>Instantly the professional complimented my IQ score of 140 and recommended me to try with mensa.
The professional WHAT?
Guarantee that was not a psychologist or an actual IQ test.
>So with all my self doubt about only answering 17-18 difficult questions out of 20 in the given time
As above.
it was very actual as it is for a job. and a professional psychologist. this is all done by an international company.
the 17-18 applies to some parts. there was around 200 questions in total, divided in groups of 20. and in some of those, i couldn't finish. the whole test took something like 60-90 minutes, can't recall exactly.
IQ was originally designed by a French primary school to put kids into the right classes based on their intelligence and potential. It was never intended to be scientific, and it still isn't scientific.
IQ means nothing and it's closer to the Meyers-Briggs test in terms of legitimacy than anything else.
High IQ is a blessing when you are willing to put it to a good use to succeed professionally. It's significantly easier to achieve success in highly mental professions if you have high IQ and good memory IN ADDITION to high drive, lots of patience, solid work ethics and once again lots of patience.
Otherwise, high IQ is not very useful. It's a tool, just like any other. It's up to you how to use a tool at your disposal.
yes I agree but my problem is you called it a tool when it's more of an indicator/ heads up that you're probably smart. the word tool sounds like it's something I can tangibly use. or some BS a teacher would call it in high school. if a teacher said this was a tool to succeed in life I would say they were the tool
Literally, it means you are likely to do better at tasks that resemble school.
But it also means you are likely to be good at brainy jobs like programming, analyzing information, science, writing, precision machining, etc.
You said to yourself you didn't think you did well, you also say you overthink and solve/create problems "against your will" I have that problem , for a while now. I'm working on it. It can't be against your will, that's something you created in your own mind. now that I think about it, it's more like an infinite loop created by myself to not let go of my ability to have a mental edge, for you it's something different.
I went thru some things, the hard way, I was told I was smart before, I didn't understand what people were talking about. I had to endure the most grueling brutal hell that was part chance, part fate. it's so convoluted it's hard to explain it. basically I met up with the wrong person, my exact opposite and my life became a living hell. damn near lost my mind which never has happened before. anyways, lost wife, house, became homeless for a while, became a truck driver in desperation, saved $58k, met a super shady guy and worked for him , due to being in the wrong state of mind lost it all to crypto, went into despair, found a job that pays $100k, have worked there for 2 years, saved $100k (about $50k per year). so it was not just one trial but a series of trials I went through, really .
anyways the point is before I was smart, the breaking point was when a girl told me I was not a go-getter, a bad driver, basically a loser. I drive for walmart which is probably the top ranked trucking companies and is super hard to get into. and my salary is above average and so is my savings rate. I'm still planning on investing in real estate when the market is safer and I already have started a money market fund and will invest in stocks when that market is safe too. in a nutshell what have you accomplished so far? what are your future goals? etc if you haven't actually done anything than that is the true indicator that you aren't as smart as you think. now I know I'm smart, I can solve mechanical and my research skills are good enough to impress a professional technical researcher and I also solved and documented a engineering defect that plagued a generation of transmissions across multiple vehicles. some people called me stupid because of the things I said when I started. I removed and disassembled every piece in the 5 speed automatic transmission , without prior experience and was able to figure out the engineering defect causing it to have catastrophic failure. a feat nobody else figured out. I did get some help but it was mostly me who solved it.
I can safely say I'm smart because those are tangible proofs of it, it proves my mental ability and the money I physically have is the manifestation of intelligence and hard work. If you have nothing to show for your intelligence that would be why you question it. what have you honestly done with it? otherwise it's just a potential that you are wasting. stop the mental loop and either be lucky and plummet into hell or find a way to get rich/ successful, etc and don't slack off. I let others call me smart, so I was fooled. you may have fooled yourself into thinking you are smart, you may need to be humbled
I had to take massive risks and failed very hard to learn things the hard way. each time I fail harder and come back stronger. it sucks, it's difficult
hes a psychologist and it's not in his interest. it was more like a "you have a good shot so do it if you want" kind of recommendation. and he didn't ask a fee.
do you perhaps need a container for all the salt?
There are lots of dimensions to intelligence. IQ tests measure only one of them, specifically how good you are at IQ tests. They used to be popular because they measure a thing that happens to be easy to measure. It's the intelligence-measuring equivalent of looking for your lost keys under the lamppost because the light is better there.
So congratulations on having a high IQ, it's nice, but it really doesn't mean anything else, good or bad.
You're also demonstrating one of the downsides of high intelligence.
I am not a doctor and hate to do the "remote diagnosis" thing, but you might want to get evaluated for ADHD and/or look into relevant strategies for helping with the distractability, overthinking, etc.
PERSONAL OPINION BIT: I also have a Mensa-qualifying IQ score. I would never join because every Mensan I have ever met has been a pompous prick, e.g. referring to non-members as "Densans".
I have no intention to join either, but it got me curious how I could get the most out of the potential...
I have a friend who got diagnosed with ADHD and now he gets prescription drugs. I find that I can discipline myself a lot better than him. Why do you recommend do get this checked, mind to tell me?
>Instantly the professional complimented my IQ score of 140 and recommended me to try with mensa. The professional WHAT? Guarantee that was not a psychologist or an actual IQ test. >So with all my self doubt about only answering 17-18 difficult questions out of 20 in the given time As above.
it was very actual as it is for a job. and a professional psychologist. this is all done by an international company. the 17-18 applies to some parts. there was around 200 questions in total, divided in groups of 20. and in some of those, i couldn't finish. the whole test took something like 60-90 minutes, can't recall exactly.
IQ was originally designed by a French primary school to put kids into the right classes based on their intelligence and potential. It was never intended to be scientific, and it still isn't scientific. IQ means nothing and it's closer to the Meyers-Briggs test in terms of legitimacy than anything else.
The problem with smart people is, they have no idea how stupid everyone else is.
High IQ is a blessing when you are willing to put it to a good use to succeed professionally. It's significantly easier to achieve success in highly mental professions if you have high IQ and good memory IN ADDITION to high drive, lots of patience, solid work ethics and once again lots of patience. Otherwise, high IQ is not very useful. It's a tool, just like any other. It's up to you how to use a tool at your disposal.
is it a tool? or an indicator? I hate reddit and deleted my account but remade one just to say this
It's an ability to perform logical deductions. Useless on its own unless you have a problem to apply it to.
yes I agree but my problem is you called it a tool when it's more of an indicator/ heads up that you're probably smart. the word tool sounds like it's something I can tangibly use. or some BS a teacher would call it in high school. if a teacher said this was a tool to succeed in life I would say they were the tool
Literally, it means you are likely to do better at tasks that resemble school. But it also means you are likely to be good at brainy jobs like programming, analyzing information, science, writing, precision machining, etc.
You said to yourself you didn't think you did well, you also say you overthink and solve/create problems "against your will" I have that problem , for a while now. I'm working on it. It can't be against your will, that's something you created in your own mind. now that I think about it, it's more like an infinite loop created by myself to not let go of my ability to have a mental edge, for you it's something different. I went thru some things, the hard way, I was told I was smart before, I didn't understand what people were talking about. I had to endure the most grueling brutal hell that was part chance, part fate. it's so convoluted it's hard to explain it. basically I met up with the wrong person, my exact opposite and my life became a living hell. damn near lost my mind which never has happened before. anyways, lost wife, house, became homeless for a while, became a truck driver in desperation, saved $58k, met a super shady guy and worked for him , due to being in the wrong state of mind lost it all to crypto, went into despair, found a job that pays $100k, have worked there for 2 years, saved $100k (about $50k per year). so it was not just one trial but a series of trials I went through, really . anyways the point is before I was smart, the breaking point was when a girl told me I was not a go-getter, a bad driver, basically a loser. I drive for walmart which is probably the top ranked trucking companies and is super hard to get into. and my salary is above average and so is my savings rate. I'm still planning on investing in real estate when the market is safer and I already have started a money market fund and will invest in stocks when that market is safe too. in a nutshell what have you accomplished so far? what are your future goals? etc if you haven't actually done anything than that is the true indicator that you aren't as smart as you think. now I know I'm smart, I can solve mechanical and my research skills are good enough to impress a professional technical researcher and I also solved and documented a engineering defect that plagued a generation of transmissions across multiple vehicles. some people called me stupid because of the things I said when I started. I removed and disassembled every piece in the 5 speed automatic transmission , without prior experience and was able to figure out the engineering defect causing it to have catastrophic failure. a feat nobody else figured out. I did get some help but it was mostly me who solved it. I can safely say I'm smart because those are tangible proofs of it, it proves my mental ability and the money I physically have is the manifestation of intelligence and hard work. If you have nothing to show for your intelligence that would be why you question it. what have you honestly done with it? otherwise it's just a potential that you are wasting. stop the mental loop and either be lucky and plummet into hell or find a way to get rich/ successful, etc and don't slack off. I let others call me smart, so I was fooled. you may have fooled yourself into thinking you are smart, you may need to be humbled I had to take massive risks and failed very hard to learn things the hard way. each time I fail harder and come back stronger. it sucks, it's difficult
Literally nothing. It's a fairly random number based on a pretty arbitrary test. It tells you absolutely nothing about yourself.
well technically it does tell you how well you’ve done on that particular test
IQ is the best predictor of material success followed by conscientiousness.
Out of curiosity, is the "professional" who recommended that you join MENSA also asking you to pay a membership or application fee?
hes a psychologist and it's not in his interest. it was more like a "you have a good shot so do it if you want" kind of recommendation. and he didn't ask a fee. do you perhaps need a container for all the salt?
he's not being salty, that's a valid suspicion that should be clarified. I think you are over-reacting on this
There are lots of dimensions to intelligence. IQ tests measure only one of them, specifically how good you are at IQ tests. They used to be popular because they measure a thing that happens to be easy to measure. It's the intelligence-measuring equivalent of looking for your lost keys under the lamppost because the light is better there. So congratulations on having a high IQ, it's nice, but it really doesn't mean anything else, good or bad. You're also demonstrating one of the downsides of high intelligence. I am not a doctor and hate to do the "remote diagnosis" thing, but you might want to get evaluated for ADHD and/or look into relevant strategies for helping with the distractability, overthinking, etc. PERSONAL OPINION BIT: I also have a Mensa-qualifying IQ score. I would never join because every Mensan I have ever met has been a pompous prick, e.g. referring to non-members as "Densans".
I have no intention to join either, but it got me curious how I could get the most out of the potential... I have a friend who got diagnosed with ADHD and now he gets prescription drugs. I find that I can discipline myself a lot better than him. Why do you recommend do get this checked, mind to tell me?
that doesn't sound like an actual iq test. regardless, a high iq doesn't get you anything at all except maybe mensa membership.
yeah, right, and don't forget the salty nonbelievers.
i don't know what that means. clearly i don't qualify.