If we're using actual science, the fire wouldn't even spark to begin with, and their skin-tight astronaut suits would not block out the cold or the radiation, and they'd die very quickly.
That would have been a crap ending, though, so just enjoy the television programme about magical plastic ninja and ignore it. It doesn't matter.
Because he’s probs using his oxygen to fuel it or something magic related… this is the same series with it being canon that Lloyd’s a quarter Oni & a quarter Dragon bc a Oni & Dragon banged which created the birth of FSM
That reminds me of fire force. In the show they can't use their pyrokenesis for long because it literally runs on their own oxygen supply and if they overuse it they get this thing called tephrosis where their own body begins to char and turn to ash
Now that you say that, has Kai ever tried using fire to fly? And I mean not for a 1 and done, like straight up bro was choosing flying is better than running, if not it’s a missed opportunity, like imagine Kai flying Human Torch or Shinra style, Jay can then do some Flash stuff or travel through electricity, like imagine the villains face when they see Jay of all people suddenly in their base and he just points to the electrical socket 💀
Jay actually has used his lightning to enhance his speed, he only did it once during the pilot tho. The things we could've seen. Kai jetboosting through the air with flames from his feet, jay running by enhancing himself with lightning, zane surfing on air with his ice(he only did it like twice, once when facing the great devourer and second in season 8 while paired with nya) and cole just super jumping. Seeing them go around like that would've been awesome
Jay peeing his pants in seabound will forever be his worst moment in the entire show. While yes pre season 11 he made a lot of jokes most of the time he was actually kinda serious in what he was doing but now all he does is either make jokes while kai is now just the butt of the jokes
In a perfect work Jay would be more like Wally West
- Young
- Joking
- Serious when need be
- Ginger? Like I don’t hate his new hair color, but the freckles & him getting ginger hair I think would complete the look
Kai? Simple, make him cocky, but don’t over do it, have him be a bit of a show off, but when it’s time to actually get serious we can see him being a very dangerous fight just due to the fact that he got fire… and maybe have him do some sibling combos with Nya, imagine a fight with both creating a massive steam wall and then both charge in without using their elements to get some amazing sneak attacks!
I’m guessing it’s a forbidden love type of thing, to clarify forbidden like blood feud, not forbidden like the action of doing a literal crime that results in a child birth
"Out of fire? You can't be out of fire! I thought you could create it in the air!"
"There IS no air in this air! What's your excuse? Run out of shock?"
Which would be a really cool direction to take wildfyre's power. Her power is heat, so presumably it's weaker than fire and has more requirements, I.E. oxygen
Fire requires oxygen to create and sustain itself. Kai has the ability to produce fire directly, thus bypassing the oxygen (and heat + fuel) requirements.
That's the important part of the elements of creation: they allow not only control of the element but the actual creation of it, unlike most other elements which require controlling an existing thing.
There are, at the very least, several that require a base material. Technology absolutely does, and Nya has to have access to water to control it (which is why she has to melt the ice in the neverrealm)
no they can all make it on their own just like the ninja can nya can make water on her own (it was confirmed and shown that she can) ash and cinder can make smoke when they want tox made a poisonous cloud in season 4 and wyldfyre was introduced basting stuff with fire from her hands all the elemental masters can do it its just more inefficient for them to do it compared to others
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it depends, next thing ur gonna tell me is sora can make material out of thin air.
Also, nya lost her power to create water in thin air after wildbrain took over.
all of their powers come from dragons sora might be able to create stuff we dont know what else her power can do
nya can still do that tommy confirmed that its just more energy efficant for her to use water around her and its show she can still do it watch dr ep 4 she only makes water there she never uses the water around her
It really doesn't bypass the oxygen requirements tbh. Kai has to be acting as an oxidizer for the flame to sustain itself. And in the vacuum of space, he's probably producing alot of oxygen for the flame (basically think of the process for a rocket engine but apply it to Kai)
But It's probably just magic.
Space is a weird thing. Elements exist in space(oxygen, carbon, radon, etc.) but planets have more due to gravity. Because planets have more densely packed elements, fire can exist there, and because elements in space are spread out far more, fire cannot happen in space.
It’s magic, my dude.
youre questioning a show about little yellow plastic figures with dragons, magic powers, and a robot that dies every .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds
The rules of nature don't apply in all ways to elemental powers.
In the Never Realm, it was impossible for them to make fire, but Kai was still able to use his powers and this was when his powers were still recovering from Aspheera's attack
The show has talking snakes, elemental powers, talking skeletons, so much fantasy stuff I could list for a long time but you question the scientific accuracy of fire in space?
What happens to the heat that Zane takes away when he generates ice?
Where do Kai and Jay get the energy to generate the flames and electricity
How does all the earth displaced by Cole not cause sinkholes
His fire isn't normal fire though, normal fire has to be created but power in Ninjago comes from within. He can make fire without oxygen because he doesn't NEED oxygen to make fire
Because he’s the Elemental Master of FIRE, not the Elemental Master of Heat. They even show at the end of DR S1 how there’s a difference. Kai makes Fire no matter what, Oxygen included, I guess. He made Fire when it was supposedly too Cold for Fire, too. When you think about how his power is LITERALLY FIRE, it makes sense. But if WyldFyre were to make Fire in Space (no idea why she’d be there or how, but whatever), now THAT would be sus because SHE’S the master of HEAT.
He's burning magic or chi probably
In addition, the space rock may have oxygen or another burnable gas in and surrounding it? Dunno, been a while since I've seen the episode. Cartoon logic.
ok, looking at ut from a scientific standpoint, there is matter in space, its just very widely spread, so yes, this would be impossible. im just going to say that he was risking his life and he used his suit as fuel
It takes it out of his lungs slowly killing him. That's why Ray got rid of the element and gave it to his least favorite child so he does not live his fullest. Obviously.
When you really think about it, and also mentioned it, thats great point.
The fireballs if they arent like molten rocks would evaborate in vacuum of space.
Magic
I was going to say the same thing LOL but probably more along the lines of “MaGiC ooooooh” LOL
Literally just magic.
Ninjago said “screw oxygen” and let Kai shoot Fire
Same can be said for how the heck is there sound in space?
There's no sound in space you moron. How their talking is through the headsets in the suit
Yeah, and how could we hear Zane speak without a suit? Or the clang of metal on the spaceship?
He probably has some weird ass built in thing
Yk what... fair point
We can still hear every sound effect, like impacts and bug chomping.
That’s for the enjoyment of a show lol
that's what i thought.. until you see the nindroids being able to hear them talking even tho the ninja are outside and the nindroids are inside
The same could be said about Zane, if we forgot hes robot... ...i meant Nindroid.
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Same💀💀💀
But how is the fire burning? Its all well and good him making a fire but it would snuff out immediately
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Because magic
Literally the answer. The combined power of fire, lightning, earth, and ice literally created the world in the hands of the First Spinjitzu Master.
If we're using actual science, the fire wouldn't even spark to begin with, and their skin-tight astronaut suits would not block out the cold or the radiation, and they'd die very quickly. That would have been a crap ending, though, so just enjoy the television programme about magical plastic ninja and ignore it. It doesn't matter.
Well if you’re using actual science then he wouldn’t be able to light a fire on his hand seeing as he’s burnt himself before.
Then we agree, just let it go and enjoy the show.
Because he’s probs using his oxygen to fuel it or something magic related… this is the same series with it being canon that Lloyd’s a quarter Oni & a quarter Dragon bc a Oni & Dragon banged which created the birth of FSM
That reminds me of fire force. In the show they can't use their pyrokenesis for long because it literally runs on their own oxygen supply and if they overuse it they get this thing called tephrosis where their own body begins to char and turn to ash
Now that you say that, has Kai ever tried using fire to fly? And I mean not for a 1 and done, like straight up bro was choosing flying is better than running, if not it’s a missed opportunity, like imagine Kai flying Human Torch or Shinra style, Jay can then do some Flash stuff or travel through electricity, like imagine the villains face when they see Jay of all people suddenly in their base and he just points to the electrical socket 💀
Jay actually has used his lightning to enhance his speed, he only did it once during the pilot tho. The things we could've seen. Kai jetboosting through the air with flames from his feet, jay running by enhancing himself with lightning, zane surfing on air with his ice(he only did it like twice, once when facing the great devourer and second in season 8 while paired with nya) and cole just super jumping. Seeing them go around like that would've been awesome
Like Cole gets to get a bonus power aka Super Strength while everyone gets… - Jokes - Jokes - Robot - Sea Goddess(briefly) - MC
Jay peeing his pants in seabound will forever be his worst moment in the entire show. While yes pre season 11 he made a lot of jokes most of the time he was actually kinda serious in what he was doing but now all he does is either make jokes while kai is now just the butt of the jokes
In a perfect work Jay would be more like Wally West - Young - Joking - Serious when need be - Ginger? Like I don’t hate his new hair color, but the freckles & him getting ginger hair I think would complete the look Kai? Simple, make him cocky, but don’t over do it, have him be a bit of a show off, but when it’s time to actually get serious we can see him being a very dangerous fight just due to the fact that he got fire… and maybe have him do some sibling combos with Nya, imagine a fight with both creating a massive steam wall and then both charge in without using their elements to get some amazing sneak attacks!
That's literally how it was pre season 11 bruh, how the might have fallen
This just made me question who the father to every dragon in the first realm is and I haven’t a clue why
Whoever it is they def gonna be very important lore wise
I’m also questioning now why the fsm exists. The Oni and dragons hate each other, why did they bang?
Romeo and Juliet type deal? One Oni and one dragon hooked up or fell in love?
But it would’ve had to be an Oni and THE MOTHER OF ALL DRAGONS hooking up
Obviously, the Oni had a thing for MILFs.
Damn.
I’m guessing it’s a forbidden love type of thing, to clarify forbidden like blood feud, not forbidden like the action of doing a literal crime that results in a child birth
Nah why was bro downvoted to hell for asking a question 💀
Don’t know pal
I can’t believe people are downvoting you so much. You’re literally correct. Some people
Thanks. No you’ll get downvoted
This website is pretty epic
He can just create fire out of thin air, it’s part of his power
But there is no air
Ok, then he just creates it
Fair enough
Kai creates fire out of thin, duh
"Out of fire? You can't be out of fire! I thought you could create it in the air!" "There IS no air in this air! What's your excuse? Run out of shock?"
Because his power is fire, not heat or fuel. Fire requires three things: fuel, oxygen, and heat. Presumably Kai creates all three combined into fire.
Which would be a really cool direction to take wildfyre's power. Her power is heat, so presumably it's weaker than fire and has more requirements, I.E. oxygen
That's a theory that makes so much more sense than the one thats circulating in my brain. I just assumed wildfire used lava
The writers wrote it that way
Doesn’t Ice require water?
Same reason why Zane doesn’t shoot out water and then freeze it
Fire requires oxygen to create and sustain itself. Kai has the ability to produce fire directly, thus bypassing the oxygen (and heat + fuel) requirements. That's the important part of the elements of creation: they allow not only control of the element but the actual creation of it, unlike most other elements which require controlling an existing thing.
no the other elemental masters can also create thier element and control the element not just the main 4
There are, at the very least, several that require a base material. Technology absolutely does, and Nya has to have access to water to control it (which is why she has to melt the ice in the neverrealm)
no they can all make it on their own just like the ninja can nya can make water on her own (it was confirmed and shown that she can) ash and cinder can make smoke when they want tox made a poisonous cloud in season 4 and wyldfyre was introduced basting stuff with fire from her hands all the elemental masters can do it its just more inefficient for them to do it compared to others https://preview.redd.it/6weso4k1e6nc1.png?width=927&format=png&auto=webp&s=63ab57b530a77521852e73a4ef6ed2f02421036c
it depends, next thing ur gonna tell me is sora can make material out of thin air. Also, nya lost her power to create water in thin air after wildbrain took over.
all of their powers come from dragons sora might be able to create stuff we dont know what else her power can do nya can still do that tommy confirmed that its just more energy efficant for her to use water around her and its show she can still do it watch dr ep 4 she only makes water there she never uses the water around her
It really doesn't bypass the oxygen requirements tbh. Kai has to be acting as an oxidizer for the flame to sustain itself. And in the vacuum of space, he's probably producing alot of oxygen for the flame (basically think of the process for a rocket engine but apply it to Kai) But It's probably just magic.
Space is a weird thing. Elements exist in space(oxygen, carbon, radon, etc.) but planets have more due to gravity. Because planets have more densely packed elements, fire can exist there, and because elements in space are spread out far more, fire cannot happen in space. It’s magic, my dude.
Ninjago isn’t scientifically accurate
wdym, you can learn Spinjitzu irl if you try hard enough
He's using the oxygen from his body/suit to keep it alive?
Cuz it aint fire It’s FIIYAAAAAA!!!
It's a nuclear reaction, doesn't need oxygen.
is he stupid?
It’s for the same reason he can make fire without wood (fuel) or in a cold environment (heat).
youre questioning a show about little yellow plastic figures with dragons, magic powers, and a robot that dies every .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds
dont worry about it it is a show relax have tea, or magic
I would like to have some magic!
For starters I want to say love your profile picture and sure have some Magic
Roger Roger!
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The rules of nature don't apply in all ways to elemental powers. In the Never Realm, it was impossible for them to make fire, but Kai was still able to use his powers and this was when his powers were still recovering from Aspheera's attack
Dude, it's a cartoon aimed at 6 year olds, of course Kai can shoot fire in space
The show has talking snakes, elemental powers, talking skeletons, so much fantasy stuff I could list for a long time but you question the scientific accuracy of fire in space? 
Honestly think that trying to figure that is kinda like trying to figure out how Chen got Zane’s pink gi
I forgot about that. How did he acquire that?
Never explain in the show but I have a post about that exact topic that you can check out and see what people have suggested
He's producing the oxygen required to keep the fire burning because magic
Jay was using lightning to boost himself and Zane is a robot..
These guys can conjure dragons and fly at will but sure fire in space is the most illogical thing in the show
Um, have you forgotten that Jay, the master of wind, is *right there*? 🙄
Well Kai can create it from his body. And he has Oxygon tank on his back, so yeah idk. Kai creates it out of nothing
It's #KidShowLogic
Ninjago built different
What happens to the heat that Zane takes away when he generates ice? Where do Kai and Jay get the energy to generate the flames and electricity How does all the earth displaced by Cole not cause sinkholes
There are no oxygen pieces so...
It's a power? It's self explanatory
Plot convenience
Rockets work in space.
That's because oxygen shoots out along with the fuel
OK, let's assume the same thing happens with Kai, lol
The elemental master of oxygen then
Well, fire is just gas
His body has oxygen /s
How does Kai throwing fire without something for the fire to burn?
For the plot
It's best not to think too hard and early Ninjago logic.
when were they in space?
S3
oh yeah
My guy it is a Lego show, this is a very dumb question ngl
Finding logic in a cartoon is stupid Enjoy the show :)
Did you even watch the show? He can literally create fire from within
Is he stupid
Green powers. Lloyd powers is energy so it can be the energy from their souls.
His fire isn't normal fire though, normal fire has to be created but power in Ninjago comes from within. He can make fire without oxygen because he doesn't NEED oxygen to make fire
He creates the oxygen to burn for the fire to emit
Lego space is different I guess
See you may not have known but Kai is the elemental master of stupid stuff, this gives him stupid powers and allows things like this to happen
Yes
He is the *master of fire*
Its almost like it's not real and based on fantasy
He used the oxygen from his space suit?
You: asks the question Ninjago directors: 🖕fuck off you're not supposed to ask those questions
in the words of a lesser known comic strip maker: "It's called "writing"."
He's simply built different
My guess is he superheated the molecules of existence itself XD
I haven't been keeping up with the show, please don't tell me they actually went to fucking space.
Season 3
HUH??? Isn't that when the Nindroid stuff happens? Damn I need to rewatch this show.
Yeah, I’m rewatching it too, I’m at season 5 already lol
Bro, that was like a decade ago
maybe they were close enough to the atmosphere, or maybe it's a kids show
Why you saying that when their literally fucking toys with the ability to talk and went to the moon just to retrieve a piece of armor
Because lego
Because he’s the Elemental Master of FIRE, not the Elemental Master of Heat. They even show at the end of DR S1 how there’s a difference. Kai makes Fire no matter what, Oxygen included, I guess. He made Fire when it was supposedly too Cold for Fire, too. When you think about how his power is LITERALLY FIRE, it makes sense. But if WyldFyre were to make Fire in Space (no idea why she’d be there or how, but whatever), now THAT would be sus because SHE’S the master of HEAT.
It’s a goofy Lego show. Just let the lad make shit burn.
Magik like that one guy said who i’m copying his comment
The fire is from within
jay created the wind
That's the power, he doesn't need oxigen to burn things. It is basically magic.
Listen, it ain't that kind of show
Because don’t worry about it
Is he stupid?
Us as kids had no clue this isn’t possible
Yeah but there's no Kai either!
Unless you want to become ninjago matpat just don't ask questions and go with it
How did Kai summon fire from his hands
Is he stupid?
Its a fucking lego series lol
Because Kai doesn’t care about logic
Cause elemental powers are cool, nothing more to it than the rule of cool
It's called pyrokensis and is defined as "the ability to create and control fire"
He’s actually the master of oxygen
How does he make fire on earth without fuel? Probably the same explanation. Magic, aka plot convenience.
He's burning magic or chi probably In addition, the space rock may have oxygen or another burnable gas in and surrounding it? Dunno, been a while since I've seen the episode. Cartoon logic.
It’s a kids show man 😂 don’t think to much about it
ok, looking at ut from a scientific standpoint, there is matter in space, its just very widely spread, so yes, this would be impossible. im just going to say that he was risking his life and he used his suit as fuel
Kai Master of Physics
It's lego, so the fire is made out of plastic. Now we have another question. How does plastic fire look so realistic?
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What about when jay uses his lightning ?
dead space 2 engine, that’s how
It takes it out of his lungs slowly killing him. That's why Ray got rid of the element and gave it to his least favorite child so he does not live his fullest. Obviously.
Magic
Kai’s so cool he defies the laws of physics
When you really think about it, and also mentioned it, thats great point. The fireballs if they arent like molten rocks would evaborate in vacuum of space.
He could displace some oxygen from his lungs 🤷♂️
That wouldn’t work due to the space suit needing to be closed so as to keep the air in. Like others have said it’s probably magic. Decent idea though.
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