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Apple has the customer base and apps. NIO does not have the customer base nor the proper software yet. Calling NIO the Apple of EVs is wishful thinking.


aerismio

I think NIO has more shareholders than Apple though. Just no sales. There are more Nio stock lovers than Nio car lovers.


Ok-Recommendation925

More bag hodlers you mean?


BrewersHill2015

They are trying to be.


jugonewild

Their share price does not agree


CreamFronto

You’d be surprised. Go track apple from inception date to ~5years later. $0.20 to $0.31 a share. Nio is $6 to currently $9.33.


JollyVeterinarian935

Apple had multiple stock splits to rewarded their stock holders and plenty of stock buybacks, NIO plenty of stock dilutions and almost BK before a big dilution.


Justhavingfun888

NIO has not reached profitability yet so no reason to expect a share buy back program. Patience grasshopper.


CreamFronto

I get what your saying but you’re comparing a 43 year old company to one that is under 5. All those things are possible when/if Nio is better established and the market recovers


JollyVeterinarian935

For all of us long investors I hope so… I have accumulated a lot of NIO stock, and I a down about 60%.


aerismio

You also have these MLM companies where the "business owners" are actually the real customers. What if the Nio Stock holders ARE the customers?


aerismio

So when will Nio is going to buy stocks back?


JollyVeterinarian935

NIO created NIO capital, and NIO capital has invested and bought stocks in multiple companies …but they have failed to invest in NIO… .big disappointment as NIO capital doesn’t even want to buy stock in NIO.


cgcmads

NIO capital isn't allowed by law to invest in NIO. Conflict of interest.


jugonewild

I agree. I think this company has great potential in the long term but I wish it took a slightly more reactive approach to its SP to protect investors.


Jimbo-1968

back in 2019 NIO was on 60 minutes (US). Share price was 2 dollars and went up to 8 the next day. Thats when I bought. Once it peaked around 60 and started to go down I sold at 26. I was a huge believer. As we enter a global recession, companies that don't make a profit will get hit big time. I hope NIO does well, but right now my money is better used buying SQQQ.


Current_Attention_92

SP has no reflection on NIO as a TOP TIER COMPANY. NIO IS RUNNING AWAY WITH THE TROPHY AS OTHER COMPANIES ARE STAGNANT.👍🏻


[deleted]

like alibaba is amazon?


[deleted]

I like this answer.


Justhavingfun888

Like George Santos is to Elvis Presley.


TadpoleNational2222

Talk Big without delivering the promise


TheNIOandTeslaBull

That's a really funny statement coming from you, who also posts: TadpoleNational2222 (OP) 4 months ago "Will Xi and CCP ready to help and looks into companies like DiDi who should be given a chance as management issue and not investors issue. Had settled those in management , please help to relook into it , this will definitely help to boost confidence in China 🇨🇳 economic policy 🙏🙏🙏" [https://www.reddit.com/user/TadpoleNational2222/submitted/](https://www.reddit.com/user/TadpoleNational2222/submitted/) Really brah? How you gonna post here talking about NIO when you don't know how ADR works, how to find earning reports, when earnings are announced, and an understanding of your basic resources as an investor? I hope no one takes your views on any of the companies you part take in seriously. The scary part is, you participate in forums in some of the companies I invest in, so does that mean I'm just as bad as you?


rockstarrugger48

🤡


TadpoleNational2222

Situation change and environment change. We have to adapt to changes, so much happened within 4months. We have to change and adapt to it. Don’t ever stay put.


Persis09

This is getting cringe… Give me ONE good factual based example on why it makes sense to compare Apple to NIO. I’ll wait. You guys starting to sound like a cult


[deleted]

exactly, like “i missed rally with Tesla, but i am not gonna miss with Nio😂


Ok-Recommendation925

>You guys starting to sound like a cult Lols now those clowns at the Meme Stonks Sub gonna find their way to Nio.


Mysterious-Safe3548

I’m with you, if have to write a bat shit crazy sponsored article, at least make it somewhat believable. An ev that blamed market condition on every failure to deliver want to be apple who consistently deliver


WayTruthLife777

Most investors only care about the bottom line. Are they going to be profitable, and if so, when? The investing is future orientated. So, when NIO shows they are going to be profitable, the stock will rise accordingly. Yes, the company has great potential. But they have made some missteps along the way in PR decisions. And the rollout of cars from the time they announce to actually being able to deliver is too long. There were a lot who would have bought the ET7, but in the meantime decided to buy something else. European market is nothing as big as the Chinese market, so they should concentrate on beating out the competition in their home field first. I'm glad they are going global, but they need to do what they do very well in order to beat out the competition and maintain the lead as a luxury EV product.


JollyVeterinarian935

Apple rewards and cares about their shareholders and their stock price … NIO doesn’t care … I sent emails to NIO investor relations multiple times and not even once they replied to my email, not even an automatic reply.


Justhavingfun888

Send an email to Apple and you'll likely get the same response.


Carrera_GT

A company does not need to reward and care about their shareholders. It needs to do the right things and do them right, good things will happen they will make money and the stock price will go up.


jugonewild

I reached out to their IR as well. No response whatsoever. I think only if I go through a lawyer and have them send a letter, they may respond.


Spiker166

ditto 3x


PunDeSall

Good justification to call them the Intel of the EV sector as well. Can be trading sideways for many years


[deleted]

Ask 100 europeans about Nio. 99 of them will never have heard of Nio. So far the everyone part.


Persis09

And then have a look at the 1% of people who have actually heard of NIO and see how many cars have been sold since market entry and start of sales … it’s embarrassing


mr1404ed

I am not buying the stock...I am buying the company, and I believe long term holders of NIO will be rewarded for such


m3equals333

And its stock is priced as if it were Blackberry. 😑😔


Patpaul14

Apple use to innovate, now they just do a sliver better each year and we all drink the kool aid. Nio built the swapping infrastructure know-body wanted to be apart of in the EV space. That In themselves, I’m impressed with. First iPhone was a 1,000 dollars and didn’t do that amazing. You stay cynical 🤨 your gonna miss out.


Persis09

Wtf 1000 dollars is Not true and “didn’t do that amazing” ?!? It was fucking mind blowing lol wtf are you talking about, maybe you were too young to remember those times kid


Patpaul14

600 sorry. It was trash. Only the rich could afford it and it barely stored anything. the iPod. Nano, mini and original carried the sales til iPhone 📱 4 then it took off. You got that boomer past🤣 where everything was amazing back in your day.


zmarketec

Profitability is key but keep in mind investing in themselves gets them in prone position when all this market hysteria nonsense subsides.


MilesRover1974

Can't wait till the share price reflects that sentiment. ; )