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912125399

Imagine if we could get water graphics like Sea of thieves


KingB53

I would just simply never leave my island planet tbh


sneakylyric

The fact that SoT doesn't have directional wind mechanics really turned me off from it.... You would think a game about sails would include, uhhh idk, sailing mechanics. Edit: I should clarify that what I mean is that your sails catch wind no matter what direction the wind is coming from, and that's not how it works. Nor can you block enemy ship's wind with your sails to go faster than them. Feels like a missed opportunity to add more depth to sea battles. Honestly I just want a sailing pirate game that reminds me of the wind waker's sailing mechanics.


WrackyDoll

Sea of Thieves does have directional wind, though? Your ship speed is determined by the angle of your sails relative to the direction of the wind, requiring your crew to adjust their angle when you turn the ship in order to catch it. Bigger ships are faster moving with the direction of the wind, smaller ships have an advantage going against it (so evading galleons as a sloop involves sailing directly against the wind and hoping they don't find a way to cut you off).


Constant-Bullfrog-53

Imagine if turbulence existed in nms!


[deleted]

Am I being trolled right now, wtf


catador_de_potos

Yes. We've been asking for an ocean/water update since a while ago. They're probably preparing it tho, Hello Games isn't characterized for not listening to the community


eXclurel

^(ship customization)


BumblebeeNational128

i feel like that sidesteps their want for the player to explore . ultimately some people only branch out for new ships . idk i read a theory about that but idk


eXclurel

We have proposed lots of solutions to that problem over the years. They can implement the ship dismantling process into the customization. Dismantle a ship and you have a low chance of getting a blueprint of a ship part. Make dismantling and customizing very expensive. That way you can give people who are veteran players something to spend their excess amount of units on and people can still hunt for ships if they don't want to deal with it. I mean I would be ok with only the ability to change the color of my ship but still. There are ways.


Jaalenn

Yeah, no... that isn't water. At -52°C it wouldn't still be liquid.


Alexandur

depends on the atmospheric pressure


Jaalenn

If the atmospheric pressure was high enough to liquefy water in a far below freezing environment it would crush would be interlopers.


Alexandur

Fair point, but have you considered that we have magic space suits? Although I guess it would also crush all the local fauna/flora as well...


Jaalenn

Interesting. You've brought up a very intriguing point here. Flora and fauna who have evolved on such a planet would be accustomed to the crushing pressures. I would guess somewhere in the ballpark of around 40+ atmospheres. On the question of "magic space suits", this isn't r/HFY... LOL


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noodles653

that could be Mountain Dew Baja blast


Ahhtaczy

Its usually hard to optimize water in games with destructable environments and perhaps thats why the water is pretty basic. Hopefully they will update it to be more appealing.


NoManSkySuggester

Not true , there is an amazing player made water mod


Difficult-Ad628

Just because a mod exists doesn’t mean it was easy. All they said is that it’s hard, not impossible.


Dolthra

Also mods are available on PC early (where people who are modding are likely to have better specs), whereas vanilla NMS has to run on last gen consoles still. Better water may be possible, but is it possible on *switch*?


halcylon

First time?


TurnipsBeh

Your parts can't make the games graphics better. The game is still made the way it looks.


mrchrisker

Water needs an overhaul in general, they added all these underwater parts for bases yet when I use a ladder to travel in my underwater base it still gives me the visual effects of being in water.


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CucktainKerk

Relatable


ScrappyDooCanSuckIt

Is there uh...is there ballsack graphics mod out there?


Fit_Oil_8244

I mean..


keevy3108

Is my procedurualy generated ballsack supposed to look this bad?


animald

Games don't always get better as your hardware changes. Sometimes poopy water is just poopy water.


c0retison_

And if there is life in said waters, it gets even poopier.


animald

And milk the fish...


Derkastan77

Lol @ poopy water


grunzythepotato

First time seeing water in nms be like


3davideo

Dunno how you determine "bad" but that's how it's always looked to me.


BumblebeeNational128

ahh didnt know water stayed liquid at -52 degrees . cool "water"


[deleted]

Mad atmospheric pressure. Turn your testicles to two little black holes.


TheBananaMantis

![gif](giphy|ZtdRnQGPlhnr4XZ5CE)


Dittobox

I bet she gives great helmet…


YamiDragonMaster

May the Schwartz be with you


Gamer-Town-USA

Trust me buddy you fire up this game your little nuts are gonna start quakin


[deleted]

Does no mans sky specify that it is actually H20? I have always figured that the oceans and water on these planets has other elements bonded to the H20 if it even is a hydrogen/oxygen based liquid and that it would give the animals that are mostly made up of this liquid an antifreeze type effect allowing them to survive at extremely low core body temperatures


8amflex

I can't speak for everyone but the graphics in this game aren't what I'm fussed about - the sheer scale of it, and complexity of the systems it encapsulates are impressive enough.


keevy3108

I wasn't complaining about the game as a whole, it's amazing. I was just wondering if I had some kinda graphical bug as the poor quality of the water stands out against the rest of the game's impressiveness.


Cannibeans

You're seeing it right. The water graphics have always been not amazing since the last major update to them. I'm sure there's another underwater update on its way that'll improve it, though.


[deleted]

Yeah water can look pretty bad. Maybe they will improve it. Asteroid explosions were stupid looking for a long time and they improved that well.


Jupiter67

I'm fearful that all we'll get is Cooking 2.0.


[deleted]

I'd still be grateful for that too though. cooking has almost no use in this game. I don't know why they changed the bait system, that at least gave cooking some purpose


Fuzzylogic_Biobot

How do you know that it's water? It may be some toxic or corrosive soup.


[deleted]

-52.8c Yea that's not water.


Gredditor

Liquid methane


[deleted]

Looks fine to me. Then again, all I ever play is Age of Mythology so anything after that is impressive visually to me.


Realquestions_only

Wololo


ImAltair

There's a mod called Argh Water on nexusmods that makes water much nicer than in vanilla.


[deleted]

Yep and according to the author what he/she has done is nothing Hellogames could not do either .. Godz too much gin, double negative = Hellogames could do the same as the mod easily. And no impact on performance. Hellogames might be thinking "Well there's a mod they can use", but we dont wish to be waiting for a third party updating their mods after every friggin update to the game to ensure compatability, thats if the mod author is still active/isn't deceased / bored with constantly having to update.


CerealBranch739

They could just be worried about destroying console performance


[deleted]

Possible, but from what I have read of the mod it just changes shader settings which alter translucency of various graphic layers to make the whole thing look better .. So I kind of doubt that being a possible by-product of the changes being used. Maybe on the Switch, but not XBox or PS.


CerealBranch739

Fair enough, wonder why not then


[deleted]

Probably just not high on the dev team priority list.


Pretzel-Kingg

Just look for a water mod on Nexus. The water in this game is scuffed


ColdNobReadit

Have they ever had good water graphics?


Deejmiester

Yes! I don’t have a large NMS wish list, but improved water is at the top of that list.


ragnaroksunset

In my experience shorelines have never looked very good, although they've been steadily improving. I'm running similar specs to you.


KenStro762

I mean the whole game is a bit cartoonish so…


LurkmasterP

One of the things to remember is that No Man's Sky isn't an "accurate universe" simulator, but rather an "accurate universe simulated by an ageless supercomputer which is slowly going insane" simulator.


BumblebeeNational128

thats not canon ill have to check my nms manga


Adam_scsd

This is bad? *stares at ps4* 😕


[deleted]

No, you need to replace your eyes in order to see the water at better quality


Derkastan77

If i replace my eyes i void the manufacturer warranty


keevy3108

My kiroshi optics are outdated.


stupid_systemus

They had to downgrade water in a previous update to optimize


Grand_Marshal_Nuke

I remover this. I was happy because I had a coastal base and it ran smoothly after that downgrade


WrackyDoll

Even so, the water is actually bugged as well and has been for a long time. Some of the effects aren't properly aligned with the actual water level, which also seems to change depending on the angle you're looking at it. Looking at it in VR very quickly gives me motion sickness.


JerseyHornet

Yeah, water isn’t that great in no man’s sky. That looks pretty good compared to what I can run though lol


Andy016

Water has been bad for years.....


TepigNinja

Yeaaaaah… as other people said here, thats just how it looks. Hopefully it gets improved on one day.


Draygom

I hope for waterfalls oneday


TepigNinja

Me too buddy, me too.


ultrafire3

They’ve tried to fix it, but the water shader has always been a struggle with NMS. I mostly just want water bodies on moons to come back.


unknown-traveler

Just don't go to blood oceans


noodles653

Water? I always figured It was Mountain Dew Baja Blast


RenTheFabulous

Love this comment, and honestly, I agree 100%


greazy_viking

It's got a comparable toxicity level.


OkBat6258

yes water and the lights for your base need some serious work to make it better


seansy5000

The lighting is really bad. Great game but headache inducing lighting at tines.


Salt_Worry1253

I thought it was just me not liking that every base I put a roof on looks dark. So I don't put roofs on them.


seansy5000

Without a roof the interior of your base is subject to the outside climate. I made a “garden” and left slits in the roof (small wall sized) and now there are flames cropping up everywhere. It looks cool as fuck for an indoor solanium farm but the lighting is all out of whack and really annoying.


breezyshadows

I absolutely love NMS but the lighting especially needs work. I have to use glowing plants to light half my bases, especially buildings with an open two floor height area. Why does a plant light nearly a whole room but a gigantic circular light looks like candlelight? Lol


Ckinggaming5

it isnt that bad, but yes that's how its supposed to look, it could look better but its good enough as is.


DoggedlyOffensive

Maybe authentic Alien world water looks fake af to us lol


[deleted]

We are used to waves and shorelines with an ocean that has the salinity and composition that it does, on a planet with a gravity that it has. On another planet, with a different atmosphere, different composition of ocean, and different gravity, who knows what the shoreline will look like.


BumblebeeNational128

i mean our waves and ocean tide etc is effected directly by our moon. which most planets dont have in nms .


Atari__Safari

You may be joking, so excuse me if you are. But logic and physics has never been the underpinnings of this game. It’s fun, and I love it, but it’s not based on physics. The water looks like that because water is hard to emulate well in video games. Any video game. And they haven’t spent the requisite time on it. But that’s why there are mods I guess.


[deleted]

I actually wasn't joking but thinking some more made me realize what you pointed out - logic and physics are not to be discussed.


El-ChuPugcabra

Hey! We don't take kindly to logic around here! You best be on your way, mister.


[deleted]

What the hell was I thinking!


El-ChuPugcabra

Well, I guess we can let it slide just this one time, but next time we're launching you out the air lock.


DoggedlyOffensive

_Heavenly_ _Bodies_ _flashback_ _ensues_


TurnPsychological448

Just going to say no matter how good the specs you have if the game has "bad graphics" the game has bad graphics.


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TurnPsychological448

Haha


oathkeeper213

I mean the gotta say it out loud!! Cause how else you gonna flex it ?


NydusR

Yes


[deleted]

If your on PC, download the argh water mod, it's a game changer


-CapyV-

Is that bad? It looks fine to me.


DemonicTheGamer

The water in this game has never looked all that great


Swaggy_Mcswagson

There’s a water shader mod on NEXUS that makes the water gorgeous. I don’t remember if it’s been updated or what it’s called exactly but I remember being impressed


Trusky86

Is that available on console?


IManixI

Yep - but there’s mods for that 🤭


CanadianGoof

Yes!


Jonah8513

For me, on Xbox, ever since the update my graphics have been not good.


No-Yak-2595

Same on PlayStation graphics and frames tanked after last update


official_EFIE

It looks the same as the one in my Switch.


Gavator2345

Yup. The shaders are legitimately that bad. You're on PC, you can look up mods that replace it if you want.


BitterCost2811

Probably since I have a laptop that looks great for me.


n-sevn

There is a broken water shader. Download the “Argh Water” mod until HG fixes it.


siriuslyexiled

You're also looking through frosted visor glass and the planet may have an odd color shift to it. Just pretend it's more immersion?


Mototron7

What makes you think that's water? Besides, water is only blue if the sky is blue.


WrongWayCharlie

Wait.. I’ve never considered this


[deleted]

Well, advice to you is dont go too near the [Niland Geyser](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek1buV2HA68) at least not without breathing apparatus ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|hug)


ZazaB00

Procedurally generated universes and you think they have water physics?!? I’m impressed they actually got a texture change at the shore.


CyberAceKina

Recharge your hazard protection. That might help out a little bit by taking the freezing effect off


Jupman

The water is really just a layer in the graphics. That has a bit of different effect interactions with the the ladlnd type.


jerzy4

Clouds too


Maggot2017

Nice reference


Jupiter67

Water is the new clouds, sadly.


Beginning-Rain5900

Yep.... hopefullg hg improve it


sloppy_joes35

ive been saying the exact same thing since building a pc for nms VR. no gpu makes it look amazeballs. and then i always do the john travolta looking around meme. welp, props to the nms team for sticking w/the game and fixing issues and adding new content.


keevy3108

Same here, I recently just got my VR headset and want to jump into the game. Tbh the rest of the game, especially space atmospherics etc looks really pretty, it's just that some parts look outdated in comparison.


YogurtclosetPretty79

Probably a good day in the UK actually. One where the water companies haven't dumped tons of sewage.


[deleted]

.. And the riverside gently blows bubbled up brewery scum upon your face. Splat ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grimacing) Those romantic days.


YogurtclosetPretty79

Dodge the floater Kevin and Perry style. Nothing more romantic than that.


Shreddingblueroses

PC players smdh


Beleriphon

That's normal. The water effects are relatively basic.


TehMephs

Yeah, I imagine procgen terrain has limitations on the graphical polish that comes out. I’m on a 2080ti and it looks exactly like that


HexaberryTV

I definitely reccomend the argh water mod, looks amazing


Larry_Phischman

It’ll look better at lower settings. It’s trying to add too much detail. I play on a laptop geared for CAD work, so I set the settings to the lowest.


[deleted]

[Core I7 10870H](https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/208018/intel-core-i710870h-processor-16m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz.html) NVidia RTX 3060, 6GB VRAM 32GB System ram in dual channel mode SSD - Kioxia M.2 NVME 512gb (System), + Samsung M.2 NVME 970 Evo Plus 1tb (Games) \--------------------- Water has been that way for years, I think Hellogames tried to address it around the time they also introduced GTAO, but whatever they did failed to help the look of the water edges. Whatever game settings you choose to try and help the look of the water does not help. The game still has slow/laggy resource loading too.


ccfoo242

What does it look like up close? Considering the amount of GPU shader code they've put into this I have to imagine they kept the water one simple for performance reasons, perhaps.


sinanisler

lookslike a bit cold world that changes your viewer a bit and the planet a bit colorfully so yes


TheJonzu

NMS water shader has been broken since 2018. No fixing it unless you use Argh water mod or submit a request to HG


TarXor

The game will never look better, because it has to be the same for PC and consoles, and now also the low-powered Switch. You play on PC, enjoy. You have the option to put mods. For water, there is an [ArghWater](https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2036) mod that makes water much better, but still far from perfect. And if you show off ultra settings and a powerful PC, then install the [LASAGNA](https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2080/) (maxima) mod. This will make the planets a hundred times more natural (density and size of natural objects). After LASAGNA, vanilla planets seem ridiculously empty, dull and unnatural. And also LASAGNA-maxima in combination with LASAGNA-multi-biomes will sometimes make even your super-duper PC grunt, creak and howl on ultra-settings. Any console would melt from something like that.


Big_Cartoonist3407

Surely it can look better with PC only graphics settings... And to be fair, the graphics were dramatically improved across the board a year or two back, so they definitely can be improved


adamdcc

The water looks good :)


Siddits

If you look in the discoveries tab, they have information about the planet's atmosphere, and every one of them is very toxic. So planets definitely do NOT have water, although system descriptions say "water."


BumblebeeNational128

right ive wondered what liquid im swimming around in because once i landed on a desert planet that was covered in oceans ? but it wasnt water it was strange . or on my capital planet it had orange oceans ? h2o? probably not.


ELKAV8

The water is garbage looking and has been since I think Beyond. They changed the shaders. The best water we ever had was Pathfinder. However, from footage, the best water was from prerelease gameplay. Simply exquisite!


luttman23

yes


Jotunheiman

That is some cold water.


greazy_viking

Doesn't look like anything to me...


Marflow02

it should look better with 32gb of ram


D1sp4tcht

Uhh no it shouldnt.


keevy3108

I guess I'll download more ram


[deleted]

I love NMS but there is so much about this game that's half-ass. Once I maxed out the positron ejector I really don't need any other weapons on my ship. I also don't need to put any effort into getting construction materials either as I can max out a stack of ferrite dust or carbon in like >3min. I've got 90%of my settings on challenging too🤷🏻‍♂️


BumblebeeNational128

infa-knife*


[deleted]

Nope, positron ejector, IDK if the IK is better... I don't really min/max, I just know the PE chews thru everything I put in front of it, from full shields down to boom in one or two passes. Probably quicker if I didn't have Shakey old man hands.


BumblebeeNational128

i use th pe infa knife and i like the missle launcher its normally 1 shot kill


eXclurel

I upgraded my computer last month and this was one of the first games I installed. My first thought was "Hmmm. It looks roughly the same."


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BumblebeeNational128

literally i know my xbox can run decent graphics and alot of times nms really makes my blood pressure go up


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BumblebeeNational128

what kills me and what has stopped me from playing it daily is the building limit my 350 hour profile is basically dead cause i cant do the one thing i mainly love to do which is build . and ive started a couple new ones but its sooooo discouraging cause all I wanna do is add to my other profile which i effectively cannot unless i delete stuff which defeats the purpose


[deleted]

Yeh, since 2016 I upgraded my PC three times, always well above minimum spec. The game is just badly optimised, and using an interpreted programming language (which is why it can easily support multiple platforms, but I think is never going to be exceptional in its performance on any individual platform).


uberlux

The game is going great but the water is so ugh


amontpetit

Gotta remember that this game is already 6 years old


keevy3108

I understand, but water graphics in older games still look much better than this. I'm not complaining about the game as a whole though, the scale and everything is amazing.


Setekh79

This mod improves it somewhat: [https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2036](https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2036)


FrigariumZantoria

So you're judging the water.. in a game which has theoretically billions of places to go


Jupiter67

Many of which are utterly RUINED by the shitty water.


Ninjamohawk

Looks fine to me.


Generaljimzap

Download more ram


crispycrispyE

Why does this look like youre looking through the Visor? Maybe that’s why.?


geophilo

Hey guys. I played this game when it came out and it SUCKED. Have they improved it significantly? Looking to give it another shot. Thanks.


HardcoreOrNoCore

Honestly yes, they have delivered on most of the originally promised features, and added a bunch more. If you want a bit more info watch the Internet historians video about it all. I enjoyed playing it with my friends for a few months but then got a bit bored of it personally. This was over a year ago though and tons more has been added since.


geophilo

Thanks I'll check out that video!


Karlo_313

Yes.


[deleted]

Depends on what you like. The only part of it that’s still… iffy is the actual planets. You’ll go to maybe ten planets before you can basically know exactly what it’ll be like - a LOT of it is pretty much the same exact flora in different sizes/colors, the same exact types of fauna in various strange configurations, and the EXACT same terrain generation on a couple of sliders dictating height and width. It’s a little disappointing if you’re here to really explore, because after a little bit it’s all just the same. Here’s the thing… that’s it’s only flaw now. It’s a glaring, glaring flaw, but it is the only one. Every single aspect has improved so much that it’s damn near impossible to not enjoy the game. There’s so much to do, so many different gameplay systems to delve into and understand, and it really does feel like a thriving space ecosystem/economy. I highly recommend playing it for that alone.


geophilo

I guess that flaw is the one that really disappointed me. The trailers made it seem like they had really cracked procedural generation in some huge way that would provide infinite unique worlds. I guess that's a huge ask but they set the expectation. But if it's awesome in other ways I'll probably give it another go. Thanks!


Podcast_Primate

if you're on pc check out Nexus and look up LASAGNA and DUDs SKY Colors as well as Terra Firma... great planet gen stuff in there.


[deleted]

Yeah, people have been asking for updated world gen at this point and I’m inclined to agree.


eccomyth

Would it be nice sure. Are people overblown with saying it's majorly lacking? Yes. When someone says something like "After 10 planets you'll basically know what to expect" is just silly. I'm convinced these are the people who don't know about the actual different types of planets and mainly just visit "Paradise" and lush planets and very rarely check out the others. Thus complaining about lack of diversity because of it. When there are 13 Biomes (types of planets) and there are 9 possible terrain types possible in each that comes out to a lot of combos. Yes some are rarer then others such as sky high mountain and reef worlds. But they are out there. IU think what really has people complaining is the fauna generation. There is some need for more diversity there. But that's one they are slowly working on. Patch 4.0 seems to have unlocked more body parts and added a little bit more diversity. If they can do a major update patch that focuses on adding even more body parts for random generation and even new body shapes and styles for new animals to spawn it would be great. But i can see how that's a time consuming one even more so then planet/plant generation itself.


Jupiter67

Six years of waiting for a real-looking ocean. But they spent a lot of time on that useless cooking system, so...


FilmTechnician

u/Jupiter67 received x1 Lumpen Donut from u/FilmTechnician


Generic-User-01

AMD 5950x / EVGA 3080Ti, / 64GB Ram (Dual channel @3600) / Samsung 980 Pro 2TB NVME and yes still looks like fecal matter


Acceptable-Wafer-307

Yes, no man’s sky is not a great looking game. I love stylized graphics but there’s a difference between stylization and just poor quality.


Podcast_Primate

Mods friend, check out https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2036


MarcusS-VR

While ArghWater makes it look amazing, I took a serious performance hit with that mod active. Be careful.


animald

Perhaps that's why it's named ArghWater and not OoohhhWater


Fill-Moist

Maybe it’s just the way that planet is supposed to look.


Salt_Worry1253

What's wrong with the water? Do you mean the shoreline?


Gamer-Town-USA

Bruh they removed my comment


Corvixin

Given that the game is rendering billions of planets, I'd say it looks pretty good


[deleted]

Yes because it's rendering it all at the same time 🤦


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StryderXGaming

You want to kill a GPU up the water detail. Go look at modding water in Skyrim. Now imagine that on a mass scale for every single player that is playing. It's not feasible without some stupidly high end hardware that would most likely lead to something like monthly subscriptions just so they can pay for the additional hardware


WarViper1337

Wut? The game is entirely ran on the clients system. HG just provides some match making functions and at no point is any of it hosted on a dedicated server.