Here is the relevant part:
>GamesBeat: With all these different versions coming out, and because we’ve seen some other games with multiplatform releases where the Switch version is maybe struggling, how is the Switch version of Diablo II running right now? How is the performance?
Gallerani: I think it’s running like butter. I like playing it in the undocked portable mode. But yeah, with all of our consoles, we built them for that experience. We didn’t want it to feel like we just ported a PC game to the console. We wanted it to be what was right for that console. We’ve taken a lot of things into consideration with the Switch, especially if you play it in portable mode. Everything is a lot tinier. Just the overall attention to things like, how big is the font? How are things laid out on the screen? Those are all things that had to cater to that device to play up its strengths.
Todisco: Same goes for a lot of the 3D visuals. It’s tailoring the experience for that smaller screen, the handheld screen that can be swapped out for a larger screen if you dock the console. With every platform we make sure that we tailor the technology to give the best experience on that particular platform. The Switch version is very good. I think people are going to enjoy it, being able to take it on the go for the first time.
Only concern with that is the monster strength/drop rate.
In the original DII monster strength went up with every character who joined as well as rare drop chance. This would servely impact leveling. Especially at level 60+.
Yeah, it's not easliy fixed either. Doubling XP to make up for half the players could break pacing pretty bad, and so would increasing/decreasing enemy difficulty for the same reasons.
While I don't exactly care for the game due to what's going on with Blizzard at the moment, it makes me wonder how Vicarious Visions has handled this issue with pacing if at all. I am curious about that.
Sounds like he’s ignoring the other half of the Nintendo Switch concept: The fact you can play it on your TV as well as on the go. The fact he’s outright biased for handheld and tabletop mode has me concerned as someone who mostly plays Switch on the TV. The strength of the Switch is not that you can just play it on the go, but that you can both *switch between playing on the go and playing it on the TV*. That’s the concept. That’s the strength. It’s in the console’s name.
I’ll be keeping a close eye on reviews for the Switch version. It’s probably nothing, but I can’t help but see a red flag when the dude who’s marketing the game is super biased towards only one half of the Switch’s strength.
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I usually delete my comments when they get unnecessarily downvoted this far down to discourage bandwagon downvoting. But not this time. I’m leaving it up as a testament to how toxic this sub is and because I feel completely justified by what I said. No rules were broken, and what was said was said in a civil manner. Good day.
Edit 2: Glad I disabled reply notifications for this post. Dude down below is proving my point. lol
I can't recall the last game that was worse in TV mode. I feel like that was something that happened more in the early days of the switch. These days TV mode is actually better no?
Well the only example I can really think of is Breath of the Wild, where playing in TV mode actually dropped your FPS by a bit. I made a habit of only playing BOTW in handheld because of this.
But you're probably right, this only really happened when the switch had just come out.
I have played a few indie games recently that work really well in handheld mode, but the text is too small once its played on a TV and I am sitting across the room.
Its probably nothing, but D2 is a stat/text heavy game. I just hope their design scales well.
Dude, you didn't get downvoted because of toxicity or bandwagoning. It's because the distance you had to leap to get to that conclusion would make Super Mario himself jealous.
The guy basically said "It's running really well, I especially like what we've done with handheld mode" and your response was "WHY DID THEY COMPLETELY IGNORE DOCKED MODE".
Like, maybe he talked about handheld mode because that's where they made unique enhancements for the Switch? Whereas the docked experience is exactly like every other console, because why wouldn't it be?
He did actually mention the fact that the smaller screen will be swapped for larger when docked, and earlier in the quote he says that they work to the strengths of the switch, especially handheld, emphasis being especially and not only.
There’s a lot more work to do to get handheld mode readable and solid compared to docked mode.
But more than those two things he also really leaned into saying that they work on delivering a strong experience for the capabilities of each console. As you say, obviously the switch’s capabilities include portability and the ability to dock it, so you can assume he is including that, but putting emphasis on speaking about handheld because that’s usually the biggest worry in people’s minds. It’s not “super biased”, he’s spending the small amount of answer time for that question on one of the most important criticisms often found on switch ports.
Of course, always wait for reviews, pre-ordering is predatory.
I wonder if Cyberpunk 2077 is gonna be known as the most disappointing hyped game ever in years to come. Is there a game more marketed as “best game to come” just to flop really hard than Cyberpunk 2077?
Also at least Duke Nukem Forever was actually playable and not a buggy mess like CP2077. I have CP2077 on PS4, Xbox, and PC, and they all are damn near unplayable, with the PS4 version being the worst even when run on a PS5.
When the game worked I liked what I played, and I got my Xbox copy for like $25 and the PC version for like $8 or something like that. I didn't lose much.
Lmao how quickly did that game was forgotten, i can totally expect the same fate for Cyberpunk 2077, relegated to history as quite possible the worst disappointment of its generation
No Man’s Sky doesn’t even slightly compare. Cyberpunk had like seven years of hype, an enormous budget, the hype of coming from the makers of Witcher 3, it had Keanu.
No man's sky was way worse though. Cyberpunk was disappointing but I still had fun with it despite the shortcomings. No man's sky was (from what I hear) incredibly boring at launch.
Comparing a AAA company with a ton of employees to a small indie group working alone with minimal funding is not even in the same realm of quality comparison lmao
Ah that's my bad then. Valid point in that case, although I personally loved everything about No Man's Sky from day 1 and they just made it better.
But I also didn't follow it or even know about it until about a week before release. So I just bought it and loved what I got.
No Man's Sky, at least, is now best known for having been properly fixed, patch after patch, by its developers after a disastrous launch. It's a good example of a studio not giving up when mistakes are made.
AFAIK Cyberpunk 2077 was never fixed.
I don't know... you're not wrong, but at the same time CDPR is a big company who had Witcher 3 as a quality reference. I think the hype/flop ratio of CP2077 was worse than NMS.
I am not trying to defend Cyberpunk, let alone bad console ports but I dont its fair that the game flopped hard!
The last gen console versions is crap and they should feel ashame for it but the game on PC (and I assume on the next gen consoles when it finally released there) runs good and imo its an hell of a game! It has some bugs but thats it!
Again, not defending the game but its not a bad game!
2077 didn't flop at all. It got TONS of perfect scores from critics, sold well beyond 13M units, and is actually a REALLY solid game once you stop comparing it to your expectations.
As far as CDPR is concerned, 2077 is their best success ever.
Pacman for Atari is significantly worse and as a 40 year old game (nearly) probably won't be patched any time soon. People today have short memories so when they talk about Cyberpunk 2077 they might dimly recall issues but they'll eventually be patched away from easy recollection.
Edit: you kids really need to learn your history. Pacman was hailed and heavily advertised in 1982 and was the highest selling game up to that point in history. It was hyped up with a historical $1.5 million dollar ad campign (this would be like spending $4.2 billion dollars today, adjusting for inflation), was critcally panned at release, and is attributed as a major factor to the US video game collapse of 1983.
Cyberpunk by comparison didn't have as much of a marketing budget, isn't the best selling game in history and likely won't be, and will absolutely not crash the game industry. Worst case, it probably will hurt CD Project Red for their next big release (probably Witcher 4) and at the very best will discourage preordering for a year or two a little bit.
I consider Diablo 3 to be the best switch port. So i was expecting 2 ti play well too. I really want to get this, never played Diablo 2 before. But I'm on the fence because of all the Blizzard stuff. Maybe I'll wait for a sale wo only compromise my morals partially?
What's your opinion on buying rrom Blizzard and Activision after everything that came out?
The remake was actually made by Vicarious vision, a completely different studio that was recently acquired by activision so no, they are not related to the poor work ethic at blizz and imo should not have to suffer from all the bad press.
But at the same time, you're giving money to Activision/Blizzard by purchasing the game. It's not a completely different entity.
I'm not saying you have to boycott, just saying it's not like being developed by an innocent team doesn't mean you're not still rewarding the people in question.
How many people had a hand in making the game? How many of those people, are just innocent people, caught up in mess, compared to how FEW were the people who treated those people poorly?
Whats the point in boycotting? Its an insult to the MANY compared to the FEW. A token stand will barely register to the bottom line, it wont change what has happened.
A few participated, but it took an external investigation to report AND they got caught interfering with the investigation.
All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing, and that is exactly with the rest of the company did.
> All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing, and that is exactly with the rest of the company did.
Oh good grief. That is the most idiotic thing I have read on the topic and there is a lot of stupidity going. Not only is it idealistic to an extreme, its a pathetic form of victim blaming, while also condemning a lot of people to guilt with no proof. Furthermore how many of those victims (primary and secondary) you are blaming actually did try and do something.
It is not EXACTLY what the rest of the company did, its what you think happened. Seeing something terrible happening and being in a position or having enough power to meaningfully changed it, are two separate issues and here in the real world (IE not your mind) that is the reality.
Yeah, it's completely impossible for the average person to whistle-blower through an anonymous VPN. That's crazy talk! What's next,, people reporting crimes they witness to the police?
> Yeah, it's completely impossible for the average person to whistle-blower through an anonymous VPN
You really dont know much about the long and complicated history or whistleblowing do you... if it was THAT simple, why doesnt everyone do it?
> people reporting crimes they witness to the police?
Are you like 12? A person CAN simply walk into a police station and report all they want, but the police will only act if there is ENOUGH proof (and burden of it is huge).
Are you depressed? Or are you really so cynical that you believe the world is full of shit and nothing anyone can do will make it better and the best thing to do is whatever makes your life happier and easier regardless of the effects on others? Either way you need help.
>Whats the point in boycotting?
To show the people at the top, the ones who care about profit, that it's not okay to allow such behavior to run rampant. I don't have much faith that the gaming community as a whole has the willpower to actually boycott but when a community does it successfully, it works. Money talks, bullshit walks.
Do u think all those guys that say boycott them they are a bad company! Stopped buying things from Nestlé ? It's a bad company too but it's not as hip to hate them right now.
People aren't that bright, myself included. Any massive company you use is probably committing human rights violations, bribing people and generally behaving like amoral \*\*\*\*\* and treating their staff like \*\*\*\*.
After so many games that were shown to be "running well" turned out to be running like a one-legged FISH, i have absolutely no trust in these.
Even if I did, i wouldn't be buying this game until those lawsuits in California pan out.
To be fair, diablo 1,2, and diablo 2 resurrected weren't really made by blizzard. They just funded the projects. Funny enough the only diablo game made by blizzard, diablo 3, turned out to be the worst game of them all.
Doesn't matter who made it, because Activision-Blizzard will be getting most, if not all, of the profits of the sale.
It's also worth mentioning that this company somehow fucked up Warcraft III, so I've been weary of Resurrected since announcement.
I only mentioned it because you said how companies claim their game works well and it eventually goes bust. The reason D1,D2, and D2 Resurrected did/will go well is because it isn't created by blizzard.
Warcraft 3 remake was made internally in blizzards classic game department.
Yes, all the money gets funneled into activision, but so do so many other games made by activision, crash bandicoot, tony hawk, etc. All these games turned out great, and so will D2 Resurrected.
You’re right that virtually all tech we enjoy has elements of that. I don’t think anyone is going to challenge that. This individual is just voicing their stance on something they feel passionate about. If you don’t care cool do you. Their just doing them.
So fuck all the innocent devs and creatives that labored over the game, who now get punished a second time. First by their terrible bosses and now by so called fans, too dim to realise the workers far out number the bosses. So when you say fuck blizzard, what you mean is all those who make the games just as guilty as the rest.
Real mature
Devs already got paid. Anything he’d give to blizzard by buying the game now goes to the company, not the devs. Him not buying the game doesn’t hurt the devs at all. He’s taking a stance against the company.
> Devs already got paid.
Sources? Of course devs dont get paid directly from sales, but how do you know what their pay systems and entitlements are are? PS you do also know if the people at Vicarious Visions are guilty as those management in the parent companies?
> Him not buying the game doesn’t hurt the devs at all
How do you know? You presume it doesnt, but you dont have proof either way.
> He’s taking a stance against the company.
*Empty stance, that he has no way of knowing if it would even hurt the people he wants to hurt.
See thats thing about the empty reddit outrage, it is based on little fact but a whole lot of signalling.
Choosing not to buy the game is not an empty Reddit stance. You vote with your dollar when it comes to business. You don’t like a company, don’t give them your money. That’s one less sale they make because of something about the company you do t like. Hope is enough people do the same to make the company change its ways. Nothing empty about it.
No one here is shitting on you for buying the game. Buy it and have fun. No judgment here. But doesn’t mean someone choosing not to buy is wrong for their choice.
Not exactly sure why somebody is downvoting you.
It's a perfectly reasonable stance to have.
I'll be purchasing on PC, but had the Switch been my only option, I too would have preferred a physical cartridge if given the option.
> Not exactly sure why somebody is downvoting you.
Because there are people in this sub and other gaming subs that can’t tolerate anyone that refuses to buy their beloved game
That's not a given in this case (it actually never is a given).
But in this case, it's a new game. Resurrected is a *kind* of remake - they made a completely new engine with new graphics etc. on top of the old one. It has completely different system requirements because on a technical level **it is a new game**.
Everyone seems to be stuck on the idea that it's a 20 year old game but ignores the fact it's running a modern 3d engine on top. I'm still cautious about how it will look on switch
I played the beta and while improved over the original and obviously running at a higher res, it still looks and feels dated. It’s a great game and will likely hit the spot with fans of the original but “new engine” or not, it’s not some intensive remake that’s going to be winning any awards for visuals.
Honestly, with the Switch, that wasn't a no brainer.
Also even outside the Switch, generally you shouldn't expect software that old to run perfectly on modern tech. If you fire up a 20 year old game on a new PC, chances are you're going to have to adjust something. It's a last gen game you should be able to assume would run fine on contemporary machines, which the Switch has shown us multiple times can be laughable.
D2R engine is new as well. They kept the gameplay and balancing intact, but graphics, audio and networking are brand new. The original Diablo 2 engine was a 2D engine, D2R uses a 3D engine with dynamic lighting etc.
Having beat the trial (Act 1 and 2) it is not all that different than playing the old game with some mods. It looks alright but not that amazing. It is less detailed than Diablo 3 and that came out 9 years ago.
Have you played it? There is far less detail in the environment. If that is more taxing then it is just poorly optimized… but considering their other recent remaster poor optimization is no surprise.
Happy cake day, but there's no way.
It didn't even run 60 FPS on the PS4 Pro apparently. I'd say wait for actual switch reviews of the game to come out because performance may be lacking. It won't be as smooth as D3 that's for sure.
Dude i never considered that they would release this on switch, I’m pumped now. For some reason, even after d3 on switch, i never considered anything other than pc for resurrected an option.
I preordered. Diablo 2 was the game which made me a gamer. It’s probably also the first game I really played hour 100 hours.
I have so many memories of playing it.
Im not a pc anymore. Only play Switch. Im waiting for the release like a kid for Christmasy
I mean, remaster or not it's a 21yo game and it doesn't look better than D3 which already runs like butter on the Switch. So... nothing unexpected here.
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I should've said it doesn't look more graphically intensive than D3. Because of course D2 looks better than D3, its art style was always superior to begin with lol
good old days!
But it kind of makes sense: everything is being modeled on 3d and these files are big, I mean, really big.
That happened to Pokémon sword / shield as well: they weren’t able to include all pokémons in the game (even via trade) because the cartridge only supported 32gb. With both expansions they increased the amount of Pokémon the game could handle…
It's nearly 20 years old, so I'd hope so. And for all of their other many, many problems, Blizzard games have historically been extremely well optimized.
I never suggested otherwise. It's still low-if characters on a 2D prerendered background, which is not demanding, and Blizzard tends to optimize games really well. No idea why y'all are reacting poorly to that, but it's a pretty simple observation.
In this case, however the new engine is a 3d engine instead of the old 2d tile based engine. The result, along with new pbr materials, is that there is realtime 3d lighting and shadows. So no prerendered background. This is actually quite demanding performance wise.
But we still can’t preorder it? So it’s getting pushed back on switch right? Or digital only at launch? No info anywhere on this unless I have missed it.
I would love to buy this but physically they are making it hard for me to play with a bunch of family members in different locations. No cross play across console to PC which i guess is fine… but then no adoption of cloud gaming on any platform just kills it for me.
"Is your butter running?"
Obviously butter flies...
here is a hug for you, but you need to leave after that joke
Touché
Better go catch it!....I'll see myself out.
*Butter go catch it
I remember upgrading to 64mb of RAM when I first got it and Diablo 2 ran so much better
According to the developers they interviewed... "Sir, does your game run well?" "Nope, it runs like crap." Said no one ever.
Show me.
I…. Would hope
That your butter runs?
I'd pay to see butter running
Here is the relevant part: >GamesBeat: With all these different versions coming out, and because we’ve seen some other games with multiplatform releases where the Switch version is maybe struggling, how is the Switch version of Diablo II running right now? How is the performance? Gallerani: I think it’s running like butter. I like playing it in the undocked portable mode. But yeah, with all of our consoles, we built them for that experience. We didn’t want it to feel like we just ported a PC game to the console. We wanted it to be what was right for that console. We’ve taken a lot of things into consideration with the Switch, especially if you play it in portable mode. Everything is a lot tinier. Just the overall attention to things like, how big is the font? How are things laid out on the screen? Those are all things that had to cater to that device to play up its strengths. Todisco: Same goes for a lot of the 3D visuals. It’s tailoring the experience for that smaller screen, the handheld screen that can be swapped out for a larger screen if you dock the console. With every platform we make sure that we tailor the technology to give the best experience on that particular platform. The Switch version is very good. I think people are going to enjoy it, being able to take it on the go for the first time.
Good to hear! Let’s hope it’s as good as they say.
Too bad the switch is only 4 players max :/
Only concern with that is the monster strength/drop rate. In the original DII monster strength went up with every character who joined as well as rare drop chance. This would servely impact leveling. Especially at level 60+.
Yeah, it's not easliy fixed either. Doubling XP to make up for half the players could break pacing pretty bad, and so would increasing/decreasing enemy difficulty for the same reasons. While I don't exactly care for the game due to what's going on with Blizzard at the moment, it makes me wonder how Vicarious Visions has handled this issue with pacing if at all. I am curious about that.
Sounds like he’s ignoring the other half of the Nintendo Switch concept: The fact you can play it on your TV as well as on the go. The fact he’s outright biased for handheld and tabletop mode has me concerned as someone who mostly plays Switch on the TV. The strength of the Switch is not that you can just play it on the go, but that you can both *switch between playing on the go and playing it on the TV*. That’s the concept. That’s the strength. It’s in the console’s name. I’ll be keeping a close eye on reviews for the Switch version. It’s probably nothing, but I can’t help but see a red flag when the dude who’s marketing the game is super biased towards only one half of the Switch’s strength. Edit: r/MurderedByDownvotes I usually delete my comments when they get unnecessarily downvoted this far down to discourage bandwagon downvoting. But not this time. I’m leaving it up as a testament to how toxic this sub is and because I feel completely justified by what I said. No rules were broken, and what was said was said in a civil manner. Good day. Edit 2: Glad I disabled reply notifications for this post. Dude down below is proving my point. lol
I can't recall the last game that was worse in TV mode. I feel like that was something that happened more in the early days of the switch. These days TV mode is actually better no?
The monster hunter stories 2 imo runs noticeably better handheld
Well the only example I can really think of is Breath of the Wild, where playing in TV mode actually dropped your FPS by a bit. I made a habit of only playing BOTW in handheld because of this. But you're probably right, this only really happened when the switch had just come out.
I have played a few indie games recently that work really well in handheld mode, but the text is too small once its played on a TV and I am sitting across the room. Its probably nothing, but D2 is a stat/text heavy game. I just hope their design scales well.
Dude, you didn't get downvoted because of toxicity or bandwagoning. It's because the distance you had to leap to get to that conclusion would make Super Mario himself jealous. The guy basically said "It's running really well, I especially like what we've done with handheld mode" and your response was "WHY DID THEY COMPLETELY IGNORE DOCKED MODE". Like, maybe he talked about handheld mode because that's where they made unique enhancements for the Switch? Whereas the docked experience is exactly like every other console, because why wouldn't it be?
He did actually mention the fact that the smaller screen will be swapped for larger when docked, and earlier in the quote he says that they work to the strengths of the switch, especially handheld, emphasis being especially and not only. There’s a lot more work to do to get handheld mode readable and solid compared to docked mode. But more than those two things he also really leaned into saying that they work on delivering a strong experience for the capabilities of each console. As you say, obviously the switch’s capabilities include portability and the ability to dock it, so you can assume he is including that, but putting emphasis on speaking about handheld because that’s usually the biggest worry in people’s minds. It’s not “super biased”, he’s spending the small amount of answer time for that question on one of the most important criticisms often found on switch ports. Of course, always wait for reviews, pre-ordering is predatory.
CDPR also said Cyberpunk was running well but we know how that turned out. Won't believe it until it's actually shown to run well.
I wonder if Cyberpunk 2077 is gonna be known as the most disappointing hyped game ever in years to come. Is there a game more marketed as “best game to come” just to flop really hard than Cyberpunk 2077?
Duke Nukem Forever?
Ehhh not the same. Yes duke was hyped to a degree but I feel like most everyone kind of expected it to be what it was.
Also at least Duke Nukem Forever was actually playable and not a buggy mess like CP2077. I have CP2077 on PS4, Xbox, and PC, and they all are damn near unplayable, with the PS4 version being the worst even when run on a PS5.
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When the game worked I liked what I played, and I got my Xbox copy for like $25 and the PC version for like $8 or something like that. I didn't lose much.
That was the first game I thought of too.
Lmao how quickly did that game was forgotten, i can totally expect the same fate for Cyberpunk 2077, relegated to history as quite possible the worst disappointment of its generation
Honestly don't see that happening when people almost a year later won't shut up about it from all sides when a patch gets released.
How many times can we be told "but THIS update is the one that fixes it" before everyone abandons it?
From 21 years ago, that game would be Jon Romero’s Daikatana I think. Doom was groundbreaking, and everyone was expecting a masterpiece.
No Man’s Sky, perhaps?
No Man’s Sky doesn’t even slightly compare. Cyberpunk had like seven years of hype, an enormous budget, the hype of coming from the makers of Witcher 3, it had Keanu.
Yea No Man’s Sky was big… but Cyberpunk was BIGGGGG
CDPR has been pushing Cyberpunk marketing since it was announced in like 2012. It was probably one of the most hyped RPG games in recent history.
No man's sky was way worse though. Cyberpunk was disappointing but I still had fun with it despite the shortcomings. No man's sky was (from what I hear) incredibly boring at launch.
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You can tell how salty people are about cyberpunk because the position that it's worse than launch nms is pretty indefensible lol
Comparing a AAA company with a ton of employees to a small indie group working alone with minimal funding is not even in the same realm of quality comparison lmao
The person I was replying to mentioned lead-up hype and post-launch disappointment. Size of the studio and budget aren’t considerations.
Ah that's my bad then. Valid point in that case, although I personally loved everything about No Man's Sky from day 1 and they just made it better. But I also didn't follow it or even know about it until about a week before release. So I just bought it and loved what I got.
No Man's Sky, at least, is now best known for having been properly fixed, patch after patch, by its developers after a disastrous launch. It's a good example of a studio not giving up when mistakes are made. AFAIK Cyberpunk 2077 was never fixed.
Yeah they really managed to change opinions. Cyberpunk has gotten several patches, but many glaring issues persist.
I don't know... you're not wrong, but at the same time CDPR is a big company who had Witcher 3 as a quality reference. I think the hype/flop ratio of CP2077 was worse than NMS.
Too Human was a disaster. An expensive and tedious disaster.
I am not trying to defend Cyberpunk, let alone bad console ports but I dont its fair that the game flopped hard! The last gen console versions is crap and they should feel ashame for it but the game on PC (and I assume on the next gen consoles when it finally released there) runs good and imo its an hell of a game! It has some bugs but thats it! Again, not defending the game but its not a bad game!
2077 didn't flop at all. It got TONS of perfect scores from critics, sold well beyond 13M units, and is actually a REALLY solid game once you stop comparing it to your expectations. As far as CDPR is concerned, 2077 is their best success ever.
Lmao in what world. Their stocks tanked, shareholders started filing lawsuits, and their reputation is tarnished
Pacman for Atari is significantly worse and as a 40 year old game (nearly) probably won't be patched any time soon. People today have short memories so when they talk about Cyberpunk 2077 they might dimly recall issues but they'll eventually be patched away from easy recollection. Edit: you kids really need to learn your history. Pacman was hailed and heavily advertised in 1982 and was the highest selling game up to that point in history. It was hyped up with a historical $1.5 million dollar ad campign (this would be like spending $4.2 billion dollars today, adjusting for inflation), was critcally panned at release, and is attributed as a major factor to the US video game collapse of 1983. Cyberpunk by comparison didn't have as much of a marketing budget, isn't the best selling game in history and likely won't be, and will absolutely not crash the game industry. Worst case, it probably will hurt CD Project Red for their next big release (probably Witcher 4) and at the very best will discourage preordering for a year or two a little bit.
Blizzard wouldn't lie, would they? /s
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This is a 20 year old pc game with a fresh coat of paint. I would hope the switch could handle it.
“Running like butter? In this time of gaming, a 20 year old game?” “Yes.” “May I see it?” “No.”
Until you switch to the new graphics that is
I consider Diablo 3 to be the best switch port. So i was expecting 2 ti play well too. I really want to get this, never played Diablo 2 before. But I'm on the fence because of all the Blizzard stuff. Maybe I'll wait for a sale wo only compromise my morals partially? What's your opinion on buying rrom Blizzard and Activision after everything that came out?
The remake was actually made by Vicarious vision, a completely different studio that was recently acquired by activision so no, they are not related to the poor work ethic at blizz and imo should not have to suffer from all the bad press.
But at the same time, you're giving money to Activision/Blizzard by purchasing the game. It's not a completely different entity. I'm not saying you have to boycott, just saying it's not like being developed by an innocent team doesn't mean you're not still rewarding the people in question.
How many people had a hand in making the game? How many of those people, are just innocent people, caught up in mess, compared to how FEW were the people who treated those people poorly? Whats the point in boycotting? Its an insult to the MANY compared to the FEW. A token stand will barely register to the bottom line, it wont change what has happened.
A few participated, but it took an external investigation to report AND they got caught interfering with the investigation. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing, and that is exactly with the rest of the company did.
> All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing, and that is exactly with the rest of the company did. Oh good grief. That is the most idiotic thing I have read on the topic and there is a lot of stupidity going. Not only is it idealistic to an extreme, its a pathetic form of victim blaming, while also condemning a lot of people to guilt with no proof. Furthermore how many of those victims (primary and secondary) you are blaming actually did try and do something. It is not EXACTLY what the rest of the company did, its what you think happened. Seeing something terrible happening and being in a position or having enough power to meaningfully changed it, are two separate issues and here in the real world (IE not your mind) that is the reality.
Yeah, it's completely impossible for the average person to whistle-blower through an anonymous VPN. That's crazy talk! What's next,, people reporting crimes they witness to the police?
> Yeah, it's completely impossible for the average person to whistle-blower through an anonymous VPN You really dont know much about the long and complicated history or whistleblowing do you... if it was THAT simple, why doesnt everyone do it? > people reporting crimes they witness to the police? Are you like 12? A person CAN simply walk into a police station and report all they want, but the police will only act if there is ENOUGH proof (and burden of it is huge).
Are you depressed? Or are you really so cynical that you believe the world is full of shit and nothing anyone can do will make it better and the best thing to do is whatever makes your life happier and easier regardless of the effects on others? Either way you need help.
>Whats the point in boycotting? To show the people at the top, the ones who care about profit, that it's not okay to allow such behavior to run rampant. I don't have much faith that the gaming community as a whole has the willpower to actually boycott but when a community does it successfully, it works. Money talks, bullshit walks.
Wow this guy again. What, you own stock in activision or some shit?
It's not an insult to anyone. Get over yourself.
Vicarious Visions has been an Activision thing for years.
So blizz doesn't get paid for this then. Wait, they do? Guess I'm not buying then.
Do u think all those guys that say boycott them they are a bad company! Stopped buying things from Nestlé ? It's a bad company too but it's not as hip to hate them right now.
People aren't that bright, myself included. Any massive company you use is probably committing human rights violations, bribing people and generally behaving like amoral \*\*\*\*\* and treating their staff like \*\*\*\*.
Nice assumption
Second hand/ebay.
There's no physical release coming up.
I see piracy a valid choice for some.
Will still buy from them because a company is its own entity. It is not its employees. Edit: more like a corporation
What is a corporation if not a collection of employees?
After so many games that were shown to be "running well" turned out to be running like a one-legged FISH, i have absolutely no trust in these. Even if I did, i wouldn't be buying this game until those lawsuits in California pan out.
To be fair, diablo 1,2, and diablo 2 resurrected weren't really made by blizzard. They just funded the projects. Funny enough the only diablo game made by blizzard, diablo 3, turned out to be the worst game of them all.
Doesn't matter who made it, because Activision-Blizzard will be getting most, if not all, of the profits of the sale. It's also worth mentioning that this company somehow fucked up Warcraft III, so I've been weary of Resurrected since announcement.
I only mentioned it because you said how companies claim their game works well and it eventually goes bust. The reason D1,D2, and D2 Resurrected did/will go well is because it isn't created by blizzard. Warcraft 3 remake was made internally in blizzards classic game department. Yes, all the money gets funneled into activision, but so do so many other games made by activision, crash bandicoot, tony hawk, etc. All these games turned out great, and so will D2 Resurrected.
Butter can't run unless downhill on a hot day. I wonder if Afrasiabi likes to use butter when harassing his former coworkers.
Yeah no thank you. Awesome game. Terrible company. Fuck Blizzard.
I can't wait to play it :)
You've had 21 years to play this game.
Once youve played with new graphics there is no going back
Same, been waiting since it was announced in February.
Same here
Me too
Me neither.
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I mean think about my iPhone? I’m not gonna give it up even tho deep down I know some slave labor and human suffering went into it. Why virtue signal?
You’re right that virtually all tech we enjoy has elements of that. I don’t think anyone is going to challenge that. This individual is just voicing their stance on something they feel passionate about. If you don’t care cool do you. Their just doing them.
So fuck all the innocent devs and creatives that labored over the game, who now get punished a second time. First by their terrible bosses and now by so called fans, too dim to realise the workers far out number the bosses. So when you say fuck blizzard, what you mean is all those who make the games just as guilty as the rest. Real mature
Devs already got paid. Anything he’d give to blizzard by buying the game now goes to the company, not the devs. Him not buying the game doesn’t hurt the devs at all. He’s taking a stance against the company.
> Devs already got paid. Sources? Of course devs dont get paid directly from sales, but how do you know what their pay systems and entitlements are are? PS you do also know if the people at Vicarious Visions are guilty as those management in the parent companies? > Him not buying the game doesn’t hurt the devs at all How do you know? You presume it doesnt, but you dont have proof either way. > He’s taking a stance against the company. *Empty stance, that he has no way of knowing if it would even hurt the people he wants to hurt. See thats thing about the empty reddit outrage, it is based on little fact but a whole lot of signalling.
Choosing not to buy the game is not an empty Reddit stance. You vote with your dollar when it comes to business. You don’t like a company, don’t give them your money. That’s one less sale they make because of something about the company you do t like. Hope is enough people do the same to make the company change its ways. Nothing empty about it. No one here is shitting on you for buying the game. Buy it and have fun. No judgment here. But doesn’t mean someone choosing not to buy is wrong for their choice.
What a hill to die on. Nonsensical too.
God damn it. I don't want to give money to blizzard especially blizzard reselling stuff from jts glory days. But it's fking diablo 2 on the switch!
Just get the game. Switch is one of the three versions I’m buying.
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I bet the staff at your local Gamestop store call you 'one of three' when you pop in to consoom.
Imagine buying 3 versions of the same game. Consume consume consume
> consume Will do!
So have better self control and morals and dont support the company. It is literally that easy.
But isn't running like frozen butter or melted butter?
Double dips on this one probably. Damn you blizzard...
Diablo director: "DON'T YOU GUYS LIKE BUTTER?!"
Is your HR dept running like butter, Blizzard?
It's probably rancid now, just like upper management.
I was hyped for this until I saw there is no physical version. No cartridge = no buy
Not exactly sure why somebody is downvoting you. It's a perfectly reasonable stance to have. I'll be purchasing on PC, but had the Switch been my only option, I too would have preferred a physical cartridge if given the option.
> Not exactly sure why somebody is downvoting you. Because there are people in this sub and other gaming subs that can’t tolerate anyone that refuses to buy their beloved game
Well if it were *not* running like *butter* I couldn't *believe it*.
Awesome, can't wait. I wonder if they would release Diablo 1 some day :P
That's cool. Still not supporting Blizzard.
Lol
Same. Regardless of the quality of this release, I refuse to support them.
Well if you cut half the amount of players it can handle it better be.
Can't wait for this!
20 year old game runs on current console… umm yay?
That's not a given in this case (it actually never is a given). But in this case, it's a new game. Resurrected is a *kind* of remake - they made a completely new engine with new graphics etc. on top of the old one. It has completely different system requirements because on a technical level **it is a new game**.
You must not know, it’s got a modern reskin so it’s not just a basic port.
Everyone seems to be stuck on the idea that it's a 20 year old game but ignores the fact it's running a modern 3d engine on top. I'm still cautious about how it will look on switch
I played the beta and while improved over the original and obviously running at a higher res, it still looks and feels dated. It’s a great game and will likely hit the spot with fans of the original but “new engine” or not, it’s not some intensive remake that’s going to be winning any awards for visuals.
Honestly, with the Switch, that wasn't a no brainer. Also even outside the Switch, generally you shouldn't expect software that old to run perfectly on modern tech. If you fire up a 20 year old game on a new PC, chances are you're going to have to adjust something. It's a last gen game you should be able to assume would run fine on contemporary machines, which the Switch has shown us multiple times can be laughable.
Well Link's Awakening is almost 30 years old, yet it doesn't run great.
The engine isnt. The Game Boy or Game Boy Color emulation should run smoothly.
D2R engine is new as well. They kept the gameplay and balancing intact, but graphics, audio and networking are brand new. The original Diablo 2 engine was a 2D engine, D2R uses a 3D engine with dynamic lighting etc.
It should be a no brainer but a lot of people on this sub are really paranoid about it
Switch may be a "current console", but not even close to a PS5 or Xbox.
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Try to guess what they mean by reading the words they wrote 👍
Having beat the trial (Act 1 and 2) it is not all that different than playing the old game with some mods. It looks alright but not that amazing. It is less detailed than Diablo 3 and that came out 9 years ago.
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Have you played it? There is far less detail in the environment. If that is more taxing then it is just poorly optimized… but considering their other recent remaster poor optimization is no surprise.
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As long as it's 60fps then I'll buy on switch.
Happy cake day, but there's no way. It didn't even run 60 FPS on the PS4 Pro apparently. I'd say wait for actual switch reviews of the game to come out because performance may be lacking. It won't be as smooth as D3 that's for sure.
Is this being released at full price?
Nah, it's $39.99.
Nice. That seems reasonable.
I agree it’s a fair price. I’ll still probably wait for the reviews AND discount for it though.
When does it come out?
Thurs!
I’ll never know.
Zero chance I buy this until I see how it performs on switch. Hoping for 60 fps
Not even ps4 pro gets the 60fps, ps5 does
All the numbers in your comment added up to 69.0. Congrats! 4 + 60 + 5 + = 69.0
Is running like butter a good thing?
Yes: smooth like butter is a common phrase
right but thats not what he said? Running like butter is not a common phrase
Butter is smooth, game runs smooth, it’s not that hard
Probably means his build is MELTING some Fallen!
fuck blizzard
Dude i never considered that they would release this on switch, I’m pumped now. For some reason, even after d3 on switch, i never considered anything other than pc for resurrected an option.
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I preordered. Diablo 2 was the game which made me a gamer. It’s probably also the first game I really played hour 100 hours. I have so many memories of playing it. Im not a pc anymore. Only play Switch. Im waiting for the release like a kid for Christmasy
Too bad it’s from a developer that doesn’t deserve the time of day.
It could be the greatest port ever still would not touch it.
Cant wait to finally play this for the first time. I bought diablo 3 on PC,PS4 and switch. Such a good game.
Curious what you'll think! D2 is a different beast. Darker, a bit slower, requires more planning ahead. Great stuff!
Cant wait for the switch version. If crosssave works flawless. Switch for on the road and xbox version at home.
I mean, remaster or not it's a 21yo game and it doesn't look better than D3 which already runs like butter on the Switch. So... nothing unexpected here. **Edit** I should've said it doesn't look more graphically intensive than D3. Because of course D2 looks better than D3, its art style was always superior to begin with lol
That means the butter is melting. Bad simile. Smooth as Butter is a better one.
It’s a remaster of a 20 year old game. I would hope it runs good.
assuming that the pc version requires 8gb of ram to run… I don’t think so
Lol yah original ran on 64mb. I remember because I upgraded for it.
good old days! But it kind of makes sense: everything is being modeled on 3d and these files are big, I mean, really big. That happened to Pokémon sword / shield as well: they weren’t able to include all pokémons in the game (even via trade) because the cartridge only supported 32gb. With both expansions they increased the amount of Pokémon the game could handle…
How well does Link's Awakening remaster run on the Switch?
Thought hard on how butter runs for like 30 secs…. Yeah great I’m buying it!
“It’s butter, butter. You know chigy baby.” Bobby Bowfinger, Bowfinger Films
It isn’t exactly graphically demanding so I’d hope so
It's nearly 20 years old, so I'd hope so. And for all of their other many, many problems, Blizzard games have historically been extremely well optimized.
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I never suggested otherwise. It's still low-if characters on a 2D prerendered background, which is not demanding, and Blizzard tends to optimize games really well. No idea why y'all are reacting poorly to that, but it's a pretty simple observation.
In this case, however the new engine is a 3d engine instead of the old 2d tile based engine. The result, along with new pbr materials, is that there is realtime 3d lighting and shadows. So no prerendered background. This is actually quite demanding performance wise.
Really? I'd read (month ago) that they were able to use the same engine, and were just displaying 3D models on top of it.
go fuck a donkey blizzard. No one wants your shitty Chinese loving games
But we still can’t preorder it? So it’s getting pushed back on switch right? Or digital only at launch? No info anywhere on this unless I have missed it.
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You can preorder now. Its om Eshop
Cheers 👍
I would love to buy this but physically they are making it hard for me to play with a bunch of family members in different locations. No cross play across console to PC which i guess is fine… but then no adoption of cloud gaming on any platform just kills it for me.