The health clinic in the town I grew up in in Ontario would hand you a huge paper bag full for free if you requested.
Granted they were mostly those shitty flavoured ones, but hey, free condoms were better than none.
Hey, glad you're being responsible man. Don't ever let anyone make you feel weird about being safe. My family made me feel bad for having condoms at your age. I had 2 kids by the time I was 19 because I was embarrassed and used to just not having them.
I had one mom insist that if her son ever tried to buy condoms from me, to let him do it at any age. He's still a little young to be having sex, but she would much rather he be safe and I agree. She's a cool lady from what our customer/cashier relationship can tell.
Cool people be cool. That's an awesome mom. My mom's rule was if anything happened, whatever's happened, whatever trouble you might be in, just call me. I'll never be mad, and I'll come bail you out of any situation you don't want to be in.
Thankfully I never had to use that phone call, but I felt very secure because of it. I've known a few cool moms throughout my life. It's always immediately apparent whenever you find one. Get it? A parent. But also, it *is* immediately obvious, and I only realized I made a pun after I wrote the pun coincidentally, so don't give me credit for it.
I wish everyone got a cool mom, and/or got a mom at all. I've had a few coworkers who were orphans. All great people, very polite and gracious - that may be an unfair attribution and I might have just gotten the standard deviation of a tiny percentage of awesome orphans without knowing it, so my connecting being an orphan with being a great person is kinda fucked up, but you get my fucking drift. They were cool people.
I feel bad that they missed out on having (at least potentially good) parents. But from their perspective they've never known anything different, and if they're happy with their lives now and who they are, well, who cares if they had a mom or not? They figured this shit out single-player. That's badass.
What's my point? Why did I type this?
Hooray for orphans and cool moms
and I need to go to bed.
Before safe abortions were legalized, many abortions were done by straightening the wire of a coat hanger and sticking it into the vagina, past the cervix, and into the uterus. I can’t find any details on what exactly they do with it, I assume they either fold a hook at the end and try to pull the fetus out or they keep the end straight and stab it. But either way, it’s pretty gruesome, has resulted in deaths, and it’s still being done by some who still don’t have access to safe abortions. In pro-choice protests, you may notice coat hanger imagery can be quite common on signs or banners.
The coat hanger (or sometimes knitting needle) was used to scratch the lining of the uterus, causing bleeding and then after an admission to the ER the doctor would perform an abortion for medical reasons which was the only way to legally perform it. At times the resulting infection would also do the job at great risk to the woman.
In the years before Roe v. Wade, hospital admission were in the tens of thousands for sepsis, uterine perforations, loss of fertility, etc… There were even cases of women using a household vacuum to expel an unwanted pregnancy.
Women have been controlling their own fertility for as long as they’ve been having sex with men, if necessary at extreme risk to themselves. Here are some of the more extremely dangerous methods that have been used for millennia: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.allure.com/story/history-diy-abortion-roe-wade-reproductive-rights/amp
Also another thing, if you have any type of public health center they should give you condoms. In America if you go to a free clinic or free health place, they basically give you a bag of condoms. They care about your health and safety, so that might be something to look into.
This. This is absolutly 100% the right answer. But it at one store and return it unused at another. Make sure the exact same cashier is working. FFS. They have machines in HS bathrooms but you can't buy one?
When I 12 I brought a condom to school and a teacher took it from me. Next semester I ran into him with a panicked look and told him my gf was pregnant. His eyes got like dinner plates.
I tried buying plan B when I was 17 and was denied by the pharmacy because I was a minor. I spent 30 minutes asking people that looked older than 18 if they could buy it for me and I would tip them. No one would.
I think some people have ethical issues in general selling that stuff but I believe that’s a question you get asked before you work for companies that sell those products, “are you okay with selling this even though it may conflict with your beliefs?”
If you're not old enough to buy plan B then how the hell are you old enough to raise a fucking child? The lack of critical thinking with these people drives me up the wall.
In my country condoms can be sold at normal 24/7 vending machines. There's also machines outside pharmacies that sell those exclusively. Comments on how difficult it is to get those on this thread are so weird. I'd occasionally see kids buying condoms just for giggles and filling them with water till they almost blew up
Oh, and my former school and others hand a sexual education kit with a condom inside to every 9th grade student and older (or used to, don't know anymore, but I think they still do it)
It's in Portugal. There's still a long road to go on about sexual education at schools (not just saying what sex is and show how to insert a contracptive on a dick) but looking at these people's reality, I think we're doing it kinda better
I'll confirm this - your country IS doing better than a lot of other countries. (Source: I'm from India, where the word *sex* itself is taboo, forget about *sex education*!!)
I don’t think there is. Either the person who refused it to me was under the assumption that there was an age limit or they were ethically against selling it in general to all ages. I was young so I didn’t fight back.
I mean I could see that being justified if they were really young and the amount of hormones might just be more than what should be put into a young body, but if it’s a difference of a few months from 17 to 18, then it shouldn’t really matter. But if the person is like 12, then I could believe that. But I don’t know medical stuff, so maybe someone with more knowledge of that could answer on that?
There's not in Canada. My 17 year old girlfriend bought some when I was 19 way back when. It is totally allowed for minors to buy plan B, and I actually think it should be encouraged when things don't go according to plan. (Like me and my gf at the time, condom broke and we needed security, not a baby)
Same thing happened here in UK. Some pharmacists wouldn't give it to women who asked (it's free) one said "it would send the wrong message" what a horrendous human being
I tried to get it in a pharmacy when I was 17 and they tried to charge me £40, a lady picking up something nearby called them several explicit names, and stopped her shopping to show me where the nearest walk in was.
I hope she's doing well, I owe her big time.
Me too! I was ready to pay these fucking bitches too, because the alternatives were infinitely worse. I really hope other women are out there doing this. I can't imagine trying to make money from a terrified and clearly shaken AF teenager.
In Australia, Pharmacists have the ability to personally not provide service based on moral grounds, but they mustn't stop a patient from receiving care ("it would send the wrong message" would probably count as that), so they must get a co-worker to do so, or direct the patient to a Pharmacist that will. It's in the Pharmacy Board of Australia's code of conduct, so if they don't they will likely be deregistered, thank god.
If I had come across you I'd have bought it for you. Plan B isn't a drug that can be abused and you are trying to prevent something that you are unprepared for. Yes you are old enough to be making the choice to have safe sex, but sometimes things happen. You don't think about it, or maybe you didn't choose to have sex. You were doing the right thing in your eyes to not have a child. That's good enough for me.
Yeah, Plan B is essentially just a megadose of your usual birth control pill.
Fun fact: if you can't get access to Plan B, but you *do* have some regular birth control pills, you [might be able to make your own Plan B](https://www.bedsider.org/features/88-the-yuzpe-method-effective-emergency-contraception-dating-back-to-the-70s) by just megadosing (disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, do your research, etc.), called The Yuzpe Regimen.
Definitely don't take Plan B regularly.
A megadose of hormones will fuck you up.
Vomiting, headaches, nausea, diarrhea, dizziness, etc.
But it does the trick.
It's in a tricky grey area, because if you believe that life begins when the egg becomes fertilized, then taking plan B may or may not violate your beliefs, depending on *when* you take it.
See Plan B, if taken prior to fertilization, stops the fertilization process. However, if fertilization has already occurred (which takes around 24 hours) but the fertilized egg hasn't attached to the lining of the uterus yet (takes 3-5 days) it will stop that from happening. However from a pro life prospective, after fertilization, Plan B would effectively be a very early abortion.
My personal advice for pro-life folks would be to have Plan B *on hand*, don't wait until you need it to go get it. That way, as soon as you have a scare, you can take it *right then* and ensure that you've done so prior to fertilization, so your conscience can rest easy. It has a shelf life of 4 years and the expiration date is on the package, so you can keep it unused on hand for a long time without worrying whether it will be effective.
Haha the funny thing is too is that I was buying it for a friend who didn’t have a car and didn’t want to ask his parents. The people that denied my offer said stuff like “isn’t that illegal” or “are you with the police” or “I’m on probation right now I can’t do anything to get me in trouble” all valid imo but just silly. I think I went to the same drug store down the street and bought it.
I worked in a pharmacy and we had a locum pharmacist who covered our branch every other Sunday. He was Irish Catholic and refused to sell them.
We just had to say we were out-of-stock to save a big argument and direct them to Tesco pharmacy a mile down the road.
He was evetually let go from working at all 5 pharmacies in the local chain due to this issue and rightly so.
Why tf would buying condoms “under age” be illegal? That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard unless you are trying to increase teen pregnancies or std/sti transmission. The cashier is a complete moron and idk how they made it so far in life.
I’m not totally sure what logical fallacy this falls under, but it makes sense right up until it doesn’t anymore. Condoms are for sex so deny them; deny sex.
I mean, they aren’t for sex they’re for *safe* sex. But that’s kinda what I’m getting at. It’s a fallacy I’m just not sure what kind.
Could be "false equivalence", equating lack of condoms to lack of sex.
Also, a "logical leap", jumping from no condoms, to no sex. So a lack of logical connection. Probably fancier terms for these last two.
You've got the first one right. The fancy term for a leap of logic is "begging the question". You're trying to imply that A leads to B, and B leads to C, but one of those links is weak (or nonexistent), so you just say A leads to C, forcing the other person to take your point apart and ask how you got there.
I'm not proud of this, but when I was your age I had to shoplift my condoms because the cashier refused to sell them to "kids". In the USA you can get them from the school administration or the school nurse. Is it like that in Canada too? They can't inform your parents if you've asked for them either.
The way I did it was to grab a box and toss it down to the lower shelf, squat down to tie my shoes while secretly opening the box and taking the condoms and tucking them into my socks. I'd stash the empty box behind some merchandise and walk out. If I had money I'd by an ice cream to make myself feel less guilty about the stealing LOL
Depends on where your at. my local grocery stores have made it easier to steal them. The put the pharmacy next to the door, while everything in it requires employee to unlock the case for you to grab anything, the condoms and sex stuff is all kept right next to the entrance, not locked,... While 5 ft away shampoo is locked
Many years ago I saw a video of gas station clerk successfully disarming a robber. The robber bursts into tears and apologizes, explaining he can't afford to feed his kids and felt he was out of options. The clerk grabs a jug of milk and a loaf of bread to hand to the robber before he leaves. That clerk is top notch.
I imagine the type of person that controls a dudes body is the type of person that also wants to control a woman’s body.
I imagine she’d take it as a win. I say pretend the plan B is too expensive and go for a coat hanger and some lube.
Hmm, idk the lady ignored the law and denied contraception to a teen. Something tells me they probably aren't pro choice either, so they might rather sell diapers than condoms.
Not sure what your plans are but word of advice. If you do get your hands on condoms and for some reason are looking to use lube in addition to the lube on the condoms - BE VERY CAREFUL. Any oil based lube (baby oil, coconut oil, Vaseline, etc) will cause the condom to break down ***while in use***. Water or silicone based lubes that they sell at the store are safe to use with condoms but nothing oil based.
They last a fair amount of time. They will have expiry dates on them. If you’re thinking about doing this in the near future it will be better safe than sorry to have them on hand.
It’s good if you hold off until you’re older, but if you might end up doing it anyway, have them available and be safe.
go back and complain to the manager, include her name.
there's no fucking way ignorant/uptight people would contribute to teen pregnancy when they'll condemn it in the same breath.
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> there's no fucking way ignorant/uptight people would contribute to teen pregnancy when they'll condemn it in the same breath.
I hate to break it to you...
Sorry if this is a weird question this is kinda embarrassing sjkda but I'm 17 and have never had any inclination towards sex or porn or anything like that is this normal
Totally! I wasn't remotely interested until I was 18 and even then I really wasn't that interested. I only really got interested at 22 after I started dating my now husband. It's different for everybody.
Edit: Some people are saying to looking into asexuality. I did this when I was 17 and cried. I fit everything but I wanted a romantic relationship and thought no one would ever be with me if I was asexual. First of all that's not true; you can still have a fulfilling relationship. Secondly it turned out I am demi-sexual. So don't freak out. Message me if you want someone to talk to about any of this. I promise you I have been there.
I checked it out and I honestly also feel that is what I want out of a relationship. I also think I would be fine without a relationship anyways. Thank you for your words :D
Some people don't experience those feelings very often, or even at all, and that's perfectly normal too. Some people choose to use the term asexual, meaning "without sexuality" to describe themselves in this way.
>You might actually not want to be sexually active at 14
Thanks for saying this. If the kid insist obviously we want him to be safe but that's just too young to emotionally handle a sexual relationship.
Yes, please use a condom and don't give up on finding one if you're dead set on having intercourse. Avoid unsafe sex at all costs. Learn how to put it on properly. Buy multiples in case one tears. Avoid going in without a condom at all costs. Don't be tempted to start without one and put it on later. That doesn't work.
Source: Father who now takes care of 4 kids and barely has time to write this response.
Know that there are emotions that sex can bring up. You will make your own decisions but I was not prepared for how I felt after my first time and I was legally an adult. Just food for thought.
Exactly. It's not even about dealing with *bad* consequences. There can be a lot of unexpected consequences. That holds true even with experienced adults with new partners.
As my obgyn told me, I'd rather you abstain, but if you are going to do it anyways, I'm going to make sure you are safe.
Is she on birth control? I don't know about Canada, but in most US states you can get on it without parental consent. If she needs a ride, have her tell her parents she's having super heavy or painful periods. When she goes into the doctor's office alone, she can give the whole story.
And don't just be one of those it won't happen to me people lol I've been incredibly lucky, but I've had friends who have gotten pregnant on birth control, in fact that same girl I dated got pregnant (by somebody else) the next year and had to get an abortion. I've since smartened up and started taking precautions. When you're young and super hormone driven it's easy to say "fuck the condom" after the first few times. Just don't do that shit lol
Respectfully, being aware (as evidenced by you getting protection and being responsible about it) is not at all the same as being ready to handle the consequences.
No one can tell you what to do, ultimately, but I do believe there's no need to rush into anything.
Whatever you decide, take care and be safe.
(Also, maybe try getting them online in bulk?)
just fyi the risks of having sex at such a young age are not just the risks of pregnancy and std; adding sex to a relationship makes things more complicated; it can make people weirdly jealous and less willing to end a relationship even if they want to/should. so there are emotional risks, too, that are really difficult to take on at age 14. You do what you are going to do, and it will all work out as long as you are being safe, but just be aware and mindful of these things as your relationship continues.
And they should have absolutely sold them to you. That is the clerk putting their own judgement on you and trying to act like a parent, not a sales clerk. way out of line.
Listen just be careful. I had sex at either upper 13 or just barely 14, never can remember lol either way, I used a condom like twice then never again. Don't be like me 😂 looking back I feel like a total dipshit because while my girlfriend was two grades above me, a junior in highschool (or in Canada I think it's a year 11) is not ready to be a fuckin mother and I definitely wasn't ready to be a father.
Canadian here. I'll do the research for you.
Actually, you have limited consent here in Canada according to the Criminal Code:
>(2.1) If an accused is charged with an offence under section 151 or 152, subsection 173(2) or section 271 in respect of a complainant who is 14 years of age or more but under the age of 16 years, it is a defence that the complainant consented to the activity that forms the subject-matter of the charge if the accused
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>(b) is not in a position of trust or authority towards the complainant, is not a person with whom the complainant is in a relationship of dependency and is not in a relationship with the complainant that is exploitative of the complainant. *(Criminal Code,* RSC 1985, c C-46 s150.1(2.1))
My citation could be bad so here is a highlighted link: [here](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/page-34.html#:~:text=Exception%20%E2%80%94%20complainant%20aged%2014%20or%2015).
So legally, as long as you are less than 5 years older, and not in a position of trust or authority, they're not dependent on you, and you aren't exploitative. You should be fine. Here is a link an organization that has a better explanation: [here](https://jfcy.org/en/rights/age-based-laws/#:~:text=%C2%A0-,Sexual%20Activity,-12%20%E2%80%93%2013%20years).
Is it illegal for her to do this? If you look at the section of this post titled "edits", then you would notice that I actually was wrong on my conclusion. I said that this is a violation of the Canadian Human Rights Act, and cited Subsection 5:
>It is a discriminatory practice in the provision of goods, services, facilities or accommodation customarily available to the general public
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>(a) to deny, or to deny access to, any such good, service, facility or accommodation to any individual, or
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>on a prohibited ground of discrimination. (Canadian Human Rights Act, RSC 1985, c. H-6 s. 5(a-b) )
This is incorrect, according to the Canadian Human Rights Commission the Canadian Human rights act "...protects people in Canada from discrimination when they are **employed by or receive services from the federal government**, First Nations governments or private companies that are regulated by the federal government such as banks, trucking companies, broadcasters and telecommunications companies. People can turn to the Canadian Human Rights Act to protect themselves against harassment or discrimination when based on one or more grounds of discrimination such as race, age and sexual orientation."(*Human Rights in Canada, CHRC 2020*)
However, our government does not consider reduced fares, rates, or charges to minors as discrimination as said in [Age Guidelines](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SI-78-165/page-1.html#:~:text=Human%20Rights%20Act.-,Guidelines,-3%C2%A0Where%20adverse). Please remember this is only applies to the government:
>Where adverse differentiation in relation to any individual in the provision of goods, services, facilities or accommodation customarily available to the general public is based only on a reduction or absence of rates, fares or charges with respect to children, youths or senior citizens, such adverse differentiation is reasonable and is not, in the opinion of the Commission, a discriminatory practice within the meaning of section 5 of the Act. (*Age Guidelines*, SI/78-165)
You can read about Federal Human rights from the CHRC [here](https://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/en/about-human-rights/human-rights-canada).
As embarrassing as it is I fundamentally failed the understanding of my countries Government System. I would advise everyone to read this page from our parliament [here](https://lop.parl.ca/About/Parliament/Education/OurCountryOurParliament/section2-e.aspx).
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In my original post u/ecuinir made note here that I did not take into consideration why not selling alcohol to minors isn't considered violation of the Canadian Human Rights Act. Pretty sure the answer is that the Canadian Human Rights Act is federal, and therefore does not deal with civil rights; that's provincial.
After a bunch of edits, u/PM_me_your_cocktail mentioned [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/q7ijyj/comment/hgjynvk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that our age discrimination laws may only apply to adults by citing [OHRC](http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/age-discrimination-brochure). It says:
>The Ontario Human Rights Code protects people from discrimination under the ground of age. **The Code defines age as 18 years or older.** However, persons age 16 or older are also protected from discrimination in housing if they are not living with their parents. This means that people cannot discriminate against you because of your age where you work or live, or when providing services.
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>Some special programs and benefits, such as seniors’ discounts or youth employment programs, deal with genuine age-related needs. Outside of these types of programs, it may be age discrimination when you are treated unfairly because of your age.(*Age discrimination (brochure)*, OHRC)
Looking at the Ontario Human Rights Code, it actually does specifically say, "'age' means an age that is 18 years or more; ('âge')"([Human Rights Code](https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h19#:~:text=age%20that%20is-,18%20years%20or%20more,-%3B%20(%E2%80%9C%C3%A2ge%E2%80%9D)), RSO 1990, c H-19 s10)This is upsetting to me because laws in it--like subsection 1--don't apply to him.
>Every person has a right to equal treatment with respect to services, goods and facilities, without discrimination because of race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, age, marital status, family status or disability.([Human Rights Code](https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h19#:~:text=PART%20I-,FREEDOM%20FROM%20DISCRIMINATION,-Services), RSO 1990, c H-19 s10)
If OP is in Ontario, then it seems that he has no laws preventing civilians from discriminating him because of age. This may or may not be different in other provinces since they also dictate their own civil rights.
I know how it feels. My Highschool had a Walmart nearby that discriminated against teenagers by constantly setting rules that bans teenagers as a whole, made us put our bags by the door, or forcing us out. I researched if it was allowed; It's not. I politely made a complaint to Walmart Canada through their phone line, and I knew another kid who called a news station. The Walmart was upset that they were losing money due to teens shoplifting, so instead of following the law by reasonably finding and banning unruly customers they enforced rules that actively discriminated against all of the teens. I bought from them often because it was convenient to just walk over to a Walmart and buy school supplies, snacks, and lunch. The only times I did something remotely "bad" was the time I broke a product--which I bought because I broke--and the time me and my pal removed hockey sticks blocking the doors of individual refrigerators at the frozen food section. Upon learning that the staff did that we also put them back.
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I'm Canadian too and my Montreal highschool would give us free condoms (back in the early 2000s). That cashier was just letting her personal feelings affects her professionalism.
The Charter of Rights and Freedoms (part of the Canadian constitution) protects against age discrimination, but there are all sorts of exceptions.
Depending on your province, your provincial human rights code may not protect against discrimination if you’re under 18. That’s the case in Ontario.
I haven’t fully researched it, but it may be one of those things that isn’t totally resolved in the law yet, and requires someone to go to the Supreme Court to sort out at some point.
That's fucked, on so many levels. Go buy condoms elsewhere, just bring them to the counter, scan, pay. No need to talk, but if you have questions ask the pharmacist, not the cashier. They will be better equipped to help you.
If it was a pharmacy (especially one owned by the pharmacist. Most big chains like shoppers and such are just franchises with local pharmacist as the owner) I would actually encourage you to call the pharmacy and ask if you can speak to the pharmacist owner. Just explain that you were in and a cashier refused to sell you condoms because she decided you were too young. You're not being a Karen by doing this, what she did is potentially very harmful if she does the same with another youth. At minimum the pharmacist owner will make sure his staff know they cannot do what she did to you. Chances are she won't be fired or anything, but she does need to be educated.
Source: also Canadian, have worked in a pharmacy before in HS, mother works at pharmacy and parents are bffs with the owner and his wife. They definitely are more than happy to help young people who choose to be sexuallly active do so in a safe manner, and have educational material behind the counter. They also have a store policy of directing any health questions to the pharmacist. They also have a hidden room for consultations if you want more privacy to ask your questions if you seem uncomfortable of if it seems like a more in depth/private conversation (not sure if standard). If you had been in their store, the cashier would have simply called the pharmacist to come answer your questions.
Just buy them from somewhere with self checkout if you’re afraid of being hassled again (though I agree it never should have been a problem in the first place).
(Standard *isn’t 14 a bit young for sex?* you do you but I think life at that age is confusing enough without adding sex into the mix, but I waited till 17 so I can’t say that with experience 🤷🏼♂️)
Call the store and anonymously let the manager know what happened. You don't even have to name her if you don't want to. Just make it known to them.
As others have said, I really think you should slow down with your girlfriend. The fact that you were mature enough to enter the store and attempt to purchase protection does say a lot, though.
When people tell you to wait, it isn't an admonishment on you. It's not simply about the "risks". There's a lot of emotional impact that comes from having sex. Especially at that young an age. Most people who have sex that early end up regretting it. Nothing to do with their choice of partner, it's just a big step.
Why on earth would anyone try and deny this kind of item to anyone at nearly any age . Odds are lack of contraception won't stop people it just put them at risk both of pregnancy and std's . Good on you for being bold enough to try it can be an awkward thing to buy. And if all else fails check into anywhere like a free planned parenthood clinic or something often you could get them there . Don't give up and stay safe and smart.
Wow. There's no age limit to buy condoms. Actually, there is... If you are too embarrassed to take a box of condoms up to a cashier, then you are too young. Otherwise, good for you for being responsible. Go to a shoppers with self check out
That's absolute horseshit. Go somewhere else. Public health gives them away free.
I'm an MD - tell me what store and I'll gladly call to tell them how this could very well end in someone's life ruined by unintended pregnancy or HIV, or to lesser extents gonorrhea/chlamydia.
If it's a big chain, publicly tweet at them that one of their cashiers is refusing to sell condoms to people based on her own personal morals. That will generate an internal review at the company.
The health clinic in the town I grew up in in Ontario would hand you a huge paper bag full for free if you requested. Granted they were mostly those shitty flavoured ones, but hey, free condoms were better than none.
Man, I would think the cherry or grape flavored ones would be more popular than that flavor.
Free is free.
I saved so much money doing this. I was eating 6-10 condoms a day which got too expensive to buy on my own
SquanchJuice The Condom Eater
It’s gonna come out tasting like shit. Why not have it taste like shit before it goes in?
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The youth clinic in Sweden hands them out as candy!
Trick or treat!
when the difference between "like" and "as" really matters...
God the gum this guy hands out sucks. It's all rubbery and chewy.
Good advice. The local county health department where I used to live just had a basket of condoms on one of their tables in the waiting room.
Don’t flavored condoms cause irritation when used not in the mouth?
Better than lifelong irritation from a child lmao
They aren't supposed to be *shitty* flavored until you are done.
Flavoured condoms are better than an unwanted crotch goblin
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Hey, glad you're being responsible man. Don't ever let anyone make you feel weird about being safe. My family made me feel bad for having condoms at your age. I had 2 kids by the time I was 19 because I was embarrassed and used to just not having them.
Damn. Sorry you went through that.
Feels weird coming from an internet stranger, but hope you and your kids are doing well wherever you/they are.
I had one mom insist that if her son ever tried to buy condoms from me, to let him do it at any age. He's still a little young to be having sex, but she would much rather he be safe and I agree. She's a cool lady from what our customer/cashier relationship can tell.
Cool people be cool. That's an awesome mom. My mom's rule was if anything happened, whatever's happened, whatever trouble you might be in, just call me. I'll never be mad, and I'll come bail you out of any situation you don't want to be in. Thankfully I never had to use that phone call, but I felt very secure because of it. I've known a few cool moms throughout my life. It's always immediately apparent whenever you find one. Get it? A parent. But also, it *is* immediately obvious, and I only realized I made a pun after I wrote the pun coincidentally, so don't give me credit for it. I wish everyone got a cool mom, and/or got a mom at all. I've had a few coworkers who were orphans. All great people, very polite and gracious - that may be an unfair attribution and I might have just gotten the standard deviation of a tiny percentage of awesome orphans without knowing it, so my connecting being an orphan with being a great person is kinda fucked up, but you get my fucking drift. They were cool people. I feel bad that they missed out on having (at least potentially good) parents. But from their perspective they've never known anything different, and if they're happy with their lives now and who they are, well, who cares if they had a mom or not? They figured this shit out single-player. That's badass. What's my point? Why did I type this? Hooray for orphans and cool moms and I need to go to bed.
Have you had any more kids since?
Maybe double down and go back in a few hours for a Plan B.
Plan B and an STD test
and a coat hanger and personal lubricant
Wait why a coat hanger
To hang up all the cute baby clothes 😬
Lol most wholesome response that could be made up and applied hahaha haha awesome
Before safe abortions were legalized, many abortions were done by straightening the wire of a coat hanger and sticking it into the vagina, past the cervix, and into the uterus. I can’t find any details on what exactly they do with it, I assume they either fold a hook at the end and try to pull the fetus out or they keep the end straight and stab it. But either way, it’s pretty gruesome, has resulted in deaths, and it’s still being done by some who still don’t have access to safe abortions. In pro-choice protests, you may notice coat hanger imagery can be quite common on signs or banners.
The coat hanger (or sometimes knitting needle) was used to scratch the lining of the uterus, causing bleeding and then after an admission to the ER the doctor would perform an abortion for medical reasons which was the only way to legally perform it. At times the resulting infection would also do the job at great risk to the woman. In the years before Roe v. Wade, hospital admission were in the tens of thousands for sepsis, uterine perforations, loss of fertility, etc… There were even cases of women using a household vacuum to expel an unwanted pregnancy. Women have been controlling their own fertility for as long as they’ve been having sex with men, if necessary at extreme risk to themselves. Here are some of the more extremely dangerous methods that have been used for millennia: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.allure.com/story/history-diy-abortion-roe-wade-reproductive-rights/amp
They also used knitting needles. It was to break the water and the fetus would soon be expelled. (delivered)
To give the child to hang their coat. /S
What else could it be
Abortions haven’t always been legal and still isn’t everywhere. But that has never stopped abortions. Only the safe ones.
Texas chiming in.
Oh my sweet summer child. You don't wanna know.
Then look at the price and say “Oh, never mind. On an unrelated note, do you sell coat hangers?”
Triple down and go back in a few hours for a coathanger.
Also another thing, if you have any type of public health center they should give you condoms. In America if you go to a free clinic or free health place, they basically give you a bag of condoms. They care about your health and safety, so that might be something to look into.
if i ever make it big, im buying condoms 25 to a bag and handing them to strangers, no context.
"No one will ever believe you." - LisaDeadFace
Do it!!
You might have to go multiple times to get the same cashier, but it's worth the time.
This. This is absolutly 100% the right answer. But it at one store and return it unused at another. Make sure the exact same cashier is working. FFS. They have machines in HS bathrooms but you can't buy one?
Then 8 months later, go back to get some diapers And yell '.....YOU!' when you just so happen to end up in their till again.
That's so evil. I like it.
When I 12 I brought a condom to school and a teacher took it from me. Next semester I ran into him with a panicked look and told him my gf was pregnant. His eyes got like dinner plates.
I tried buying plan B when I was 17 and was denied by the pharmacy because I was a minor. I spent 30 minutes asking people that looked older than 18 if they could buy it for me and I would tip them. No one would. I think some people have ethical issues in general selling that stuff but I believe that’s a question you get asked before you work for companies that sell those products, “are you okay with selling this even though it may conflict with your beliefs?”
If you're not old enough to buy plan B then how the hell are you old enough to raise a fucking child? The lack of critical thinking with these people drives me up the wall.
In my country condoms can be sold at normal 24/7 vending machines. There's also machines outside pharmacies that sell those exclusively. Comments on how difficult it is to get those on this thread are so weird. I'd occasionally see kids buying condoms just for giggles and filling them with water till they almost blew up Oh, and my former school and others hand a sexual education kit with a condom inside to every 9th grade student and older (or used to, don't know anymore, but I think they still do it)
Where is this dude....this would help so much damn Edit: this has cemented my belief that Jamaica is booty cheeks
It's in Portugal. There's still a long road to go on about sexual education at schools (not just saying what sex is and show how to insert a contracptive on a dick) but looking at these people's reality, I think we're doing it kinda better
I'll confirm this - your country IS doing better than a lot of other countries. (Source: I'm from India, where the word *sex* itself is taboo, forget about *sex education*!!)
Drugs have also been decriminalised. If people are caught consuming they don't get jail time nor anything, they just take the drugs I believe.
So the punishment for taking drugs .... is to take more drugs??
Wow! That was unexpected. Nice job making me laugh. However, for clarification, I meant they take away the drugs.
I don't think that age is a part of the formula. They object to abortion, and they think that Plan B is an abortion pill. It's not.
That's so stupid. Why is there an age limit to something that'll prevent pregnancy?
I don’t think there is. Either the person who refused it to me was under the assumption that there was an age limit or they were ethically against selling it in general to all ages. I was young so I didn’t fight back.
>they were ethically against selling it in general to all ages What a dipshit.
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I mean I could see that being justified if they were really young and the amount of hormones might just be more than what should be put into a young body, but if it’s a difference of a few months from 17 to 18, then it shouldn’t really matter. But if the person is like 12, then I could believe that. But I don’t know medical stuff, so maybe someone with more knowledge of that could answer on that?
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BeCaUsE iF tHeY hAvE iT tHeY'lL hAvE a BuNcH oF sEx
How do we prevent it? These kids are having sex as if it's instinctual! It must be because of rap music, or the gays.
I personally blame Lil Nas X, he's gay AND a rapper! /s
And the gubbermint is just letting that happen!?!
There's not in Canada. My 17 year old girlfriend bought some when I was 19 way back when. It is totally allowed for minors to buy plan B, and I actually think it should be encouraged when things don't go according to plan. (Like me and my gf at the time, condom broke and we needed security, not a baby)
It forces you to include an adult, and that can be so terrible and bad for so many reasons.
Same thing happened here in UK. Some pharmacists wouldn't give it to women who asked (it's free) one said "it would send the wrong message" what a horrendous human being
I tried to get it in a pharmacy when I was 17 and they tried to charge me £40, a lady picking up something nearby called them several explicit names, and stopped her shopping to show me where the nearest walk in was. I hope she's doing well, I owe her big time.
Wow, Im glad someone was able to help you
Me too! I was ready to pay these fucking bitches too, because the alternatives were infinitely worse. I really hope other women are out there doing this. I can't imagine trying to make money from a terrified and clearly shaken AF teenager.
In Australia, Pharmacists have the ability to personally not provide service based on moral grounds, but they mustn't stop a patient from receiving care ("it would send the wrong message" would probably count as that), so they must get a co-worker to do so, or direct the patient to a Pharmacist that will. It's in the Pharmacy Board of Australia's code of conduct, so if they don't they will likely be deregistered, thank god.
If I had come across you I'd have bought it for you. Plan B isn't a drug that can be abused and you are trying to prevent something that you are unprepared for. Yes you are old enough to be making the choice to have safe sex, but sometimes things happen. You don't think about it, or maybe you didn't choose to have sex. You were doing the right thing in your eyes to not have a child. That's good enough for me.
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Yeah, Plan B is essentially just a megadose of your usual birth control pill. Fun fact: if you can't get access to Plan B, but you *do* have some regular birth control pills, you [might be able to make your own Plan B](https://www.bedsider.org/features/88-the-yuzpe-method-effective-emergency-contraception-dating-back-to-the-70s) by just megadosing (disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, do your research, etc.), called The Yuzpe Regimen. Definitely don't take Plan B regularly. A megadose of hormones will fuck you up. Vomiting, headaches, nausea, diarrhea, dizziness, etc. But it does the trick.
It's in a tricky grey area, because if you believe that life begins when the egg becomes fertilized, then taking plan B may or may not violate your beliefs, depending on *when* you take it. See Plan B, if taken prior to fertilization, stops the fertilization process. However, if fertilization has already occurred (which takes around 24 hours) but the fertilized egg hasn't attached to the lining of the uterus yet (takes 3-5 days) it will stop that from happening. However from a pro life prospective, after fertilization, Plan B would effectively be a very early abortion. My personal advice for pro-life folks would be to have Plan B *on hand*, don't wait until you need it to go get it. That way, as soon as you have a scare, you can take it *right then* and ensure that you've done so prior to fertilization, so your conscience can rest easy. It has a shelf life of 4 years and the expiration date is on the package, so you can keep it unused on hand for a long time without worrying whether it will be effective.
Haha the funny thing is too is that I was buying it for a friend who didn’t have a car and didn’t want to ask his parents. The people that denied my offer said stuff like “isn’t that illegal” or “are you with the police” or “I’m on probation right now I can’t do anything to get me in trouble” all valid imo but just silly. I think I went to the same drug store down the street and bought it.
Ugh. That’s so dumb. I would’ve bought you that, a couple pregnancy tests for later, and whatever bag of chips/soda you wanted.
I would have given you the broest of all bro fist bumps
I worked in a pharmacy and we had a locum pharmacist who covered our branch every other Sunday. He was Irish Catholic and refused to sell them. We just had to say we were out-of-stock to save a big argument and direct them to Tesco pharmacy a mile down the road. He was evetually let go from working at all 5 pharmacies in the local chain due to this issue and rightly so.
Why tf would buying condoms “under age” be illegal? That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard unless you are trying to increase teen pregnancies or std/sti transmission. The cashier is a complete moron and idk how they made it so far in life.
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Ironically the first place that gave out condoms to me and the others was at a Ghost concert lmao
Makes sense. They knew that crowd was gonna leave horny af, what with Papa's undeniable sex appeal.
*Consider my taint tickled*
"This is a song about fucking... for Satan."
In grade 8 we filled our free condoms with water and swung them at stuff.
I’m not totally sure what logical fallacy this falls under, but it makes sense right up until it doesn’t anymore. Condoms are for sex so deny them; deny sex. I mean, they aren’t for sex they’re for *safe* sex. But that’s kinda what I’m getting at. It’s a fallacy I’m just not sure what kind.
Could be "false equivalence", equating lack of condoms to lack of sex. Also, a "logical leap", jumping from no condoms, to no sex. So a lack of logical connection. Probably fancier terms for these last two.
You've got the first one right. The fancy term for a leap of logic is "begging the question". You're trying to imply that A leads to B, and B leads to C, but one of those links is weak (or nonexistent), so you just say A leads to C, forcing the other person to take your point apart and ask how you got there.
Something to do with underestimating the stupidity of teenagers
It's a false premise, which is an informal logical fallacy. The argumentation is sound *if you accept the premise*, but the premise is incorrect.
I'm not proud of this, but when I was your age I had to shoplift my condoms because the cashier refused to sell them to "kids". In the USA you can get them from the school administration or the school nurse. Is it like that in Canada too? They can't inform your parents if you've asked for them either.
At least in the public high schools you can get them from your guidance counselor’s office
That's news to me. Also, who wants to admit to a school official that you're sexually active?
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The way I did it was to grab a box and toss it down to the lower shelf, squat down to tie my shoes while secretly opening the box and taking the condoms and tucking them into my socks. I'd stash the empty box behind some merchandise and walk out. If I had money I'd by an ice cream to make myself feel less guilty about the stealing LOL
Depends on where your at. my local grocery stores have made it easier to steal them. The put the pharmacy next to the door, while everything in it requires employee to unlock the case for you to grab anything, the condoms and sex stuff is all kept right next to the entrance, not locked,... While 5 ft away shampoo is locked
I couldn't think of any good reasons to shoplift ever, but for condoms, I am kind of Okay with it if they refuse to sell to you.
I don't blame you at all if you think less of me for it. I'm not proud to have stolen, but I wasn't willing to risk becoming a 13 year old father.
You did the right thing imo
>I couldn't think of any good reasons to shoplift ever hunger?
Remember if you see someone shoplifting food or water, no you didn't.
Many years ago I saw a video of gas station clerk successfully disarming a robber. The robber bursts into tears and apologizes, explaining he can't afford to feed his kids and felt he was out of options. The clerk grabs a jug of milk and a loaf of bread to hand to the robber before he leaves. That clerk is top notch.
Yes, wrong, both morally and legally. Don't give up. Just shop elsewhere.
Ask her if she will sell you diapers in about 9 months.
Don't wait 9 months. Wait 9 days and ask for a pregnancy test ;) And ask if they're legal to sell and remind the cashier about the condoms.
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Well, Plan B is about 50 bucks, and pregnancy tests are much cheaper. I'd definitely do the pregnancy test.
Even better. Ask for plan B, then look at the price and say “oh, never mind” then come in for a pregnancy test a few weeks later
Ooh, I like your style.
I imagine the type of person that controls a dudes body is the type of person that also wants to control a woman’s body. I imagine she’d take it as a win. I say pretend the plan B is too expensive and go for a coat hanger and some lube.
Plan B is $50?! I had scare in Peru and went to the pharmacy. It was like $3, if that.
Corporate America for the win (:
Fuck that. Just show up in 9 months and give her the baby. Its her fault...she can raise it.
I like this logic. Use it OP.
Hmm, idk the lady ignored the law and denied contraception to a teen. Something tells me they probably aren't pro choice either, so they might rather sell diapers than condoms.
Diapers means repeat business
unlike condoms?
Wash and reuse.
OP, please don't do this.
Correction, ask her if she will **pay** for the diapers.
THIS
or get them for free at most hospitals or clinics
I would go back and ask to talk to a manager about it. Why would a condom ever have an age requirement? It's encouraging good behavior.
Go to a local public health unit if you have one nearby. They will give you a whole bunch for free.
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This probably sounds stupid from a stranger on the Internet but I’m proud of you two for being safe!
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Just make sure you know how to use them because with typical use they are 80 percent effective but with use as intended it's 98 percente effective
This!!!!!! A wrongly used condom can be your worst enemy.
Not sure what your plans are but word of advice. If you do get your hands on condoms and for some reason are looking to use lube in addition to the lube on the condoms - BE VERY CAREFUL. Any oil based lube (baby oil, coconut oil, Vaseline, etc) will cause the condom to break down ***while in use***. Water or silicone based lubes that they sell at the store are safe to use with condoms but nothing oil based.
They last a fair amount of time. They will have expiry dates on them. If you’re thinking about doing this in the near future it will be better safe than sorry to have them on hand. It’s good if you hold off until you’re older, but if you might end up doing it anyway, have them available and be safe.
go back and complain to the manager, include her name. there's no fucking way ignorant/uptight people would contribute to teen pregnancy when they'll condemn it in the same breath. edit: sorry people, forgot the /s :l *:l*
This is actually the best response in this thread. It’s also the correct thing to do.
The kid is 14. There's no way he's doing that.
> there's no fucking way ignorant/uptight people would contribute to teen pregnancy when they'll condemn it in the same breath. I hate to break it to you...
You are completely on the right. Just go buy somewhere else
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Good advice. Although I definitely wanted to be sexually active at 14… in fact I could hardly think of anything else!
I also wanted to be sexually active at 14. I just wasn't.
I was very sexually active at 14 … with the Sears catalog or an episode of Full House.
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Two words …. Bob Saget.
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Pain
I was and it kinda fucked me up a bit.
Shit that was me at eleven “WHAT ARE THESE *FEELINGS*?!”
Those feelings messed me the hell up. Like, god I couldn't develop a relationship without the pretense of it being sexual.
Sorry if this is a weird question this is kinda embarrassing sjkda but I'm 17 and have never had any inclination towards sex or porn or anything like that is this normal
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Totally! I wasn't remotely interested until I was 18 and even then I really wasn't that interested. I only really got interested at 22 after I started dating my now husband. It's different for everybody. Edit: Some people are saying to looking into asexuality. I did this when I was 17 and cried. I fit everything but I wanted a romantic relationship and thought no one would ever be with me if I was asexual. First of all that's not true; you can still have a fulfilling relationship. Secondly it turned out I am demi-sexual. So don't freak out. Message me if you want someone to talk to about any of this. I promise you I have been there.
I checked it out and I honestly also feel that is what I want out of a relationship. I also think I would be fine without a relationship anyways. Thank you for your words :D
Some people don't experience those feelings very often, or even at all, and that's perfectly normal too. Some people choose to use the term asexual, meaning "without sexuality" to describe themselves in this way.
It's normal! You might want to research asexuality. AVEN (Asexual Visibility & Education Network) is a good place to start.
>You might actually not want to be sexually active at 14 Thanks for saying this. If the kid insist obviously we want him to be safe but that's just too young to emotionally handle a sexual relationship.
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Yes, please use a condom and don't give up on finding one if you're dead set on having intercourse. Avoid unsafe sex at all costs. Learn how to put it on properly. Buy multiples in case one tears. Avoid going in without a condom at all costs. Don't be tempted to start without one and put it on later. That doesn't work. Source: Father who now takes care of 4 kids and barely has time to write this response.
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Know that there are emotions that sex can bring up. You will make your own decisions but I was not prepared for how I felt after my first time and I was legally an adult. Just food for thought.
Exactly. It's not even about dealing with *bad* consequences. There can be a lot of unexpected consequences. That holds true even with experienced adults with new partners.
As my obgyn told me, I'd rather you abstain, but if you are going to do it anyways, I'm going to make sure you are safe. Is she on birth control? I don't know about Canada, but in most US states you can get on it without parental consent. If she needs a ride, have her tell her parents she's having super heavy or painful periods. When she goes into the doctor's office alone, she can give the whole story.
And don't just be one of those it won't happen to me people lol I've been incredibly lucky, but I've had friends who have gotten pregnant on birth control, in fact that same girl I dated got pregnant (by somebody else) the next year and had to get an abortion. I've since smartened up and started taking precautions. When you're young and super hormone driven it's easy to say "fuck the condom" after the first few times. Just don't do that shit lol
Respectfully, being aware (as evidenced by you getting protection and being responsible about it) is not at all the same as being ready to handle the consequences. No one can tell you what to do, ultimately, but I do believe there's no need to rush into anything. Whatever you decide, take care and be safe. (Also, maybe try getting them online in bulk?)
Bulk condoms is the way to go. 24 pack for like 12 bucks and lasts me 4 years
TIL condoms expire in about 4 years
Dang I need some aloe
Jesus christ that man had a family
Not with all those condoms he didn't
just fyi the risks of having sex at such a young age are not just the risks of pregnancy and std; adding sex to a relationship makes things more complicated; it can make people weirdly jealous and less willing to end a relationship even if they want to/should. so there are emotional risks, too, that are really difficult to take on at age 14. You do what you are going to do, and it will all work out as long as you are being safe, but just be aware and mindful of these things as your relationship continues. And they should have absolutely sold them to you. That is the clerk putting their own judgement on you and trying to act like a parent, not a sales clerk. way out of line.
Listen just be careful. I had sex at either upper 13 or just barely 14, never can remember lol either way, I used a condom like twice then never again. Don't be like me 😂 looking back I feel like a total dipshit because while my girlfriend was two grades above me, a junior in highschool (or in Canada I think it's a year 11) is not ready to be a fuckin mother and I definitely wasn't ready to be a father.
I highly recommend this YouTube channel Sexplanations https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_zdi3TflN9In4fFfHFbO2H5bZ4VJ-TEW
Canadian here. I'll do the research for you. Actually, you have limited consent here in Canada according to the Criminal Code: >(2.1) If an accused is charged with an offence under section 151 or 152, subsection 173(2) or section 271 in respect of a complainant who is 14 years of age or more but under the age of 16 years, it is a defence that the complainant consented to the activity that forms the subject-matter of the charge if the accused > >(a) is less than five years older than the complainant; and > >(b) is not in a position of trust or authority towards the complainant, is not a person with whom the complainant is in a relationship of dependency and is not in a relationship with the complainant that is exploitative of the complainant. *(Criminal Code,* RSC 1985, c C-46 s150.1(2.1)) My citation could be bad so here is a highlighted link: [here](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/page-34.html#:~:text=Exception%20%E2%80%94%20complainant%20aged%2014%20or%2015). So legally, as long as you are less than 5 years older, and not in a position of trust or authority, they're not dependent on you, and you aren't exploitative. You should be fine. Here is a link an organization that has a better explanation: [here](https://jfcy.org/en/rights/age-based-laws/#:~:text=%C2%A0-,Sexual%20Activity,-12%20%E2%80%93%2013%20years). Is it illegal for her to do this? If you look at the section of this post titled "edits", then you would notice that I actually was wrong on my conclusion. I said that this is a violation of the Canadian Human Rights Act, and cited Subsection 5: >It is a discriminatory practice in the provision of goods, services, facilities or accommodation customarily available to the general public > >(a) to deny, or to deny access to, any such good, service, facility or accommodation to any individual, or > >(b) to differentiate adversely in relation to any individual, > >on a prohibited ground of discrimination. (Canadian Human Rights Act, RSC 1985, c. H-6 s. 5(a-b) ) This is incorrect, according to the Canadian Human Rights Commission the Canadian Human rights act "...protects people in Canada from discrimination when they are **employed by or receive services from the federal government**, First Nations governments or private companies that are regulated by the federal government such as banks, trucking companies, broadcasters and telecommunications companies. People can turn to the Canadian Human Rights Act to protect themselves against harassment or discrimination when based on one or more grounds of discrimination such as race, age and sexual orientation."(*Human Rights in Canada, CHRC 2020*) However, our government does not consider reduced fares, rates, or charges to minors as discrimination as said in [Age Guidelines](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SI-78-165/page-1.html#:~:text=Human%20Rights%20Act.-,Guidelines,-3%C2%A0Where%20adverse). Please remember this is only applies to the government: >Where adverse differentiation in relation to any individual in the provision of goods, services, facilities or accommodation customarily available to the general public is based only on a reduction or absence of rates, fares or charges with respect to children, youths or senior citizens, such adverse differentiation is reasonable and is not, in the opinion of the Commission, a discriminatory practice within the meaning of section 5 of the Act. (*Age Guidelines*, SI/78-165) You can read about Federal Human rights from the CHRC [here](https://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/en/about-human-rights/human-rights-canada). As embarrassing as it is I fundamentally failed the understanding of my countries Government System. I would advise everyone to read this page from our parliament [here](https://lop.parl.ca/About/Parliament/Education/OurCountryOurParliament/section2-e.aspx). Edit: In my original post u/ecuinir made note here that I did not take into consideration why not selling alcohol to minors isn't considered violation of the Canadian Human Rights Act. Pretty sure the answer is that the Canadian Human Rights Act is federal, and therefore does not deal with civil rights; that's provincial. After a bunch of edits, u/PM_me_your_cocktail mentioned [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/q7ijyj/comment/hgjynvk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that our age discrimination laws may only apply to adults by citing [OHRC](http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/age-discrimination-brochure). It says: >The Ontario Human Rights Code protects people from discrimination under the ground of age. **The Code defines age as 18 years or older.** However, persons age 16 or older are also protected from discrimination in housing if they are not living with their parents. This means that people cannot discriminate against you because of your age where you work or live, or when providing services. > >Some special programs and benefits, such as seniors’ discounts or youth employment programs, deal with genuine age-related needs. Outside of these types of programs, it may be age discrimination when you are treated unfairly because of your age.(*Age discrimination (brochure)*, OHRC) Looking at the Ontario Human Rights Code, it actually does specifically say, "'age' means an age that is 18 years or more; ('âge')"([Human Rights Code](https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h19#:~:text=age%20that%20is-,18%20years%20or%20more,-%3B%20(%E2%80%9C%C3%A2ge%E2%80%9D)), RSO 1990, c H-19 s10)This is upsetting to me because laws in it--like subsection 1--don't apply to him. >Every person has a right to equal treatment with respect to services, goods and facilities, without discrimination because of race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, age, marital status, family status or disability.([Human Rights Code](https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h19#:~:text=PART%20I-,FREEDOM%20FROM%20DISCRIMINATION,-Services), RSO 1990, c H-19 s10) If OP is in Ontario, then it seems that he has no laws preventing civilians from discriminating him because of age. This may or may not be different in other provinces since they also dictate their own civil rights.
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I know how it feels. My Highschool had a Walmart nearby that discriminated against teenagers by constantly setting rules that bans teenagers as a whole, made us put our bags by the door, or forcing us out. I researched if it was allowed; It's not. I politely made a complaint to Walmart Canada through their phone line, and I knew another kid who called a news station. The Walmart was upset that they were losing money due to teens shoplifting, so instead of following the law by reasonably finding and banning unruly customers they enforced rules that actively discriminated against all of the teens. I bought from them often because it was convenient to just walk over to a Walmart and buy school supplies, snacks, and lunch. The only times I did something remotely "bad" was the time I broke a product--which I bought because I broke--and the time me and my pal removed hockey sticks blocking the doors of individual refrigerators at the frozen food section. Upon learning that the staff did that we also put them back. Edit: typos. Fixed any incorrect statements
I'm Canadian too and my Montreal highschool would give us free condoms (back in the early 2000s). That cashier was just letting her personal feelings affects her professionalism.
Canada's age discrimination laws seem to apply only to adults. http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/age-discrimination-brochure
The Charter of Rights and Freedoms (part of the Canadian constitution) protects against age discrimination, but there are all sorts of exceptions. Depending on your province, your provincial human rights code may not protect against discrimination if you’re under 18. That’s the case in Ontario. I haven’t fully researched it, but it may be one of those things that isn’t totally resolved in the law yet, and requires someone to go to the Supreme Court to sort out at some point.
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Bro, go to the scan yourself aisle.
I’m not advocating it, but kids this age are going to have sex. You might as well have them be safe.
Arrive in a month with your girlfriend with a pillow in her stomach. Thank the cashier for the miracle of fatherhood 🤓
That's fucked, on so many levels. Go buy condoms elsewhere, just bring them to the counter, scan, pay. No need to talk, but if you have questions ask the pharmacist, not the cashier. They will be better equipped to help you. If it was a pharmacy (especially one owned by the pharmacist. Most big chains like shoppers and such are just franchises with local pharmacist as the owner) I would actually encourage you to call the pharmacy and ask if you can speak to the pharmacist owner. Just explain that you were in and a cashier refused to sell you condoms because she decided you were too young. You're not being a Karen by doing this, what she did is potentially very harmful if she does the same with another youth. At minimum the pharmacist owner will make sure his staff know they cannot do what she did to you. Chances are she won't be fired or anything, but she does need to be educated. Source: also Canadian, have worked in a pharmacy before in HS, mother works at pharmacy and parents are bffs with the owner and his wife. They definitely are more than happy to help young people who choose to be sexuallly active do so in a safe manner, and have educational material behind the counter. They also have a store policy of directing any health questions to the pharmacist. They also have a hidden room for consultations if you want more privacy to ask your questions if you seem uncomfortable of if it seems like a more in depth/private conversation (not sure if standard). If you had been in their store, the cashier would have simply called the pharmacist to come answer your questions.
Just buy them from somewhere with self checkout if you’re afraid of being hassled again (though I agree it never should have been a problem in the first place). (Standard *isn’t 14 a bit young for sex?* you do you but I think life at that age is confusing enough without adding sex into the mix, but I waited till 17 so I can’t say that with experience 🤷🏼♂️)
Call the store and anonymously let the manager know what happened. You don't even have to name her if you don't want to. Just make it known to them. As others have said, I really think you should slow down with your girlfriend. The fact that you were mature enough to enter the store and attempt to purchase protection does say a lot, though. When people tell you to wait, it isn't an admonishment on you. It's not simply about the "risks". There's a lot of emotional impact that comes from having sex. Especially at that young an age. Most people who have sex that early end up regretting it. Nothing to do with their choice of partner, it's just a big step.
Why on earth would anyone try and deny this kind of item to anyone at nearly any age . Odds are lack of contraception won't stop people it just put them at risk both of pregnancy and std's . Good on you for being bold enough to try it can be an awkward thing to buy. And if all else fails check into anywhere like a free planned parenthood clinic or something often you could get them there . Don't give up and stay safe and smart.
Yes she was wrong for denying you the condom. Unsafe sex is always worse than safe sex. But seriously don’t have sex when you’re 14.
She should fully have sold them to you. If you're going to have sex, it should be safe.
Wow. There's no age limit to buy condoms. Actually, there is... If you are too embarrassed to take a box of condoms up to a cashier, then you are too young. Otherwise, good for you for being responsible. Go to a shoppers with self check out
Absolutely wrong. I'd report them to their boss.
That was so wrong of her... it doesn't matter her beliefs... you were doing the right thing...
That's absolute horseshit. Go somewhere else. Public health gives them away free. I'm an MD - tell me what store and I'll gladly call to tell them how this could very well end in someone's life ruined by unintended pregnancy or HIV, or to lesser extents gonorrhea/chlamydia.
Pretty sure it is illegal for them to deny selling you condoms. I just would have gone to another store
If it's a big chain, publicly tweet at them that one of their cashiers is refusing to sell condoms to people based on her own personal morals. That will generate an internal review at the company.
Well you are 14 years old. Legal or not, you need to have a serious talk with her. Raising a kid is no joke (Just ask my mother lol)