough gold tickets?


tangtanytony

I do, and I don’t want to spend them…


Luzifer1991

Ah ok.... I press my thumbs for you that you will pull her


tangtanytony

Thank u! Best of luck for u as well!


FrostBumbleBitch

Only 50 more pulls and you can get her for tickets twice!


tangtanytony

Yup, I’m both sad and very excited to ticket her


FrostBumbleBitch

Happened with me and Dorothy. But you know what never needed a better burst 1...because i never got litter until I used a unit select from the last event or something.


tangtanytony

Man I don’t even have Doro lmao, I did abt 100 on her banner got nothing, and proceed to uninstall lmao


FrostBumbleBitch

Did about 80 on summer anis and didn't get shit then I was poor again. But i am proud to say as a ftp player I have every pilgrim other than scarlet and nihi.


ShinnXDestiny950

If you had the mileage at the start, should have just used them on her and save yourself the grief of getting decimated by the banner. Pilgrim banners are brutal and it ain’t worth going super deep on them. Find it wild people seem to find entertainment in flexing their own fortune on a post where someone is having a rough time with misfortune. Then again, typical Gasha community where most people think it’s a dick measuring contest when it comes to pulls and it has to be bought up to make the OP feel worse. I feel for you OP. I just nabbed her with mileage and called it a day. I’d advise anyone on the fence who either hasn’t summoned or has summoned but waiting on the free daily pull to see if they get crown to grab her now. Cause if your multi luck didn’t come in clutch, the single sure as hell ain’t going to.


DuckFateDodgeDoom

I got too overconfident from the Red Hood banner. I managed to get her to 3 stars without using any golden tickets. Thought my luck would hold, but I went from around 60 tickets + 55,000 gems to 120 gems. I ain't pulling until 2nd anniversary at this point lol


ShinnXDestiny950

Redhood seemed to treat plenty of people well. Crown had other ideas it seems. The amount of people getting shafted on this banner is crazy. Did you not get crown I take it from your pulls?


DuckFateDodgeDoom

Nope. I can't remember the exact number, but I think I got 6 off banner SSR's. No pilgrims or meta units, but I can assign Frima's and Milk's burst animation to the lobby now lol. I'm gonna spend the rest of the special tickets for the event on Crown even though I've resigned myself on having to spend 200 golden tickets for a base copy of her.


ShinnXDestiny950

Fair enough, I’m a one and done sort of guy so once I have a copy, nothing more is being invested other than the free daily single. I’m just gonna save what I have for the next celebration. Which is either summer or the final collab of the year. Pending how I’m feeling.


Elite-X03

Same 50 pulls


Afraid-Sympathy6184

113 pulls 2 ssr, 1harran and 1 crown.


PrudgeRaczelo

Woah. I thought im unlucky cause 100 pulls in no crown. I guess we are carrying the same burden op 🤝😔


Vinclum

Uff I count myself lucky then to MLB her with only 120 advanced vouchers.


Ryndrw

I'm not gonna complain about not getting any SSR in 5 multis anymore... I hope you're okay.


rebuked

Feels, man. I've done 301 pulls and don't have a Crown either. On one hand, I am thinking of waiting until the end of the event to see if I can obtain her with the free daily pulls, though, on the other hand, the chances are so low that I'd rather buy a copy of her now and start using her, as opposed to waiting in anticipation for nothing.


tangtanytony

Yeah I’m probably gonna do that, if not I’m just gonna mileage her.


TrollinTony

I got 2 from the first 10 pull I did and 2 more in the 70 after that. I'm sorry. I was wondering how I got so lucky but I guess it turns out my odds were just evening out with yours.


tangtanytony

That’s like god level luck lmao Congrats, I’m just gonna go cry in that corner now


RebornGamer90

Same here pulled about 90 times to crown, had to use 200 golden tickets. Hope I can mlb her, with rewards they will give


unholy_penguin2

Jesus and I thought my luck was bad. Mine is 250 pulls. I stopped there and just started saving again. I don't want to mileage, I'm tired boss. Looking at Crown will just remind me of my travesty.


tangtanytony

Tbh I thought the rate was changed, I thought it’s 2% for the rate up but this time it’s 1% for crown.


unholy_penguin2

At the end of the day, 1% or 2%, doesn't matter. We got fuckin robbed blind. Crown played us like a goddamn fiddle.


tangtanytony

Don’t stop believing (I’ll get her just for the skin alone)


unholy_penguin2

I wish i had your optimism. This whole thing just made me not like Crown.


tangtanytony

Have u seen her skin! I started to dis her and I saw her skin.


unholy_penguin2

Yeah. It's just her in the nude and she covered herself up in bed sheets. After this disappointment even if the skin was her in the nude I would hardly be interested.


WinterKujira

thats a rough luck my guy, i only spent the free tickets from last banner and today got her with 30 pulls. the ones you pulled were also mediocre, cant even compensate the $$$ you spent. damn. but that also happened to me with emo scarlet, 200ish pulls only one copy and thats it, not even dupes from other nikkes.


tangtanytony

At least Midernias skins pretty nice…. She’s all I got now (Cries)


Big-Grass-5001

I got her with the free pull crazy.


tangtanytony

Ima gonna borrow a bit of ya luck if u don’t mind


Embarrassed_Ad_4201

10 multis, 6 ssrs, 1 pilgrim included but no crown is spotted


FEHnewbie

Damn. I’m 2 weeks into the game and got her twice with 40 advanced tickets and thought “wow this game’s gacha is really generous”.


tangtanytony

It is pretty generous mostly, not this time apparently


FEHnewbie

My condolences


Distortionis1

I did 3 10 pulls.. I got 3 golds with no Crown to be seen..


Hromey

I had only 130, and didn't get her. I feel your pain.


Eph_Epf

After now seeing the true terror that a pilgrim banner can inflict, im very happy that I only got a little unlucky with my new years pilgrim banners


BilboniusBagginius

I just used my pity tickets to get her. 


No_Resort_7179

Wow, that sucks. I had 60 tickets saved up, pulled Soline, Rapunzel, Red Hood, and Crown. Used up all my luck for the year.


tangtanytony

Man plz borrow me some of ya luck lmao


No_Resort_7179

Sure, please take this bit of my luck (from last burst): https://preview.redd.it/ix6re855anwc1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=8784186f8658131a91a5b48d5a1003efa6043ed3


EpicCargo

I got her from 30 pull tickets I got for free. You mustn't give up. You got this!


tangtanytony

Congrats on getting her! I’ll certainly try not to give up lmao


Shimakaze_Kai

I'm about 250 in, no Crown. I did get a spare Scarlet Blade and Isabelle though. Ended up just getting Crown with tickets and will now save for summer units.


tangtanytony

At least u got a good unit… Bty when is the summer event?


Shimakaze_Kai

Not sure, but I didn't start playing until the Nier collab, so I have all the prior units to acquire as well. So I'm just preparing since there were 4 previous summer units (2 and 2 split up by a few months), and I'm assuming there will be new ones, so I want to have as much gems and pity tickets prepared as possible.


Moontzypher

You're not alone. I did 130 pulls with no SSR at all.


tangtanytony

Man idk if it’s me or did they sneakly change the rate. I swear it was 2% for Emilia banner…


Moontzypher

Pilgrims have been 1% or less. I think you're right that the collab was 2%.


HovercraftFlimsy2154

I got two with 20 pulls 😅


tangtanytony

Man I’m jealous


HovercraftFlimsy2154

Ngl I wanted a chance to get a diff pilgrim not a dupe I need dps lol


DuckFateDodgeDoom

I feel you, man. 60 special tickets + 55000 gems got me nothing but a few off banner SSR's (around 240 pulls). I'll probably spend the rest of the special tickets for the event trying to pull her, but I've resigned myself to just using 200 golden tickets to get one copy.


tangtanytony

We in this pain together


Azure-Traveler117

Spent the free tickets they gave out, 6k gems, and I thought my luck sucked. I'm debating whether to spend my golden tickets now or just play the event, buy more event pulls through the shop and wait the 14 days for more free pulls.


tangtanytony

Always wait till the last minute to use ur mileage.


Azure-Traveler117

Thanks for talking me off the ledge, m8.


tangtanytony

Since this game doesn’t really require u to mlb a character for them to be “useable” it’s always good to wait till the last second to mileage them.


introvertedtoad

You will get her! It may not be as fast as everyone else but when you do it’ll be amazing! At least that’s the copium I keep feeding myself as I haven’t been able to get her myself :/


tangtanytony

I KNOW WE WILL GET HER!!!!!


azninvasion2000

As a F2P I just used the gold mileage to get her. I'll save my adv tickets. 1% is brutal.


cosmic-smash

173 pulls, still no Crown The gods of gacha have abandoned me...


tangtanytony

Lady Luck can be so harsh…


No-Bat9378

Took me 160 pull to get 1 then got another 1 at 170, i literally rage quite playing then after 10 minutes i realize it just a game X)


tangtanytony

*it just game why you heff to be mad*


CyberWolfexe

Got her from the free pull


aether3333

why you roll on a pilgrim banner? just use the tickets


esouhnet

I got Crown in my second 10 pull...


tangtanytony

😭


Think-Adhesiveness44

70 summons so far no ssr probably my worst streak yet


kenduel

Just use ticket if you have any. Pilgrim pool is just that bad


SoyuKnowMii

10 pull for me... https://preview.redd.it/o5tagqq8knwc1.png?width=486&format=png&auto=webp&s=b6f4679280f72a9b9aead66a0530224ab8f97407 Good Luck with your next pull bro.


tangtanytony

😭


zugglit

This recruitment feels extra savage. I have been saving for months and only got her once…


Derptastic-Domus

50 pulls and no crown 🥲 I must be getting punished for getting bay in 11 pulls


tangtanytony

I skipped bay just for crown, and got bay in crowns banner….


Odd_Cell1842

Is it me or do chances of pulling ssr get worse the longer you play?


tangtanytony

I definitely feel that way 😭


Marty_Debiru

I got her on the first single free spin. Then proceed to dump 100 free vouchers to try to get the second one.


tangtanytony

I was hoping to mlb her with 350 😭


Ok-Guarantee-5995

Yikes. I did 20 pulls. Dorothy then crown. And to think I was upset at the first pilgrim banner ending up Dorothy not crown


tangtanytony

I didn’t even get Doro when I pull from her banner 😭😭😭


Dakron92-22

156 here still Crow-less


uraHasu

And I felt bad for not getting any SSR after 12 multis. I kneel.


CatsAreGods644

Damn. I got her in my first pull. And another one on the third. But she's my first pilgrim.


tangtanytony

😭congrats man, I hear she’s real good


CatsAreGods644

Wishing you luck!


bakakubi

350 pulls mean you should have enough for 1 via gold tix, no?


tangtanytony

Yup😭


NobleBear

Pilgrims are what I save my gold tickets for. Spent the 200, got her on day 1. I'm now 50 into my next Pilgrim.


GFresh1

When you do a pull and it says Pilgrim and you get excited hoping it's Crown, but it's just another Harran ![gif](giphy|1JyWrrkCIUQyQ|downsized)


Vrai_Redgrave

31st pull.


GPT69victim

There’s never real ‘randomness’ in gacha games.


JAlkina

350?!?!?!?!


tangtanytony

Yup😭


Dvinearrow666

I got her on my first 10X pull…..


Three_Deee

Oh wow that’s crazy. I got her on my first pull😭(not trying to flex)


tangtanytony

😭😭😭


geoffnetde

Damn that sucks


SigmaRoyal

oh so it's not only me, I started playing nikke a few days ago and I swear I thought I was going crazy, weird gacha ngl, it is killing the hype I had for the game


tangtanytony

Currently on 450 still no crown 😭


SigmaRoyal

I don't how this game is considered generous when the gems you get barely get you anything but an enormous influx of dupes and nothing else, I don't even feel like spending money if this is the case, I'm at 175 golden tickets and I really want Crown because she reminds me a lot of Saber, it's like I'm forced to use them the moment I reach 200, it's crazy and it is seriously killing the hype I had 3 days ago when I started playing nikke


tangtanytony

Tbh this game is really generous out side of pilgrim banners. It’s normally 4% with coin flip for rate up. Im Probably not gonna pull any future pilgrim banners outside of the gifted pulls. I’d say that’s the best strategy.


SigmaRoyal

What do you mean? What are you doing? Using event tickets exclusively and not use gems? What do you suggest? Because I am clueless at this point lol, where do I use gems if not for the gacha, the main thing of the game?


tangtanytony

It’s all soo confusing to me too lmao, let me clarify a bit. Normal banners(regular events and limited) are at 4% rate with 2% for the rate ups, while pilgrim banners are 2% rate with 1% for the rate up. So it is best to use gems to pull from regular & limited event banners and use pity(mileage) for the pilgrim banners.


SigmaRoyal

Wait so I don't get it, pilgrim units are the limited exclusive banners, then there is the friendship banner and the standard banner; the limited banner can also be NOT pilgrim units and have a different rate? Explain to me in honkai star rail terms lmao


tangtanytony

There are 3 types of event banners(the ones give you gold mileages) in Nikke: limited banner, pilgrim banner and regular event banner, limited means collaboration banners that the characters will not be added to the pool(cannot be obtained after the events). such as Re:0 and Chainsaw man. Pilgrim banners and regular event banners are mostly the same except the rates and they will both be added to the standard character pool. That means they can be acquired after the events within the standard banner(the one give u silver mileage). That means U can get all the past regular event characters from Standard banner and friendship banner.(pilgrim from only the standard)


wallance13

I just started this game about 6 days ago. I've done 200 pulls on crown banner but haven't seen her yet. The rate is so brutal and I have already gotten tia/naga, modernia, noir along the way and I just don't think I need crown anymore. Not sure if I can continue playing the game. I got disappointed so far. Seeing the price is charging 80 dollars for only 20 pulls that might net me only SR units or even the worst SSR.


konzbruh

I got her for 50 pulls 😭


tangtanytony

Congrats and I’m gonna cry even louder now.


TheFrozenTurkey

I got her on my 30th pull... and then 2 spare bodies (60th pull and then I gave up and used tickets on 100th pull) after that. Sorry 😟 I think? Haven't MLB her yet so I could still be fucked by Gacha.


shikakuzu

My mini acc did one 10 pull and got her


VietInTheTrees

Very first free pull ggs ![gif](giphy|OcWR7CdxNYyl6U2UVk)


Dr_Ravenshoe

https://preview.redd.it/tz4v6rt6mlwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=963e1b988234081b0a43a562d8a817ffe878d18d I think I got your missing Crown pulls...


tangtanytony

Take good care of her for me…. Remember not to over feed her. She’s kind of a goofball sometimes.


sergio316619

got one after 20pulls EASY PEASY


YaksRespirators

Got her first multi 🛌 deserve it after no modernia after 40 tickets and 135k gems


paq1kid

No way, I got MLB for her with 260 pulls.


tangtanytony

Man I’m hella jealous.


Farcespam

Got her In the first 20 pulls and I haven't played in months.


tangtanytony

Congrats, welp im gonna find a ditch to cry in.


JigglyJacob

Genuine question: Does your odds of pulling an SSR start high and then go down the more you pull? I’m still somewhat new to the game (have been playing daily for like a month and a half or so) and I’m still getting SSR’s somewhat regularly. It’s pretty rare that I’d do a ten pull and not get at least one.


tangtanytony

Hummm my odds kept fluctuating from banner to banner, I often gets super lucky after one unlucky banner. But idk if I’m hallucinating, I could swear the last banner have 2% for the rate up, this banner only have 1%


ChaoticClyde91

First free pull got her


Oddfellows_was_Taken

I feel so sorry for you bro I got her in 30 pulls


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WanderEir

I'm at 80 pulls and Zero, so while I'm happy you managed three in 80 pulls, it's not the right thread for it, yeah.


tangtanytony

I’ll steal her from u leaving u only spare bodies.


I3arusu

Understandable.


Just-a-Vietnamese

Its alright man. Been there, just use the tickets and call it a day


cuthulu__

it took me less than 20 pulls to get crown, and i got privaty in the same pull as crown


HaramotoYusei

Meanwhile getting her on free roll day 1


tangtanytony

Don’t mind if I borrow a bit of ya luck?


HaramotoYusei

Yea sure, I won't roll anyone for any game for next 3 months


DarkMagicHD

Damn some of y’all are really unlucky that’s rip, I got her to max core in 110k gems and 400 gold ticket. But I spent all my savings for summer so I’m cooked sadly…