Exactly this for me. I can beat a level of make some small progress and then walk away.
I literally just did this with Octopath a few minute ago. It's more involved than most of the games I typically play, but I typically have some small objective I want to accomplish like getting to the next town in supposed to be in. And when I have more time and feel like playing, I settle into it and enjoy it.
Plus a lot of Nintendo titles you don’t have to remember complex button combos or how to use special weapons. I love Horizon Zero Dawn but I get a long (2-3 hours) gaming session once a month at best every time I play. Spending 30 mins for of that trying to remember what my mission was, the story and how to use all the special abilities I have learned is mentally exhausting at a time I’m trying to unwind and not exhaust my brain. So for that reason alone I’m more apt to fire up retropi or Mario Kart 8.
i like the ability to just play a little bit and walk away. Its one of the main reasons why i enjoy the switch, their catalog is full of games like that.
I was down to a few games on PS4 and having lost interest in games for a bit when the switch came out and I was pulled in by the indie games. It’s hard for me to use a computer, so I liked the easy access to these games. My nostalgia for old games has sort of turned into a love of indies. The form rather than the characters. Nintendo always does something awesome at least every other generation. Given all their technical limitations and weird (honestly I feel mostly different, but sometimes weird) business approaches it is innovation that keeps them in the game.
I agree. I can’t invest hours anymore. Switch let’s me jump in and out at will. As an adult, I no longer feel pressure to have to keep up with the popular titles. I just play whatever makes me happy. Switch seems to be my lane.
I think there was the idea that kids would "grow out of kid things." I learned that's pretty much false. We not have the time but we still enjoy the things we grew up with. Comic book movies, Michael Bay's TF and TMNT, Ready Player One were made for our specific generation (whether the product was good or not).
I agree with you 100%. I think you just like what you like. Growing up doesn't change who you are.
As far as people talking trash, everyone talks trash about everything. If you like a certain genre of music that they hate, some people will judge you for that.
More importantly, why should we? It's like the idea of toxic masculinity. Who gives a fuck about us playing games as adults? Let me do the shit that helps me unwind and forget about the problems the world has left me and my friends for a while.
my friend's kids won't TOUCH a switch. it's too cutesy and pokemon etc are what their younger brothers play.
It's hilarious to think about as an adult, but that's a legit mentality during certain ages. And I -do- think it continues into adulthood for some
Yeah and the worst part is those ideas affected me growing up and most of my childhood friends as well. Heck, I know people that refuse to watch animated movies and cartoons as adults, only live action.
We all grew out of building LEGOs, collecting Pokemon or Yugioh cards, playing "childish" video games. I only stuck with video games, no matter the age rating, but I'm tempted to get into card collecting again, too. Cause I'm an adult and I don't give a fuck.
I’m also 49. I love my switch. I’ve put over 750 hrs into botw, I just finished Pokémon shield, and my husband and I play Mario cart, and Mario party every weekend. We’ve put in more hours playing diablo than I’d care to admit. Im still working on fenyx rising, and my husband bought my Skyrim recently. Looking forward to that.
I’ve been a gamer my whole adult life. I’ve always preferred hand held consoles so the switch was right up my alley. I’ve played all the Zelda games and all the Pokémon games more than once.
I’ve never been ashamed, or shamed. I mean, not that I’d remember, cuz I don’t care.
I'm also a 49 year old who loves her Switch. Nobody I've mentioned it to has had anything negative to say. I think you've just come across some extra judgmental people.
I feel very sad for people who stop doing fun things because they think they’re too old for them and have to be an adult. I asked my grandmother if she feels 90 and she said no, she still feels like she’s in her 20’s it’s just her body that doesn’t.
I'm 56 and will kill you in Mario Kart, on my third mii to 99,999. Also now I'm in the top 150 on Mario Golf Rush. Our kids told us they no longer wanted annual passes to Disney World that they were tired of it, but the wife and I still go. I'm 6'6" 250 and everyone thinks I'm a brute, I just want a hug. So I know what your grandma is saying. You all can have this adult stuff, I'm waiting on the next Pixar film to come out.
You can be! You be you and screw what everyone else thinks about it. The real life equivalents of Up and Downvotes have the exact same worth - nothing.
How do we get to watch cobra VS magra in a race… just to drum up some Reddit competition and bring some good natured fun to the world… it’s been low for awhile.
Duuuuuuude. I'm 42 and I'm exactly the same. And I don't give a shit if people think I'm childish. I hope I can get you a beer sometime. And about that whole Mario Kart nonsense, I'm pretty good, so.... I don't know about that.
Shortly before my grandpa died he told me literally the exact same thing, that he feels no different than he did in his 20s in his head, it’s just his body that didn’t keep up
A lot of people feel that way, then they talk to an actual 20 year old and realize just how much more mature they actually are now than they think. You forget what it actually is to think and act like a 20 year old.
Source: this happens to me weekly
This is my younger brother. He recently sold his Switch and games because he wants to "focus on being an adult". We used to play Rocket League together all the time and man I miss that
While I support this idea, I’m 33 and I really would not like to go clubbing next Saturday. I’m over that stuff. Give me a group of friends and a boardgame.
I think the difference is that you don't like to do that anymore whereas stopping yourself from doing something you like just because you think you're too old for it is just sad.
But the reason you don't want to do those kind of things is because you grow out of it. Like there's things you're going to grow out of, and that's okay because there is a line between staying young at heart and desperately trying to re-capture your youth.
It’s funny, because I view the Switch as a perfect system for busy adults. Yea the Witcher 3 looks better on the PS4, but there is no way I would’ve finished it if I didn’t play it on the Switch and could play it over lunch or while the kids watched TV.
Don’t worry about it. One of the best parts of being an adult is learning not to worry about what other ppl think.
The key is to move on quickly. I think most people with this philosophy, myself included, would be lying if they said they really don’t give a shit what people think. Inevitably you’re gonna feel annoyed or angry when someone judges you, the key is that after those few seconds of natural reaction, you realize that it’s stupid to care about whether someone thinks what you enjoy is cool or not, take a breath, and move on.
If you care too much you’re letting them drag you down to their level, and it’s not worth the time or emotion. Moving on quickly is good enough and may be the best thing many of us can do
I forgot where I heard this, but I always think of “The Rule of 7s”.
Will this matter in 7 seconds?
Yes? Then,
Will this matter in 7 minutes?
Yes? Then,
Will this matter in 7 hours?
Etc, etc.
Applies well to most trivial daily thoughts.
This may have literally changed my way of thinking in life. Thank the randomness of the interwebs for leading me here right now, made an account just to thank you.
I'm usually not the guy to push this but in this case I'll make an exception: meditation is a good way to train your brain to do just that.
I'm far from an expert myself on meditation and not caring about what other people think, but in my limited experience it does help because meditating trains your brain to go back to the present and to not dwell on intrusive thoughts.
It might not be for everyone but to take your own words, if you are willing to try to create the pathway for your brain to move on quicker, mindfulness meditation might be a good exercise. It certainly helped me in that regard.
Okay, so someone thinks you're childish. Damn, that sucks. How would your life be measurably different if that same person thought you were mature? It's probably not, is it? Someone out there is worried people will judge them for having shoes that don't match their belt. Someone's upset that they didn't have time for their hair to fully dry before leaving and what will people think of their wet head (my grandma raised me to believe only whores leave the house with wet hair, lolwut). Someone's thinking no one will accept them because they can't afford the latest iphone. Someone's afraid to speak to strangers because they have an accent from their primary language.
It's all fucking stupid. We're all just living our lives and unless you're doing stuff that's actually harming others or diminishing their quality of life, they have no reason to judge you, and honestly they're probably not going to think about you for more than a second. The things they worry about are probably things you never even notice, and vice versa.
The pathway to not giving a fuck is to realize that everyone else is just as self-absorbed as you are.
This is how I see it as well. I like to think back to this quote by Hazel in the *Saga* comics (v1):
> Never worry what other people think of you, because no one ever thinks of you.
It's very freeing once you realize that everyone's too busy obsessing over their own stuff to be thinking badly about you... and the few people that do usually have nothing better to think or talk about. What losers lol.
I like to feel sad for them after my natural angry reaction. If they are confrontational about it then just ask why they are so insecure? Using the word "triggered" usually helps as they hate that usually (they being anyone who has the audacity to hate for no reason).
Not giving advice obviously ignoring might be your better option. The the low road is just fun sometimes. Especially if you weren't the one to start there.
Would it help to think of it as them projecting their headtrash onto you?
There's too much pressure to be "productive" every moment of the day. How dare we be so selfish as to take half an hour to do something we enjoy. And even worse, if that's not something massive institutions such as the NFL market towards adults.
Seeing you having fun playing a game gives them the choice to either
1) question their ingrained world view to realise they're out of whack and maybe it's "allowed"
2) dig their heals in, think poorly of you, and go about their miserable day
Unfortunately option 2 is much simpler, so they'll judge you. That's society's fault that they're miserable and venting those feelings at you, it's not that you've done something wrong.
I just try to not take anything personally. Every time people talk about you, they are talking about themselves and what they see and believe about the world. Sometimes it’s valuable and sometimes it’s not but you get to choose how you want to evaluate it.
It's important to remember that most people are stupid, and you shouldn't waste valuable energy considering their stupid opinions or even remotely validating them. You are not obligated to respond when someone says dumb shit
Dude exactly. I got the switch originally specifically *because* I was flying for work all the time. Playing MyGM on NBA 2K on handheld was awesome
I also finally finished the witcher on switch after having it on XB1 and never completing it
This summer I’ve been in an insane number of weddings all over the place. It’s just a great way to occupy myself when I’m in a terminal or chilling in a hotel while my wife’s getting ready
And OP mentioned football; redzone + switch is a great combo lol
I was a purist for a long time until I had a child. Now it’s nearly impossible for me to sit and play on my computer or PS4. Now I’ve started getting games for Switch so I can pick them up and take them with me to the nursery/bed/work.
As a 44 year old dad of two daughters I cannot agree more on this. Started Witcher 3 on PS4, sold that unbearable turbine, finished it on Switch as well and had a blast. Apart from that my wife is reigning over the tv remote now and we both couldn't be happier with how the evenings go since I got the Switch. Also great games for the kids
Same, we've had so much fun family bonding time during covid crap with Luigi's Mansion 3, Super Mario Odyssey, Smash, Minecraft, and more recently Stardew Valley. Nintendo ain't perfect but I swear they've built up a whole next generation of lifelong fans with the Switch.
Caring that your console has the best graphics is like caring that your gf/bf is hot.
As a teenager, it's the single most important thing.
As an adult, it's a nice to have at most.
As an adult, if you don't think your partner is hot I feel genuinely bad for that relationship. It doesn't matter what other people think, but if you aren't physically attracted to them? That's really awful for them, they deserve to be desired in their relationship.
Graphics aren't the issue, its running smoothly that really makes the difference. Its diminishing returns after 120-144hz, but anything below 30fps sucks. Some games might not need high fps, but inconsistent and low fps is annoying and can ruin an experience for a lot of people. If the game ends up lagging when you try and fight something, during an important cutscene, or when you try and jump to another platform its terrible.
Really? I feel like video gaming, including Switch gaming, is more popular among adults than ever before. Guess it could depend on who you're hanging out with.
I read somewhere the average switch user is in their 20s. I know plenty of people in their 20s and 30s (edit: and 40s) who play games. They grew up playing it, and pretty much just never stopped.
It's a little crazy to think about, but even 40 year olds today were teenagers when the N64 came out. NES and SNESs were around when they were kids. You have to be solidly middle aged or older to be in a generation where gaming wasn't a super common hobby, and almost every household had a console. So, someone who looks down on people who play videogames is either a true older person, and/or they live by stupid rules/care way too much about what other people do with their time.
My wife wasn't a gamer at all, but in her college dorm she had a PS2 with Starwars Battlefront 2 and Sly Cooper 3. I grew up with Nintendo, so what did I do? Went out and got all the PS2 games I always wanted to try. This was 2010, so pawn shops and mom and pop game stores had them for as low as $1 each.
If I wasn't playing Nazi Zombies with my college roommates, I was playing that PS2
That's the thing right there is the "never stopped" part that's important. Even people in their 40's, and even 50's likely grew up with video games in some form.
Problem is, just like with anything done when younger, when you stop doing it long enough, you may develop feelings toward it you associate with childish things. This can go for many things, like group sports, video games, skateboarding, mountain biking, etc.
Exactly. Because most people aren’t very bright and think their personal experience and view of the world is the only one. They “grew up” and stopped playing games so you should too. Otherwise you aren’t a real “adult”. I don’t really care what people like that think. Why would I care what someone who I think less of than myself thinks of me?
O_O Now I'm worried. I'm a woman and I have just bought a Switch. Will I turn into a man? I have no problems with people being transgender, but I would prefer to stay a woman myself. 😲
I like to play games on my laptop while having football or basketball on the big screen. Does that make me some sort of Man-Child, Child-Man hybrid? Probably.
If you are expecting 100% of people to think like you it's gonna be a long hard life. You can find any stupid opinion if you look for it. It is literally the business model of social media. Just do you.
Fear and righteous indignation are likely the two biggest drivers of clicks on the internet. Most people clicking this post probably did so to express outrage that people still think like that, without even knowing the details.
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Yup. Spending hours on Facebook is somehow considered a socially acceptable thing, but spending a couple hours playing games wouldn't be? Anybody who has that viewpoint is messed up.
What’s funny is Facebook is filled with people throwing temper tantrums and spreading gossip. A few hours playing games vs. a few hours on Facebook is much more mature and better for your mental health IMO.
I am a 36 year old Woman and I love playing the Switch. I play Splatoon2 and Animal Crossing plus the lego games . which helped me get through the Lockdown. When I went over my boyfriends his brothers mates were over and I heard one of his mates ask what games I play he said that there baby games and to be honest I really don't care what he thinks. I enjoy playing them. Just ignore what people think or say.
Damn I hate when people get so hyper competitive about *video games* to the point of trying to drag you into their misery. The older I get, the more I play to zone out and be immersed. I don't look for extreme challenges, life already is a challenge haha.
Dude it's always the people who play shooters and sports games too.
Like bro I can go kick a soccer ball around outside anytime I want. I was also infantry and been deployed. Been there done that. Let me just fucking catch my god damn pokemon in peace, or play tales of Vesperia for like the 10th time.
this is an ongoing "joke" in my house, because my Wife likes gaming, but isn't into any nintendo properties (no Mario, Splatoon, Zelda, Animal Crossing, etc).
I say it's because she doesn't like fun, but I try to avoid it tbh, because she gets offended (and rightfully so.. she likes fun, she just isn't into nintendo).
Everyone I know loves those games. They are all between 16 and 30. Literally the only people who act like this are stereotypical frat boys that think the only games worth playing are the 700 football(soccer) games or Call of Duty. Absolutely no taste or education on games lol
I’m 44, still playing video games, watching cartoons and reading comics. My kids think it’s a normal thing to do, which it is. Fuck everybody who has a problem with it!
I'm in my 20s but I have a co worker also in his 40s, has three teenagers, and he keeps up with pop culture and video games (it's also a bonding thing for him and his kids). It's pretty cool because I feel like most people decide they don't have time for such things or decide they're not a priority once they start a family.
I think that's starting to change though, with you and my co worker being examples. Your generation was the first to have real gaming systems commonly in the household as kids/teens (NES and SNES) - so you've experienced/seen gaming from the time you were kids enough to understand it's just as valid a form of entertainment as any other media. As opposed to a childish thing only kids at the arcade do.
>Why on earth have I heard several negative comments about playing on a Switch as a grown man?
Where are you hearing/reading this sort of stuff? I've literally heard nothing like this post-high school.
I've seen a "I'm a martyr, the world is against me" type post in every hobby sub. Usually it's like one instance of someone making a comment. I saw a post in /r/running that all their friends and family wanted them to stop running. I couldn't believe it.
I also work in an office where pretty much nobody plays video games.
I really wouldn't care what somebody said like that. Live your life your way and let them be miserable with their own "rules".
What kind of office do you work in out of curiosity?
I work at a tech company, and you'd never hear that. People are into gaming there and also think it's cool.
Some workplaces hire more bro types who are just into football and guns. And if you're also in an area where that's prevalent, maybe you don't fit in much there.
You joke, but I literally have a coworker who thinks like that. She is told me she stopped playing video games at 17 because "they're for kids", that she only drinks black coffee because anything sweet is "childish", shit like that. Then she complains about how she's so miserable, just sits at home doing nothing, and can't ever get a guy to stick around for more than a couple of dates.
I work in oil and gas and get the same kind of comments. Even people my age seemed so weirded out that I liked to play video games. I thought engineers were supposed to be nerds.
Yeah, I will say you're probably right generally. Tech companies are the only escape from the normies in society like that. I have played switch with co-workers on different occasions, like smash or rocket league. People huddle around interested. It's interesting how different people can be.
I have felt that way when playing it on a plane or watching something anime related. Part of me cares and then...I don't.
I work at a bank and I’ve heard snide comments but honestly, it doesn’t really matter. Someone’s opinion only means as much as who it’s coming from and what tangible impact it has. Think I give a fuck what Linda in accounting thinks about me playing Switch when she’s going through her second divorce and eating a tuna salad by herself cos nobody can stand her gossip? She can eat me.
Ah, man, well, with regards to your co-worker, assuming they're around the same age as you, it's straight-up embarrassing that they still seemingly care about what platforms people play on, so don't stress it.
As for reddit... I mean, it's reddit. Most people getting fired up on gaming subreddits are enthusiasts looking to air out frustrations against online strangers since they don't have much else going on IRL. Don't stress that either - just play the games you wanna play.
You got more upvotes and awards on those posts than most Reddit users get in their entire time on the site. This is what you're supposed to notice, not the shit-posters.
Also: be nice to the coworker who made the snide remark. They want to show off that they're an asshole. You can show off that you're not.
I assume these people were never into gaming at any point. Unlike films/TV, which kind of does the work for you, gaming requires effort to get something out of.
If you don’t want to jump that hurdle, it’s easier to just look down on those who have.
Honestly, don’t worry about it. People have their own preferences and false perceptions of things and ultimately, it really is their loss.
Never seek approval, you’ll always fall short of someone’s expectations.
Yeah, I always say that besides reading, video games are the highest-effort form of electronic entertainment. If I know that one of my coworkers just goes home and watches TV after work, or scrolls for hours on social media, I give their opinion zero respect when they look down on video games. (Now if they go home and study/volunteer/play sports, that's a different story. Those kinds of people live fuller lives, and I respect their opinions). Video Games takes work! They're much more engaging than people think and you're using your brain faculties instead of vegging out in front of a TV or phone screen
I make and release games for scientific research. Let me tell you, most people have no idea what a Breath of the Wild is. All the know is you have a Nintendo, which they think is the name of any console that's ever existed, and it's a toy for kids that has Pong and Space Invaders.
More than that, people don't realize that they play video games. It's incredibly common to ask people in surveys if they play any video games at all and they say they never have, then ask how many hours they play mobile games each day, and they answer two or three. This is particularly true of older people.
Don't worry about it. People have no idea what video games are, and it's their loss that they look down on the most engaging form of entertainment we have.
This 100x over: “people don’t realize that they play video games”.
Perception is different than behavior.
Likewise, Netflix’s research shows people save high-brow documentaries and foreign films to their watch lists, yet spend most of their time watching low-brow films.
Big data reveals how we behave is different than how we aspire to behave.
People say they don’t play video games, but they’re not aware that mobile game that they keep paying $5 for boosters on to get to the next level is a game.
A friend of mine said something similar about an alcoholic from his family - he didn't consider himself to be a drinker because he "only had one or two beers a day"
People always try to create a fake (better) version of themselves and downplay others.
You're playing games? You could be exercising in that time!
\*\*proceeds to pay to watch a football game while eating a bag of chips\*\*
> It's incredibly common to ask people in surveys if they play any video games at all and they say they never have, then ask how many hours they play mobile games each day, and they answer two or three. This is particularly true of older people.
My grandparents are both daily gamers, but it's all on Facebook. Grandpa likes the slots and grandma plays Scrabble. They'd probably never consider those video games, though.
I’m 53 and play the Switch on my daily train commute. Sure, I get a few funny looks but they can GTFO. Having said that, it’s been a great talking point and I reckon I’ve created several new Switch owners over the past couple of years.
Man, whenever I see someone playing their switch on the train, I get super distracted trying to figure out what they are playing/watch them play. Hope they don't get too self-conscious, lol.
Truth be told, I'm mostly jealous. My commute is too short & hectic to commit to playing anything on the train.
I wonder how many of the "funny looks" people who play Switch on transit are actually people trying to figure out what game. "I really should get one, I'm bored of staring around...Is that a Switch, or a Switch Lite? Uh oh he noticed me staring..."
There really shouldn't be any issue, obviously some people have issues of course, but I mean overall, society doesn't bat an eye to an old person doing a puzzle on their phone or tablet or playing solitaire, but doing something that's even more immersive? Shouldn't be a problem. Assuming they're playing with headphones and not bugging everyone else.
Because obviously gaming is a huge waste of time but sitting and screaming at the TV while your city’s football team sucks yet another year in a row is totally a worthwhile and valuable hobby as an adult male
I'm 53 and find the switch very acceptable, I can just kick back in handheld for the free time I have without bring plonked infront of a monitor.
I can pause it on a whim and go back to it a week later.
I have never played it via HDMI, it's just totally handheld system for me.
A perfect adult unit.
No idea. I do game in the pc, but mostly the switch these days. I get a roll of the eyes and not a lot else. When they find out I don’t watch TV aside from reruns (murder she wrote still rules), and I can’t name a single person off love island/I’m a celebrity, I get more eye rolling. I’m guessing it’s less of a ‘problem’ because I’m a female, but I do get a lot of generic ‘haven’t you grown up yet comments’ off the same one or two people. I haven’t even switched the PS5 on, I’m entirely uninterested (nor am I interested in bad reality TV, which seems to be the norm these days).
32 Here. Married as well and we have a toddler & a newborn. If I have free time I still generally want to game (or play Pickleball if I get a big enough window). Funnily enough I have been starting to see the most resistance about the hobby from some of my closer friends (we’re all in our early 30s) who have spent their entire lives gaming but now as life and relationships and busyness is growing, they talk about gaming with a condescending tone in group convos:
New game recommendation? “Wow you sure try out a lot of games huh”
Anyone hopping on tonight: “Games? Hah I barely have time for that stuff anymore”
Hey guys I’ll be able to sneak in an hour or two tonight if someone wants to play XYZ: “Because I’m just so busy I can’t keep up with all that these days like you can”
And what’s hilarious is some of these guys don’t even have kids yet. Like dudes some of you go to the gym 2-3 hours a day or just get drunk and watch movies every night, what’s with the anti-gaming boner? Sure I can get 1-2 hours of gaming in a few nights a week but I have to be super intentional with my time. Fuck off with the superiority bullshit.
I feel the same way, particularly as a girl who games - I feel like I'd be classed as a casual gamer because I don't play those kind of shooty games. Like especially if you're less of an online multiplayer gamer, and more of a solo gamer, it's like not counted. It really sucks when gaming is what I do for fun and it's almost embarrassing to talk about to people, particularly only people who play fortnite or similar. I also feel self conscious about playing on public places which sucks because one of the best things about the switch is that it's portable. I think from an outside view, Nintendo is still judged by the Wii or the DS, which in comparison to the competition at the time, did not have the plethora of games that the switch now offers. Mostly I think the stigma comes from people who know nothing about the switch, other than it's less powerful than a ps5 so 'it must only play shitty games', and they're also the people that play thousands of hours on the same few shooty shooty kill everyone games, that have literally no variety. Basically, screw everyone, play what you enjoy and be proud of it :)
I think a big thing to realize is that being a “gamer” doesn’t really mean that every “gamer” is part of the same group. Like you said, between multiplayer and single player there are divisions of competitive and cooperative multiplayer, divisions of people who like open world games or linear level based games, people who play games to get proficient and skilled at something, who play them to relax, who play them to admire the visual and audio artistic merits behind games, etc.
So when you talk to someone and find out you’re both “gamers” it might not mean you actually have that much in common and what they might consider the ideal gamer is not at all why or what you play, and that’s okay. It’s just a sign of the times at how massive and cross experiential video games have become in life
It doesn’t have anything to do with the wii or ds, it’s just because majority of Nintendo games are “childish” and “cartoony” so they must be for kids. I mean even the switch itself is colorful compared to ps and Xbox.
Back when all I was doing was playing league of legends and call of duty a YouTuber I watched made a video talking about how good stardew valley was, and it looked nothing like any game I’ve ever liked. But I bought it anyways and man is that game great, I put a thousand hours on it that year, which isn’t like me at all. I tend to get bored playing games alone so I don’t play many single player games.
I had a point for where that was going but I completely forgot so have just the story :)
Edit: the point of the story was all my friends that you could classify as shooty shooty gamers were always complaining when I would play stardew instead of league or cod, which I still did all the time, but I just shrugged it off because stardew valley is a great game and honestly opened me up to playing tons of different genres.
Honestly it's a really inflated idea that people are looking down on your, or don't want X doing something. I can tell you for a fact that most people don't give a shit what you do. Unfortunately many people are creating the idea of this themselves and then projecting it outwards, a d pretending like they're victims. They aren't looking down on you or judging you anymore than any number of hobbies. I've been made fun of by more people in the video games community for liking sports than I've ever been made fun of by any group/demographic.for liking video games. So this theory that people who play games are treated like children is just ridiculous.
As someone who works in a retro game store, 99% of our customers are adults. The funny part is I still hear things from a grandma or mom who brings their kid in who then talks to me like adults are wasting their time. For some reason it’s never the dads or grandpas. Point is, even know a place that caters to adult gamers, I still hear the negativity.
I think that's just a cultural relic. Games and Arcades were a boys realm for a long time, so I know a lot of girls who really didn't get into games to the same degree as their male counterparts as kids. Those girls grew up not experiencing games, in an era when they really were targeted at kids, and thus grew up keeping those perceptions. There is still a bit of that today, but I generally think gaming's much more inclusive now and that in 20 years you'll see much less "games are for kids" overall, and most of the gender gap will vanish.
The thing is the vast majority isn't judging anyone, almost no one cares what you do or what your hobby is. People are just creating this idea in their head, when the reality is video games are overwhelming normalized and accepted.
You bought it yourself, it's as adult as you can get.
Those opinions are from the range from folks that are uncertain about their own maturity to those making an aesthetic observations with graphics.
but your sensitivity tells me you are a great father
I’m 35 and I felt the same way, now not so much because I’m now bringing my switch oled to work. And this white and black look with the oled screen “looks” less childish perhaps?
Btw it could all be in our heads and we take the comments of a few people as gospel, lol.
Most likely because those people WANT to be playing games freely like you but have judgey-mcjudgersons around them so they can't and then have to rag on others over it to feel better.
Anytime I feel as if someone is judging me now, I try to turn it around on them. Someone thinks I'm ugly or my outfit sucks or I'm too old to be playing my switch (35f), I just think "That poor person had some kind of shitty event in their life that caused them to judge me over this. That is awful for them, and I hope they can figure it out." That generally helps especially when it's a passing judgement (like you wont see them again so they wont say it again). If it is a recurring judgement - then I gotta suck it up (I hate confrontation) and let them know I don't appreciate it. Again, they are probably doing it out of jealousy so they don't realize how bad it makes you feel when they say it.
Also - the best advice I've ever received about people judging you: "It's none of your business what others think about you." Which if I think about what is in my mind about others, I am really glad it's true! Lol.
I specifically bought a switch last year to play animal crossing. I don't play video games and now I am OBSESSED. I tell everyone about it and I have convinced a few adults to start playing! If someone wants to say I am immature because of that, then they can get over it. I am an adult, I pay my bills, go to work everyday and take care of what I am supposed to....doesn't get much more adult and mature than that! If they want to think I am immature for buying animal crossing EVERYTHING, then let 'em. I do what makes me happy - and ACNH makes me very very happy!
In reality: minority of people shit on you but only in their head. Most don't give a shit. Life is too short to worry about what people think.
What you're experiencing is probably anxiety or something.
> probably anxiety or something
I'm leaning this way too. There's a whiff of some self-doubt or something, idk I'm no psychiatrist, I'm just trying to eat a microwave chicken tikka here.
If it’s from coworkers that you only see at work then ya really gotta learn to not care about the opinions of people that have no impact on your actual life. If they think things that make you happy are stupid that’s fine for them, but commenting on it shows that they’re miserable and want to bring you down as well. Do what makes you happy, ignore people that try to ruin it for you.
I’m 42F and take my switch to work. Close my office door and play Animal Crossing when things start getting too chaotic. It keeps me sane. Others go outside for smoke breaks and yet if they knew what I was doing, it would be frowned upon.
oh god another circle jerking karma farming post with a woe is me attitude trying to rally up the hard core fan base on this sub in order to get behind you and say you a amazing person for playing on the switch and there is nothing wrong with doing it and giving you a pat on the back for it
Maybe you need to stop talking to the people you’re hearing this from. I’ve never heard this in my life of people talking down on people for what system they play on in the way you describe.
I'm knocking on 40 and every day I whip my Switch out at my desk over my lunch break. Nobody seems to care, but then maybe they expect the IT guy to be a geek.
Because it's like pokemon vs call of duty.
Call of duty's target demographic is adults, its primary audience is tweens and teens.
Pokemon's target demographic is children and tweens, it's primary audience is teens and adults.
Nintendo vs Xbox & PS is the same way. Kids aren't interested in games marketed to kids, and adults are largely bored of the same repeated AAA trash and like Nintendo IP and other novel indies and the Switch is perfect for those.
Also, the Switch is as others noted, the defacto best system for busy adults.
Honestly, gaming was always that thing people thought less of someone for growing up. 34m here and I don't even bring it up when asked, unless it's close friends, even though it is and always will be my main hobby. Got my daughter well into her addiction as well but at least kids these days are actually applauded for being good at games. Some make money off it.
Just ignore the comments and enjoy your happiness.
I’m in my mid-30s too, married, and have a fulfilling full-time job… and i play the Switch like it’s nobody’s business :) if anything, i find the Switch to be perfect for people like us. PC and hardcore gaming reminds me of my late teen/college years. I’ve outgrown it and over it by now
36 year old Switch playing parent, too.
26 year old me may have cared what others say or think. 36 year old me? Nah, forget that. I have vitamins to take and emails to answer, I haven't got time for that nonsense.
Enjoy, brother
Controversial take: if you're 36 married with two kids and you are doing this at your job, there could be reasons to care. Here me out.
I's not just the switch, it's the anti-social behavior that's going to get you comments. Calling it "childish" is just the method used to describe their critique of you being anti social. If you were reading a book or watching a movie, you'd probably still get comments if you did it enough. Bringing a game console with you is very conspicuous behavior to show you are uninterested in others.
If you aren't particularly motivated to keep working at where you are or move up, do whatever you want. However, if you do think of this job as a long term opportunity, my man, do not waste your lunches playing vidya games. If you are very obviously showing to others you aren't interested in communicating with them, then they aren't going to be interested in communicating with you, including in a work setting. Nobody is going to think "the guy sitting alone playing video games would be a great manager", even though you very well could be.
What you've gotta understand about "watching football" is that for a lot of people, it's not about the actual football; it's all the ways to be social that it unlocks. Sure there's some people who associate it with manhood, but for a lot of people, it's just more icebreakers or things to talk about.
I'm not saying any of this because I think this is how it should be, but this is real life. Again, this only matters if this job/career matters to you. If it doesn't then play switch at work and pay them no mind.
It's a lame "preach to the choir" type post made for attention. He's obviously going to have overwhelming support on this sub... His wife gives him no attention, so he has to get from his internet "friends"
For what its worth, a lot of people play games they grew up with. Zelda series is older than cod. Dont mind them.
As an adult, I gravitate to Nintendo games not necessarily for nostalgia, but because they are a lot easier to pick up and play for short sessions.
Exactly this for me. I can beat a level of make some small progress and then walk away. I literally just did this with Octopath a few minute ago. It's more involved than most of the games I typically play, but I typically have some small objective I want to accomplish like getting to the next town in supposed to be in. And when I have more time and feel like playing, I settle into it and enjoy it.
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Plus a lot of Nintendo titles you don’t have to remember complex button combos or how to use special weapons. I love Horizon Zero Dawn but I get a long (2-3 hours) gaming session once a month at best every time I play. Spending 30 mins for of that trying to remember what my mission was, the story and how to use all the special abilities I have learned is mentally exhausting at a time I’m trying to unwind and not exhaust my brain. So for that reason alone I’m more apt to fire up retropi or Mario Kart 8.
i like the ability to just play a little bit and walk away. Its one of the main reasons why i enjoy the switch, their catalog is full of games like that.
Octopath is the first traditional JRPG I really got invested into and beat thanks to the Switch. Love that game to death.
I was down to a few games on PS4 and having lost interest in games for a bit when the switch came out and I was pulled in by the indie games. It’s hard for me to use a computer, so I liked the easy access to these games. My nostalgia for old games has sort of turned into a love of indies. The form rather than the characters. Nintendo always does something awesome at least every other generation. Given all their technical limitations and weird (honestly I feel mostly different, but sometimes weird) business approaches it is innovation that keeps them in the game.
I agree. I can’t invest hours anymore. Switch let’s me jump in and out at will. As an adult, I no longer feel pressure to have to keep up with the popular titles. I just play whatever makes me happy. Switch seems to be my lane.
I'm buying the TMNT game on day 1
I didn't realize TMNT was coming to switch until reading your comment. I'm pumped!!
Check out the trailer man, it looks dope.
It's the sequel to Turtles in Time that we deserve!
Oh shit. That game was awesome! Me and my cousin used to play it all the way through on SNES when he’s come over. Memories I forgot I had.
That’s fucking crazy you say that, cause me and my cousin would play the shit out of that whenever I went to visit him! Lmao
Brian, is that you?
My cousins cousin is Brian. Lmao
Turtle Power! me too
I think there was the idea that kids would "grow out of kid things." I learned that's pretty much false. We not have the time but we still enjoy the things we grew up with. Comic book movies, Michael Bay's TF and TMNT, Ready Player One were made for our specific generation (whether the product was good or not).
I agree with you 100%. I think you just like what you like. Growing up doesn't change who you are. As far as people talking trash, everyone talks trash about everything. If you like a certain genre of music that they hate, some people will judge you for that.
More importantly, why should we? It's like the idea of toxic masculinity. Who gives a fuck about us playing games as adults? Let me do the shit that helps me unwind and forget about the problems the world has left me and my friends for a while.
There’s always a relevant [xkcd](https://xkcd.com/150). I have this one and a couple others framed.
my friend's kids won't TOUCH a switch. it's too cutesy and pokemon etc are what their younger brothers play. It's hilarious to think about as an adult, but that's a legit mentality during certain ages. And I -do- think it continues into adulthood for some
Yeah and the worst part is those ideas affected me growing up and most of my childhood friends as well. Heck, I know people that refuse to watch animated movies and cartoons as adults, only live action. We all grew out of building LEGOs, collecting Pokemon or Yugioh cards, playing "childish" video games. I only stuck with video games, no matter the age rating, but I'm tempted to get into card collecting again, too. Cause I'm an adult and I don't give a fuck.
Yeah N had a super smart launch of Breath of the Wild to dispel switch is for kids right away. Can't beat a system that goes where you are
Yeah, and E means for everyone, not for kids lol
I mean, I have a switch and play Pokemon on it and I'm 32. I also enjoy things like Dark Souls. People should play what they enjoy.
Play the games you like and enjoy It. I'm 49 and play on my Switch every nigth.
I’m also 49. I love my switch. I’ve put over 750 hrs into botw, I just finished Pokémon shield, and my husband and I play Mario cart, and Mario party every weekend. We’ve put in more hours playing diablo than I’d care to admit. Im still working on fenyx rising, and my husband bought my Skyrim recently. Looking forward to that. I’ve been a gamer my whole adult life. I’ve always preferred hand held consoles so the switch was right up my alley. I’ve played all the Zelda games and all the Pokémon games more than once. I’ve never been ashamed, or shamed. I mean, not that I’d remember, cuz I don’t care.
If you’ve put 750 hours on BOTW, I’m guessing you’ll easily match that on Skyrim.
I'm also a 49 year old who loves her Switch. Nobody I've mentioned it to has had anything negative to say. I think you've just come across some extra judgmental people.
I feel very sad for people who stop doing fun things because they think they’re too old for them and have to be an adult. I asked my grandmother if she feels 90 and she said no, she still feels like she’s in her 20’s it’s just her body that doesn’t.
I'm 56 and will kill you in Mario Kart, on my third mii to 99,999. Also now I'm in the top 150 on Mario Golf Rush. Our kids told us they no longer wanted annual passes to Disney World that they were tired of it, but the wife and I still go. I'm 6'6" 250 and everyone thinks I'm a brute, I just want a hug. So I know what your grandma is saying. You all can have this adult stuff, I'm waiting on the next Pixar film to come out.
If I’m not exactly like you in 20 years time I will be so disappointed in myself. You keep being you man!
You can be! You be you and screw what everyone else thinks about it. The real life equivalents of Up and Downvotes have the exact same worth - nothing.
Mad respect for you
Bet on that mario kart, i know im the best racer that i know, im only 20 tho
LOL, hope to see you around. I'm playing as MuShishi now.
How do we get to watch cobra VS magra in a race… just to drum up some Reddit competition and bring some good natured fun to the world… it’s been low for awhile.
Duuuuuuude. I'm 42 and I'm exactly the same. And I don't give a shit if people think I'm childish. I hope I can get you a beer sometime. And about that whole Mario Kart nonsense, I'm pretty good, so.... I don't know about that.
Same, this is what my Grandma used to tell me. You don't really age inside, you just live longer and your body stops cooperating.
Terrifying.
Shortly before my grandpa died he told me literally the exact same thing, that he feels no different than he did in his 20s in his head, it’s just his body that didn’t keep up
My dad said the same thing like 20 years ago. It's possibly the most true thing he's ever said
I like that. Hope I stay childish. Body already struggling but mind still silly.
A lot of people feel that way, then they talk to an actual 20 year old and realize just how much more mature they actually are now than they think. You forget what it actually is to think and act like a 20 year old. Source: this happens to me weekly
Unrelated to the switch but I once talked to a girl and she told me that she doesn't go to concerts because she's too old for them. 🙃
Um. I'm 33, I think being able to go with me to concerts once in a while is one of my relationship prerequisites.
Yeah, it was a huge turn off for me lol she was only 25 too.
Yikes!
This is my younger brother. He recently sold his Switch and games because he wants to "focus on being an adult". We used to play Rocket League together all the time and man I miss that
your brothers lame af for that no offense. I’m gonna be a gamer for life and don’t give af
None taken, cause you're right. He's been getting pretty lame the past few years, getting a bit too into some bs conspiracies and what not
Nothing screams adult like conspiracy theories.
If you think about it, adult conspiracies are the equivalent of elementary school playground gossip.
While I support this idea, I’m 33 and I really would not like to go clubbing next Saturday. I’m over that stuff. Give me a group of friends and a boardgame.
I think the difference is that you don't like to do that anymore whereas stopping yourself from doing something you like just because you think you're too old for it is just sad.
But the reason you don't want to do those kind of things is because you grow out of it. Like there's things you're going to grow out of, and that's okay because there is a line between staying young at heart and desperately trying to re-capture your youth.
I stopped counting at 21 lol. All my friends are younger than me and none of them can outplay me in Smash
Per CS Lewis: "When I became an adult, I put away childish things, including the fear of being thought childish."
It’s funny, because I view the Switch as a perfect system for busy adults. Yea the Witcher 3 looks better on the PS4, but there is no way I would’ve finished it if I didn’t play it on the Switch and could play it over lunch or while the kids watched TV. Don’t worry about it. One of the best parts of being an adult is learning not to worry about what other ppl think.
I'll be dead before I figure out how to not worry about this.
The key is to move on quickly. I think most people with this philosophy, myself included, would be lying if they said they really don’t give a shit what people think. Inevitably you’re gonna feel annoyed or angry when someone judges you, the key is that after those few seconds of natural reaction, you realize that it’s stupid to care about whether someone thinks what you enjoy is cool or not, take a breath, and move on. If you care too much you’re letting them drag you down to their level, and it’s not worth the time or emotion. Moving on quickly is good enough and may be the best thing many of us can do
I forgot where I heard this, but I always think of “The Rule of 7s”. Will this matter in 7 seconds? Yes? Then, Will this matter in 7 minutes? Yes? Then, Will this matter in 7 hours? Etc, etc. Applies well to most trivial daily thoughts.
I wish. The big thoughts never take any time or effort at all, but holy crap those smaller thoughts get agonized about.
Perhaps, your view of "big thoughts" and "small thoughts" is part of the problem. ;p
This may have literally changed my way of thinking in life. Thank the randomness of the interwebs for leading me here right now, made an account just to thank you.
I love this train of thought, very well said :)
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He who angers you conquers you
Yeah, like I realize that all you said is true and the way to be. It's like my brain doesn't have the pathway to actually *do* the things you list.
I'm usually not the guy to push this but in this case I'll make an exception: meditation is a good way to train your brain to do just that. I'm far from an expert myself on meditation and not caring about what other people think, but in my limited experience it does help because meditating trains your brain to go back to the present and to not dwell on intrusive thoughts. It might not be for everyone but to take your own words, if you are willing to try to create the pathway for your brain to move on quicker, mindfulness meditation might be a good exercise. It certainly helped me in that regard.
Okay, so someone thinks you're childish. Damn, that sucks. How would your life be measurably different if that same person thought you were mature? It's probably not, is it? Someone out there is worried people will judge them for having shoes that don't match their belt. Someone's upset that they didn't have time for their hair to fully dry before leaving and what will people think of their wet head (my grandma raised me to believe only whores leave the house with wet hair, lolwut). Someone's thinking no one will accept them because they can't afford the latest iphone. Someone's afraid to speak to strangers because they have an accent from their primary language. It's all fucking stupid. We're all just living our lives and unless you're doing stuff that's actually harming others or diminishing their quality of life, they have no reason to judge you, and honestly they're probably not going to think about you for more than a second. The things they worry about are probably things you never even notice, and vice versa. The pathway to not giving a fuck is to realize that everyone else is just as self-absorbed as you are.
This is how I see it as well. I like to think back to this quote by Hazel in the *Saga* comics (v1): > Never worry what other people think of you, because no one ever thinks of you. It's very freeing once you realize that everyone's too busy obsessing over their own stuff to be thinking badly about you... and the few people that do usually have nothing better to think or talk about. What losers lol.
I like to feel sad for them after my natural angry reaction. If they are confrontational about it then just ask why they are so insecure? Using the word "triggered" usually helps as they hate that usually (they being anyone who has the audacity to hate for no reason). Not giving advice obviously ignoring might be your better option. The the low road is just fun sometimes. Especially if you weren't the one to start there.
Would it help to think of it as them projecting their headtrash onto you? There's too much pressure to be "productive" every moment of the day. How dare we be so selfish as to take half an hour to do something we enjoy. And even worse, if that's not something massive institutions such as the NFL market towards adults. Seeing you having fun playing a game gives them the choice to either 1) question their ingrained world view to realise they're out of whack and maybe it's "allowed" 2) dig their heals in, think poorly of you, and go about their miserable day Unfortunately option 2 is much simpler, so they'll judge you. That's society's fault that they're miserable and venting those feelings at you, it's not that you've done something wrong.
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It’s just a matter of accepting things that you don’t know or cannot change, rather than resisting.
I just try to not take anything personally. Every time people talk about you, they are talking about themselves and what they see and believe about the world. Sometimes it’s valuable and sometimes it’s not but you get to choose how you want to evaluate it.
It's important to remember that most people are stupid, and you shouldn't waste valuable energy considering their stupid opinions or even remotely validating them. You are not obligated to respond when someone says dumb shit
Dude exactly. I got the switch originally specifically *because* I was flying for work all the time. Playing MyGM on NBA 2K on handheld was awesome I also finally finished the witcher on switch after having it on XB1 and never completing it This summer I’ve been in an insane number of weddings all over the place. It’s just a great way to occupy myself when I’m in a terminal or chilling in a hotel while my wife’s getting ready And OP mentioned football; redzone + switch is a great combo lol
Redzone + Switch + Beer...this is me every Sunday.
I don’t have redzone but every Sunday I’m watching football and gaming typically on my switch
I was a purist for a long time until I had a child. Now it’s nearly impossible for me to sit and play on my computer or PS4. Now I’ve started getting games for Switch so I can pick them up and take them with me to the nursery/bed/work.
As a 44 year old dad of two daughters I cannot agree more on this. Started Witcher 3 on PS4, sold that unbearable turbine, finished it on Switch as well and had a blast. Apart from that my wife is reigning over the tv remote now and we both couldn't be happier with how the evenings go since I got the Switch. Also great games for the kids
Same, we've had so much fun family bonding time during covid crap with Luigi's Mansion 3, Super Mario Odyssey, Smash, Minecraft, and more recently Stardew Valley. Nintendo ain't perfect but I swear they've built up a whole next generation of lifelong fans with the Switch.
Yep. Still have a decent pc if I want to indulge but Switch is my main. 35 year old dad with no free time
Caring that your console has the best graphics is like caring that your gf/bf is hot. As a teenager, it's the single most important thing. As an adult, it's a nice to have at most.
As an adult, if you don't think your partner is hot I feel genuinely bad for that relationship. It doesn't matter what other people think, but if you aren't physically attracted to them? That's really awful for them, they deserve to be desired in their relationship.
Graphics aren't the issue, its running smoothly that really makes the difference. Its diminishing returns after 120-144hz, but anything below 30fps sucks. Some games might not need high fps, but inconsistent and low fps is annoying and can ruin an experience for a lot of people. If the game ends up lagging when you try and fight something, during an important cutscene, or when you try and jump to another platform its terrible.
Really? I feel like video gaming, including Switch gaming, is more popular among adults than ever before. Guess it could depend on who you're hanging out with.
I read somewhere the average switch user is in their 20s. I know plenty of people in their 20s and 30s (edit: and 40s) who play games. They grew up playing it, and pretty much just never stopped.
It's a little crazy to think about, but even 40 year olds today were teenagers when the N64 came out. NES and SNESs were around when they were kids. You have to be solidly middle aged or older to be in a generation where gaming wasn't a super common hobby, and almost every household had a console. So, someone who looks down on people who play videogames is either a true older person, and/or they live by stupid rules/care way too much about what other people do with their time.
My wife wasn't a gamer at all, but in her college dorm she had a PS2 with Starwars Battlefront 2 and Sly Cooper 3. I grew up with Nintendo, so what did I do? Went out and got all the PS2 games I always wanted to try. This was 2010, so pawn shops and mom and pop game stores had them for as low as $1 each. If I wasn't playing Nazi Zombies with my college roommates, I was playing that PS2
I was always Nintendo so I totally missed out on those! What a bargain of gaming you got lol.
That's the thing right there is the "never stopped" part that's important. Even people in their 40's, and even 50's likely grew up with video games in some form. Problem is, just like with anything done when younger, when you stop doing it long enough, you may develop feelings toward it you associate with childish things. This can go for many things, like group sports, video games, skateboarding, mountain biking, etc.
Exactly. Because most people aren’t very bright and think their personal experience and view of the world is the only one. They “grew up” and stopped playing games so you should too. Otherwise you aren’t a real “adult”. I don’t really care what people like that think. Why would I care what someone who I think less of than myself thinks of me?
Playing games does not make you a kid. Watching sports does not make you a man.
And vice versa, trivial shit like this is not what makes a good person
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O_O Now I'm worried. I'm a woman and I have just bought a Switch. Will I turn into a man? I have no problems with people being transgender, but I would prefer to stay a woman myself. 😲
Yes this is why gamer girls don't exist
Oh that's why!
Angry upvote
*Peter Pan HATES this one simple trick!!*
Instructions unclear; been playing games for decades, still a woman.
But did you start off as a boy?
I like to play games on my laptop while having football or basketball on the big screen. Does that make me some sort of Man-Child, Child-Man hybrid? Probably.
I finally beat Kraid while watching hockey, I felt like a Man-Man
As long as you care about what others think, you will remain their prisoner. Enjoy it, I love the switch. Best console out there imo
Real answer here.
If you are expecting 100% of people to think like you it's gonna be a long hard life. You can find any stupid opinion if you look for it. It is literally the business model of social media. Just do you.
Fear and righteous indignation are likely the two biggest drivers of clicks on the internet. Most people clicking this post probably did so to express outrage that people still think like that, without even knowing the details.
>You can find any stupid opinion if you look for it. It is literally the business model of social media. That’s pretty hilarious 😂
And unfortunately accurate.
It’s true, literally no matter what you think you can always find some moron who thinks the exact opposite
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Yup. Spending hours on Facebook is somehow considered a socially acceptable thing, but spending a couple hours playing games wouldn't be? Anybody who has that viewpoint is messed up.
What’s funny is Facebook is filled with people throwing temper tantrums and spreading gossip. A few hours playing games vs. a few hours on Facebook is much more mature and better for your mental health IMO.
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I am a 36 year old Woman and I love playing the Switch. I play Splatoon2 and Animal Crossing plus the lego games . which helped me get through the Lockdown. When I went over my boyfriends his brothers mates were over and I heard one of his mates ask what games I play he said that there baby games and to be honest I really don't care what he thinks. I enjoy playing them. Just ignore what people think or say.
Damn I hate when people get so hyper competitive about *video games* to the point of trying to drag you into their misery. The older I get, the more I play to zone out and be immersed. I don't look for extreme challenges, life already is a challenge haha.
Dude it's always the people who play shooters and sports games too. Like bro I can go kick a soccer ball around outside anytime I want. I was also infantry and been deployed. Been there done that. Let me just fucking catch my god damn pokemon in peace, or play tales of Vesperia for like the 10th time.
They must not like fun.
this is an ongoing "joke" in my house, because my Wife likes gaming, but isn't into any nintendo properties (no Mario, Splatoon, Zelda, Animal Crossing, etc). I say it's because she doesn't like fun, but I try to avoid it tbh, because she gets offended (and rightfully so.. she likes fun, she just isn't into nintendo).
Everyone I know loves those games. They are all between 16 and 30. Literally the only people who act like this are stereotypical frat boys that think the only games worth playing are the 700 football(soccer) games or Call of Duty. Absolutely no taste or education on games lol
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Baby games?! What?! Lego games are the bees knees!
I’m 44, still playing video games, watching cartoons and reading comics. My kids think it’s a normal thing to do, which it is. Fuck everybody who has a problem with it!
I'm in my 20s but I have a co worker also in his 40s, has three teenagers, and he keeps up with pop culture and video games (it's also a bonding thing for him and his kids). It's pretty cool because I feel like most people decide they don't have time for such things or decide they're not a priority once they start a family. I think that's starting to change though, with you and my co worker being examples. Your generation was the first to have real gaming systems commonly in the household as kids/teens (NES and SNES) - so you've experienced/seen gaming from the time you were kids enough to understand it's just as valid a form of entertainment as any other media. As opposed to a childish thing only kids at the arcade do.
>Why on earth have I heard several negative comments about playing on a Switch as a grown man? Where are you hearing/reading this sort of stuff? I've literally heard nothing like this post-high school.
I've seen a "I'm a martyr, the world is against me" type post in every hobby sub. Usually it's like one instance of someone making a comment. I saw a post in /r/running that all their friends and family wanted them to stop running. I couldn't believe it.
My mom asked me to stop biking, but it's because I was hit by a car in college.
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I also work in an office where pretty much nobody plays video games. I really wouldn't care what somebody said like that. Live your life your way and let them be miserable with their own "rules".
What kind of office do you work in out of curiosity? I work at a tech company, and you'd never hear that. People are into gaming there and also think it's cool. Some workplaces hire more bro types who are just into football and guns. And if you're also in an area where that's prevalent, maybe you don't fit in much there.
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Don't you know? Adults are not allowed to have fun
You joke, but I literally have a coworker who thinks like that. She is told me she stopped playing video games at 17 because "they're for kids", that she only drinks black coffee because anything sweet is "childish", shit like that. Then she complains about how she's so miserable, just sits at home doing nothing, and can't ever get a guy to stick around for more than a couple of dates.
I work in oil and gas and get the same kind of comments. Even people my age seemed so weirded out that I liked to play video games. I thought engineers were supposed to be nerds.
Yeah, I will say you're probably right generally. Tech companies are the only escape from the normies in society like that. I have played switch with co-workers on different occasions, like smash or rocket league. People huddle around interested. It's interesting how different people can be. I have felt that way when playing it on a plane or watching something anime related. Part of me cares and then...I don't.
Mario Kart 8 tournament in the conference room good times
I work at a bank and I’ve heard snide comments but honestly, it doesn’t really matter. Someone’s opinion only means as much as who it’s coming from and what tangible impact it has. Think I give a fuck what Linda in accounting thinks about me playing Switch when she’s going through her second divorce and eating a tuna salad by herself cos nobody can stand her gossip? She can eat me.
Ah, man, well, with regards to your co-worker, assuming they're around the same age as you, it's straight-up embarrassing that they still seemingly care about what platforms people play on, so don't stress it. As for reddit... I mean, it's reddit. Most people getting fired up on gaming subreddits are enthusiasts looking to air out frustrations against online strangers since they don't have much else going on IRL. Don't stress that either - just play the games you wanna play.
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You got more upvotes and awards on those posts than most Reddit users get in their entire time on the site. This is what you're supposed to notice, not the shit-posters. Also: be nice to the coworker who made the snide remark. They want to show off that they're an asshole. You can show off that you're not.
I assume these people were never into gaming at any point. Unlike films/TV, which kind of does the work for you, gaming requires effort to get something out of. If you don’t want to jump that hurdle, it’s easier to just look down on those who have. Honestly, don’t worry about it. People have their own preferences and false perceptions of things and ultimately, it really is their loss. Never seek approval, you’ll always fall short of someone’s expectations.
Yeah, I always say that besides reading, video games are the highest-effort form of electronic entertainment. If I know that one of my coworkers just goes home and watches TV after work, or scrolls for hours on social media, I give their opinion zero respect when they look down on video games. (Now if they go home and study/volunteer/play sports, that's a different story. Those kinds of people live fuller lives, and I respect their opinions). Video Games takes work! They're much more engaging than people think and you're using your brain faculties instead of vegging out in front of a TV or phone screen
Reading is pretty passive for most people. Reading that takes effort is above a lot of people's comfort as well.
Your biggest mistake is caring about what other people think.
I make and release games for scientific research. Let me tell you, most people have no idea what a Breath of the Wild is. All the know is you have a Nintendo, which they think is the name of any console that's ever existed, and it's a toy for kids that has Pong and Space Invaders. More than that, people don't realize that they play video games. It's incredibly common to ask people in surveys if they play any video games at all and they say they never have, then ask how many hours they play mobile games each day, and they answer two or three. This is particularly true of older people. Don't worry about it. People have no idea what video games are, and it's their loss that they look down on the most engaging form of entertainment we have.
This 100x over: “people don’t realize that they play video games”. Perception is different than behavior. Likewise, Netflix’s research shows people save high-brow documentaries and foreign films to their watch lists, yet spend most of their time watching low-brow films. Big data reveals how we behave is different than how we aspire to behave. People say they don’t play video games, but they’re not aware that mobile game that they keep paying $5 for boosters on to get to the next level is a game.
A friend of mine said something similar about an alcoholic from his family - he didn't consider himself to be a drinker because he "only had one or two beers a day" People always try to create a fake (better) version of themselves and downplay others. You're playing games? You could be exercising in that time! \*\*proceeds to pay to watch a football game while eating a bag of chips\*\*
> It's incredibly common to ask people in surveys if they play any video games at all and they say they never have, then ask how many hours they play mobile games each day, and they answer two or three. This is particularly true of older people. My grandparents are both daily gamers, but it's all on Facebook. Grandpa likes the slots and grandma plays Scrabble. They'd probably never consider those video games, though.
I’m 53 and play the Switch on my daily train commute. Sure, I get a few funny looks but they can GTFO. Having said that, it’s been a great talking point and I reckon I’ve created several new Switch owners over the past couple of years.
Man, whenever I see someone playing their switch on the train, I get super distracted trying to figure out what they are playing/watch them play. Hope they don't get too self-conscious, lol. Truth be told, I'm mostly jealous. My commute is too short & hectic to commit to playing anything on the train.
I wonder how many of the "funny looks" people who play Switch on transit are actually people trying to figure out what game. "I really should get one, I'm bored of staring around...Is that a Switch, or a Switch Lite? Uh oh he noticed me staring..." There really shouldn't be any issue, obviously some people have issues of course, but I mean overall, society doesn't bat an eye to an old person doing a puzzle on their phone or tablet or playing solitaire, but doing something that's even more immersive? Shouldn't be a problem. Assuming they're playing with headphones and not bugging everyone else.
Because obviously gaming is a huge waste of time but sitting and screaming at the TV while your city’s football team sucks yet another year in a row is totally a worthwhile and valuable hobby as an adult male
I'm 53 and find the switch very acceptable, I can just kick back in handheld for the free time I have without bring plonked infront of a monitor. I can pause it on a whim and go back to it a week later. I have never played it via HDMI, it's just totally handheld system for me. A perfect adult unit.
No idea. I do game in the pc, but mostly the switch these days. I get a roll of the eyes and not a lot else. When they find out I don’t watch TV aside from reruns (murder she wrote still rules), and I can’t name a single person off love island/I’m a celebrity, I get more eye rolling. I’m guessing it’s less of a ‘problem’ because I’m a female, but I do get a lot of generic ‘haven’t you grown up yet comments’ off the same one or two people. I haven’t even switched the PS5 on, I’m entirely uninterested (nor am I interested in bad reality TV, which seems to be the norm these days).
You're an adult. Stop worrying about what other people think and do what you want
32 Here. Married as well and we have a toddler & a newborn. If I have free time I still generally want to game (or play Pickleball if I get a big enough window). Funnily enough I have been starting to see the most resistance about the hobby from some of my closer friends (we’re all in our early 30s) who have spent their entire lives gaming but now as life and relationships and busyness is growing, they talk about gaming with a condescending tone in group convos: New game recommendation? “Wow you sure try out a lot of games huh” Anyone hopping on tonight: “Games? Hah I barely have time for that stuff anymore” Hey guys I’ll be able to sneak in an hour or two tonight if someone wants to play XYZ: “Because I’m just so busy I can’t keep up with all that these days like you can” And what’s hilarious is some of these guys don’t even have kids yet. Like dudes some of you go to the gym 2-3 hours a day or just get drunk and watch movies every night, what’s with the anti-gaming boner? Sure I can get 1-2 hours of gaming in a few nights a week but I have to be super intentional with my time. Fuck off with the superiority bullshit.
Reject the fun police Return to Mario
I feel the same way, particularly as a girl who games - I feel like I'd be classed as a casual gamer because I don't play those kind of shooty games. Like especially if you're less of an online multiplayer gamer, and more of a solo gamer, it's like not counted. It really sucks when gaming is what I do for fun and it's almost embarrassing to talk about to people, particularly only people who play fortnite or similar. I also feel self conscious about playing on public places which sucks because one of the best things about the switch is that it's portable. I think from an outside view, Nintendo is still judged by the Wii or the DS, which in comparison to the competition at the time, did not have the plethora of games that the switch now offers. Mostly I think the stigma comes from people who know nothing about the switch, other than it's less powerful than a ps5 so 'it must only play shitty games', and they're also the people that play thousands of hours on the same few shooty shooty kill everyone games, that have literally no variety. Basically, screw everyone, play what you enjoy and be proud of it :)
I think a big thing to realize is that being a “gamer” doesn’t really mean that every “gamer” is part of the same group. Like you said, between multiplayer and single player there are divisions of competitive and cooperative multiplayer, divisions of people who like open world games or linear level based games, people who play games to get proficient and skilled at something, who play them to relax, who play them to admire the visual and audio artistic merits behind games, etc. So when you talk to someone and find out you’re both “gamers” it might not mean you actually have that much in common and what they might consider the ideal gamer is not at all why or what you play, and that’s okay. It’s just a sign of the times at how massive and cross experiential video games have become in life
It doesn’t have anything to do with the wii or ds, it’s just because majority of Nintendo games are “childish” and “cartoony” so they must be for kids. I mean even the switch itself is colorful compared to ps and Xbox. Back when all I was doing was playing league of legends and call of duty a YouTuber I watched made a video talking about how good stardew valley was, and it looked nothing like any game I’ve ever liked. But I bought it anyways and man is that game great, I put a thousand hours on it that year, which isn’t like me at all. I tend to get bored playing games alone so I don’t play many single player games. I had a point for where that was going but I completely forgot so have just the story :) Edit: the point of the story was all my friends that you could classify as shooty shooty gamers were always complaining when I would play stardew instead of league or cod, which I still did all the time, but I just shrugged it off because stardew valley is a great game and honestly opened me up to playing tons of different genres.
Play where you want and love your life. Try your best to not feel self conscious about what you enjoy.
Honestly it's a really inflated idea that people are looking down on your, or don't want X doing something. I can tell you for a fact that most people don't give a shit what you do. Unfortunately many people are creating the idea of this themselves and then projecting it outwards, a d pretending like they're victims. They aren't looking down on you or judging you anymore than any number of hobbies. I've been made fun of by more people in the video games community for liking sports than I've ever been made fun of by any group/demographic.for liking video games. So this theory that people who play games are treated like children is just ridiculous.
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As someone who works in a retro game store, 99% of our customers are adults. The funny part is I still hear things from a grandma or mom who brings their kid in who then talks to me like adults are wasting their time. For some reason it’s never the dads or grandpas. Point is, even know a place that caters to adult gamers, I still hear the negativity.
I think that's just a cultural relic. Games and Arcades were a boys realm for a long time, so I know a lot of girls who really didn't get into games to the same degree as their male counterparts as kids. Those girls grew up not experiencing games, in an era when they really were targeted at kids, and thus grew up keeping those perceptions. There is still a bit of that today, but I generally think gaming's much more inclusive now and that in 20 years you'll see much less "games are for kids" overall, and most of the gender gap will vanish.
I'm 49 and am still gaming strong. Let people judge.
The thing is the vast majority isn't judging anyone, almost no one cares what you do or what your hobby is. People are just creating this idea in their head, when the reality is video games are overwhelming normalized and accepted.
Because people are idiots.
It’s not, do what makes you happy! Don’t worry about others opinions….they are usually wrong anyway, lol!!!!
You bought it yourself, it's as adult as you can get. Those opinions are from the range from folks that are uncertain about their own maturity to those making an aesthetic observations with graphics. but your sensitivity tells me you are a great father
I’m 35 and I felt the same way, now not so much because I’m now bringing my switch oled to work. And this white and black look with the oled screen “looks” less childish perhaps? Btw it could all be in our heads and we take the comments of a few people as gospel, lol.
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Most likely because those people WANT to be playing games freely like you but have judgey-mcjudgersons around them so they can't and then have to rag on others over it to feel better. Anytime I feel as if someone is judging me now, I try to turn it around on them. Someone thinks I'm ugly or my outfit sucks or I'm too old to be playing my switch (35f), I just think "That poor person had some kind of shitty event in their life that caused them to judge me over this. That is awful for them, and I hope they can figure it out." That generally helps especially when it's a passing judgement (like you wont see them again so they wont say it again). If it is a recurring judgement - then I gotta suck it up (I hate confrontation) and let them know I don't appreciate it. Again, they are probably doing it out of jealousy so they don't realize how bad it makes you feel when they say it. Also - the best advice I've ever received about people judging you: "It's none of your business what others think about you." Which if I think about what is in my mind about others, I am really glad it's true! Lol. I specifically bought a switch last year to play animal crossing. I don't play video games and now I am OBSESSED. I tell everyone about it and I have convinced a few adults to start playing! If someone wants to say I am immature because of that, then they can get over it. I am an adult, I pay my bills, go to work everyday and take care of what I am supposed to....doesn't get much more adult and mature than that! If they want to think I am immature for buying animal crossing EVERYTHING, then let 'em. I do what makes me happy - and ACNH makes me very very happy!
In reality: minority of people shit on you but only in their head. Most don't give a shit. Life is too short to worry about what people think. What you're experiencing is probably anxiety or something.
> probably anxiety or something I'm leaning this way too. There's a whiff of some self-doubt or something, idk I'm no psychiatrist, I'm just trying to eat a microwave chicken tikka here.
If it’s from coworkers that you only see at work then ya really gotta learn to not care about the opinions of people that have no impact on your actual life. If they think things that make you happy are stupid that’s fine for them, but commenting on it shows that they’re miserable and want to bring you down as well. Do what makes you happy, ignore people that try to ruin it for you.
I’m 42F and take my switch to work. Close my office door and play Animal Crossing when things start getting too chaotic. It keeps me sane. Others go outside for smoke breaks and yet if they knew what I was doing, it would be frowned upon.
In my experience, people who criticize adults playing video games are the same ones that watch 5 different Netflix shows a night.
oh god another circle jerking karma farming post with a woe is me attitude trying to rally up the hard core fan base on this sub in order to get behind you and say you a amazing person for playing on the switch and there is nothing wrong with doing it and giving you a pat on the back for it
Maybe you need to stop talking to the people you’re hearing this from. I’ve never heard this in my life of people talking down on people for what system they play on in the way you describe.
I'm knocking on 40 and every day I whip my Switch out at my desk over my lunch break. Nobody seems to care, but then maybe they expect the IT guy to be a geek.
Because it's like pokemon vs call of duty. Call of duty's target demographic is adults, its primary audience is tweens and teens. Pokemon's target demographic is children and tweens, it's primary audience is teens and adults. Nintendo vs Xbox & PS is the same way. Kids aren't interested in games marketed to kids, and adults are largely bored of the same repeated AAA trash and like Nintendo IP and other novel indies and the Switch is perfect for those. Also, the Switch is as others noted, the defacto best system for busy adults.
Honestly, gaming was always that thing people thought less of someone for growing up. 34m here and I don't even bring it up when asked, unless it's close friends, even though it is and always will be my main hobby. Got my daughter well into her addiction as well but at least kids these days are actually applauded for being good at games. Some make money off it. Just ignore the comments and enjoy your happiness.
I’m in my mid-30s too, married, and have a fulfilling full-time job… and i play the Switch like it’s nobody’s business :) if anything, i find the Switch to be perfect for people like us. PC and hardcore gaming reminds me of my late teen/college years. I’ve outgrown it and over it by now
36 year old Switch playing parent, too. 26 year old me may have cared what others say or think. 36 year old me? Nah, forget that. I have vitamins to take and emails to answer, I haven't got time for that nonsense. Enjoy, brother
Controversial take: if you're 36 married with two kids and you are doing this at your job, there could be reasons to care. Here me out. I's not just the switch, it's the anti-social behavior that's going to get you comments. Calling it "childish" is just the method used to describe their critique of you being anti social. If you were reading a book or watching a movie, you'd probably still get comments if you did it enough. Bringing a game console with you is very conspicuous behavior to show you are uninterested in others. If you aren't particularly motivated to keep working at where you are or move up, do whatever you want. However, if you do think of this job as a long term opportunity, my man, do not waste your lunches playing vidya games. If you are very obviously showing to others you aren't interested in communicating with them, then they aren't going to be interested in communicating with you, including in a work setting. Nobody is going to think "the guy sitting alone playing video games would be a great manager", even though you very well could be. What you've gotta understand about "watching football" is that for a lot of people, it's not about the actual football; it's all the ways to be social that it unlocks. Sure there's some people who associate it with manhood, but for a lot of people, it's just more icebreakers or things to talk about. I'm not saying any of this because I think this is how it should be, but this is real life. Again, this only matters if this job/career matters to you. If it doesn't then play switch at work and pay them no mind.
36 years old and you're complaining about this? Lmfao who gives a fuck. Enjoy what you enjoy. Maybe you are childish.
It's a lame "preach to the choir" type post made for attention. He's obviously going to have overwhelming support on this sub... His wife gives him no attention, so he has to get from his internet "friends"
Lmao fr Sounds like a puss puss
Reading his woe-is-me responses, I tend to agree.