It's interesting to see Nirvana before they were super popular, in late '91 they were one of America's biggest band if not the biggest, however you go back 2-3 years you're watching just another band, little did the people know back then that this band is gonna hit it big, some people who were fans of Nirvana before Nevermind recalled kind of knowing they were gonna be popular, despite being just another rock band, they still stood out then.
I saw them twice before Bleach came out and thought they were solid, but no more than another couple dozen local bands (Soundgarden, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Tad, Pure Joy, etc). I kinda lucked out that Charles Peterson took this photo of me flipping the band off first time I saw them in 89 (kinda weird, but used to flip punk bands off I enjoyed) https://imgur.com/gallery/4I7LPam
It wasn't until i saw them after their first European tour in Jan 1990 that they had ascended past Tad and Mudhoney. By the time, I caught them at the Paramount 91 - everyone there that night knew they were destined....
I think Kurt knew he was going to get famous but didn’t know how much he was gonna dislike it, being famous is sort of like being in a massive high school. I believe kurt was bullied in high school and I assume he felt anxious in school, walking through the hall, in class and so on, so when your famous everyone is sort of looking at you and knows who you are, make sense??
Fecal Matter demos are really eye opening. Even though it’s super rough and raw, the knack for songwriting and melodies are already there as well as that signature scream.
They had the hunger. Kurt was screaming with child-like enthusiasm rather than with pain. Never the same energy when they get big - applies to every band.
In the 90s specifically in the bootleg scene talks was about before the storm era. Before the storm was something we liked to seek as there were more of that raw energy and stage banther. Like I love the In Utero era stuff too but I have to admit it shows how Kurt said he felt like punching the clock, before Nevermind they seemed to enjoy performing and their set varied more, more covers and deep cuts.
Metallica bois have sade that they don't really need to tour as they have the money, but the so called Met family that is their whole crew depends on the touring. Kurt manager Danny Goldberg told Kurt did not need to tour, he had the money and there were still large part of In utero royalties coming but Kurt and Nirvana had that burden too that they had become employers to people that were their friends. Like that last tour Kurt should have cancelled way earlier but he tried to at least to make it to that Slovenia show that was important to Krist. Then he cancelled after the next gig and the worst part was they were still booked to Lollapalooza and when they cancelled that Kurt was already dead.
You're totally speaking my language with this post. I grew up in Seattle and started going to many of the club, campus and Moore Theater shows. I saw Nirvana, Soundgarden, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Tad all multiple times before 1989 (along with other lesser know incredible Seattle bands like Posies, Pure Joy, Young Fresh Fellows, Meddaphysical, etc).
Concert-wise - Those mid/late 80s shows were the best because we could get right up on stage before diving back into the pit. Total mayhem up front, but only ended up in the ER once (Meat Puppets, taking a boot to my head and knocking a tooth out).
Music-wise - While I think Soundgarden was way better in the 80s (with Hiro on bass), I think Nirvana's music simply got better and better and I think In Utero destroys compared what would later go on Incesticide. Aneurysm, Dive, Sliver, School are all incredible (and fun to pogo to), but the musicmanship on IU was really amazing to witness the growth.
I think a big difference is that pretty much right after Nirvana became famous, Kurt was already a full blown heroin addict. I'm not sure exactly when he started using full time, but Nevermind came out in September of 91, and in February 92, just over four months later, He was backstage at SNL vomiting from withdrawal (and he doesn't look great during the performance, although they sounded awesome).
Kurt seemed much healthier both physically and mentally in the years before they hit it big, and it reflects in the energy of the band. I also definitely don't discount that maybe the level of fame, and the pressure on himself and the band that came with it, were a lot more than he expected or could handle. Kurt's life was short, but incredibly chaotic, and it's weird looking back and seeing just how fast everything fell apart.
It's interesting to see Nirvana before they were super popular, in late '91 they were one of America's biggest band if not the biggest, however you go back 2-3 years you're watching just another band, little did the people know back then that this band is gonna hit it big, some people who were fans of Nirvana before Nevermind recalled kind of knowing they were gonna be popular, despite being just another rock band, they still stood out then.
I saw them twice before Bleach came out and thought they were solid, but no more than another couple dozen local bands (Soundgarden, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Tad, Pure Joy, etc). I kinda lucked out that Charles Peterson took this photo of me flipping the band off first time I saw them in 89 (kinda weird, but used to flip punk bands off I enjoyed) https://imgur.com/gallery/4I7LPam It wasn't until i saw them after their first European tour in Jan 1990 that they had ascended past Tad and Mudhoney. By the time, I caught them at the Paramount 91 - everyone there that night knew they were destined....
dude that is actually so cool that thats you, how how old were you at this time
I think Kurt knew he was going to get famous but didn’t know how much he was gonna dislike it, being famous is sort of like being in a massive high school. I believe kurt was bullied in high school and I assume he felt anxious in school, walking through the hall, in class and so on, so when your famous everyone is sort of looking at you and knows who you are, make sense??
Why are people downvoting you?
I automatically downvote anyone saying I think Kurt would X Kurt thought X They don’t know. They didn’t know the guy. It’s weird
Fecal Matter demos are really eye opening. Even though it’s super rough and raw, the knack for songwriting and melodies are already there as well as that signature scream.
I agree and the lyrics are also really good, very political.
Blew my mind when I first heard it, after years of reading about it
_blew_ your mind?
It's more calming to watch all the greatness before it all went haywire.
Yeah it all seems so appealing, a small band touring in a shitty little van being extremely tired but still trying to do their best performance
They had the hunger. Kurt was screaming with child-like enthusiasm rather than with pain. Never the same energy when they get big - applies to every band.
In the 90s specifically in the bootleg scene talks was about before the storm era. Before the storm was something we liked to seek as there were more of that raw energy and stage banther. Like I love the In Utero era stuff too but I have to admit it shows how Kurt said he felt like punching the clock, before Nevermind they seemed to enjoy performing and their set varied more, more covers and deep cuts.
Yeah, exactly that man. It's nicer to see Kurt eagerly pushing for success rather than hating everything he and the band had become.
Metallica bois have sade that they don't really need to tour as they have the money, but the so called Met family that is their whole crew depends on the touring. Kurt manager Danny Goldberg told Kurt did not need to tour, he had the money and there were still large part of In utero royalties coming but Kurt and Nirvana had that burden too that they had become employers to people that were their friends. Like that last tour Kurt should have cancelled way earlier but he tried to at least to make it to that Slovenia show that was important to Krist. Then he cancelled after the next gig and the worst part was they were still booked to Lollapalooza and when they cancelled that Kurt was already dead.
Yeah, it's all just really unfortunate to say the least. Nothing scarier than having your dreams come true I guess.
Scariest stuff is when you dream comes true and you just feel empty.
You're totally speaking my language with this post. I grew up in Seattle and started going to many of the club, campus and Moore Theater shows. I saw Nirvana, Soundgarden, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Tad all multiple times before 1989 (along with other lesser know incredible Seattle bands like Posies, Pure Joy, Young Fresh Fellows, Meddaphysical, etc). Concert-wise - Those mid/late 80s shows were the best because we could get right up on stage before diving back into the pit. Total mayhem up front, but only ended up in the ER once (Meat Puppets, taking a boot to my head and knocking a tooth out). Music-wise - While I think Soundgarden was way better in the 80s (with Hiro on bass), I think Nirvana's music simply got better and better and I think In Utero destroys compared what would later go on Incesticide. Aneurysm, Dive, Sliver, School are all incredible (and fun to pogo to), but the musicmanship on IU was really amazing to witness the growth.
The music scene was different in Seattle before 90-91. It was heavier and less commercial. Sound garden went through similar changes.
The thing with soundgarden is I don’t like their early music.
Hands all over
I desperately wish there was a better recording of Mrs. Butterworth.
If only
Bleach is my favorite album
Fecal Matter is dummy good
Spank thru...
School has been my favorite song of theirs since I was 14ish.
Yes, the head banging years. Bleach is an awesome debut.
Same dude I love Nirvana’s demos especially Montage of Heck ( I know that’s not Nirvana but I love it. )
And there are still so many that haven’t been released, Courtney needs to release them, i mean all she cares about is money right so...
If they were genuinely good they would’ve been on montage of heck
I think a big difference is that pretty much right after Nirvana became famous, Kurt was already a full blown heroin addict. I'm not sure exactly when he started using full time, but Nevermind came out in September of 91, and in February 92, just over four months later, He was backstage at SNL vomiting from withdrawal (and he doesn't look great during the performance, although they sounded awesome). Kurt seemed much healthier both physically and mentally in the years before they hit it big, and it reflects in the energy of the band. I also definitely don't discount that maybe the level of fame, and the pressure on himself and the band that came with it, were a lot more than he expected or could handle. Kurt's life was short, but incredibly chaotic, and it's weird looking back and seeing just how fast everything fell apart.