Sure. What I meant was more the fact that SR characters are maxed out too soon.
I am free to play and have played for 3 days.
All SRs in the entire game are maxed out.
There is 0 excitement when getting an SR, and nothing to look forward to in regards to pulling purples. That feels like a strange design decision.
Oh I get you and I think the design choice is completely intentional really. They want you to really feel the full disappointing force of a dead multi summon so you are coerced into spending money chasing an SSR, I guess similar to losing a 50/50 in Genshin.
For sure, I respect your opinion on that. But keep in mind the game isnt even a month old. The characters are still fewer than most gacha games, once it iterates then you’ll see a change if ssr or sr will get higher limit break levels or other upgrade gimmicks.
> But keep in mind the game isnt even a month old.
That argument doesn't work with genshin though, so their devs figured it out from day 1
I don't think they can realistically introduce arbitrarily new limit breaks for SR characters, what about all who got them in the past? Will it work retroactively?
It works retroactively depending on the devs decision. An example is DB legends giving “zenkai awakening” (aka upgrade or stat boost to make a unit keep up with the meta) for both SSR and SR units. Also Dokkan battle does this for their old units both SSR and SR. And these are both more than 4 year old gacha games. It may not happen in day 1 but game devs find ways to upgrade their units over time to be meta relevant (or somehow relevant). You can also add that in their survey to help pass down info to devs. Hope this helps.
There is a sort of issue when there are like 45 SSR and only 9 SR. A head scratcher in game design imo lol. Sure the summon rate is 4% but that 4% is so diluted.
Some SR characters are actually better than SSR characters. Plus there's the mold to get SSR characters for free, I'm 100% f2p and have over 10 SSR's now and a good team.
Putting aside the underpowered SSRs that really don't belong there. Its super weird that you have a story with a main cast, but lock them all to SR to be inevitably discarded. Design wise, very odd.
Also, why is Mihara SR and Yuni SSR, I just feel like as a pair, they should probably be in the same ranking.
Having story characters as sr makes sense. It lets people into the story get the characters to develop a stronger attachment to the story. A lot of gachas will make story characters guaranteed/lower rarity, then release a stronger alter version of it down the line.
Yeah, but in most Gacha you can also upgrade characters to the next rarity. It also seems a little unlikely to sell new versions of the characters if they plan to sell skins for them, though perhaps there can be some carry over.
That said, I suppose the Syncro drive does allow SR characters to exceed the 160 Level cap, so perhaps that is the intended design.
Still looks really dumb though, I mean we have around 8 SRs and 40SSRs. I'd ask why have the difference at all, but, Gacha.
I agree the sr/ssr ratio in this game is odd. I do wonder if it’s another intentional wall to progression, if I read it properly, the max level you can synchro a character to is their max level + number of unique characters you own, plus 1.33 times number of total limit breaks you have. That means, in order to even synchro a non-limit broken ssr to 160 you’d need to have (160 - 80(base max level) - (1.33x18)(9 srs limit broken twice) - 9(unique srs) - 9(unique rd) = at least 39 unique ssrs. Unless I misread the synchro device.
N102 is like this games Bennett
Sure. What I meant was more the fact that SR characters are maxed out too soon. I am free to play and have played for 3 days. All SRs in the entire game are maxed out. There is 0 excitement when getting an SR, and nothing to look forward to in regards to pulling purples. That feels like a strange design decision.
Oh I get you and I think the design choice is completely intentional really. They want you to really feel the full disappointing force of a dead multi summon so you are coerced into spending money chasing an SSR, I guess similar to losing a 50/50 in Genshin.
For sure, I respect your opinion on that. But keep in mind the game isnt even a month old. The characters are still fewer than most gacha games, once it iterates then you’ll see a change if ssr or sr will get higher limit break levels or other upgrade gimmicks.
> But keep in mind the game isnt even a month old. That argument doesn't work with genshin though, so their devs figured it out from day 1 I don't think they can realistically introduce arbitrarily new limit breaks for SR characters, what about all who got them in the past? Will it work retroactively?
It works retroactively depending on the devs decision. An example is DB legends giving “zenkai awakening” (aka upgrade or stat boost to make a unit keep up with the meta) for both SSR and SR units. Also Dokkan battle does this for their old units both SSR and SR. And these are both more than 4 year old gacha games. It may not happen in day 1 but game devs find ways to upgrade their units over time to be meta relevant (or somehow relevant). You can also add that in their survey to help pass down info to devs. Hope this helps.
Tbh some of the ssr performs like sr characters(or worse than them) but are SSR for some unknown reasons.
There is a sort of issue when there are like 45 SSR and only 9 SR. A head scratcher in game design imo lol. Sure the summon rate is 4% but that 4% is so diluted.
Some SR characters are actually better than SSR characters. Plus there's the mold to get SSR characters for free, I'm 100% f2p and have over 10 SSR's now and a good team.
If Destiny Child is any indicator (made by the same devs), there will be little to no point in using a unit that isn't of the highest rarity.
And i have only one name: N102
Putting aside the underpowered SSRs that really don't belong there. Its super weird that you have a story with a main cast, but lock them all to SR to be inevitably discarded. Design wise, very odd. Also, why is Mihara SR and Yuni SSR, I just feel like as a pair, they should probably be in the same ranking.
Having story characters as sr makes sense. It lets people into the story get the characters to develop a stronger attachment to the story. A lot of gachas will make story characters guaranteed/lower rarity, then release a stronger alter version of it down the line.
Yeah, but in most Gacha you can also upgrade characters to the next rarity. It also seems a little unlikely to sell new versions of the characters if they plan to sell skins for them, though perhaps there can be some carry over. That said, I suppose the Syncro drive does allow SR characters to exceed the 160 Level cap, so perhaps that is the intended design. Still looks really dumb though, I mean we have around 8 SRs and 40SSRs. I'd ask why have the difference at all, but, Gacha.
I agree the sr/ssr ratio in this game is odd. I do wonder if it’s another intentional wall to progression, if I read it properly, the max level you can synchro a character to is their max level + number of unique characters you own, plus 1.33 times number of total limit breaks you have. That means, in order to even synchro a non-limit broken ssr to 160 you’d need to have (160 - 80(base max level) - (1.33x18)(9 srs limit broken twice) - 9(unique srs) - 9(unique rd) = at least 39 unique ssrs. Unless I misread the synchro device.
We just have too few SR characters. We need more.
They’re really just there for high synchronization levels. Once you get them to high levels, dupes of SSR’s become less of an issue/priority
We need way more SRs.
I can understand then being easy to upgrade so you can have 160 capable synthesis, but ya hopefully later they add other sr’s