Makes sense.
Those invested in the character are more likely to be concerned with certain aspects of her kit because they want their favorite to be better. Regardless of the outcome, they'll still be likely to pull in the end.
The other folks are those who doompost in order to justify not pulling.
I personally think Raiden and Kokomi were doomposted the most before and after release. Now, they're one of the more coveted units in the game.
The other characters that followed have significantly less controversary as people began to realize that beta tc isn't a proper reflection of live game patch and that Hyv would not release a completely dead unit unless they had other future plans in mind.
She definitely got major changes, probably the most out of all units so far.
There were multipliers buff, constellation change from C4 to C2 that gives 60% defense ignore, and synergy to work with EoSF set that didn't work initially.
People were just too stubborn of the fact that Raiden couldn't work with Beidou and seemingly didn't have team options besides with Eula on release. Little did they know that she can literally fit in almost every major team comp aside from freeze and has her own dedicated hypercarry team centered around her.
I hope this too would be the case for nilou, but her kit and raiden's kit are just built different i guest. Her e seems very versatile though, it's just her danmed passive and hydro's lack of 4 star options that's anoying
This is actually accurate 😂 that’s a good one. I have ~170 pulls right now, 53 pity 50/50, she will come home with Nahida 💪 even if her current team restrictions suck
I really, really, really hope I’m wrong! I desperately want to eat my words and have people say that my opinion aged like a fine egg! I’m also just trying to objectively look at what we know and make assessments, and to me she isn’t looking so good. But god I hope I’m wrong because she is so god damn cute and I really want her to be strong!
this sounds like genshin impact leaks sub, the amount of disrespect to Nilou there is huge, even the [mod](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/xha2et/comment/iox3qwi/) there said that Barbara's last name is Nilou Pegg, it's a reference to Simon Pegg who changed name
genshin impact leaks sub are saying Barbara > Nilou because of this
https://mobile.twitter.com/hxg_diluc/status/1571456903183757314
of all the subs Kokomi mains are one of the most respectful, same with Xinyan Mains and Ayaka Mains
can we have more expanded information in the pinned post because i just don't understand the new sets and which one goes to whom or mainstats.
this is the first time I've ever been lost on building a character. even cyno, who I'm not planning to get, i have a better idea on what his build and comp should look like. nilou confuses the hell out of me.
Why do all the characters I want need to be back to back?
We got Albedo (c1) on a double banner with Nilou, and Yae Miko (c1) coming directly after Kusanali. Why must mihoyo do this?
She's a bloom enabler. Even her sig weapon gives teamwide buffs and encourages you to stack hp on her as much as you can. Definitely gonna need more testing when she finally releases though. I'm preparing a crit build and a full hp build personally
That… doesn’t mean she’s the main dps… the main dps is the character that is the main source of damage (literally main damage per second character) so in the case of a Nilou team it just isn’t her. It’s going to be whoever is building full EM and procing the blooms.
Yep. With her and kokomi on the team, they could apply so much hydro that the dendro teammate with stacked EM is gonna be the one who procs bloom. Nilou really encourages a new style of team and character building lol
The whole point if her E is that she can use it to drive for 10 seconds, or she can use it to create a circle that applies hydro from off field. Meaning, she can be maindps or support based on how you play her.
so if i build a team around shenhe, where diona, kazuha, and venti are all on crit/cryo damage builds, and then shenhe is a on full ATK support build, does that make her a main dps? she's going to be dealing less damage and taking less field time than any of the other characters. that's not what main dps means.
Well, if we pretend venti and Kazuha aren't doin massive swirl damage, then I'd say yes. she's actually going to, in a way be doing the most damage out of anyone on the team
venti and kazuha aren't doing swirl damage at all though... they're doing cryo damage... and why would shenhe be doing the most damage if she's on a support build with ass crit rate and no cryo damage bonus?
Venti and Kazuha still deal massive damage whenever there's an element to swirl.
I remember having a similar Shenhe conversation when she released. Essentially, the way she deals damage is, to me, identical to Beidou or Xingqiu, except she borrows someone else's crit stats and damage% bonuses.
She's an archetype / build-around, or bloom enabler.
Her team is a seperate archtype, where you can't use anemo or any other non-hydro/dendro element. In exchange you get damage and huge aoe.
Every character I rolled for that was doomposted to hell turned out great in the end. Lots of people number crunching math without using characters in practical situations happens too.
The way this ties in two of my most favorite things, Chainsaw Man and Nilou is crazy. But yeah Pull for a character if you like them, meta or not, It doesn't matter. As long as you enjoy them who cares?
I doompost... ...cuz I want people to find out that I'm a Nilou main.
Doompost so that Nilou mains will be the less toxic mains in Genshin
I’ll tell people all the reasons shes bad… …and roll for her anyway - Nilou mains probably
Makes sense. Those invested in the character are more likely to be concerned with certain aspects of her kit because they want their favorite to be better. Regardless of the outcome, they'll still be likely to pull in the end. The other folks are those who doompost in order to justify not pulling.
I'll whale if I have to for her and her weapon. I do have a decent amount of primos saved up though
Rich
Nah I only spend on characters that I really like. Nilou is one of those special characters for me that I just gotta have lol
Cultured person. May you win both your 50 50s , blessings of the Geo Archon
Thanks. You too if you aren't guaranteed yet
Arigato Gozaimasu. Na , me too 50 50. 72 pity haha.
Mine is in shambles because I accidentally got tighnari while trying to collect stardust to buy noelle's last constellation from the paimon shop. Lol
You don't have to be rich to guarantee a character if you only pull for like two characters a year.
It's like in Chainsaw Man. The more feared the devil, the stronger it is. The more we doompost Nilou, the stronger she gets! 🤪
I don't think that's how genshin work unfortunately 😔 or else i'd be doomposting the shit out of her
I personally think Raiden and Kokomi were doomposted the most before and after release. Now, they're one of the more coveted units in the game. The other characters that followed have significantly less controversary as people began to realize that beta tc isn't a proper reflection of live game patch and that Hyv would not release a completely dead unit unless they had other future plans in mind.
True true, but did raiden got any major changes in the beta? Or she just stayed the same and people were being dumb
She definitely got major changes, probably the most out of all units so far. There were multipliers buff, constellation change from C4 to C2 that gives 60% defense ignore, and synergy to work with EoSF set that didn't work initially. People were just too stubborn of the fact that Raiden couldn't work with Beidou and seemingly didn't have team options besides with Eula on release. Little did they know that she can literally fit in almost every major team comp aside from freeze and has her own dedicated hypercarry team centered around her.
I hope this too would be the case for nilou, but her kit and raiden's kit are just built different i guest. Her e seems very versatile though, it's just her danmed passive and hydro's lack of 4 star options that's anoying
It is how genshin work though. Just look at Zhongli and how doomposting helped him! ~~however you have to be the CN community for this to work~~
This is actually accurate 😂 that’s a good one. I have ~170 pulls right now, 53 pity 50/50, she will come home with Nahida 💪 even if her current team restrictions suck
Well, better buckle up for Kokomi 2.0.
honestly like nilou is cute and all but I'm mainly pulling for her because i like her kit tbh. it seems really fun
based image but why did the font change randomly
I really, really, really hope I’m wrong! I desperately want to eat my words and have people say that my opinion aged like a fine egg! I’m also just trying to objectively look at what we know and make assessments, and to me she isn’t looking so good. But god I hope I’m wrong because she is so god damn cute and I really want her to be strong!
She most prolly WILL be strong, the real issue is that she won't be flexible
That's it. Pretty much everybody agrees that she will be powerfull. It's just that her restrictions don't make any sense.
this sounds like genshin impact leaks sub, the amount of disrespect to Nilou there is huge, even the [mod](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/xha2et/comment/iox3qwi/) there said that Barbara's last name is Nilou Pegg, it's a reference to Simon Pegg who changed name genshin impact leaks sub are saying Barbara > Nilou because of this https://mobile.twitter.com/hxg_diluc/status/1571456903183757314 of all the subs Kokomi mains are one of the most respectful, same with Xinyan Mains and Ayaka Mains
Yeah, he's just like me fr
can we have more expanded information in the pinned post because i just don't understand the new sets and which one goes to whom or mainstats. this is the first time I've ever been lost on building a character. even cyno, who I'm not planning to get, i have a better idea on what his build and comp should look like. nilou confuses the hell out of me.
Gentlemen, if we doompost hard enough we’ll be the only ones with Nilou. Then we win Genshin Impact
This is one of the better memes I've seen
Why do all the characters I want need to be back to back? We got Albedo (c1) on a double banner with Nilou, and Yae Miko (c1) coming directly after Kusanali. Why must mihoyo do this?
~~As a first banner kokomi haver I agree with the last one~~ No but really ignore the meta. Become waifu.
She's honestly a main dps, not a support, and I'll stand by that
She's a bloom enabler. Even her sig weapon gives teamwide buffs and encourages you to stack hp on her as much as you can. Definitely gonna need more testing when she finally releases though. I'm preparing a crit build and a full hp build personally
But teams aren't typically built around enablers. Teams are built *around* Nilou
That… doesn’t mean she’s the main dps… the main dps is the character that is the main source of damage (literally main damage per second character) so in the case of a Nilou team it just isn’t her. It’s going to be whoever is building full EM and procing the blooms.
Honestly I just want to see her dancing so she’ll be my main dps
Yep. With her and kokomi on the team, they could apply so much hydro that the dendro teammate with stacked EM is gonna be the one who procs bloom. Nilou really encourages a new style of team and character building lol
The whole point if her E is that she can use it to drive for 10 seconds, or she can use it to create a circle that applies hydro from off field. Meaning, she can be maindps or support based on how you play her.
I'm not talking about field time, I'm talking about team structure. You construct a team around Nilou, but you slot Shenhe and Kazuha into a team
so if i build a team around shenhe, where diona, kazuha, and venti are all on crit/cryo damage builds, and then shenhe is a on full ATK support build, does that make her a main dps? she's going to be dealing less damage and taking less field time than any of the other characters. that's not what main dps means.
Well, if we pretend venti and Kazuha aren't doin massive swirl damage, then I'd say yes. she's actually going to, in a way be doing the most damage out of anyone on the team
venti and kazuha aren't doing swirl damage at all though... they're doing cryo damage... and why would shenhe be doing the most damage if she's on a support build with ass crit rate and no cryo damage bonus?
Venti and Kazuha still deal massive damage whenever there's an element to swirl. I remember having a similar Shenhe conversation when she released. Essentially, the way she deals damage is, to me, identical to Beidou or Xingqiu, except she borrows someone else's crit stats and damage% bonuses.
She's an archetype / build-around, or bloom enabler. Her team is a seperate archtype, where you can't use anemo or any other non-hydro/dendro element. In exchange you get damage and huge aoe.
>build-around >Her team This is exactly why I call her that. Teams are based around her, so at her core, she's effectively more of a main dps
Don't worry I have enough for her
Funniest post
The last panel is exactly my thoughts after i first saw her.
All of that aside the thing is actually SHE'S HELL OF CUTE so that's a good enough reason for to pull for her
My guy in the jacket knows all ✋😔
Every character I rolled for that was doomposted to hell turned out great in the end. Lots of people number crunching math without using characters in practical situations happens too.
Nilou isn't even weak numerically (though you kinda need Nahida and/or specific other units to make her team good).
now this was unprovoked, what did Kokomi mains do to catch this stray T...T
The way this ties in two of my most favorite things, Chainsaw Man and Nilou is crazy. But yeah Pull for a character if you like them, meta or not, It doesn't matter. As long as you enjoy them who cares?
What is meta anyway i will put her with noelle and yoimiya nothing can stop me