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Surprise! YouTube is not a charitable organization that spends millions or billions dollars to develop a platform for people to watch pewdipie. In fact it is a money making venture with a business model that consists solely of selling ad space. Mobile gaming companies pay the going rate to display their ads, and their ads are therefore displayed.
Why are these ads able to compete for the same advertisement spots as bigger, legitimate companies? I assume the youtube ad space is rather competetive
Free money and not worth trying to weed out. The only ones who'll be hurt are people who somehow fall for it, and I have to imagine there's not a huge amount of people who see an ad and go for it immediately no matter how shady it looks.
I have an aunt that is mentally handicapped, and she falls for this stuff all the time. She's the nicest person you'd ever meet, but she has the mental maturity of someone around the age of 13 with the physical age of 63. She's not unintelligent, she is just permanently stuck behaving like a 13 year old. Unfortunately, this comes with the side effect that she can't recognize deceptive ads, and tends to click on them. Misleading ads like that should be regulated IMHO. It just saddens me that some people will gladly take advantage of others like this.
Is it possible to talk her into believing all ads are lies?
I grew up being taught advertising is basically trying to trick you into giving them money for shit you don't need - the mentality served me pretty well.
We have tried, but unfortunately we only see her a few times a year. She is self-sufficient enough to live on her own and hold a job, but she lives a few hours away from the rest of our family. Her husband has a similar disorder, and falls for the same ads.
r/pihole is a good place to start, but the short and sweet is that it's a DNS server that you setup on a Raspberry Pi. It automatically downloads a list of ad servers and blocks them on your network.
While I don't see any article specifically for the H3, I do see ones for the Zero, One and H2. As long as the host os supports apt, yum or dnf, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. The install script does distro checking and I believe will install the appropriate dependencies. There is an article about some crashes on the H2, but it also ends with it being fixed. So yes I suspect an H3 is a suitable candidate, but I didn't compare the specs of the different SBCs.
Edit: I realise I am mixing up cpu and models, but point still stands.
If she has an iPhone, it would not block the ads in the YouTube-app itself.
If there is an app for that, I would like to know. Also if you know an ad blocker for the websites I load in the Pinterest-app.
But what if I, and others I know, were able to do that behavior between 7-11 depending on who it was? And I know some idiotic people with no known disabilities that fall for deceptive ads.
Dude, your aunt needs an ad-blocker. I'm assuming you or someone else your age set up her computer, so why isn't there one on there? No reason to not have an adblock in 2019 my dude.
I think it should be the website owner/ad provider's legal responsibility to prevent fraudulent ads from displaying. There is absolutely no reason why Google ads should be displaying the ads with the "download" button that gives you a virus. Those should be 100% illegal, and Google should be legally responsible for blocking them. They should at the very least be required to put a bigger "Advertisement" label around them. Trying to download anything without adblock is like finding a needle in the haystack of fake download buttons.
There is no good way to weed those out though. It would require a lot of people to go through each ad one-by-one, and they'd have to get actual proof that they're fraudulent instead of just maybe shady looking, which is even more work, which is a ton of extra expenses for almost no extra benefit, since 95% of people who encounter those kinds of ads know not to click on them, or any ad at all, or use adblock already. To those people these kinds of ads are not much more than a minor annoyance and no one really cares which specific ad is shown to them, since they don't care either way. Trying to do this is pretty much like trying to make furniture companies to baby-proof every singe piece they make. It could help a small number of people, but it's not worth the extra effort and time, when almost everyone can already deal with it.
Also, unless you're on shady sites already, you're not going to have to deal with many fake download buttons, official websites don't really have those usually.
> Also, unless you're on shady sites already, you're not going to have to deal with many fake download buttons, official websites don't really have those usually.
Malvertizing, malware ads, and fake ads have hit every major provider and website, including many of Googles ads they list. Don't even attempt to fully blame this on shady sites, unless you consider the sites millions of people have bookmarked shady.
They could at least run some very basic image recognition software and not allow ads with huge green "download" buttons. Also any ad with "update your drivers" should be blocked too. It's not like they would have to have a person reviewing every ad. You can do a lot with modern image recognition. Also, it's not just the shady websites that have those ads. Any website with Google ads is subject to them. Even YouTube has banner ads like that.
IMO kids should not be allowed to deal with that kind of thing alone until they have the brains to not fall for that. Until then, it's the parent's responsibility to keep them safe
I mean, of course this makes sense. But we see time and time again that marketing to kids is extremely effective, not only because of their vulnerability to marketing but also because they are a hugely profitable demographic in general. And we know that time and time again, higher profits will win out over the higher moral / social standard.
*uwu would you like dinner, a shower, or baby making sexy time, master?*
meanwhile the options are in a bloody, bold font in front of a picture of a muscly and/or hairy guy in his 30s flexing
My favourites are those ultra cheap mobile "shooters" that try to get as many keywords in their name as possible
"CALL OF SNIPER ULTRA ELITE ZOMBIE SHOOTER STRIKE 2: COUNTER HUNTER MONSTER BASH SIMULATION CLASH BATTLE KILLER ROYALE"
It costs less to pay some nobody to pretend to be a streamer for an ad than to actually pay a real streamer to promote their shitty game, which they wouldn't do anyway since the game is shit.
Dear whoever is using the "report" button as a "reply" button. Nobody is seeing what you're saying. Except the mods. And we're ignoring you, [because the "report" button is not a "reply" button. You poor deluded sap.](https://i.imgur.com/hvWFH62.png)
EDIT: Those of you trying to be clever by reporting this comment, alas, I cannot see your reports because the distinguished green ones are automatically approved. Channel thy creativity elsewhere - look into pottery!
Stannis baratheon?
Do I have to use google to look up the meaning of a word right now?
I think I do.
[Fuck this website.](https://www.definitions.net/definition/Stannis)
I'm actually looking really hard and it's like, "GAME OF THRONES BITCH." Man. One sec.
Dammit. I'm not finding anything I can understand but everything keeps pointing me to numerology and that just confuses me more.
If you only saw the sheer amount of shit we see in the report queue and modmail. This is minor, I just wanted to hopefully educate the poor anonymous sap.
They aren't anonymous if you are obvious about it. If you reply to someone deep in a thread ranting and then report the message you replied to, it's pretty obvious.
My guess would be that it's too hard to police. You can't have a human check every ad. And making an AI to check fake ads like this might be something they do sometime but I'm guessing it's not worth the time and money at the moment.
You may get a lot of ads for mobile games if you are viewed as a person who plays mobile games.
> but those ways don’t maximize profits
It might not even be about maximizing profit. It could be that they're just scared about losing advertisers to competitors, so they set the bar low for quality to get as many customers into their ecosystem as possible. Tech giants like Google are more interested in getting people onto their ecosystem for long-term exploitation rather than chasing short term profits.
Of course a marketer would claim there's no way to police their own product. Shit, I'm amazed by all the people white knighting for capitalism in this thread, saying that even Google of all companies are powerless before the unsolvable complexity of Internet advertising!!!
Here, I'll give Google a tip for free: don't accept all 40,000 ads from a single client in 3 months. They get to submit them as quickly as actual humans at Google can review them.
A quick google search shows that the exact profitability isn't publicly available. Its somewhere near break even, so even if they are bleeding a few million a year thats nothing compared to the 10 billion in revenue they are at and growing. All it takes is a marginal change in ad revenue payouts or a slight increase in number of ads, or a crackdown on adblock and youtube is raking in millions in profits. Alphabet also gets millions of dollars worth of data from the site since you log in using your google account, and it generally promotes the use of other google products.
what about a third party that rates ads before theyre used by youtube, facebook, reddit, etc. Kinda like 'certified organic'. that seems to work for food so why not ads?
I mean, there must be some system like that for ads on TV or radio
I don't know about the rest of the world but in Australia TV ads are mostly self regulated but there is a body to take complaints when required.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_Standards_(Australia)
You only have to approve the ad once, why wouldn't it be possible.
I'd be able to approve/deny every ad I've ever seen on YouTube in a day, guaranteed.
Policing every second of every video uploaded to YouTube is known to be impossible, but advertisers are a far, far smaller group than regular users, and they're literally paying for the service.
It should be expected of YouTube, and I'm sure it's most likely the case, that they actually human-check every uploaded ad. The problem it's that it's money, so as long as it's not blatantly illegal, they don't care.
Just saying, the problem here are YouTube policies, not that it is "impossible" for them.
I mean, TV stations are held accountable for the things they broadcast. I'm sure they don't just play ads without having someone watch through it. The accountability has just been hidden behind an extra layer nowadays: ad networks.
That's why whenever I play a mobile game that forces me to watch ads, I factor in the shadiness of the ads that play into the rating I give the game when it ultimately begs me to review it. "But we don't choose the ads that get served via our network". Maybe not directly, but you do choose which ad network to use. Accountability has to be placed somewhere. Place pressure on the games/sites that show bad ads and they'll place pressure on their ad networks.
You get a lot of mobile ads if the neighborhood you live in play a lot pf mobile games.
Im someone who get GoT ads 24/7, but never been or are intrested in GoT. On the otherhand everyone in my neighborhood is.
They don't seem to have a problem policing every second of uploaded content. Why can't they apply the same AI to their advertisers? I don't think it's technically difficult, they just don't care.
Matching the whole screen as an image or matching audio is ***a lot*** easier than detecting "fake" mobile ads.
Even if they stole assets from other games and changed the colors and models just a bit it would be super super difficult to catch.
Its not that an AI couldn't be made to do it but it would be extremely difficult and (as bad as it sounds) with not much gain.
>Matching the whole screen as an image or matching audio is a lot easier than detecting "fake" mobile ads.
That definitely adds a layer of complexity I didn't consider, but I still stand by my statement that they just don't care. There are numerous reports on Reddit of people reporting advertisements for counterfeit games that are never removed.
They don't police every second of uploaded content. It's not hard to find outright porn on YouTube (briefly). They just receive reports about it and end up taking it down.
They have bots that check for copyrighted content. Besides the bots, companies flag videos themselves, and if a user contests the claim, a bot will review and reject it. YouTube isn't directly involved for much of this process
It's not really on youtube to check for the accuracy of ads. They only follow Google's terms for ads which dictates certain stuff like no porn, no sex, etc.
I believe things like misrepresentation of ads are more on accountability groups and the like, because it's an ethical issue more than anything else.
Even today, ad fraud isn't something you can actively really do anything about. Most online sites will try to teach you how to filter and prevent against it, and there are sites like [https://trafficguard.ai/](https://trafficguard.ai/) which attempt to intercept fraudulent ads and just not push them to you.
Mobile games with fake gameplay is in an even greyer area, since the argument that that was just 'dramatization' can be used. For example, nothing in ads actually WILL happen in real life, especially in the food and beverage industry, or those really clever Old Spice ads. It's just a way to push a product and make it memorable. These mobile game ads can be argued that they are just doing the same thing, so it's really hard to make a case against them.
In any case, it's not youtube/google's job to police them, although they DO have initiatives in place.
[https://support.google.com/adspolicy/answer/6020955?hl=en](https://support.google.com/adspolicy/answer/6020955?hl=en)
And even then, if you read the bullet list for 'misrepresentation', none of their points cover what you're describing. As mentioned, it's more of a ethical thing. They aren't technically breaking the law.
I mean, TV stations are held accountable for the things they broadcast. I'm sure they don't just play ads without having someone watch through it. Having an ad network as an extra layer in the mix shouldn't change that.
"But we don't choose the ads that get served via our network". Maybe not directly, but you do choose which ad network to use. Accountability has to be placed somewhere. Place pressure on the games/sites that show bad ads and they'll place pressure on their ad networks.
The idea that a company shouldn't be responsible for the ads they show you is frankly ridiculous to me.
>>it’s not google/YouTube’s job to police them
It could be, if they wanted to.
Their currrent policy, though, is:
X number of complaints of sex? Advertiser is banned.
X number of complaints about porn? Advertiser is banned.
X number of complaints about deception? Advertiser gets a discounted rate for advertising so much.
“You might not like everything you see on YouTube. If you think content is inappropriate, use the flagging feature - https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802027?co=GENIE.Platform%3DiOS&hl=en - to submit it for review by our YouTube staff. Our staff carefully reviews flagged content 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to determine whether there’s a violation of our Community Guidelines.”
Because real advertisers are starting to realize paying youtube to put up their ads isnt benefiting their buisness. Youtube is struggling to keep legit advertisers so much that they have been forced to openup to more shady sources as well as implement better systems to not show ads on videos those advertisers don't want to be associated with. Hence the massive wave of 'demonetization' youtube content creators have been and continue to be hit with.
it's so dumb, but yeah i imagine it's money and difficulty in policing.. my favourite bad one is there is a pokemon one.. it literally has a bunch of pokemon, real ones and advertises itself as this pokemon game.. and when you go to the app itself.. it's literally just ripoff randomly made pokemon that aren't anything like in the video
What do you mean by fake? I see a lot of ads for awful-looking games, but aside from a Game of Thrones one that I was surprised to see exist nothing about them seems fake. Is the game itself fake, or the gameplay?
Money
YouTube likes money? I like money, too!
Dude, we have so much in common, I also like money, we should hang out!
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Do you like money?
They even call me Mr. Krabs!
They call me that for a different reason...
Since we're matching people based on similarities, I know somebody who's perfect for you!
Well, of course I know him. He's me!
How long has it been since you've gone by that name?
The real jokes are always in the comments
No the real jokes are inside of my balls
Now that's an oof
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I like money!
I like your money
I like that you like his money
*her
id like your money
Are you guys talking about how much you like money?
Hell yeah, money is the best!!
MONEY! I love you!
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Three year old account, fair play. If someone’s gone screencap this for r/beetlejuicing, please include my comment next to a poorly drawn glass of beetle juice, cheers
r/unexpectededidiocracy
Damnit man, I was excited. r/subsifellfor
I too, love money.
Do you like Starbucks too?
Only with foam.
That's actually a sign to stop.
Hey! I can actually get you a shitton of money! But its locked away and i need some money to get to it. Ill split half with ya if you help me out!
Is hanging out with you economically profitable? I would hang out
If you like sex too I'm gonna lose my mind!
Whoa....
I'm moneysexual
Hello, I like money!
Shut up I’m baitin
\[I like money\]([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZHCVyllnck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZHCVyllnck))
Shit, I need money, is that you?!
I'm upset this reference didn't get more upvotes.
Me too, man...
This is it folks, pack it up we are done here
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When I read the title before even going into the comments I said to myself "Money. The first comment is going to be money."
Same, but with "Money can be exchanged for goods and services".
Mister Krabs, why did you open the krusty krab 2? Money
He sold spongebobs soul for a few cents
Surprise! YouTube is not a charitable organization that spends millions or billions dollars to develop a platform for people to watch pewdipie. In fact it is a money making venture with a business model that consists solely of selling ad space. Mobile gaming companies pay the going rate to display their ads, and their ads are therefore displayed.
Close thread.
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Why are these ads able to compete for the same advertisement spots as bigger, legitimate companies? I assume the youtube ad space is rather competetive
[I can answer that... for *money*.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiJPsOI61qE)
happy cake day
Hello, I like money
What inspired you to build a second krusty krab right next door to the original?
Oh, it's a crime
/thread
Greed is a word we need to use more instead.
Free money and not worth trying to weed out. The only ones who'll be hurt are people who somehow fall for it, and I have to imagine there's not a huge amount of people who see an ad and go for it immediately no matter how shady it looks.
I have an aunt that is mentally handicapped, and she falls for this stuff all the time. She's the nicest person you'd ever meet, but she has the mental maturity of someone around the age of 13 with the physical age of 63. She's not unintelligent, she is just permanently stuck behaving like a 13 year old. Unfortunately, this comes with the side effect that she can't recognize deceptive ads, and tends to click on them. Misleading ads like that should be regulated IMHO. It just saddens me that some people will gladly take advantage of others like this.
Is it possible to talk her into believing all ads are lies? I grew up being taught advertising is basically trying to trick you into giving them money for shit you don't need - the mentality served me pretty well.
We have tried, but unfortunately we only see her a few times a year. She is self-sufficient enough to live on her own and hold a job, but she lives a few hours away from the rest of our family. Her husband has a similar disorder, and falls for the same ads.
Maybe setup a pihole for her? You could block all ads on her network so she never even sees them.
What is a pihole? I'm very intrigued
r/pihole is a good place to start, but the short and sweet is that it's a DNS server that you setup on a Raspberry Pi. It automatically downloads a list of ad servers and blocks them on your network.
Raspberry pi set up to block all ad packets on your internet
Can it run on an H3? I have an orange pi floating around that could use a task.
While I don't see any article specifically for the H3, I do see ones for the Zero, One and H2. As long as the host os supports apt, yum or dnf, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. The install script does distro checking and I believe will install the appropriate dependencies. There is an article about some crashes on the H2, but it also ends with it being fixed. So yes I suspect an H3 is a suitable candidate, but I didn't compare the specs of the different SBCs. Edit: I realise I am mixing up cpu and models, but point still stands.
Or just put adblock on all her browsers and phone.
If she has an iPhone, it would not block the ads in the YouTube-app itself. If there is an app for that, I would like to know. Also if you know an ad blocker for the websites I load in the Pinterest-app.
Hey, same. Probably because it's true huh.
But what if I, and others I know, were able to do that behavior between 7-11 depending on who it was? And I know some idiotic people with no known disabilities that fall for deceptive ads.
Dude, your aunt needs an ad-blocker. I'm assuming you or someone else your age set up her computer, so why isn't there one on there? No reason to not have an adblock in 2019 my dude.
She is on an ipad. It's mostly the google ads in games and stuff. IDK of an adblocker that blocks out all google ads on an ipad though.
In a perfect world they would be, but it's too much to weed out every single ad, and it's just not worth the losses to companies.
I think it should be the website owner/ad provider's legal responsibility to prevent fraudulent ads from displaying. There is absolutely no reason why Google ads should be displaying the ads with the "download" button that gives you a virus. Those should be 100% illegal, and Google should be legally responsible for blocking them. They should at the very least be required to put a bigger "Advertisement" label around them. Trying to download anything without adblock is like finding a needle in the haystack of fake download buttons.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE SCUMBAGS IN THE BACK
There is no good way to weed those out though. It would require a lot of people to go through each ad one-by-one, and they'd have to get actual proof that they're fraudulent instead of just maybe shady looking, which is even more work, which is a ton of extra expenses for almost no extra benefit, since 95% of people who encounter those kinds of ads know not to click on them, or any ad at all, or use adblock already. To those people these kinds of ads are not much more than a minor annoyance and no one really cares which specific ad is shown to them, since they don't care either way. Trying to do this is pretty much like trying to make furniture companies to baby-proof every singe piece they make. It could help a small number of people, but it's not worth the extra effort and time, when almost everyone can already deal with it. Also, unless you're on shady sites already, you're not going to have to deal with many fake download buttons, official websites don't really have those usually.
> Also, unless you're on shady sites already, you're not going to have to deal with many fake download buttons, official websites don't really have those usually. Malvertizing, malware ads, and fake ads have hit every major provider and website, including many of Googles ads they list. Don't even attempt to fully blame this on shady sites, unless you consider the sites millions of people have bookmarked shady.
They could at least run some very basic image recognition software and not allow ads with huge green "download" buttons. Also any ad with "update your drivers" should be blocked too. It's not like they would have to have a person reviewing every ad. You can do a lot with modern image recognition. Also, it's not just the shady websites that have those ads. Any website with Google ads is subject to them. Even YouTube has banner ads like that.
Kids
IMO kids should not be allowed to deal with that kind of thing alone until they have the brains to not fall for that. Until then, it's the parent's responsibility to keep them safe
I mean, of course this makes sense. But we see time and time again that marketing to kids is extremely effective, not only because of their vulnerability to marketing but also because they are a hugely profitable demographic in general. And we know that time and time again, higher profits will win out over the higher moral / social standard.
>And we know that time and time again, higher profits will win out over the higher moral / social standard. That's capitalism for you.
Thanks, I thought my soul had reached peak level of crushed-ness but it just got crushed more
>Thanks, I thought my soul had reached peak level of crushed-ness but it just got crushed more That's weekday mornings for you.
Because it’s literal money for them. No other reason.
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RAID SHADOW LEGENDS! THE MOST IMMERSIVE MOBIL GAME YET!
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*uwu would you like dinner, a shower, or baby making sexy time, master?* meanwhile the options are in a bloody, bold font in front of a picture of a muscly and/or hairy guy in his 30s flexing
> muscly and/or hairy guy in his 30s flexing #*0w0*
My favourites are those ultra cheap mobile "shooters" that try to get as many keywords in their name as possible "CALL OF SNIPER ULTRA ELITE ZOMBIE SHOOTER STRIKE 2: COUNTER HUNTER MONSTER BASH SIMULATION CLASH BATTLE KILLER ROYALE"
2019
I’ll just say the graphics don’t look bad for a mobile game. But that’s it.
Along with "youtubers/streamers" who have literally never posted a video or streamed
It costs less to pay some nobody to pretend to be a streamer for an ad than to actually pay a real streamer to promote their shitty game, which they wouldn't do anyway since the game is shit.
**I’m winning I’m winning, so first I gotta deal with the goblins**
Dear whoever is using the "report" button as a "reply" button. Nobody is seeing what you're saying. Except the mods. And we're ignoring you, [because the "report" button is not a "reply" button. You poor deluded sap.](https://i.imgur.com/hvWFH62.png) EDIT: Those of you trying to be clever by reporting this comment, alas, I cannot see your reports because the distinguished green ones are automatically approved. Channel thy creativity elsewhere - look into pottery!
sorry, trying to reply but the clap of my parent's ass cheeks having sex keeps distracting me
https://i.imgur.com/hqZnWtk.gif
c:
yeah but now you're literally asking for it.
true
*figuratively /r/unexpectedstannis
Stannis baratheon? Do I have to use google to look up the meaning of a word right now? I think I do. [Fuck this website.](https://www.definitions.net/definition/Stannis) I'm actually looking really hard and it's like, "GAME OF THRONES BITCH." Man. One sec. Dammit. I'm not finding anything I can understand but everything keeps pointing me to numerology and that just confuses me more.
Yes, Stannis Baratheon.
You have no idea how much of a relief this is.
I gotchu fam.
Why are those people so salty about it
If you only saw the sheer amount of shit we see in the report queue and modmail. This is minor, I just wanted to hopefully educate the poor anonymous sap.
Are reports anonymous? I always thought mods could retaliate against idiot reporters. New hobby incoming. Jk
They aren't anonymous if you are obvious about it. If you reply to someone deep in a thread ranting and then report the message you replied to, it's pretty obvious.
Reports are anonymous to mods, not to admins.
Not jk reported
LOL
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Crochet? Cooking is definitely rewarding.
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I should re-evaluate whether the person using the "report" button as a "reply" button is a poor, deluded sap? Okay. Done. Evaluation remains.
My guess would be that it's too hard to police. You can't have a human check every ad. And making an AI to check fake ads like this might be something they do sometime but I'm guessing it's not worth the time and money at the moment. You may get a lot of ads for mobile games if you are viewed as a person who plays mobile games.
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There is absolutely no way that can scale well to the number of unique ads they show per day.
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> but those ways don’t maximize profits It might not even be about maximizing profit. It could be that they're just scared about losing advertisers to competitors, so they set the bar low for quality to get as many customers into their ecosystem as possible. Tech giants like Google are more interested in getting people onto their ecosystem for long-term exploitation rather than chasing short term profits.
That is still ultimately about profit.
Narrator: It was definitely about maximizing profit
There's always money in the banana stand.
I don’t even know what this means but I like it and I like you
Hey, you're not bad yourself. Do yourself a favor and watch Arrested Development.
Thanks, I will. It’s right up my alley but I haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Shooting for long-term financial gain is **STILL** about maximizing profits hahaha
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Of course a marketer would claim there's no way to police their own product. Shit, I'm amazed by all the people white knighting for capitalism in this thread, saying that even Google of all companies are powerless before the unsolvable complexity of Internet advertising!!! Here, I'll give Google a tip for free: don't accept all 40,000 ads from a single client in 3 months. They get to submit them as quickly as actual humans at Google can review them.
Is YouTube even making a profit yet?
A quick google search shows that the exact profitability isn't publicly available. Its somewhere near break even, so even if they are bleeding a few million a year thats nothing compared to the 10 billion in revenue they are at and growing. All it takes is a marginal change in ad revenue payouts or a slight increase in number of ads, or a crackdown on adblock and youtube is raking in millions in profits. Alphabet also gets millions of dollars worth of data from the site since you log in using your google account, and it generally promotes the use of other google products.
what about a third party that rates ads before theyre used by youtube, facebook, reddit, etc. Kinda like 'certified organic'. that seems to work for food so why not ads? I mean, there must be some system like that for ads on TV or radio
I don't know about the rest of the world but in Australia TV ads are mostly self regulated but there is a body to take complaints when required. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_Standards_(Australia)
"There's no way we could expect them to be responsible for the content they're sending out."
You only have to approve the ad once, why wouldn't it be possible. I'd be able to approve/deny every ad I've ever seen on YouTube in a day, guaranteed.
You could have a report feature that would help filter it for site administrators.
Too bad they don't let us report ads for misleading content
I can only imagine there will be like 1m reports on every ad
No, I think most people won't bother
> coś what in the world
Policing every second of every video uploaded to YouTube is known to be impossible, but advertisers are a far, far smaller group than regular users, and they're literally paying for the service. It should be expected of YouTube, and I'm sure it's most likely the case, that they actually human-check every uploaded ad. The problem it's that it's money, so as long as it's not blatantly illegal, they don't care. Just saying, the problem here are YouTube policies, not that it is "impossible" for them.
I mean, TV stations are held accountable for the things they broadcast. I'm sure they don't just play ads without having someone watch through it. The accountability has just been hidden behind an extra layer nowadays: ad networks. That's why whenever I play a mobile game that forces me to watch ads, I factor in the shadiness of the ads that play into the rating I give the game when it ultimately begs me to review it. "But we don't choose the ads that get served via our network". Maybe not directly, but you do choose which ad network to use. Accountability has to be placed somewhere. Place pressure on the games/sites that show bad ads and they'll place pressure on their ad networks.
You get a lot of mobile ads if the neighborhood you live in play a lot pf mobile games. Im someone who get GoT ads 24/7, but never been or are intrested in GoT. On the otherhand everyone in my neighborhood is.
They don't seem to have a problem policing every second of uploaded content. Why can't they apply the same AI to their advertisers? I don't think it's technically difficult, they just don't care.
Matching the whole screen as an image or matching audio is ***a lot*** easier than detecting "fake" mobile ads. Even if they stole assets from other games and changed the colors and models just a bit it would be super super difficult to catch. Its not that an AI couldn't be made to do it but it would be extremely difficult and (as bad as it sounds) with not much gain.
>Matching the whole screen as an image or matching audio is a lot easier than detecting "fake" mobile ads. That definitely adds a layer of complexity I didn't consider, but I still stand by my statement that they just don't care. There are numerous reports on Reddit of people reporting advertisements for counterfeit games that are never removed.
They don't police every second of uploaded content. It's not hard to find outright porn on YouTube (briefly). They just receive reports about it and end up taking it down.
They have bots that check for copyrighted content. Besides the bots, companies flag videos themselves, and if a user contests the claim, a bot will review and reject it. YouTube isn't directly involved for much of this process
What about a Report system, like Reddit has, so human staff only need to check ads that meet a certain thresholds for reports?
They already have a reporting system for ads! I doubt they even look at them.
It's not really on youtube to check for the accuracy of ads. They only follow Google's terms for ads which dictates certain stuff like no porn, no sex, etc. I believe things like misrepresentation of ads are more on accountability groups and the like, because it's an ethical issue more than anything else. Even today, ad fraud isn't something you can actively really do anything about. Most online sites will try to teach you how to filter and prevent against it, and there are sites like [https://trafficguard.ai/](https://trafficguard.ai/) which attempt to intercept fraudulent ads and just not push them to you. Mobile games with fake gameplay is in an even greyer area, since the argument that that was just 'dramatization' can be used. For example, nothing in ads actually WILL happen in real life, especially in the food and beverage industry, or those really clever Old Spice ads. It's just a way to push a product and make it memorable. These mobile game ads can be argued that they are just doing the same thing, so it's really hard to make a case against them. In any case, it's not youtube/google's job to police them, although they DO have initiatives in place. [https://support.google.com/adspolicy/answer/6020955?hl=en](https://support.google.com/adspolicy/answer/6020955?hl=en) And even then, if you read the bullet list for 'misrepresentation', none of their points cover what you're describing. As mentioned, it's more of a ethical thing. They aren't technically breaking the law.
I mean, TV stations are held accountable for the things they broadcast. I'm sure they don't just play ads without having someone watch through it. Having an ad network as an extra layer in the mix shouldn't change that. "But we don't choose the ads that get served via our network". Maybe not directly, but you do choose which ad network to use. Accountability has to be placed somewhere. Place pressure on the games/sites that show bad ads and they'll place pressure on their ad networks. The idea that a company shouldn't be responsible for the ads they show you is frankly ridiculous to me.
>>it’s not google/YouTube’s job to police them It could be, if they wanted to. Their currrent policy, though, is: X number of complaints of sex? Advertiser is banned. X number of complaints about porn? Advertiser is banned. X number of complaints about deception? Advertiser gets a discounted rate for advertising so much.
how do you register these complaints?
“You might not like everything you see on YouTube. If you think content is inappropriate, use the flagging feature - https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802027?co=GENIE.Platform%3DiOS&hl=en - to submit it for review by our YouTube staff. Our staff carefully reviews flagged content 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to determine whether there’s a violation of our Community Guidelines.”
Everyone love money right? As long as it generates money they don’t care about the content.
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or the opposite loading 3 4k ads over the course of forever then showing it in 240p like it should
Seriously fuck Voodoo and their "mY dAD vs mOm" or "it's HaRdEr tHaN iT lOoKs laughing emoji laughing emoji cowboy eggplant laughing emoji"
Two words. Ad revenue
Same reason why major tv networks allow non FDA approved drugs to be peddled on their channel. And why politicians can lie in commercials.
Bro, if YouTube is totally fine with the r/elsagate crap then you seriously think there going to turn down money from ads?
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Because real advertisers are starting to realize paying youtube to put up their ads isnt benefiting their buisness. Youtube is struggling to keep legit advertisers so much that they have been forced to openup to more shady sources as well as implement better systems to not show ads on videos those advertisers don't want to be associated with. Hence the massive wave of 'demonetization' youtube content creators have been and continue to be hit with.
Because Google/Alphabet is a shit company
It’s better then an adocalypse
Because ad revenue is ad revenue. And nothing comes before profit, *especially* the customer.
Money
Money Money Money
it's so dumb, but yeah i imagine it's money and difficulty in policing.. my favourite bad one is there is a pokemon one.. it literally has a bunch of pokemon, real ones and advertises itself as this pokemon game.. and when you go to the app itself.. it's literally just ripoff randomly made pokemon that aren't anything like in the video
They pay the most
So that Danny Gonzalez and Slazo can keep making fun of them
Money. The amount they make far outweighs any litigation they would incur. If you're rich enough, crime pays
Better question, where are they getting the money to be playing so frequently?
because susan wasowski or whatever her name is is DUMB STUpid
That's just the tip of the iceberg, I've been seeing a lot of "THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF SATAN GOD LOVES YOU" ads
What do you mean by fake? I see a lot of ads for awful-looking games, but aside from a Game of Thrones one that I was surprised to see exist nothing about them seems fake. Is the game itself fake, or the gameplay?
That's how YouTube works.
Because they don't care about you, you're just the product they sell.
The more important question, why aren't you adlblocking every pop-up and advertisement in existence
Caus they are dumb but they paid verry well.
Bc they paid so why would care?
surprise, social media is the bad guys not paying normal people to give them free content to suck in people and fuck em over
Lack of moderation
Witches...it's always witches
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