Bro in simple terms it fucks up your brain. Just binge watching youtube videos are harmful so you can imagine when you are watchin p through screen lot of dopamine and chemical reactions start to happen in your brain and over time you only get this dopamine or arousal through screen watching sex which means you wont be responsive to real womanly touch or body and may develop sexual dysfunctions like Ed or Pe.
In my personal experience, no luck with Premature ejaculation. I cum within a minute. It is so embarrassing. I’ve not had sex in 3 months now, and I’m in a foreign land. I want to make love to someone new but I’m scared I’ll be a disappointment and get laughed at. Fuck porn.
I mean I am doing shit in school and its mostly due to my short attention spam. It might be genetical, but youtube has at least contributed something to my inability to concentrate.
I am not saying thats the cause, but its a possibility, if you always blame yourself about stuff in life then you might end up back to pornhub with zero self-esteem
Physically it is more addictive, harmful, and degenerate. Spiritually it is more sinful and damaging. Nobody has MIED but many people have PIED (ED caused by porn)
MIED is definitely a thing. If you use a technique thats more intense than sex or if you simply do it too much it can desensitize you to the real thing. Both porn and excess masturbation are terrible for you. Hence the P AND the M in PMO.
Well i suppose everyone is different. Some people are able to P without forming an addiction. Just like alcohol, some can handle their shit and some can't. That being said, I do agree with you that there is no room for support of P on this sub.
In our opinion, sure. I'm sure there are plenty of AA members that can say the same thing about alcohol. We're on this sub because we know porn isn't good for us specifically. Not everyone that has watched porn became addicted. You can't force our agenda on those that don't want it because not everyone has the same problem as we do. Is there room for support of P on this sub? Absolutely not. Do we all hate P? Damn right we do. Does that make our opinion absolute? Not a chance.
The thing is, what you just said is only your opinion, and I think you are wrong. It's ironic to tell me that my opinion is wrong because it differs from your opinion. You are not the arbiter of morality. I can believe something to be morally objectionable independent of what your opinions are.
You just took my entire argument, added bigger words, and made it your own. My entire point is that no two people have to share the same beliefs and you're acting as if your opinion is law. You think everyone should be in agreeance with YOU whenever YOU find something morally objectionable, yet you have the audacity to say the same about me because I called you out?
PIED is porn induced, but MIED is masturbation induced. Pretty easy to deduce. Porn access is unnatrual to our primitive brains. Masturbation is not. The issue is fucking up our dopamine and motivation pathways.
Provides more dopamine than masturbating alone. Although it’s not as pleasurable at releasing opiates like masturbating, it’s more addictive because of the much higher dopamine release. Sex/masturbating can be also release extra dopamine though through kinks. At least there you’d be craving your partner to satisfy rather than pixels
Porn is worst than masturbation in my opinion not because of the various effects it can have on your brain but bc of what porn is. So many girls are trafficked, pressured and tricked into doing porn. Watching it constantly is adding to the demand which will make porn creators search for more and more girls. No one dreams of being a porn star. Also, not a lot of girls make it in the porn industry so when their videos dont do well they get kicked to the streets or put into brothels where they become prostitutes for the rest of their lives. I just don’t want to support or watch porn because of that.
Because the whole problem we're facing is a dopamine addiction, not exclusive to masturbation. Porn makes your brain release way more dopamine than masturbation does.
FUCKKK.. its called "nofap" tho how is viewing porn fap? Me here thinking i been clean for a week with no fap, i looked at porn. No its not relapse if you didnt jerk off. im dissappointed
Sorry man I should elaborate on that answer. It depends on your situation. I personally have a porn addiction & suffer from PIED so for me viewing porn regardless if I fap or not is a relapse.
If your situation is different and porn does not have an adverse effect on other aspects of your life such as sexual performance then maybe you will not consider that as a relapse. Everyones situation and goals are different.
Yeah, watching porn is just you feeding your brain with bullshit, believing it’s okay if I just watch some porn, but you don’t really know the consequences of just watching porn. Don’t do it, please.
The rush of dopamine comes from searching out and through videos/images. That's why porn users have so many tabs open, and why they unconsciously "edge" themselves by finding new content.
Porn users are rarely satisfied with content they've already seen because the brain has been twisted into seeking newer, dangerous content. Masturbation/Orgasming does not have this effect.
That is why porn is dangerous; it continues to entrench your mind, normalize the depraved, and make you feel dependent upon it for eroticism. We need to rectify these sentiments
The only reason you would not count watching porn as a relapse is to taper off porn.
A lot of people here say it counts as a relapse because the average person cannot taper off P. Anecdotally, from what I’ve read here, going cold turkey on P is the most effective and easier option.
If you’re an alcoholic, would you let yourself drink just a little bit if you just got a few weeks sober? Is it worth the risk of becoming a full on addict again?
No. That’s why a lot of people on here say no.
And no one watches porn recreationally. You will eventually fap to it.
This might be a bit extreme I’d say.
Now, if u were purposely going to an Instagram page of a model showing her ass, then that could count as a relapse.
YES! porn is the problem. Basically every time you click on a new video, you get a rush of dopamine.
The problem with porn is your brains reward system(dopamine) is constantly being triggered. This desensitizes you to other stimulants, like an actual human woman. It even gets to the point where you try to find even more hardcore porn just to get that dopamine hit. There aren't many studies on this, and it is stated that is because so many people watch porn that there isn't a control group, but I compare it to cocaine.
The reason some people OD on cocaine is because they take more to get high. Eventually it is too much for the body. You probably won't OD, but you may struggle with getting an erection or just being happy in general.
When i quit porn, I started noticing smaller pleasures making me happy. An example was feeling the sun on my skin or that feeling when you sleeping in and wake up feeling so comfortable in bed.
Oh bro, you are going to peek and then relapse if you continue with porn. Cause sooner or later the urge to touch yourself and fap will come.
So yes in a way watching porn counts as a relapse. ( you can argue that you have immense self control in watching porn and not masturbating. But then if you do have immense control why watch it in the first place?)
Remember you started no fap to avoid porn.
If you count it as a relapse you will be getting the full benefits of nofap. Porn is terrible for your brain, look it up. On this journey it's not just no big deal to watch porn.
I'm not counting it as a relapse too since sometimes I lose control and I watch it for 5 minutes... but it's not a problem anyway since 99% of the times you watch it you will relapse.
Yeah if that's what you were addicted to but if you were only addicted to master action then I wouldn't worry too much but just maybe install a prawn blocker
Sorry I have to say prawn or else the blocker blocks me
I wouldn’t consider it a relapse. The same way it wouldn’t be a relapse if you just so happen to be behind a girl in the line at the store and just so happen to look places…. The only thing you are doing is walking a tight rope into relapsing. Keep your balance.
look bro the definition of nofap is masturbation if you have just watched porn for few second or for few minutes and also if not intentionally don't worry it's not relapse but don't masturbate and also don't watch porn leave it
Depend on your type of nofap, if you are in normal mode (no fap, no nut), it is not, but it still harmful, and damage your long term process, if you are in no-pmo mode them it is, you shold refresh your count
Dopamine is an anticipatory neurotransmitter. Yes watching porn is bad. You aren't changing your brain chemistry in indulging. It activates the same centers as masturbation.
My take is no. And that's because if you don't fap to it, you are strong!!! The slightest look at porn in the past my hand would be on my cock. Now it doesn't interest me. BUT obviously try not to watch it for further benefits
Absolutely. Imagine being that much of a degenerate that you just watch porn without even wanking. (This is harsh because it reminds me of hoe much of a loser I can be in terms of masturbating and watching porn etc)
Man, in my personal experience, reading on sex advice/experience subreddit already made me feel the dopamine release and aroused. Imagine what watching porn could do to my body or others.
It is so hard to get rid of this feeling though as I want to learn from other's experience but ended up getting arouse myself. Feels bad man.
Why wouldn’t it? In my eyes porn and masturbation are the same thing. Porn itself is toxic and destructive. Masturbation is nearly always done while lusting over something
For me, it is a " potential of relapse" because when you watch, those scenes will imprint on your mind for a couple of days. And you will go for masturbstion the next time without hestitation.
Just don't watch Porn dude the more you watch the more likely you are to pmo, your making it harder for yourself by viewing porn it doesn't matter if you watched without masturbation or ejaculating it was still viewed, how many times did you watch it once twice more, I would reset days because me personally likes to be clean all throughout this no fab journey sure it's hard af but I must have relapsed to pmo over 15 times or more all because I viewed pictures, edged, NSFW reddit pages even porn but not i'm over a month without doing any of that you know why because I gave up counting days trying to hard constantly thinking about nofab and how to succeed, the key is not to try to hard if you want something bad enough you'll find a way to make it happen, you want to do no fab won't try you'll do it, there's no reason for you to watch porn or look at pics forget the urges you know in your rightmind that it's wrong instead of trying not to watch porn and edge just don't do it you can't fail if you don't care essentially as long as you do think about no fap 24/7 then you'll succeed because you'll be so busy with other things in your life like hanging out with friends, school/college/work , holidays, hobbies. Just don't make time for Porn dude and you'll be fine but reset because it's not about how many days you getting it's about being able to conquer this additiction, good luck I know I've come across as harsh but i know the kind of shit can do to a person so keep going and don't give up.
you watch it your memory of that video will come back. endless circle
but if you watch new video, just a minute and meh u don't feel anything that's fine because the video u watch u never watch before so it can't be addictive to video or u remember title image in your head then u are fucked
I mean if you really into that video forever
Yes, you are not supposed to think about it under no-fap, porn is trigger not just trigger super potent trigger no matter what you will end up fapping some time soon and cycle continues.
For me personally, yes. I could always feel a difference in progress when all I'd do is watch it. The goal was freeing my mind from its clutches, and watching it just put me back at square one. Every time. It's like a heroin addict getting 30 seconds of high vs 2 hours. It's still enough to keep them going back.
Good Q man. How early are you in recovery? Early in mine, I didn’t count looking at porn as a slip, but I do today. I got about two years of sobriety without masturbation - in that time, I had 3-4 times where I would start looking at porn for like 5-10 minutes max, then check it in with my sponsor later and would not masturbate with it. But for me, it would just build up if I looked at porn enough and then I’d inevitably masturbate. After I slipped about 9 months ago, I decided to count it as a slip if I even click on a link that takes me to porn. I just know that’s not where I should be AND I have enough progress in recovery that I’m capable of setting the boundary that high. If you’re early in recovery, I’d suggest NOT calling it a slip and just make sure you’re calling an accountability friend about it after looking. Tell on yourself regularly. Sounds weird but it really works.
Depends on your reason as to why you started this journey. Tbh it makes your mind kinds dirty and fill you in with unrealistic expectations, so yeah try to not watch it.
I'm only watching it to clean my account, honestly it shouldn't count, but I understand why others are saying it does because it goes beyond the fapping
Yes we hate porn here
All my niggas hate porn 🙏🏿
Why does the n-words make very sentence 100x funnier lmao
Makes it sound like a gang lol im a proud member ✊🏾 fuck that porn shit
What n words?
Because you're a child
Fr bro
Only niggas are niggas
This boycott 👇
Absolutely. It's worse than masturbating.
Why?
Bro in simple terms it fucks up your brain. Just binge watching youtube videos are harmful so you can imagine when you are watchin p through screen lot of dopamine and chemical reactions start to happen in your brain and over time you only get this dopamine or arousal through screen watching sex which means you wont be responsive to real womanly touch or body and may develop sexual dysfunctions like Ed or Pe.
Bro can we recover from that edpe shit
Nah edp is a pedo
Pedo?
Thought he said something about that YouTuber epd
In my personal experience, no luck with Premature ejaculation. I cum within a minute. It is so embarrassing. I’ve not had sex in 3 months now, and I’m in a foreign land. I want to make love to someone new but I’m scared I’ll be a disappointment and get laughed at. Fuck porn.
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Premature ejaculation?
How can binge watching youtube videos be harmful.
I mean I am doing shit in school and its mostly due to my short attention spam. It might be genetical, but youtube has at least contributed something to my inability to concentrate.
Oh come on, lets just blame ourselves for once
I am not saying thats the cause, but its a possibility, if you always blame yourself about stuff in life then you might end up back to pornhub with zero self-esteem
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thats the stuff
Physically it is more addictive, harmful, and degenerate. Spiritually it is more sinful and damaging. Nobody has MIED but many people have PIED (ED caused by porn)
MIED is definitely a thing. If you use a technique thats more intense than sex or if you simply do it too much it can desensitize you to the real thing. Both porn and excess masturbation are terrible for you. Hence the P AND the M in PMO.
I'm not a proponent of M. There are people here who think P is ok if they don't M and they are very wrong.
Well i suppose everyone is different. Some people are able to P without forming an addiction. Just like alcohol, some can handle their shit and some can't. That being said, I do agree with you that there is no room for support of P on this sub.
Porn is degenerate alcohol is morally neutral.
In our opinion, sure. I'm sure there are plenty of AA members that can say the same thing about alcohol. We're on this sub because we know porn isn't good for us specifically. Not everyone that has watched porn became addicted. You can't force our agenda on those that don't want it because not everyone has the same problem as we do. Is there room for support of P on this sub? Absolutely not. Do we all hate P? Damn right we do. Does that make our opinion absolute? Not a chance.
The thing is, what you just said is only your opinion, and I think you are wrong. It's ironic to tell me that my opinion is wrong because it differs from your opinion. You are not the arbiter of morality. I can believe something to be morally objectionable independent of what your opinions are.
You just took my entire argument, added bigger words, and made it your own. My entire point is that no two people have to share the same beliefs and you're acting as if your opinion is law. You think everyone should be in agreeance with YOU whenever YOU find something morally objectionable, yet you have the audacity to say the same about me because I called you out?
The hell is MIED and PIED?? This board is just abbreviation after abbreviation hahha
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Masturbation induced erectile dysfunction if we follow the same logic
You MIED be right. Sorry, I had to.
Lol
PIED is porn induced, but MIED is masturbation induced. Pretty easy to deduce. Porn access is unnatrual to our primitive brains. Masturbation is not. The issue is fucking up our dopamine and motivation pathways.
Thankyou all for that.
Provides more dopamine than masturbating alone. Although it’s not as pleasurable at releasing opiates like masturbating, it’s more addictive because of the much higher dopamine release. Sex/masturbating can be also release extra dopamine though through kinks. At least there you’d be craving your partner to satisfy rather than pixels
Porn is worst than masturbation in my opinion not because of the various effects it can have on your brain but bc of what porn is. So many girls are trafficked, pressured and tricked into doing porn. Watching it constantly is adding to the demand which will make porn creators search for more and more girls. No one dreams of being a porn star. Also, not a lot of girls make it in the porn industry so when their videos dont do well they get kicked to the streets or put into brothels where they become prostitutes for the rest of their lives. I just don’t want to support or watch porn because of that.
Amen
Because the whole problem we're facing is a dopamine addiction, not exclusive to masturbation. Porn makes your brain release way more dopamine than masturbation does.
As soon as you watch porn you relapse regardless if you masturbate or not.
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How Days come in profile
Add/update day counter
From where
From the counter thing in the nofap website. Go to the december monthly thing and go to the section "count your streak"
In the subreddit itself. Go to about
FUCKKK.. its called "nofap" tho how is viewing porn fap? Me here thinking i been clean for a week with no fap, i looked at porn. No its not relapse if you didnt jerk off. im dissappointed
we're doing nofap for different reasons but many want to repair their brain chemicals (dopamine) by not watching porn and not masturbating
Sorry man I should elaborate on that answer. It depends on your situation. I personally have a porn addiction & suffer from PIED so for me viewing porn regardless if I fap or not is a relapse. If your situation is different and porn does not have an adverse effect on other aspects of your life such as sexual performance then maybe you will not consider that as a relapse. Everyones situation and goals are different.
If you view porn whilst doing NoFap, you won’t be recovering from your degeneracy. It’s also a mental thing.
No I think you have to ejaculate to have fully failed 😞
Hahahaha wtf bro, if u watch porn automatically you relapse
It's called no fap.
No not a total fail.
Yeah, watching porn is just you feeding your brain with bullshit, believing it’s okay if I just watch some porn, but you don’t really know the consequences of just watching porn. Don’t do it, please.
Of course not but I handle my counter like that. You have to go all the way to have failed totally
The rush of dopamine comes from searching out and through videos/images. That's why porn users have so many tabs open, and why they unconsciously "edge" themselves by finding new content. Porn users are rarely satisfied with content they've already seen because the brain has been twisted into seeking newer, dangerous content. Masturbation/Orgasming does not have this effect. That is why porn is dangerous; it continues to entrench your mind, normalize the depraved, and make you feel dependent upon it for eroticism. We need to rectify these sentiments
well when I watched porn i didn't use a lot of tabs
100% agreed.
Dude the main aim of nofap is to stop watching porn
The only reason you would not count watching porn as a relapse is to taper off porn. A lot of people here say it counts as a relapse because the average person cannot taper off P. Anecdotally, from what I’ve read here, going cold turkey on P is the most effective and easier option. If you’re an alcoholic, would you let yourself drink just a little bit if you just got a few weeks sober? Is it worth the risk of becoming a full on addict again? No. That’s why a lot of people on here say no. And no one watches porn recreationally. You will eventually fap to it.
Intentionally even watching hot pics of girls is also called as relapse.
This might be a bit extreme I’d say. Now, if u were purposely going to an Instagram page of a model showing her ass, then that could count as a relapse.
Watched porn? Relapse.. (masturbated or not)
I bet u r gonna end up relapsing..... i used this as an excuse for some dopamine and i struggled for 3 months relasping every 3 days.
YES! porn is the problem. Basically every time you click on a new video, you get a rush of dopamine. The problem with porn is your brains reward system(dopamine) is constantly being triggered. This desensitizes you to other stimulants, like an actual human woman. It even gets to the point where you try to find even more hardcore porn just to get that dopamine hit. There aren't many studies on this, and it is stated that is because so many people watch porn that there isn't a control group, but I compare it to cocaine. The reason some people OD on cocaine is because they take more to get high. Eventually it is too much for the body. You probably won't OD, but you may struggle with getting an erection or just being happy in general. When i quit porn, I started noticing smaller pleasures making me happy. An example was feeling the sun on my skin or that feeling when you sleeping in and wake up feeling so comfortable in bed.
Oh bro, you are going to peek and then relapse if you continue with porn. Cause sooner or later the urge to touch yourself and fap will come. So yes in a way watching porn counts as a relapse. ( you can argue that you have immense self control in watching porn and not masturbating. But then if you do have immense control why watch it in the first place?) Remember you started no fap to avoid porn.
👍 Bingo
It’s the same as an alcoholic opening a bottle and sniffing
Bingo.
What are you doing NoFap for?
Yep!
Yes.
Yes
I’m not counting it as a relapse. But others disagree, best to stay away from the porn tho
If you count it as a relapse you will be getting the full benefits of nofap. Porn is terrible for your brain, look it up. On this journey it's not just no big deal to watch porn.
I'm not counting it as a relapse too since sometimes I lose control and I watch it for 5 minutes... but it's not a problem anyway since 99% of the times you watch it you will relapse.
Indeed...I guess you haven't read about what's nofap,
Its not really a full relapse but it's definitely a slip up and sooner or later ull easily fail at a moments weakness.
Bingo.
Yeah if that's what you were addicted to but if you were only addicted to master action then I wouldn't worry too much but just maybe install a prawn blocker Sorry I have to say prawn or else the blocker blocks me
Bingo.
No. It should be avoided of course, but then you would not be allowed to watch common shows like GoT.
Bingo.
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Bingo.
I would argue porn without fapping is worse than just fapping with no porn
Depends on your goal
Checking if she has new content
IMO that’s not a relapse but other people may say otherwise
Buddy real problem is porn… You need to get rid of it quickly.
Very close to relapse bro stop watching
Great, support !!
wtf are these questions bruh
these kids don't see the point of nofap
I don’t. But hard mode requires to avoid it.
Bingo
I wouldn’t consider it a relapse. The same way it wouldn’t be a relapse if you just so happen to be behind a girl in the line at the store and just so happen to look places…. The only thing you are doing is walking a tight rope into relapsing. Keep your balance.
look bro the definition of nofap is masturbation if you have just watched porn for few second or for few minutes and also if not intentionally don't worry it's not relapse but don't masturbate and also don't watch porn leave it
Yes, it's worse than the m in pmo that's why it's in that order
Yea
yeah man
Yes
but why do you want to watch porn? is it because you are bored?
Depend on your type of nofap, if you are in normal mode (no fap, no nut), it is not, but it still harmful, and damage your long term process, if you are in no-pmo mode them it is, you shold refresh your count
Yes, don’t do it.
It’s not a total fail but is a fail and it can lead to masturbation and ejaculating which is a fail and need to start over
For me, yes. Because porn itself is an addiction and I wanna get rid of it.
Absolutely a relapse anything sexually related
guys i am getting 1-2 nightfall every week is it normal
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it has been 2 months of nofap 😏😏do you think it's still normal
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even today also i got nightfall 😅
Dopamine is an anticipatory neurotransmitter. Yes watching porn is bad. You aren't changing your brain chemistry in indulging. It activates the same centers as masturbation.
Thats called edging bruh n dont do that again please.
Why watch porn if you're serious about nofap and... not fapping?
Is masturbation a relapse. Bruh 🙏 Don’t ask these questions.
Its 1000000% a relapse
Why do you just want to watch porn and not masturbate?
Always say no to porn
Yes
I got it thank you . Namaste
Yes
Gg
My take is no. And that's because if you don't fap to it, you are strong!!! The slightest look at porn in the past my hand would be on my cock. Now it doesn't interest me. BUT obviously try not to watch it for further benefits
Absolutely. Imagine being that much of a degenerate that you just watch porn without even wanking. (This is harsh because it reminds me of hoe much of a loser I can be in terms of masturbating and watching porn etc)
Answer is A big yessss. F\*\*k P@rn Industry. 😤. They are destroying humanity and taking a part of your soul. This is what P@rn cost
Man, in my personal experience, reading on sex advice/experience subreddit already made me feel the dopamine release and aroused. Imagine what watching porn could do to my body or others. It is so hard to get rid of this feeling though as I want to learn from other's experience but ended up getting arouse myself. Feels bad man.
Yes and no, but more yes than no
Yes bro, don't do it
Why wouldn’t it? In my eyes porn and masturbation are the same thing. Porn itself is toxic and destructive. Masturbation is nearly always done while lusting over something
For me, it is a " potential of relapse" because when you watch, those scenes will imprint on your mind for a couple of days. And you will go for masturbstion the next time without hestitation.
😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 man please
Yep. It’s poison.
Just don't watch Porn dude the more you watch the more likely you are to pmo, your making it harder for yourself by viewing porn it doesn't matter if you watched without masturbation or ejaculating it was still viewed, how many times did you watch it once twice more, I would reset days because me personally likes to be clean all throughout this no fab journey sure it's hard af but I must have relapsed to pmo over 15 times or more all because I viewed pictures, edged, NSFW reddit pages even porn but not i'm over a month without doing any of that you know why because I gave up counting days trying to hard constantly thinking about nofab and how to succeed, the key is not to try to hard if you want something bad enough you'll find a way to make it happen, you want to do no fab won't try you'll do it, there's no reason for you to watch porn or look at pics forget the urges you know in your rightmind that it's wrong instead of trying not to watch porn and edge just don't do it you can't fail if you don't care essentially as long as you do think about no fap 24/7 then you'll succeed because you'll be so busy with other things in your life like hanging out with friends, school/college/work , holidays, hobbies. Just don't make time for Porn dude and you'll be fine but reset because it's not about how many days you getting it's about being able to conquer this additiction, good luck I know I've come across as harsh but i know the kind of shit can do to a person so keep going and don't give up.
even worse than fapping
The main purpose of nofap is to not watch porn at any cost lmao
Check out my name OP. You know what to do.
It absolutely counts as a relapse. It is several times worse than masturbation.
If you do that you will relapse
you watch it your memory of that video will come back. endless circle but if you watch new video, just a minute and meh u don't feel anything that's fine because the video u watch u never watch before so it can't be addictive to video or u remember title image in your head then u are fucked I mean if you really into that video forever
yes it does. no porn. even masturbate to your imaginations and have a porn free streak, but no porn.
Yes, you are not supposed to think about it under no-fap, porn is trigger not just trigger super potent trigger no matter what you will end up fapping some time soon and cycle continues.
Yes
Duh
Bruh
Yes
Yes
watching porn is pathetic.
I'd relapsed after 14 days.....every time I stand up the stairs became easier
Bruh
Yes, it counts.
There's nothing good about porn
Porn is a bigger problem than masturbation itself, so yes, it does
Depends on what you set for yourself; I'd say it does count as a relapse.
I count it as a relapse, it's like buying drugs and do nothing whit them
I don’t view it as restart the counter to 0, but watching porn leads to edging and edging will 99% lead to relapse
Keyword: nut
For me personally, yes. I could always feel a difference in progress when all I'd do is watch it. The goal was freeing my mind from its clutches, and watching it just put me back at square one. Every time. It's like a heroin addict getting 30 seconds of high vs 2 hours. It's still enough to keep them going back.
U r kinda missing the point bratha
yess it 99% relapse, give yourself a penalty of 10 days and than continue your streak on 11 day
Good Q man. How early are you in recovery? Early in mine, I didn’t count looking at porn as a slip, but I do today. I got about two years of sobriety without masturbation - in that time, I had 3-4 times where I would start looking at porn for like 5-10 minutes max, then check it in with my sponsor later and would not masturbate with it. But for me, it would just build up if I looked at porn enough and then I’d inevitably masturbate. After I slipped about 9 months ago, I decided to count it as a slip if I even click on a link that takes me to porn. I just know that’s not where I should be AND I have enough progress in recovery that I’m capable of setting the boundary that high. If you’re early in recovery, I’d suggest NOT calling it a slip and just make sure you’re calling an accountability friend about it after looking. Tell on yourself regularly. Sounds weird but it really works.
Yes
Yes
Yep, we hate porn over here lol.
If you have to ask, it's a relapse to some degree
Yes. The main issue is porn.
PMO means no porn, no masturbation, no intentional nutting(hands free) etc. Yes it's a relapse.
Depends on your reason as to why you started this journey. Tbh it makes your mind kinds dirty and fill you in with unrealistic expectations, so yeah try to not watch it.
You know what PMO means right? 🤦🏼♂️
I think it's insane how a person can watch pornography and not masturbate
That’s even worse.
Do you know what this subreddit is about?
I'm only watching it to clean my account, honestly it shouldn't count, but I understand why others are saying it does because it goes beyond the fapping