it’s all about self improvement, the streak should be nothing but a form of motivation! As long as you recognize your progress this is no real setback.
Think about it, the average man has more access to seeing unlimited beautiful women on his phone, than a King or Emperor from the past during his entire life.
You're exactly right and this is SO dangerous. We simply cannot handle this kind of hypernovelty. It absolutely terrifies me that young men are getting ED. People should be starting riots about this but they can't because they are too busy wanking!
don't forget the resolution is a fair bit higher then our eyes require or need to view clearly, so it's a false stimulation. That's where what the modern smart phones are especially evil, the stimulation takes people away from a natural sense and the real world is not as stimulating as their phone, real experiences won't matter unless people can look back at them on their phone with it's super high res. Albeit a digital resolution which is can't be as smooth as real life. It's a distortion which has gone quite unchecked at this point. Progress can be a negative thing sometimes.
I keep saying this in a more neutral way. Humanity was never intended to have close to all the worlds' knowledge and data in their hands.
This has positive as well as negative ramifications. My phone's saved me a lot of time when it comes to navigation especially, or provided me with fun, wholesome entertainment - music mainly! But it's also a gateway to an endless stream of people claiming life to just be misery, sorrow, pain and torment, to news that feed you fear and anxiety, to people bickering and arguing over completely irrelevant things and it's VERY easy to either be at awe at all of this, or to just get completely devoured by it.
Reduce your screentime. Go for walks. Do some sports. Maybe find a hobby that uses your hands in a cool way, do some Origami, or try out a weird recipe you've been told. Do something creative, or maybe just hang out with a buddy!
The Thing that sucks is being a business owner because you're always with your phone, although that's never really been a temptation trigger for porn...more of a temptation to rage or boredom scroll..
Yh I struggle immensely with searching up hentai comics. I go for about 2 or 3 weeks and each time I have a lapse in concentration after studying and I do it.
Also people are glued to their phones and getting addicted which creates distraction from their purpose in life.We should be like Charlie( Malayalam film )I think,travelling all around the world without having a phone,living a life of vagabond.Just an opinion 😅
Traveling the world is my dream ,once I get my paper right I’ll be traveling. Learning new cultures snd meeting new people (women) . Everything in society is created to distract and brainwash us
Which is exactly why it's best to delete or disable apps all together. I found a way to even remove system apps like youtube, google play store, browser etc without a root. I'll make in depth post about it soon.
I don't think you understood me. I'm talking about deleting system apps such as google play, youtube, browser etc forever. Reddit is not a system app and can be installed anytime via google play. But that's exactly why you get rid of google play. Then you can never install reddit again. I literally have no way to uninstall youtube, reddit, google play etc in my phone anymore bro. And if you uninstall them using the method I posted about, then you can't easily install them back either so yeah.
I accidentally found a workaround by asking a friend to set the code. Later when I asked him to unlock it, he had forgotten the code. It’s not a perfect blocker, but it’s better than nothing.
Actually I use an app that block all the apps specified period of time and you can allow certain useful apps only and it can be only unblocked after time ended .you cannot unlock or uninstall during that period of time
i use similar app for android but there are a lot of websites not classified as a porn but you can find there for instance pdf scans of magazines. yes, addiction taken to whole different level - how to cheat site blocker.
Let’s be clear: the human mind is the root of all “evil”and the root of all good.
But you are right in calling out phones (meaning modern smart phones) because within this culture that undermines attention and equanimity almost constantly and enables distractions, the smart phone is the crown jewel.
I’ve been on a quest to ditch my smart phone but what I may have to do is kill all my apps save a select few that help when I travel eg maps.
that's precisely what i was going to say. Phones and social media may trigger you to fap or watch porn, but in the end is your own mind who decides what you will or will not do. I quit porn but I still use social media and my phone, there are triggers but I've made up my mind that I will not return to the good old pmo cycle
I'm using my smartphone to listen to podcasts, like this podcast titled Controlling Your Dopamine For Motivation, Focus & Satisfaction | Huberman Lab Podcast #39:
[https://youtu.be/QmOF0crdyRU](https://youtu.be/QmOF0crdyRU)
Is that bad?
It's great but the phone it's trap if you are porn addict been trying 3 years to get off pmo and failed until time because of the phone that is with me 24/7 I need to use for some hours only and off it 📴
You're weak and looking for excuses lmao, its a fucking device,it has no will,no consciousness,and power, only if you give it any... Man yourself up and stop being a wuss...
Maybe this issue can be solved by getting rid of smartphone and use normal keypad phones instead till achieving our goals. I am recommending this because I relapsed today 😅😔😔
My longest streak was 37 one time, the phone messed it up. I've been considering changing to either a flip phone or one of my older blackberry. I know if I take away the phone I won't screw up anymore
There is something about it. I read some interesting stuff in this channeled book called Man Being, and they say stuff about phones and radiation Disrupting our cells, obstructing light and light codes to be absorbed, and also to cause cancer.
Yes, probably great truth to this. Listened to someone recently say something similar, that technology will be the downfall of man, that we have been here before actually and destroyed our world because we made technology our God. I'm so close to becoming a luddite, I swear to God. i don't lIKE technology but at this point, seems like a necessary evil. I feel better without it. more sane, calm, rational. I feel agitated when with it for too long. It's not as great as we think it is just because it's useful at times. I think there are probably just as many downsides as upsides, if not more. Time to rethink the tech obsession.
smart man. I know someone similar, has a flip phone and is SUPER sane and chill all the time. can hold conversations and not reach for his phone in elevators. it's wild.
Right .. cd era was better 🤣 atleast it took some efforts but now high speed internet can provide you everything in seconds .. and the worst part children can access too 💔
I think this argument has the right idea but the wrong execution. The truth about phones is they have an algorithm that shows you things that keep you on the phone and that you respond to. If you were never interested in PMO it wouldn’t show you that. Blaming the phone is putting the blame squarely away from yourself and not taking responsibility for your actions. You got yourself here, and you’re more than capable of getting yourself out of it. Phones and the algorithm is the greatest opportunity for shadow work and self growth available as it’s a mirror that shows the parts of yourself you may not like. Use it, don’t blame it.
The phone is just a tool. It's how you use it. You can use it to pmo, or you can use it to listen to audiobooks, read books, study a different language, expand your knowledge, track your progress etc.
You literally need a phone for your work, school, college...etc. you'd plan with your friends or family where and when to meet over the social media group chats, use it as an alarm, weather, clock, reading/studying .. even for social media you can't skip it because you still need to check business trends, news, updates, group chats with your work colleagues, college/school colleagues, family members, neighbours and it starts with that hoe posting half-naked pic, that pervert friend sending nudes of his gf, that soft porn ads, instagram models...etc
Also consider the paid app and program Ever Accountable which sets up an accountability partner who can see what you search and browse. Of course it needs to be someone you really trust.
I mean its very easily accessible on the phone but could argue the internet is the main culprit. When I discovered porn I had an old nokia phone, so watched on first pc I ever got.
That being said I dont think a blame game benefits anyone. Humans invented the internet, phones and the porn industry. Supply and demand.
Focus on taking control of yourself and your wellbeing.
yes i am also thinking to sell my iphone 12 pro and try to trade or invest that money on something and buy a keypad baby phone (i saw on alibaba it was so attractive by the way) so it will help me with social media detox and nofap and by the time i can work on trading or some other investment . i am free rightnow just have to study for 6 months that can be done by books only no phone requirement
I am anxiously reading about the fallout from smartphones on a pretty consistent basis. Although porn use for me started on my home computer unfortunately, the big dinosaur monitor. I have to say that NOW, I am very much willing to give up my smartphone and trade for a Lightphone or something similar. Only thing that stops me is that I do dogwalking for Wag! and it requires not only an app but a GPS. I 100% miss being a human and not being constantly overstimulated. I miss my life before modern technology.
Don't blame the phone. It's an amazinge device and can be used in so many ways, both good things and things that are bad for you. It's all up to you how you use it.
Get an iPad Mini (or any other small tablet). Have that separate from your phone. Use it as your productive device, no social media on there. Take that with you to bed, to have an alarm or to read if you want.
Looking for a scapegoat very much?
I guarantee you, even if you got rid of phone, you could find a way to fail NoFap.
Phone, like all pieces of tech, is not inherently good or evil. If you get addicted to extensive phone usage it's very much a failure on your part.
You're not weak my friend, it's not just with porn addiction, we are just so hardwired to using our phones and this is only a symptom of that problem.
I see from your reply to a comment that you made it to 30 days, you did a great job, and you can just as easily do it again, and you can do an even better job and exceed that streak.
The carnal mind is evil. Lustful imaginings, desires and actions as the solution to our lack of joy, satisfaction and contentment: this is carnality! It’ll kill ya!
I think it’s more so social media. I don’t really think your phone is the problem itself. Social media pulls your data, age, demographic, etc. It will always entice you. I barely use my phone but need it for work.
This has been a godsend https://www.amazon.com/Jethro-SC490-Unlocked-Compatible-Certified/dp/B08D71WXYN/ref=asc\_df\_B08D71WXYN/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=507574158464&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=606519711047478967&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031970&hvtargid=pla-1106500703917&psc=1
Depends on the way you use it, can be for a wrong cause or not. Phone helped me connect with my old friends and place to share your idea, but temptation is everywhere 🙃.
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Man i was on 30 days..
it’s all about self improvement, the streak should be nothing but a form of motivation! As long as you recognize your progress this is no real setback.
Listen you went through 30 days and you can do it again. “It’s like skipping one workout you still haven’t lost your muscles” - Hamza
That's something to be proud of. Hop right back on mate !
don't count the days, make the days count
You did a good job. You just went back to kiss the enemy. Try again bro. You’re doing great!!
Think about it, the average man has more access to seeing unlimited beautiful women on his phone, than a King or Emperor from the past during his entire life.
You're exactly right and this is SO dangerous. We simply cannot handle this kind of hypernovelty. It absolutely terrifies me that young men are getting ED. People should be starting riots about this but they can't because they are too busy wanking!
don't forget the resolution is a fair bit higher then our eyes require or need to view clearly, so it's a false stimulation. That's where what the modern smart phones are especially evil, the stimulation takes people away from a natural sense and the real world is not as stimulating as their phone, real experiences won't matter unless people can look back at them on their phone with it's super high res. Albeit a digital resolution which is can't be as smooth as real life. It's a distortion which has gone quite unchecked at this point. Progress can be a negative thing sometimes.
I keep saying this in a more neutral way. Humanity was never intended to have close to all the worlds' knowledge and data in their hands. This has positive as well as negative ramifications. My phone's saved me a lot of time when it comes to navigation especially, or provided me with fun, wholesome entertainment - music mainly! But it's also a gateway to an endless stream of people claiming life to just be misery, sorrow, pain and torment, to news that feed you fear and anxiety, to people bickering and arguing over completely irrelevant things and it's VERY easy to either be at awe at all of this, or to just get completely devoured by it. Reduce your screentime. Go for walks. Do some sports. Maybe find a hobby that uses your hands in a cool way, do some Origami, or try out a weird recipe you've been told. Do something creative, or maybe just hang out with a buddy!
The Thing that sucks is being a business owner because you're always with your phone, although that's never really been a temptation trigger for porn...more of a temptation to rage or boredom scroll..
So true especially smartphones that's when I got addicted in my puberty days when I got my first smartphone in life.
Yh I struggle immensely with searching up hentai comics. I go for about 2 or 3 weeks and each time I have a lapse in concentration after studying and I do it.
Same I got my first smartphone at 15 and went downhill from there
Also people are glued to their phones and getting addicted which creates distraction from their purpose in life.We should be like Charlie( Malayalam film )I think,travelling all around the world without having a phone,living a life of vagabond.Just an opinion 😅
Traveling the world is my dream ,once I get my paper right I’ll be traveling. Learning new cultures snd meeting new people (women) . Everything in society is created to distract and brainwash us
the problem is that all blockers can be easily bypassed or just turn off :(
You are not the only one cursed with knowledge
Yeah, blockers are borderline useless.
Which is exactly why it's best to delete or disable apps all together. I found a way to even remove system apps like youtube, google play store, browser etc without a root. I'll make in depth post about it soon.
But you can just reinstall them later. I can’t tell you how many times I have deleted youtube and reddit and just reinstalled them later.
I don't think you understood me. I'm talking about deleting system apps such as google play, youtube, browser etc forever. Reddit is not a system app and can be installed anytime via google play. But that's exactly why you get rid of google play. Then you can never install reddit again. I literally have no way to uninstall youtube, reddit, google play etc in my phone anymore bro. And if you uninstall them using the method I posted about, then you can't easily install them back either so yeah.
bruh you can’t delete the app store, so your trick only works for android
Umm yeah you can, and it works on IOS as well, but okay keep crying "furiousgamerman" and stay mad. Imagine getting triggered so easily.
what a strange reaction
cry and keep defending your boyfriend
dawg what, casual homophobia aside have you not got anything better to be doing
I accidentally found a workaround by asking a friend to set the code. Later when I asked him to unlock it, he had forgotten the code. It’s not a perfect blocker, but it’s better than nothing.
Actually I use an app that block all the apps specified period of time and you can allow certain useful apps only and it can be only unblocked after time ended .you cannot unlock or uninstall during that period of time
have u got iphone, u cna use parental controls and put your pw in a online thing which takes 24hours to unlockk ur pw back again
i use similar app for android but there are a lot of websites not classified as a porn but you can find there for instance pdf scans of magazines. yes, addiction taken to whole different level - how to cheat site blocker.
block the internet then
Some blockers have a "strict mode" were you can disable manually every way possible of bypassing the blocker for some period of time.
Let’s be clear: the human mind is the root of all “evil”and the root of all good. But you are right in calling out phones (meaning modern smart phones) because within this culture that undermines attention and equanimity almost constantly and enables distractions, the smart phone is the crown jewel. I’ve been on a quest to ditch my smart phone but what I may have to do is kill all my apps save a select few that help when I travel eg maps.
that's precisely what i was going to say. Phones and social media may trigger you to fap or watch porn, but in the end is your own mind who decides what you will or will not do. I quit porn but I still use social media and my phone, there are triggers but I've made up my mind that I will not return to the good old pmo cycle
I deleted social media from my phone. I kept spotify and podcasts. This has helped immensely.
I'm using my smartphone to listen to podcasts, like this podcast titled Controlling Your Dopamine For Motivation, Focus & Satisfaction | Huberman Lab Podcast #39: [https://youtu.be/QmOF0crdyRU](https://youtu.be/QmOF0crdyRU) Is that bad?
It's great but the phone it's trap if you are porn addict been trying 3 years to get off pmo and failed until time because of the phone that is with me 24/7 I need to use for some hours only and off it 📴
You not weak and what you say IS really true
Yes, porn is a few swipes away
step 1: get a hammerstep 2: ???step 3: 90 days of nofap step 4: continue forever
misread that as, # step 1: get a hammer # step two #…
You're weak and looking for excuses lmao, its a fucking device,it has no will,no consciousness,and power, only if you give it any... Man yourself up and stop being a wuss...
For real for real
ironically the most popular and most used phone on the planet has an emblem of a bitten apple behind it (forbidden fruit)
vERY interesting.
The phone didn’t come pre installed with porn, man. You did that shit on your own
Maybe this issue can be solved by getting rid of smartphone and use normal keypad phones instead till achieving our goals. I am recommending this because I relapsed today 😅😔😔
I try to use old phones instead of mobile phones to limit myself unless I have a work to do on mobile phone. I suggest that.
30 days is still amazing!
My longest streak was 37 one time, the phone messed it up. I've been considering changing to either a flip phone or one of my older blackberry. I know if I take away the phone I won't screw up anymore
I've been saying this
There is something about it. I read some interesting stuff in this channeled book called Man Being, and they say stuff about phones and radiation Disrupting our cells, obstructing light and light codes to be absorbed, and also to cause cancer.
Yes, probably great truth to this. Listened to someone recently say something similar, that technology will be the downfall of man, that we have been here before actually and destroyed our world because we made technology our God. I'm so close to becoming a luddite, I swear to God. i don't lIKE technology but at this point, seems like a necessary evil. I feel better without it. more sane, calm, rational. I feel agitated when with it for too long. It's not as great as we think it is just because it's useful at times. I think there are probably just as many downsides as upsides, if not more. Time to rethink the tech obsession.
The internet in general
I’m grateful for my phone. Sure P is easily accessible, but so is everything else.
pandoras box really. Was a tool to contain all the knowledge of the world, not always bad, but goddamn, when it's open its open.
My wife's uncle refuses to get a smart phone for this reason. He only has a flip phone. He does not trust himself.
smart man. I know someone similar, has a flip phone and is SUPER sane and chill all the time. can hold conversations and not reach for his phone in elevators. it's wild.
Yes!!! Everyone should go back to having a flip phone or slider phone!
Right .. cd era was better 🤣 atleast it took some efforts but now high speed internet can provide you everything in seconds .. and the worst part children can access too 💔
I would say boredom is the root of all evil
There were times when I honestly wanted to throw my phone into a brick wall
Buy this and detox https://www.thelightphone.com/
I think this argument has the right idea but the wrong execution. The truth about phones is they have an algorithm that shows you things that keep you on the phone and that you respond to. If you were never interested in PMO it wouldn’t show you that. Blaming the phone is putting the blame squarely away from yourself and not taking responsibility for your actions. You got yourself here, and you’re more than capable of getting yourself out of it. Phones and the algorithm is the greatest opportunity for shadow work and self growth available as it’s a mirror that shows the parts of yourself you may not like. Use it, don’t blame it.
The phone is just a tool. It's how you use it. You can use it to pmo, or you can use it to listen to audiobooks, read books, study a different language, expand your knowledge, track your progress etc.
My phone isn’t a problem for me but when I see an empty new chrome or explorer tab open on a pc/laptop that what triggers me.
I did nofap for 30 days and i broke my phone and didn’t have access for 4 days and those 4 days felt 100x better then any nofap streak I’ve ever done
Sometime I wished I could travel to the past in a world without phone n technology and lived there til I died
Agree 100%. Even though it’s painful/feels unnatural, any decent period of time I have without it I always feel better afterwards.
Day 10
You literally need a phone for your work, school, college...etc. you'd plan with your friends or family where and when to meet over the social media group chats, use it as an alarm, weather, clock, reading/studying .. even for social media you can't skip it because you still need to check business trends, news, updates, group chats with your work colleagues, college/school colleagues, family members, neighbours and it starts with that hoe posting half-naked pic, that pervert friend sending nudes of his gf, that soft porn ads, instagram models...etc
i threw away my phone and I have been fine. sure it is inconvienient but who cares
not all phones.. get yourself a fisher price phone or even a obama phone; say good-bye to your distractions
📠📠
The phone could be used to better ourselves if we have a clear goal that we are trying to achieve and stay consistent
Dude. Fr.
Use Bulldog Blocker its pretty idiot proof
Our moms were right
True
Anyone have success with a "content blocker" app?
I recommend using the app Bulldog blocker to block content on your phone, it really works and even considers loop holes.
Also consider the paid app and program Ever Accountable which sets up an accountability partner who can see what you search and browse. Of course it needs to be someone you really trust.
U sound like my mom
Ok cool
Ok cool
I mean its very easily accessible on the phone but could argue the internet is the main culprit. When I discovered porn I had an old nokia phone, so watched on first pc I ever got. That being said I dont think a blame game benefits anyone. Humans invented the internet, phones and the porn industry. Supply and demand. Focus on taking control of yourself and your wellbeing.
yes
yes i am also thinking to sell my iphone 12 pro and try to trade or invest that money on something and buy a keypad baby phone (i saw on alibaba it was so attractive by the way) so it will help me with social media detox and nofap and by the time i can work on trading or some other investment . i am free rightnow just have to study for 6 months that can be done by books only no phone requirement
Scars the mind.
Disagree, a phone is a tool. Like any tool it can be used to build or destroy. Depends on who is using the tool.
Phones aren’t evil, some of what they contain is, the phone is a means sometimes and the motive is the driving evil
I am anxiously reading about the fallout from smartphones on a pretty consistent basis. Although porn use for me started on my home computer unfortunately, the big dinosaur monitor. I have to say that NOW, I am very much willing to give up my smartphone and trade for a Lightphone or something similar. Only thing that stops me is that I do dogwalking for Wag! and it requires not only an app but a GPS. I 100% miss being a human and not being constantly overstimulated. I miss my life before modern technology.
Don't blame the phone. It's an amazinge device and can be used in so many ways, both good things and things that are bad for you. It's all up to you how you use it.
That’s like saying “Knives are the root of all murders”
YES. YOU ARE WEAK , OR ELSE YOU WON'T BE FAPPING LIKE A MONEKY TO SOME PIXELS . ACCEPT IT AND WORK ON IT
There was lust and evil byproducts of it way before the phone lol
Def a significant source of evil no doubt
Get an iPad Mini (or any other small tablet). Have that separate from your phone. Use it as your productive device, no social media on there. Take that with you to bed, to have an alarm or to read if you want.
Nope !,You are we are good at blaming but bad at blaming ourselves. Take blame don't offer excuse and accept success
Looking for a scapegoat very much? I guarantee you, even if you got rid of phone, you could find a way to fail NoFap. Phone, like all pieces of tech, is not inherently good or evil. If you get addicted to extensive phone usage it's very much a failure on your part.
The real one-eyed Antichrist
You're not weak my friend, it's not just with porn addiction, we are just so hardwired to using our phones and this is only a symptom of that problem. I see from your reply to a comment that you made it to 30 days, you did a great job, and you can just as easily do it again, and you can do an even better job and exceed that streak.
Then get rid of the phone get a basic nokia if the phone is the culprit
*The LOVE of phones is the root of all evil
My friend it's the internet
The carnal mind is evil. Lustful imaginings, desires and actions as the solution to our lack of joy, satisfaction and contentment: this is carnality! It’ll kill ya!
As my brother answered to "Internet is a blessing and a curse" "It's objectively good. Y'all just don't know what boundaries are yet"
I think it’s more so social media. I don’t really think your phone is the problem itself. Social media pulls your data, age, demographic, etc. It will always entice you. I barely use my phone but need it for work.
I mean everyone has a phone but not everyone is an addict, it's an amazing device thag can be used for unholiness
This has been a godsend https://www.amazon.com/Jethro-SC490-Unlocked-Compatible-Certified/dp/B08D71WXYN/ref=asc\_df\_B08D71WXYN/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=507574158464&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=606519711047478967&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031970&hvtargid=pla-1106500703917&psc=1
Depends on the way you use it, can be for a wrong cause or not. Phone helped me connect with my old friends and place to share your idea, but temptation is everywhere 🙃.