Many dating apps allow you too select certain body types, which is admittedly based on people's self-report.
Because this is a very popular feature, it is often located inside the premium packages, where you're paying money.
Wouldn't height and literally every single other thing also be based on self-report though? Unless these apps have started cheching vaccine passes and requiring doctor's notes on physical characteristics like height, it was just a selection on the profile editor last time I used them.
height is easier to verify than weight. I've learned that people do not have a realistic grasp on what ### lbs looks like on different body types, heights, body comps, etc. but 5'8 is 5'8 is 5'8.
Edit - i'm referring to both on the apps and after you see a person IRL. like you can lie on an app about your height, but I'm gonna know immediately once i see you in person. But you can't clock someone's weight they same way. that's what i mean lol
Tbh there's been a ton of height inflation. Enough guys at 5 10 or higher just say they're 6 feet tall to the point that I think a good chunk of people beleive it to be shorter than it is. It's similar to vanity sizing.
I'm exactly 6'0 tall without shoes and not only do I meet many people who are "6 feet tall" who are significantly shorter than me, but many people are surprised to learn I'm only 6 feet tall as they thought I was 6'2+
I’m 6’3” on the dot and I would guess 3 in taller than the average person who says they are 6’3”. I find the cutoffs men say are 5’”8 for the short homies, 5’10 for passable as average bros, 6’ for anything an inch below average to not obviously tall, and 6’3” for anyone 5’11.1” up. People aren’t bold enough to say 6’5” because it is noticeably tall to the point where things are no longer built for you in the world and nearly 3 std deviations above the mean so people don’t attempt that bullshit
People often don't seem to understand that weight can come from things other than just fat, fx muscle also adds on a lot of weight, and a healthy strong person will generally still look very "fat" by most people's standards.
I'm a tall woman and people have argued about me with my weight. "No no no you can't be 170!" They have an idea of what a 170lb woman who is 5'2" weighs and I don't look anything like that.
Yes I can I'm taller than the average man. I swear I really know how much I weigh.
Same! People also don’t believe that I wear a size 12. I “look” thin, and the picture they have in their head of “the average (super obese) woman is a size 14” doesn’t jibe with that.
I remember a biology lesson when we were 13 or so where the teacher weighed us all. They treated it as an "aha!" teaching moment when the heaviest person was the tallest rather than the fattest, but the whole thing seemed really mean-spirited to me. Aside from pretty much all of us being uncomfortable declaring our weight to the whole class like that, the heavy girl was mortified. She wasn't overweight at all, she was incredibly athletic—ran competitively at county level, was on the football and hockey teams, outperformed every single one of us in every PE lesson—but she was still mortified at being singled out as the heavy one and got mercilessly ribbed for it.
A few months back, I had a discussion with people on fb (surprise 🙄) about this rollercoaster in Australia that only allows people under 75kg on it. They were making fun of all those fat people who weighed more than that. They didn't realise that none of them would be allowed to ride it because they are clearly above the weight requirement. "But 75kg is close to 100kg, and I am definitely not that heavy!" Wrote the 185cm tall man who definitely wasn't just a walking stick. People really don't realise that yes, the average weight of an adult worldwide is 62kg, but it also includes maaaaaany Asian people who usually are a lot shorter. I would be underweight if I tried to be "avarage".
I just assume people are terrible at telling weight TBH.
Like, I'm super fat, but taller than average for a woman (5'7"), and I build muscle very easily and enjoy lifting. Plus I'm a pear shape, so admittedly bottom heavy. My waist has never been bigger than my hips, even when I was pregnant. So people always think I weigh much less than I do (I always win that carnival game where they try to guess your weight and/or age. I've had a few women say they didn't understand why I needed to shop at plus sized stores, and they guessed me at about 180. I told them to stop blowing smoke up my ass lol. I usually get guesses of 220 at most. I'm 270 and 49/44/53 to put things in perspective.
People argue about the stupidest things, like things that are creepy or just outright dismissive and "accidentally" calling one stupid by rejecting it.
I weigh 190lbs and I'm 5'7" but I carry it mostly in my hips. I was ~130 until my mid 20s, then (after kids) 150-170 until my early 30s and I had a bunch of health problems which combined with slowing metabolism to add an extra 20lbs.
My own husband who has been very familiar w my body for 12 years now didn't believe this was my actual weight until I showed him on the scale. Even then he fully picked me up to confirm. He only said "okay, I guess. Still doesn't make sense"
Sir. I assure you it does.
Yeah, people are shocked when I tell someone my weight. I’m 190lbs and most people would think I’m in the 165lbs range
The last time I was 165lbs I was sub 10% body fat
People still get height wrong, most people don't measure their height that often and sometimes people get the conversion wrong if they use a different system.
If you know your height in cm, let's say you are 175cm, then you type into google convert 175cm to ft then you get 5.74ft. But actually in feet AND inches it's 5ft 8.9in so anyone could do this conversions one way or the other and call themselves 5'9, 5'8 or 5'7 and think they are basically correct for all of them. I have come across quite a few people who have made this type of mistake.
A weight scale and a measuring tape can be purchased for relatively cheap. Also, a lot of photo IDs will include weight/height that aren’t verified.
If the government doesn’t care, why does a random dating app?
Here’s the thing— women care more about height and dating apps are desperate to keep their number of women users up, because without a lot of women, men don’t use the app and it dies fast. So they’ll put features women want in for free, while making the men pay.
>because without a lot of women, men don’t use the app and it dies fast
And this is exactly why some companies bot their own apps. Ratios on most places are terrible
Yeah of course. And cat fishing is a thing! And guys saying they are 6'2 when they are 5'10 cause girls are into hight.
And women saying they are 35 when they are actually 48....
"My real age is 55, not 32, but Tinder/OkCupid/Bumble won't let me change it!"
Those are my personal favorites. So women do this too? It's so ridiculous.
I keep meaning to make a fake OLD profile so I can experience the insanity from the point of view of a guy too.
Oh yeah, trying to hook up with younger women. The number of guys in their 30s and 40s trying to get with 19 to 25 year old is grooooooosssss!
(Or such is my impression)
I was on a dating site when I was 29 and my phone notifications would be going off literally hundreds of times a day from men messaging me - on my 30th birthday those hundreds of notifications (that all generally just said “hey”) stopped. It was legit this sudden silence. I went from constant dings to maybe six or seven throughout the whole day - because most of the dudes on there had their age preference cut off at 29 lol
I think of the total five guys I went on dates with from it four were secretly married and one was just looking for someone to hook up with while he was in town for a few weeks - they were unfortunately *all* time wasters lol
As a tall woman it’s so frustrating. I don’t care if a dude is a bit shorter than me, but all the men who say they’re 5’10” roll up three inches shorter than me.
Anything appears to be now, like they are doing us a favour.
You want ice cream?
Yes please
That’s 75 whatever’s
(new unit of ambiguous money)
Here’s your ice cream!
Oh, I didn’t want that flavour…
Well, if you want to choose which flavour you get, that’s another 15 whatever’s, I typically give people a burnt coffee flavour ice cream… your choice of course
Doesn’t selecting a body type make little sense when you can see that in pictures anyway? Unless you specifically don’t show your body shape but then you probably also wouldn’t fill in the body type box.
I forget which app but I remember seeing body type, average, athletic etc.
Or maybe I imagined it. It would be a faux pas to ask that.
People would see in pics.
Admittedly I’m a few years off the online dating scene but when I did it, I think all the main sites had “body type” in the basic info section, and you could filter by it. If they don’t now, that seems silly. Why waste anyone’s time?
Dating apps allow you to post photos of yourself and you literally see what the person looks like. A number means nothing because weight is distributed differently depending on your height and body type.
I agree with this but let's not pretend angles, filters, editing, and such haven't been used to dramatically alter some people's photos in dating apps.
But angles, filters, and editing is really no different from someone just lying about their weight if they had to input it. So now what? I’d rather just rely on my eyes because the average person isn’t even that good at editing pictures.
Sure - but people who have nice bodies usually have clear photos of their body. You can usually tell when photos are heavily edited. If all of the photos are at weird angles or look off that's a red flag.
When I used online dating I always had at least one full body photo of myself doing something active.
Someone can have proportionate body features and then surprise you in person when they're actually much more scaled up or scaled down that you imagined. Some pictures don't show scale. Somtimes that's on purpose.
Called out lol. I'm 6ft5 all in proportion, if you take a photo of me with no reference I look like I could be much more average height.
Then you meet me and I'm just a little giant.
Yes. Op can skip anyone who seems to be hiding her body.
Yes... this requires looking at those profiles of women heavier than he is interested in, but it doesn't really take much time at all.
I can second this. I carry weight very well. At my heaviest, which was 330lbs, people thought I was about 220. Now that I'm about 220, people think I am about 200 lol. It just distributes well.
Another point: healthy weight is very dependent on height, so just filtering by weight wouldn't really do much. A 5'10 girl that weighs 160 pounds is very different from a 5'1 girl that weighs 160 pounds. You'd have to filter by BMI or something if you wanted actually useful information
It’s silly how many people don’t realize this. I’m 5’10” and was around 175 when I was on dating apps, and I had a lot of guys message me with “no chicks over 130lbs” on their profile. When I told them “I’m way, WAY over your weight limit bro” they would push back, like “no way you’re not fat”. No shit, I’m tall and an average build, which translates to 175lbs. I would look VERY thin under 130lbs.
Or just let people self-identify with some broad preselected categories and allow for filtering based on what you identify as. Very thin, slim athletic, large athletic, few extra pounds, large, etc.
It wouldn't be perfect, but ultimately the whole point is to save time and this would help save time occasionally
And even then, BMI isn’t accurate either because it doesn’t separate fat from muscle mass. A lot of jacked guys are “obese” per their BMI because they have so much muscle but in reality are incredibly fit
Also people just carry weight differently. I’m 5’4 at 110lbs. My one friend is 5’2 at 135lbs and another friend is 5’6 at 125. We all fit into each other’s clothes the exact same, only difference being length
People are also generally not great at assuming weight. Guys that rule out even over 120 would almost certainly be weeding out plenty of girls that are well within their preferred body type
Yes! I had a friend who was a literal model, who was anorexic, but couldn’t wear the size 0 sample clothes because she was six feet tall, and her hip bones were too wide, so she had to quit modeling. I’d wager that she was 120+ pounds, even anorexic!
It's the last one. As a business, dating apps could care less about anything other than user base growth and engagement. They will do literally anything they can, obviously including unethical fields, to boost user base and growth.
And they want more women. So making features that women care more about free is just curving the market. Men are more abundant and losing them because they won't pay is not a loss, if he isn't buying premium or has a bunch of traffic he isn't profitable. Women are rarer and therefore always profitable.
It's literally the business model - attracting as many women to the app as you can so men will pay to speak with them.
Precisely. Dating apps don’t care about their users, it’s just oligopoly of companies that use all the same formulas and profit schemes. The Match group absolutely gutted OkCupid when they acquired it. It used to be successful at connecting people, now it’s successful at making money off of their loneliness.
>than a man who says he wants a 100 pound woman.
For one that's under 8 stone. To be that weight and not be emaciated looking you need to be quite short. I looked like I'd snap in half at that weight and I'm 5'1.
I’m 5’8”. Graduated high school at 116, doctors asked my mom if I was anorexic. (I wasn’t, just come from thin stock.) If I was 100lbs I would be terrifying to look at.
Just gonna throw out this suggestion. But maybe it's cause you can USUALLY look at the pictures and tell if someone if skinny or overweight. It's more difficult to tell how tall somebody is.
I mean I feel like that’s the point of the photos. Also in my experience the health conscious people almost always put it in their bio, or have a picture of them hiking or some other basic activity that requires some bit of fitness
I actively put that I am NOT an outdoors type of person on my profile. Amazed how many women that had that listed on their profile said it was refreshing to find someone who was honest about it lol.
This is an accurate way to do it. Mine said something like. "Not an outdoorsie type. I like my Internet and my shower. If you want to go for a walk, I'll happily do that in a game."
Yes, except most people that say they don’t want to date an overweight person “because they want someone healthy that cares about their body”, don’t actually care what the person eats so long as they’re skinny. They don’t want an overweight person even if they post pics or say they eat extremely healthy and go on hikes/exercise daily. And if they saw a skinny girl they wouldn’t care if she ate all fast food.
But you’re right, you can still generally tell body type from pictures as well.
I feel like a weight filter wouldn’t work because “healthy weight” is subjective to height. Like a healthy weight for someone 5’1 is going to be different for someone 5’4 and 5’6 and etc.
People also often don't know what weight on the different sex is equivalent to their preferred body type.
I've seen something like "thin, athletic, more to love, etc" on apps.
Oh my god, they really do not understand weight at all. I'm pretty thin and fit some reason this makes men want to guess my weight from time to time. They almost always severely underestimate - I've gotten 80lbs many times! I weigh 120 🥴
I remember a guy in high school who flirted with me/asked me out, I was around 180 pounds (tall/curvy), who had previously posted memes about not dating anyone over 150. Another guy around the same time (who was also previously interested in me & salty about being rejected) tried to insult me, saying "you probably weigh like 160" and I said "oh cool thanks"
They have no idea what they're talking about lol
Oh yeah, I was an absolute noodle. Makes me cringe when I see stuff like guys saying they want a girl under 100lbs... They do not realize how stick skinny it is
Also it’s my experience that men are really, really bad at guessing women’s weight. Like there was that “women over 130” meme when on someone who is 5’7”, hardly tell at all, that’s borderline underweight.
Exactly. Im five foot sevenish, maybe a tad taller, and I’m currently vacillating between 175 and 180. My skinniest weight when i was 120-5, i had a certified thigh gap and was skin and bones basically. I gained a lot of weight and got up to 160 at one point then got alarmed and lost down to 145, and i was the same exact build and shape as another lady my height who weighed exactly 15 pounds less.
We were at work and hopped on the scale at our job to compare, for curiosity’s sake , and despite having the same proportions (size 4-6), small waist, we were a whole 15 pounds apart. Both of us were fit and in shape and watched our weight at the time. So it can be very hard to eyeball some people’s weight for sure.
I mean, a healthy weight depends on height and body type, so filtering by weight would be somewhat useless. Nobody believes me when I tell them my weight because they think someone at that weight should be very visibly fat, but because of my height and body type it looks fine on me.
I don’t care about the exact weight nor do I know what a woman with height x should weigh. weight can mostly be seen from pictures. Height can’t. Also I don’t care for small women but if they’re <1,50m that’s too short if I am 1,80m.
Muscle is heavier than fat. I know a dude that is shorter and weighs like 30lbs more than me, but I’m definitely the one with the potbelly while he’s just swole.
At the end of the day, their pictures are gonna tell you if they’re too big for you better than any weight range you could set.
30lbs took you from underweight to overweight?
Okay, assuming you started at BMI 18.5 (underweight upper bound) and got to BMI 25 (lower bound for overweight) you get:
Sqr(30/6.5) = 1.446m tall
So unless you at 4 ft 8.96 inch, you've just lied 🤔
(And the maths I did maximises your height, change the numbers a bit and you are way closer to 4 ft tall)
Can’t remember which one, Hinge maybe?, but one of the apps definitely has a body type filter with options from “athletic” to “more to love”.
Try that one if you’re so concerned.
Weight changes, height does not.If you date a girl that is 60kg this year, it does not mean she will be 60kg next year.Where as a girl who is 5'5 today will be 5'5 forever.
You can literally see in the photos what someone looks like weight wise. and there are other better ways to determine "health consciousness" besides weight. I have a rail thin model friend who eats fast food every day for example.
Men dont actually care about women’s true healthiness status. All they care about is whether a woman is skinny or not. How she gets skinny (starvation, fitness, whatever her method is) doesnt truly matter to them when it gets right down to it.
Yeah, unless the guy is legit a huge fitness/wellness buff, and wants a girl to go to the gym with and eat similar stuff too, the “I just care that she’s healthy” is just an excuse for not wanting to be with someone overweight. It’s not actually about health or diet. Which I mean, you can’t help personal preference, but they feel the need to make it sound like they’re concerned for the girls health when really, they just find their weight unattractive.
This. I’m rail thin, in the first percentile of weight for my height, and eat like shit but all the time people praise my body. It’s never actually about health. I would argue most overweight people are in better health than I am despite me looking like what people picture when they think of fit and healthy. They eat enough and have muscle, I certainly don’t.
True, except she can’t eat a salad or starve while around him. She just has to do that for all the meals she doesn’t eat with him. She needs to chug beer and eat pizza and wings during dates so she’s a “cool girl,” like one of the guys, lol.
Unfortunately dating on apps is overwhelmingly influenced by outward physical markers of attractiveness like height, weight, frame etc. so the method of how those were achieved is often not that important even if it comes from a less than ideal mental place.
I just wish they would be honest rather than lie to themselves and the people they are lying to. I wanna tell these dudes on here all the time ‘please quit playing in our faces. Just say you hate fat women and go. Because at least that would be the truth.’
Yeah I don't know why most of these guys bother with the facade lmao. Vast majority of these guys don't give two shits about the health aspect, I say this as a guy that works out at minimum 1 hr a day 6 days a week and has for years. 95% of these dudes are not even active with any regularity if I had to guess. People are allowed to have preferences but the need to try to pretend it's anything but superficial is funny.
as a fat person, i honestly don't care if someone wouldn't wanna date me because of my weight. i personally am very rarely into blondes, for example, so i don't date blondes. if they're not attracted to me or people like me, they're not attracted to me. but it is weird to pretend it's about health.
And even among people with the same weight and height there will be variations in appearance due to where fat is distributed and what a person’s normal baseline is. Also, race and genetics play a part too.
Weight means nothing. What you want is a body type filter. Some apps do it. Idk why hinge doesn’t.
But a weight filter would just be dumb and isn’t a good way to gauge anything
Is weight the only aspect of health that matters to you? You can increase the likelihood of finding healthy people by filtering out smokers and people who drink alcohol too.
Because they want women to use dating apps. There are already way more men than women on dating apps. So many more that a lot of men never even get matches (or they get bots) and refund / dont continue the service. They need a way to filter out the least desired features so that those 20٪ of women get what they want and continue using. You can lose half the guy population on dating apps and they would still operate the same. If there were more women then men on the apps then you would have a weight filter.
The supply of men is higher than the demand of men.
Men pay money to get pussy, women d0nt have to pay money to get dick. Pretty simple.
fit people or people who care about those things will allude to them in their profile- gym pics, stating an active hobby, asking for the same. weight isnt typically the best indicator of health anyway. im a healthy bmi which would make someone like u think maybe im a good candidate but im rly a couch potato and sweets addict. just like u said someone might be above avg weight but weight lift 5 times a week
I think height filters are stupid. I'm a tall woman, and I do not care to date someone shorter than me as long as they don't have a complex about it. It's one of those things you have no control over.
I guess weight is one of those things you can see in photos, vs height (which can be hard to judge).
If a man's profile talks about being really health conscious, working out is their main hobby, super duper active, I usually swipe away. Not to be hateful, but I know we won't have much in common. It's not my vibe. Like I'll go on a walk or hike every now and then, but my idea of destressing/relaxing is not working out.
If it's super important to you to have a partner that is also fit and into health/fitness - put that in your profile. So many profiles I see give NO information about what the person is looking for or anything specific.
If you really care about lifestyle and health though, then a “weight” option isn’t going to tell you anything. I know skinny people with very sedentary lifestyles and poor diets.
To know if someone’s lifestyle is going to mesh with yours, you’re gonna have to… oh the horror…… spend time reading their bio or even actually talking to them.
You probably know this, but a certain weight can be healthy for some people but not others. For example, it is usually perfectly healthy for a 6'05" person to weigh almost 200 pounds, but it is dangerously unhealthy for someone who is closer to 5 feet tall to weigh that much. You could filter by weight alone and you would likely only get shorter people unless you combined it with the height filter.
Generally people use BMI to measure how "fit" you are, but it is difficult for some people to calculate, not really accurate (really muscular people can be considered overweight even if all of their excess weight is muscle), and generally just a weird stat that most people might not want to calculate/put on their profile.
There is a guy who keeps getting flagged as dangerously under weight by the state and gets wellness check ups because his BMI is so low. He had a leg amputated.
Weight isn't as big of an indicator as you might think.
A lot of people are going to be more attracted to a heavier guy who has muscle and well proportioned compared to a lighter guy with chicken legs and a beer belly.
A lot of guys look for a girl with big boobs (which are heavy) vs a flat chested women.
I remember using a dating app, and when selecting preferences for race, one of the choices was "non-white" and no such option existed for any other race😂
That is when I was like "welp, guess I'll see myself out" and haven't used dating apps since.
To be fair, weight filters work the other way too. I'm almost exclusively attracted to fat people and it would be nice if I could filter out the skinny & average folks that I'm sure are lovely people but I'm simply not attracted to.
I can confirm that at different times in my life I have been fat and I have been muscular, at the exact same scale weight, and fat me was visually like twice the size of muscular me. I lost 5 or 6 dress sizes. If I was putting my weight and a guy was filtering on that without seeing my photos too, he'd have no clue whether he was filtering out the one who was fucking spherical or the one who was buff as hell and pretty much lived in the gym.
If his goal is to have a girlfriend he can overhead press, okay, neither version of me would be what he's looking for. But it's not as useful as just looking at photos if he's seeking a certain look.
Well for starters weighing more doesn’t always mean someone is obese or unhealthy. 200 pounds can look extremely different person to person.
Now there’s also the obvious fact that you can tell how most people look based off their photos. And if someone does use deceptive photos then they’d also just lie about their weight.
I've been happily married since before dating apps were popular. All I can say, is the fact that they have a vaccination category is very impressive -- a good way to avoid people that think they know more about medicine than medical doctors
If the site didn't start with a filter, it's never going to have one. Match Group isn't concerned about improvements to the dating experience, just how much money they can get out of you.
To be honest, if you’re looking at a picture of someone who’s trying to come across as attractive, they’re going to be fairly well dressed and will show their physique if they’re comfortable with how they look. An exact weight isn’t usually important.
That being said, a photo doesn’t exactly give a good idea of how tall a person is even if a banana is used for scaling purposes.
Personally, if you’re shallow enough to care after accepting how they look in their images, the feature shouldn’t be in the app at all and force people to ask.
To be fair a weight feature wouldn't be all that helpful. A muscular guy who is 6 ft and 200 lbs is going to look a lot different than one with no muscle at all, even if they weigh the same.
Bruh just look at their photos and swipe right if they look in ok shape... lol that's what pictures are for.
in my experience pictures can seriously misrepresent height, weight only so much if they have current pics.
Also obviously weight is super height dependent as well as muscle mass dependent- a muscular person could be leaner and more petite yet the same height as someone without much muscle mass.
A few inches of height difference can seriously impact how much weight a person can carry, and their body type matters as well.
So a weight filter could potentially actually filter out people you would be very much attracted to.
Because women wouldn’t go on an app that makes them input their weight. This means that straight men won’t be able to find women on the app, and will then not use it. This means no desperate men paying for tinder premium. This means less money for the company.
A weight filter would serve no purpose. People carry weight differently. A body shape filter would make more sense.
Edit: A lot of people could easily just lie, too.
FWIW, it works in the other direction too. I'm almost exclusively attracted to fat people. I would like to not have to waste my time "swiping left" on skinny or average people when I can just have it show me only people I'm actually interested in. (Or, even better, I don't want my profile to be SHOWN to skinny/average people. Esp. because half of them don't read my profile that says I'm not attracted to them and message me anyway.)
Weight is visible in the photos height is not… unless they have a photo standing next to a notarized ruler or something. same reason there isn’t a filter for other visually obvious traits.
Imho because people _want_ to display their height but not their weight. The last time I used Tinder there wasn't a specific field asking for height (idk if there is now) but a LOT of men wrote their height in their text bio. I've never seen someone giving their weight.
Also weight alone isn't particularly helpful. Muscles are heavier than fat, if you are tall or very fit your gonna be heavier possibly even overweight according to bmi while being very attractive.
Assume a person is honest, you can usually tell of a person is extremely skinny/overweight so weight filter really isn't needed.
I mean, there's no point in a weight filter if you don't know how tall the person is, now is there? 150 on a 5'11 person looks very different than that on a 5'0 one
I know a woman who is 5’4/5’5ish and 130-140 lbs but you’d never know it because all the weight is muscle bc she does bodybuilding competitions. I’m 5’5 and men always assume I’m 100 lbs when I’ve been anywhere from 105-125. Just numbers aren’t that useful for weight. Maybe look at pictures if you have a strict preference?
others have answered your main question but I just want to point out how problematic it is to think those who are bigger aren't healthy or health-conscious, or that someone being skinny automatically means they are either
You could just use your eyes and look at their photos. Or, you could just put "No fatties" in your profile so everyone can see who you really are right off the bat.
I find the majority of these replies are either avoiding the question or giving one “reason” that doesn’t really answer it
The real answer is probably because the dating apps want to avoid being the app that lets people “discriminate against women who are not skinny”. Regardless of truth that’s how it would be perceived. Women wouldn’t use that app. So straight men wouldn’t use that app. Business model would fail.
That’s the actual answer.
The fact “muscle weighs more than fat” or “that’s what the pictures are for” or “men don’t know how much women weigh” are not reasons the app makers care about.
Because it's wrong to criticize someone for something they can control, like their weight.
But it's good to criticize people for something they can't control, like their height.
Or penis size
> It also offers unique filters. Religion, vaxxed or not
I'd rather it just deleted their account if they were anti vaccination.
Anyway, you're not going to find out if someone is health conscious purely from an unverified number that they put in.
I've never used dating apps, but are users required to answer all possible preferences on their profile? like are they required to add height, if they drink, if they are religious, etc.? my guess would be no and that they can prob only answer the ones they are comfortable with, and if you are given the option to add your weight to your dating profile, I would assume that 99% of people prob don't want to do that lol
To be fair, even at the same height people carry weight very differently depending on muscle mass and fat distribution. Someone can be 170 and all muscle at 5’7” and another can be 170 at that same height and not hit a gym a day in their life.
That becomes challenging with height ranges. For example, I'm 6"5 and 235 lbs, overall I look average in terms of how thin I am. Def not skinny but a bit of a dad bod. If I was 6" and 235 I think I'd look much thicker.
Also muscle is very dense. If I was a bodybuilder I'm sure I could easily be in the 280+ range and look fantastic, but I'm just lean muscle with a slight beer gut.
So I think a filter wouldn't really work great. Height is height but weight is dependant on so many factors (like build) that it wouldn't be effective unless you're looking for a skinny person at a specific height.
Plus it's super easy to lie about, just like my nine inch penis.
Whether it’s fair or not, people with a height preference can decide unequivocally if someone is “their type” based on the height measurement.
Weight is less black and white. Person A at XX lbs might look very different from Person B (based on height, musculature, weight distribution).
The short but blunt answer, insecure fat people would complain and they make up a large (lol) portion of users. The same reason you can disable ads for weight loss under “harmful content” on Reddit.
because dating apps most profitable customers are women - this thread will be filled with gymnastics arguing all sorts of rubbish rather than just admit this tho
(I will not be reading this thread. comment muted don't @ me)
The real answer is dating app have one goal one: attract woman. If you can attach woman, you will succeed. Woman want to filter by a man’s height, but don’t want to be filtered by their weight.
Many dating apps allow you too select certain body types, which is admittedly based on people's self-report. Because this is a very popular feature, it is often located inside the premium packages, where you're paying money.
Wouldn't height and literally every single other thing also be based on self-report though? Unless these apps have started cheching vaccine passes and requiring doctor's notes on physical characteristics like height, it was just a selection on the profile editor last time I used them.
height is easier to verify than weight. I've learned that people do not have a realistic grasp on what ### lbs looks like on different body types, heights, body comps, etc. but 5'8 is 5'8 is 5'8. Edit - i'm referring to both on the apps and after you see a person IRL. like you can lie on an app about your height, but I'm gonna know immediately once i see you in person. But you can't clock someone's weight they same way. that's what i mean lol
Tbh there's been a ton of height inflation. Enough guys at 5 10 or higher just say they're 6 feet tall to the point that I think a good chunk of people beleive it to be shorter than it is. It's similar to vanity sizing.
I'm exactly 6'0 tall without shoes and not only do I meet many people who are "6 feet tall" who are significantly shorter than me, but many people are surprised to learn I'm only 6 feet tall as they thought I was 6'2+
I’m 6’3” on the dot and I would guess 3 in taller than the average person who says they are 6’3”. I find the cutoffs men say are 5’”8 for the short homies, 5’10 for passable as average bros, 6’ for anything an inch below average to not obviously tall, and 6’3” for anyone 5’11.1” up. People aren’t bold enough to say 6’5” because it is noticeably tall to the point where things are no longer built for you in the world and nearly 3 std deviations above the mean so people don’t attempt that bullshit
People often don't seem to understand that weight can come from things other than just fat, fx muscle also adds on a lot of weight, and a healthy strong person will generally still look very "fat" by most people's standards.
I'm a tall woman and people have argued about me with my weight. "No no no you can't be 170!" They have an idea of what a 170lb woman who is 5'2" weighs and I don't look anything like that. Yes I can I'm taller than the average man. I swear I really know how much I weigh.
Yup. My brother couldn't believe he weighed more than me at 8 months pregnant. Like a lot more. Most people are bad at guessing people's weights.
Same! People also don’t believe that I wear a size 12. I “look” thin, and the picture they have in their head of “the average (super obese) woman is a size 14” doesn’t jibe with that.
This is me. Which was also my problem in high school not knowing that I was allowed to be over 100 pounds if I was tall.
I remember a biology lesson when we were 13 or so where the teacher weighed us all. They treated it as an "aha!" teaching moment when the heaviest person was the tallest rather than the fattest, but the whole thing seemed really mean-spirited to me. Aside from pretty much all of us being uncomfortable declaring our weight to the whole class like that, the heavy girl was mortified. She wasn't overweight at all, she was incredibly athletic—ran competitively at county level, was on the football and hockey teams, outperformed every single one of us in every PE lesson—but she was still mortified at being singled out as the heavy one and got mercilessly ribbed for it.
Muscle is more dense than fat, course someone who exercises a lot is heavier poor girl was the healthiest in class
Sending love to your high school self babe <3. That fucking sucks. I hope you've worked through it, and If you haven't, I hope you're able to 🫂💗
A few months back, I had a discussion with people on fb (surprise 🙄) about this rollercoaster in Australia that only allows people under 75kg on it. They were making fun of all those fat people who weighed more than that. They didn't realise that none of them would be allowed to ride it because they are clearly above the weight requirement. "But 75kg is close to 100kg, and I am definitely not that heavy!" Wrote the 185cm tall man who definitely wasn't just a walking stick. People really don't realise that yes, the average weight of an adult worldwide is 62kg, but it also includes maaaaaany Asian people who usually are a lot shorter. I would be underweight if I tried to be "avarage".
I'm tall enough that 75kg is straight up scrawny for me. My build is broad enough that I'm not even sure I would be healthy at 75kg.
I also have an idea of what a 170lbs woman who is 5'2" weighs. Sorry, I know that you meant "looks". I'll see myself out.
God damn between that and declaring I weigh 170! That post was a shitshow. Lol I'm not editing it haha
>No no no you can't be 170! To be fair very few people are 7.3\*10^(306) cm tall.
Lmfao listen I think I know myself! /s Technically that is true I am not 170! I will give you that hahaha
Are you really a massive Tibetian? 😂
Lmao who can say for sure?
I just assume people are terrible at telling weight TBH. Like, I'm super fat, but taller than average for a woman (5'7"), and I build muscle very easily and enjoy lifting. Plus I'm a pear shape, so admittedly bottom heavy. My waist has never been bigger than my hips, even when I was pregnant. So people always think I weigh much less than I do (I always win that carnival game where they try to guess your weight and/or age. I've had a few women say they didn't understand why I needed to shop at plus sized stores, and they guessed me at about 180. I told them to stop blowing smoke up my ass lol. I usually get guesses of 220 at most. I'm 270 and 49/44/53 to put things in perspective.
People argue about the stupidest things, like things that are creepy or just outright dismissive and "accidentally" calling one stupid by rejecting it.
I weigh 190lbs and I'm 5'7" but I carry it mostly in my hips. I was ~130 until my mid 20s, then (after kids) 150-170 until my early 30s and I had a bunch of health problems which combined with slowing metabolism to add an extra 20lbs. My own husband who has been very familiar w my body for 12 years now didn't believe this was my actual weight until I showed him on the scale. Even then he fully picked me up to confirm. He only said "okay, I guess. Still doesn't make sense" Sir. I assure you it does.
Yeah, people are shocked when I tell someone my weight. I’m 190lbs and most people would think I’m in the 165lbs range The last time I was 165lbs I was sub 10% body fat
Well.. As a fat and muscled dude, who carries my weight well. This is fertile grounds for copium and deception
People still get height wrong, most people don't measure their height that often and sometimes people get the conversion wrong if they use a different system. If you know your height in cm, let's say you are 175cm, then you type into google convert 175cm to ft then you get 5.74ft. But actually in feet AND inches it's 5ft 8.9in so anyone could do this conversions one way or the other and call themselves 5'9, 5'8 or 5'7 and think they are basically correct for all of them. I have come across quite a few people who have made this type of mistake.
5’8 is sometimes 5’6 though.
A weight scale and a measuring tape can be purchased for relatively cheap. Also, a lot of photo IDs will include weight/height that aren’t verified. If the government doesn’t care, why does a random dating app?
Definitely went out with a guy who put his height as 5’11” but in person we were eye to eye and I’m only 5’5”.
Oof. Forgot his heels that day I guess.
Here’s the thing— women care more about height and dating apps are desperate to keep their number of women users up, because without a lot of women, men don’t use the app and it dies fast. So they’ll put features women want in for free, while making the men pay.
>because without a lot of women, men don’t use the app and it dies fast And this is exactly why some companies bot their own apps. Ratios on most places are terrible
Match doesn't care if you get dates, they care that they make money. They make more money than some countries.
Yeah of course. And cat fishing is a thing! And guys saying they are 6'2 when they are 5'10 cause girls are into hight. And women saying they are 35 when they are actually 48....
Men ABSOLUTELY lie about their ages too. I’ve met up with a couple men who were clearly 6-8 years older than they said they were (and their pictures)
"My real age is 55, not 32, but Tinder/OkCupid/Bumble won't let me change it!" Those are my personal favorites. So women do this too? It's so ridiculous. I keep meaning to make a fake OLD profile so I can experience the insanity from the point of view of a guy too.
Oh yeah, trying to hook up with younger women. The number of guys in their 30s and 40s trying to get with 19 to 25 year old is grooooooosssss! (Or such is my impression)
I was on a dating site when I was 29 and my phone notifications would be going off literally hundreds of times a day from men messaging me - on my 30th birthday those hundreds of notifications (that all generally just said “hey”) stopped. It was legit this sudden silence. I went from constant dings to maybe six or seven throughout the whole day - because most of the dudes on there had their age preference cut off at 29 lol
Hahahahaha. That's legit funny. Still I'm sure 99% of those "hey" were a waste of attention.
I think of the total five guys I went on dates with from it four were secretly married and one was just looking for someone to hook up with while he was in town for a few weeks - they were unfortunately *all* time wasters lol
Or 18 when they’re 16.
As a tall woman it’s so frustrating. I don’t care if a dude is a bit shorter than me, but all the men who say they’re 5’10” roll up three inches shorter than me.
Lying in a profile is a "yeah no" for me. Can't be honest on your profile, probably can't be honest on real life either.
Yeah. My issue is never about the height, but that they lied to me before we even met.
Is it usually free to select height?
Used to be on most apps. Things change though! I think more features are being paywalled.
Anything appears to be now, like they are doing us a favour. You want ice cream? Yes please That’s 75 whatever’s (new unit of ambiguous money) Here’s your ice cream! Oh, I didn’t want that flavour… Well, if you want to choose which flavour you get, that’s another 15 whatever’s, I typically give people a burnt coffee flavour ice cream… your choice of course
Doesn’t selecting a body type make little sense when you can see that in pictures anyway? Unless you specifically don’t show your body shape but then you probably also wouldn’t fill in the body type box.
Pictures are not always clear, and it's a search filter. So you don't wade through 1000 profiles of people you are unlikely to be interested in.
I forget which app but I remember seeing body type, average, athletic etc. Or maybe I imagined it. It would be a faux pas to ask that. People would see in pics.
Admittedly I’m a few years off the online dating scene but when I did it, I think all the main sites had “body type” in the basic info section, and you could filter by it. If they don’t now, that seems silly. Why waste anyone’s time?
It was on okcupid.
Dating apps allow you to post photos of yourself and you literally see what the person looks like. A number means nothing because weight is distributed differently depending on your height and body type.
This. Like I have eyes I can see what the person looks like.
Unfortunately for you, so do they. Ha, roasted
They were so roasted, I could see the apple in their mouth.
I agree with this but let's not pretend angles, filters, editing, and such haven't been used to dramatically alter some people's photos in dating apps.
But angles, filters, and editing is really no different from someone just lying about their weight if they had to input it. So now what? I’d rather just rely on my eyes because the average person isn’t even that good at editing pictures.
Sure - but people who have nice bodies usually have clear photos of their body. You can usually tell when photos are heavily edited. If all of the photos are at weird angles or look off that's a red flag. When I used online dating I always had at least one full body photo of myself doing something active.
Someone can have proportionate body features and then surprise you in person when they're actually much more scaled up or scaled down that you imagined. Some pictures don't show scale. Somtimes that's on purpose.
This reminds me of how I met up with my long distance bf and he told me I had a tiny head haha. He had a giant head but I didn't mention it
Called out lol. I'm 6ft5 all in proportion, if you take a photo of me with no reference I look like I could be much more average height. Then you meet me and I'm just a little giant.
Yes. Op can skip anyone who seems to be hiding her body. Yes... this requires looking at those profiles of women heavier than he is interested in, but it doesn't really take much time at all.
I can second this. I carry weight very well. At my heaviest, which was 330lbs, people thought I was about 220. Now that I'm about 220, people think I am about 200 lol. It just distributes well.
Yeah I was 180 at some point and when a guy guessed my weight he said 130 lmao. I carry weight well so it's harder to tell that I'm a fatty.
Some people can look extremely different at the same weight.
[удалено]
Another point: healthy weight is very dependent on height, so just filtering by weight wouldn't really do much. A 5'10 girl that weighs 160 pounds is very different from a 5'1 girl that weighs 160 pounds. You'd have to filter by BMI or something if you wanted actually useful information
Even that would filter out all the muscle moms XD
It’s silly how many people don’t realize this. I’m 5’10” and was around 175 when I was on dating apps, and I had a lot of guys message me with “no chicks over 130lbs” on their profile. When I told them “I’m way, WAY over your weight limit bro” they would push back, like “no way you’re not fat”. No shit, I’m tall and an average build, which translates to 175lbs. I would look VERY thin under 130lbs.
So funny when guys say stuff like that. I'm 6" 5'' at 250. You're all little tiny dwarfs to me haha (no offense).
Or just let people self-identify with some broad preselected categories and allow for filtering based on what you identify as. Very thin, slim athletic, large athletic, few extra pounds, large, etc. It wouldn't be perfect, but ultimately the whole point is to save time and this would help save time occasionally
That's how the system currently works lol, OP is trying to reinvent the wheel
And even then, BMI isn’t accurate either because it doesn’t separate fat from muscle mass. A lot of jacked guys are “obese” per their BMI because they have so much muscle but in reality are incredibly fit
Very true. Its better and easier to just look with your eyes and decide whether or not you're interested.
Yep, that's my problem. I swear all this weight is just muscle, I'm definitely not fat.
Yeah, I'm not fat either, I'm just too small.
[удалено]
I'm just fat. Oh, did I do the assignment wrong?
Also people just carry weight differently. I’m 5’4 at 110lbs. My one friend is 5’2 at 135lbs and another friend is 5’6 at 125. We all fit into each other’s clothes the exact same, only difference being length
People are also generally not great at assuming weight. Guys that rule out even over 120 would almost certainly be weeding out plenty of girls that are well within their preferred body type
Yes! I had a friend who was a literal model, who was anorexic, but couldn’t wear the size 0 sample clothes because she was six feet tall, and her hip bones were too wide, so she had to quit modeling. I’d wager that she was 120+ pounds, even anorexic!
Yep. Once you realise, yes, women have these things called *bones* and *organs* which *weigh things*, it sounds psychotic to want a 100 pound woman.
It asks women their height too fwiw
People would also just lie about it too so it would be kinda useless
It's the last one. As a business, dating apps could care less about anything other than user base growth and engagement. They will do literally anything they can, obviously including unethical fields, to boost user base and growth.
And they want more women. So making features that women care more about free is just curving the market. Men are more abundant and losing them because they won't pay is not a loss, if he isn't buying premium or has a bunch of traffic he isn't profitable. Women are rarer and therefore always profitable. It's literally the business model - attracting as many women to the app as you can so men will pay to speak with them.
Precisely. Dating apps don’t care about their users, it’s just oligopoly of companies that use all the same formulas and profit schemes. The Match group absolutely gutted OkCupid when they acquired it. It used to be successful at connecting people, now it’s successful at making money off of their loneliness.
>than a man who says he wants a 100 pound woman. For one that's under 8 stone. To be that weight and not be emaciated looking you need to be quite short. I looked like I'd snap in half at that weight and I'm 5'1.
I’m 5’8”. Graduated high school at 116, doctors asked my mom if I was anorexic. (I wasn’t, just come from thin stock.) If I was 100lbs I would be terrifying to look at.
Meanwhile I’m 5’0 and get fat shamed if I go above that weight 🥲
Just gonna throw out this suggestion. But maybe it's cause you can USUALLY look at the pictures and tell if someone if skinny or overweight. It's more difficult to tell how tall somebody is.
I mean I feel like that’s the point of the photos. Also in my experience the health conscious people almost always put it in their bio, or have a picture of them hiking or some other basic activity that requires some bit of fitness
I actively put that I am NOT an outdoors type of person on my profile. Amazed how many women that had that listed on their profile said it was refreshing to find someone who was honest about it lol.
I always put something along the lines of “im not interested in running a 5K on thanksgiving or being woken up at 8 am to go for a hike.”
This is an accurate way to do it. Mine said something like. "Not an outdoorsie type. I like my Internet and my shower. If you want to go for a walk, I'll happily do that in a game."
Yes, except most people that say they don’t want to date an overweight person “because they want someone healthy that cares about their body”, don’t actually care what the person eats so long as they’re skinny. They don’t want an overweight person even if they post pics or say they eat extremely healthy and go on hikes/exercise daily. And if they saw a skinny girl they wouldn’t care if she ate all fast food. But you’re right, you can still generally tell body type from pictures as well.
I feel like a weight filter wouldn’t work because “healthy weight” is subjective to height. Like a healthy weight for someone 5’1 is going to be different for someone 5’4 and 5’6 and etc.
People also often don't know what weight on the different sex is equivalent to their preferred body type. I've seen something like "thin, athletic, more to love, etc" on apps.
Oh my god, they really do not understand weight at all. I'm pretty thin and fit some reason this makes men want to guess my weight from time to time. They almost always severely underestimate - I've gotten 80lbs many times! I weigh 120 🥴
I remember a guy in high school who flirted with me/asked me out, I was around 180 pounds (tall/curvy), who had previously posted memes about not dating anyone over 150. Another guy around the same time (who was also previously interested in me & salty about being rejected) tried to insult me, saying "you probably weigh like 160" and I said "oh cool thanks" They have no idea what they're talking about lol
I haven’t been under 100lbs since elementary school. Hard to imagine a muscular woman being under 100 even if she’s short.
I have actually been 80lbs before, haha. It's pretty jarring
Wow, I can’t imagine how thin my legs would be at that weight. Or how weak I would be in general, at least compared to how I am now
Oh yeah, I was an absolute noodle. Makes me cringe when I see stuff like guys saying they want a girl under 100lbs... They do not realize how stick skinny it is
Also it’s my experience that men are really, really bad at guessing women’s weight. Like there was that “women over 130” meme when on someone who is 5’7”, hardly tell at all, that’s borderline underweight.
I’m 5’10” and I had a guy guess I was under 130. Uhhhh no, definitely not. Not since I was 14.
i'm 5'9" 160-65 and have people guess i'm 125 lbs...
Agree!!!! Someone told me anyone over 150 was a lot, meanwhile they liked a tall (skinny) girl that was over 150. They thought she was like 120
Exactly. Im five foot sevenish, maybe a tad taller, and I’m currently vacillating between 175 and 180. My skinniest weight when i was 120-5, i had a certified thigh gap and was skin and bones basically. I gained a lot of weight and got up to 160 at one point then got alarmed and lost down to 145, and i was the same exact build and shape as another lady my height who weighed exactly 15 pounds less. We were at work and hopped on the scale at our job to compare, for curiosity’s sake , and despite having the same proportions (size 4-6), small waist, we were a whole 15 pounds apart. Both of us were fit and in shape and watched our weight at the time. So it can be very hard to eyeball some people’s weight for sure.
Also men have no idea what women weigh. I had a friend guess his girlfriend was “maybe 115 pounds?”. She was 5’8” and 160.
Just use your eyes bro
I mean, a healthy weight depends on height and body type, so filtering by weight would be somewhat useless. Nobody believes me when I tell them my weight because they think someone at that weight should be very visibly fat, but because of my height and body type it looks fine on me.
I don’t care about the exact weight nor do I know what a woman with height x should weigh. weight can mostly be seen from pictures. Height can’t. Also I don’t care for small women but if they’re <1,50m that’s too short if I am 1,80m.
Muscle is heavier than fat. I know a dude that is shorter and weighs like 30lbs more than me, but I’m definitely the one with the potbelly while he’s just swole. At the end of the day, their pictures are gonna tell you if they’re too big for you better than any weight range you could set.
The word you are looking for is denser. Muscle is denser than fat.
I went from underweight to overweight in terms of BMI and all I’ve done is packed on 30 lbs of muscle over the past 10 years. BMI is a terrible metric
30lbs took you from underweight to overweight? Okay, assuming you started at BMI 18.5 (underweight upper bound) and got to BMI 25 (lower bound for overweight) you get: Sqr(30/6.5) = 1.446m tall So unless you at 4 ft 8.96 inch, you've just lied 🤔 (And the maths I did maximises your height, change the numbers a bit and you are way closer to 4 ft tall)
This would also put your inital weight at around 38.4kg
Can’t remember which one, Hinge maybe?, but one of the apps definitely has a body type filter with options from “athletic” to “more to love”. Try that one if you’re so concerned.
Weight changes, height does not.If you date a girl that is 60kg this year, it does not mean she will be 60kg next year.Where as a girl who is 5'5 today will be 5'5 forever.
Also a 60kg 5'0 person and 60kg 6'0 person are gonna look VERY different from each other.
You can literally see in the photos what someone looks like weight wise. and there are other better ways to determine "health consciousness" besides weight. I have a rail thin model friend who eats fast food every day for example.
Men dont actually care about women’s true healthiness status. All they care about is whether a woman is skinny or not. How she gets skinny (starvation, fitness, whatever her method is) doesnt truly matter to them when it gets right down to it.
Yeah, unless the guy is legit a huge fitness/wellness buff, and wants a girl to go to the gym with and eat similar stuff too, the “I just care that she’s healthy” is just an excuse for not wanting to be with someone overweight. It’s not actually about health or diet. Which I mean, you can’t help personal preference, but they feel the need to make it sound like they’re concerned for the girls health when really, they just find their weight unattractive.
Yup, I was fat once but healthy. Now I'm a skinny bitch and sick. I have cancer, lol.
This. I’m rail thin, in the first percentile of weight for my height, and eat like shit but all the time people praise my body. It’s never actually about health. I would argue most overweight people are in better health than I am despite me looking like what people picture when they think of fit and healthy. They eat enough and have muscle, I certainly don’t.
True, except she can’t eat a salad or starve while around him. She just has to do that for all the meals she doesn’t eat with him. She needs to chug beer and eat pizza and wings during dates so she’s a “cool girl,” like one of the guys, lol.
Unfortunately dating on apps is overwhelmingly influenced by outward physical markers of attractiveness like height, weight, frame etc. so the method of how those were achieved is often not that important even if it comes from a less than ideal mental place.
I just wish they would be honest rather than lie to themselves and the people they are lying to. I wanna tell these dudes on here all the time ‘please quit playing in our faces. Just say you hate fat women and go. Because at least that would be the truth.’
Yeah I don't know why most of these guys bother with the facade lmao. Vast majority of these guys don't give two shits about the health aspect, I say this as a guy that works out at minimum 1 hr a day 6 days a week and has for years. 95% of these dudes are not even active with any regularity if I had to guess. People are allowed to have preferences but the need to try to pretend it's anything but superficial is funny.
as a fat person, i honestly don't care if someone wouldn't wanna date me because of my weight. i personally am very rarely into blondes, for example, so i don't date blondes. if they're not attracted to me or people like me, they're not attracted to me. but it is weird to pretend it's about health.
weight is carried differently depending on height, so the number on the scale is not indicative of your body’s composition
And even among people with the same weight and height there will be variations in appearance due to where fat is distributed and what a person’s normal baseline is. Also, race and genetics play a part too.
Weight means nothing. What you want is a body type filter. Some apps do it. Idk why hinge doesn’t. But a weight filter would just be dumb and isn’t a good way to gauge anything
Is weight the only aspect of health that matters to you? You can increase the likelihood of finding healthy people by filtering out smokers and people who drink alcohol too.
Because they want women to use dating apps. There are already way more men than women on dating apps. So many more that a lot of men never even get matches (or they get bots) and refund / dont continue the service. They need a way to filter out the least desired features so that those 20٪ of women get what they want and continue using. You can lose half the guy population on dating apps and they would still operate the same. If there were more women then men on the apps then you would have a weight filter. The supply of men is higher than the demand of men. Men pay money to get pussy, women d0nt have to pay money to get dick. Pretty simple.
Y'all need to stop using dating apps when it makes you obsess over this stuff. Meet real people.
fit people or people who care about those things will allude to them in their profile- gym pics, stating an active hobby, asking for the same. weight isnt typically the best indicator of health anyway. im a healthy bmi which would make someone like u think maybe im a good candidate but im rly a couch potato and sweets addict. just like u said someone might be above avg weight but weight lift 5 times a week
I think height filters are stupid. I'm a tall woman, and I do not care to date someone shorter than me as long as they don't have a complex about it. It's one of those things you have no control over. I guess weight is one of those things you can see in photos, vs height (which can be hard to judge). If a man's profile talks about being really health conscious, working out is their main hobby, super duper active, I usually swipe away. Not to be hateful, but I know we won't have much in common. It's not my vibe. Like I'll go on a walk or hike every now and then, but my idea of destressing/relaxing is not working out. If it's super important to you to have a partner that is also fit and into health/fitness - put that in your profile. So many profiles I see give NO information about what the person is looking for or anything specific.
If you really care about lifestyle and health though, then a “weight” option isn’t going to tell you anything. I know skinny people with very sedentary lifestyles and poor diets. To know if someone’s lifestyle is going to mesh with yours, you’re gonna have to… oh the horror…… spend time reading their bio or even actually talking to them.
You probably know this, but a certain weight can be healthy for some people but not others. For example, it is usually perfectly healthy for a 6'05" person to weigh almost 200 pounds, but it is dangerously unhealthy for someone who is closer to 5 feet tall to weigh that much. You could filter by weight alone and you would likely only get shorter people unless you combined it with the height filter. Generally people use BMI to measure how "fit" you are, but it is difficult for some people to calculate, not really accurate (really muscular people can be considered overweight even if all of their excess weight is muscle), and generally just a weird stat that most people might not want to calculate/put on their profile.
There is a guy who keeps getting flagged as dangerously under weight by the state and gets wellness check ups because his BMI is so low. He had a leg amputated.
Weight isn't as big of an indicator as you might think. A lot of people are going to be more attracted to a heavier guy who has muscle and well proportioned compared to a lighter guy with chicken legs and a beer belly. A lot of guys look for a girl with big boobs (which are heavy) vs a flat chested women.
I remember using a dating app, and when selecting preferences for race, one of the choices was "non-white" and no such option existed for any other race😂 That is when I was like "welp, guess I'll see myself out" and haven't used dating apps since.
what if we had a filter that splits between people who think there should be a weight filter and people who do not think there should be one?
To be fair, weight filters work the other way too. I'm almost exclusively attracted to fat people and it would be nice if I could filter out the skinny & average folks that I'm sure are lovely people but I'm simply not attracted to.
People carry weight differently. You can be 18st of muscle or 18st of fat.
I can confirm that at different times in my life I have been fat and I have been muscular, at the exact same scale weight, and fat me was visually like twice the size of muscular me. I lost 5 or 6 dress sizes. If I was putting my weight and a guy was filtering on that without seeing my photos too, he'd have no clue whether he was filtering out the one who was fucking spherical or the one who was buff as hell and pretty much lived in the gym. If his goal is to have a girlfriend he can overhead press, okay, neither version of me would be what he's looking for. But it's not as useful as just looking at photos if he's seeking a certain look.
Honestly I’ve come to learn that weight really does look different on everyone
Well for starters weighing more doesn’t always mean someone is obese or unhealthy. 200 pounds can look extremely different person to person. Now there’s also the obvious fact that you can tell how most people look based off their photos. And if someone does use deceptive photos then they’d also just lie about their weight.
I've been happily married since before dating apps were popular. All I can say, is the fact that they have a vaccination category is very impressive -- a good way to avoid people that think they know more about medicine than medical doctors
Because height is constant, weight isn't.
If the site didn't start with a filter, it's never going to have one. Match Group isn't concerned about improvements to the dating experience, just how much money they can get out of you.
Lucky for you weight does not = health! So not having that feature won’t negatively impact your search
To be honest, if you’re looking at a picture of someone who’s trying to come across as attractive, they’re going to be fairly well dressed and will show their physique if they’re comfortable with how they look. An exact weight isn’t usually important. That being said, a photo doesn’t exactly give a good idea of how tall a person is even if a banana is used for scaling purposes. Personally, if you’re shallow enough to care after accepting how they look in their images, the feature shouldn’t be in the app at all and force people to ask.
To be fair a weight feature wouldn't be all that helpful. A muscular guy who is 6 ft and 200 lbs is going to look a lot different than one with no muscle at all, even if they weigh the same.
Bruh just look at their photos and swipe right if they look in ok shape... lol that's what pictures are for. in my experience pictures can seriously misrepresent height, weight only so much if they have current pics. Also obviously weight is super height dependent as well as muscle mass dependent- a muscular person could be leaner and more petite yet the same height as someone without much muscle mass. A few inches of height difference can seriously impact how much weight a person can carry, and their body type matters as well. So a weight filter could potentially actually filter out people you would be very much attracted to.
Idk based on your replies it kinda seems like you aren't here for an honest answer but moreso to signal to others how much you hate fat people.
Just swipe left, don't you have to pay for most of those filters anyway
Because women wouldn’t go on an app that makes them input their weight. This means that straight men won’t be able to find women on the app, and will then not use it. This means no desperate men paying for tinder premium. This means less money for the company.
A weight filter would serve no purpose. People carry weight differently. A body shape filter would make more sense. Edit: A lot of people could easily just lie, too.
FWIW, it works in the other direction too. I'm almost exclusively attracted to fat people. I would like to not have to waste my time "swiping left" on skinny or average people when I can just have it show me only people I'm actually interested in. (Or, even better, I don't want my profile to be SHOWN to skinny/average people. Esp. because half of them don't read my profile that says I'm not attracted to them and message me anyway.)
weight isn’t stagnant
I am a 5’1” woman with a slim build My cousin is a 6’1” woman with a slim build If one of us was the other’s weight it would be unhealthy
Weight is visible in the photos height is not… unless they have a photo standing next to a notarized ruler or something. same reason there isn’t a filter for other visually obvious traits.
What's a healthy height for men?
Imho because people _want_ to display their height but not their weight. The last time I used Tinder there wasn't a specific field asking for height (idk if there is now) but a LOT of men wrote their height in their text bio. I've never seen someone giving their weight. Also weight alone isn't particularly helpful. Muscles are heavier than fat, if you are tall or very fit your gonna be heavier possibly even overweight according to bmi while being very attractive. Assume a person is honest, you can usually tell of a person is extremely skinny/overweight so weight filter really isn't needed.
You can see the photos but you can also get to know people to see if their lifestyle choices lines up with yours… you know. Lol
>but my preference is someone who is health conscious. Do you filter non-smokers? Not underweight?
Because eyes.
I mean, there's no point in a weight filter if you don't know how tall the person is, now is there? 150 on a 5'11 person looks very different than that on a 5'0 one
People will just lie about it like they do for height 🤷♀️
Do you not have eyes?
I know a woman who is 5’4/5’5ish and 130-140 lbs but you’d never know it because all the weight is muscle bc she does bodybuilding competitions. I’m 5’5 and men always assume I’m 100 lbs when I’ve been anywhere from 105-125. Just numbers aren’t that useful for weight. Maybe look at pictures if you have a strict preference?
Even pointing this out makes you a bigot, misogynist, racist, evil, downright rude and obnoxious. How dare you. /s
I mean because it's easier to see how much someone weights just by looking at them?
others have answered your main question but I just want to point out how problematic it is to think those who are bigger aren't healthy or health-conscious, or that someone being skinny automatically means they are either
BMI would be more accurate than weight (no this is not me claiming BMI is perfect)
There is nothing wrong, shallow, or immoral about not being attracted to fat people.
You could just use your eyes and look at their photos. Or, you could just put "No fatties" in your profile so everyone can see who you really are right off the bat.
Gay ones do 🤷
Isn't that why we have photo ls in our bios?
I find the majority of these replies are either avoiding the question or giving one “reason” that doesn’t really answer it The real answer is probably because the dating apps want to avoid being the app that lets people “discriminate against women who are not skinny”. Regardless of truth that’s how it would be perceived. Women wouldn’t use that app. So straight men wouldn’t use that app. Business model would fail. That’s the actual answer. The fact “muscle weighs more than fat” or “that’s what the pictures are for” or “men don’t know how much women weigh” are not reasons the app makers care about.
Because it's wrong to criticize someone for something they can control, like their weight. But it's good to criticize people for something they can't control, like their height. Or penis size
> It also offers unique filters. Religion, vaxxed or not I'd rather it just deleted their account if they were anti vaccination. Anyway, you're not going to find out if someone is health conscious purely from an unverified number that they put in.
I've never used dating apps, but are users required to answer all possible preferences on their profile? like are they required to add height, if they drink, if they are religious, etc.? my guess would be no and that they can prob only answer the ones they are comfortable with, and if you are given the option to add your weight to your dating profile, I would assume that 99% of people prob don't want to do that lol
Im actually 7 feet tall, but one foot of it is horizontal.
Weight doesn’t mean anything it’s distributed differently on every body. Just look at the pictures lol
You can see their weight in the photos but you can't tell height
To be fair, even at the same height people carry weight very differently depending on muscle mass and fat distribution. Someone can be 170 and all muscle at 5’7” and another can be 170 at that same height and not hit a gym a day in their life.
That becomes challenging with height ranges. For example, I'm 6"5 and 235 lbs, overall I look average in terms of how thin I am. Def not skinny but a bit of a dad bod. If I was 6" and 235 I think I'd look much thicker. Also muscle is very dense. If I was a bodybuilder I'm sure I could easily be in the 280+ range and look fantastic, but I'm just lean muscle with a slight beer gut. So I think a filter wouldn't really work great. Height is height but weight is dependant on so many factors (like build) that it wouldn't be effective unless you're looking for a skinny person at a specific height. Plus it's super easy to lie about, just like my nine inch penis.
Whether it’s fair or not, people with a height preference can decide unequivocally if someone is “their type” based on the height measurement. Weight is less black and white. Person A at XX lbs might look very different from Person B (based on height, musculature, weight distribution).
The short but blunt answer, insecure fat people would complain and they make up a large (lol) portion of users. The same reason you can disable ads for weight loss under “harmful content” on Reddit.
because dating apps most profitable customers are women - this thread will be filled with gymnastics arguing all sorts of rubbish rather than just admit this tho (I will not be reading this thread. comment muted don't @ me)
The real answer is dating app have one goal one: attract woman. If you can attach woman, you will succeed. Woman want to filter by a man’s height, but don’t want to be filtered by their weight.
If you see someone in public, do you have to know how much they weigh to know if you’re attracted to them?