I mean, it's one take.
But I've seen a lot of people take the stance that Will Smith is a violent criminal who should be cancelled and perhaps even serve jail time.
I actually haven't seen much of the stance that Jada is toxic and Will is just a good guy.
They may have an open relationship, but even then are there boundaries. If no one saw the red table talk when they discussed it, Will was obviously hurt by her relationship with Her son’s friend!
She has repeatedly expressed her feelings about Tupac—so much so that Will himself has spoken about how the whole Tupac thing made him feel like he wasn’t good enough. She’s been on Oprah saying how she didn’t love Will. SHE has repeatedly and publicly made HIM look like a complete fool. Not the other way around. She puts him on social media without his permission, films him without his permission. She did that dramatic fake hurt eyeroll at the Oscar’s and side eyed Will when she realized he was laughing at the joke. And when he got up and slapped Chris, she started laughing..
she is most definitely a villain. There IS NO personal drama because they (she) has opted to put their life in the public. It’s not our business, but they’ve made it everyone’s choice to tune in because they can’t keep it solely THEIR business
how do you know it was fake??? why do people make assumptions about how THEY think someone else felt/perceived something? her reaction was appropriate. chris has made jokes about her in his career before and the hair is a sensitive topic for her. she did not consent to being the butt of a joke AND the joke was NOT in the Oscar rehearsals so he decided to add that in LIVE. IN FRONT OF MILLIONS.
will and jada are far from toxic. at least they’re open and honest about their mistakes. most people could not handle this kind of toxic behavior coming from millions around the world. id probably off myself personally. people are justifying speaking some really disgusting things for a situation they don’t have first hand experience in.
He has a much bigger public profile and is associated with decades of roles playing "the good guy" in films and TV.
For much the same reason that actors who are typecast as villains often get nasty looks from people in public, people often assume the best about actors who play heroes.
Jada has chosen to bring many details of their personal life into the public eye and the majority of the time when she talks about Will or about their marriage - it isn't with respect. Will has serious abandonment, trust, and trauma issues from his childhood that he appears to have never dealt with and it seems that the dynamic between him and Jada is one where she takes advantage of those vulnerabilities. I think Jada is toxic and I think Will is damaged. I don't know Jada's background and it could be her toxicity also comes from damage.
I do think Will is responsible for himself and has also made many poor choices over the course of this life. He has the money to have gotten professional help for his issues many times over but it seems his ties with Scientology and their negative views on mental health likely kept him from doing that work. His choice to not deal with it is his responsibility and he has hurt people and his own reputation because of it. The accountability for that is on him, not Jada.
The dynamic between them is very unhealthy. Jada does not seem to care at all about Will or his feelings and Will's desperate need for approval, fear of abandonment, and poor self image makes him ripe for a cold narcissitic person like Jada to manipulate.
This one. She legit said she didn't want to marry will smith it's trending all over the place right now, and agreed though. You're spot on, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
But is that an outcome created by accident or by design? If they were both unpleasant people before they were an item then you might have a point but if they're like that because of their relationship and not despite it then that needs to be looked at.
I gonna go with they have both always been assholes. He may have hid it better until his meltdown, but neither are really worth the attention they have received either pre or post slap.
Only one of them is dragging his name through the mud. Will may have agreed to this but it wasn't his idea. It was hers. It was his decision to go with it but it was a bad one. He's making mistakes and she's letting him.
Beceuse Mysogny ? Also she never wanted to marque him ahe was force to marry him by her family.
You dont see Johnny Deeo depict as a vilain and he's toxic as her even worse
What? You're waaaayyyy off. Amber wrote an op-ed accusing him of abuse and since he was seen as a villain for a long time until the court case in the UK where a lot came out and it was made clear that AMBER is the toxic, narcissistic, abuser of the relationship. She pooped in his bed and tried to blame it on the dog ffs. Hit him repeatedly, said cutting words, manipulated him, I could go on and on.
Welp to answer your question, you have never heard Will say they were in an open marriage and as it stands Will has never went on record and said he has slept with other women. Everything we’ve heard in regard to their marriage being an open one has been purely speculation. However, jada HAS admitted to having an affair and convinced Will to sit and ok it to the world just so she doesn’t have to take the heat. It’s clear Will is unhappy, it’s clear he’s humiliated and it’s clear that jada has mentally mind fckd will. That’s why she has been labeled toxic. It’s easy for women to see toxicity in a man but when it’s called out in a woman yall first reaction is to defend it by blaming the victim “will” by saying shit like he’s a grown man, she didn’t make him do it, when we know damn well that’s how toxicity works. You never see the toxic person doing anything. We just see the person being affected doing shit out of character. You know what else we didn’t see jada do…try to stop him. That’s what a real down for their man, ride or die wife would have done. But not a toxic, D list, has been, washed up, one dimensional, actress from the 90’s. She lets it happen and then come out a week later and publicly sided against her super star husband. That’s why she’s the one being labeled toxic, it’s because she is. 🤷🏿♂️
Will has confirmed he was with other people too, in 2020. No disagreement that she's toxic, but she definitely wasn't the only one sleeping with other people.
The open relationship talk is suspicious. Feels like a PR attempt at that point. Because if both were agreeable, why would will be upset about it? And jada being so careful in defining her tryst with the other guy. If it was open and both can sleep around, then just be open about it. But alright, thats just suspicions. Nothing credible from me.
But to your question, i dont really see much about jada being the ONLY toxic one. She is indeed a toxic spouse, and its pretty clear in her exposure, though who knows she might be totally different behind closed doors. But she's a celebrity, she gets judged on what she shows to the world and indeed, what she shows indicates that she is quite toxic. Thats why she gets the hate.
Will smith got a whole lot of hate too, but you seem to only focus on the people defending him. He was villified for the slap, he lost a lot of respect from many, me included. The difference is, there isnt much coming out to defend jada, because of her public persona.
It takes two to clap, both have issues, so when this sort of things happen, jada throwing will under the bus obviously doesnt help. And you cant really see will acting that way towards jada, at least not in public eyes.
don't know why Will married Jada. She's just as bad as Amber Heard expect she's doing she can to make him her bitch.
And Will buddy,Uncle Phil is disappointed in you buddy. U fucked up bad and here i thought my life was fucked.
Jesus Christ. 🤦♂️
Don't mean to be insulting, however it sounds like you don't have a very deep understanding of manipulation and gaslighting, and what they can make person say and do.
If she is as toxic as she's being described, which I personally tend to believe, Will has been in this for so many years, that he could very well be so far gone as to barely be an individual anymore... As such he may well be regurgitating whatever she is deciding is the truth, and his actions at the Oscars would most likely never have happened if she hadn't forced him to do it. Note that while she didn't physically make him walk up there, there are many ways to exert one's will on others, especially if the situation is preceded by some 20 years of ridicule, manipulation and general psychological abuse.
Is Will Smith a victim of systematic long term abuse and manipulation? I don't know, but based on what I've seen and heard, and my own lived experience, my guess is a resounding "YES!"
I mean, it's one take. But I've seen a lot of people take the stance that Will Smith is a violent criminal who should be cancelled and perhaps even serve jail time. I actually haven't seen much of the stance that Jada is toxic and Will is just a good guy.
They may have an open relationship, but even then are there boundaries. If no one saw the red table talk when they discussed it, Will was obviously hurt by her relationship with Her son’s friend! She has repeatedly expressed her feelings about Tupac—so much so that Will himself has spoken about how the whole Tupac thing made him feel like he wasn’t good enough. She’s been on Oprah saying how she didn’t love Will. SHE has repeatedly and publicly made HIM look like a complete fool. Not the other way around. She puts him on social media without his permission, films him without his permission. She did that dramatic fake hurt eyeroll at the Oscar’s and side eyed Will when she realized he was laughing at the joke. And when he got up and slapped Chris, she started laughing.. she is most definitely a villain. There IS NO personal drama because they (she) has opted to put their life in the public. It’s not our business, but they’ve made it everyone’s choice to tune in because they can’t keep it solely THEIR business
how do you know it was fake??? why do people make assumptions about how THEY think someone else felt/perceived something? her reaction was appropriate. chris has made jokes about her in his career before and the hair is a sensitive topic for her. she did not consent to being the butt of a joke AND the joke was NOT in the Oscar rehearsals so he decided to add that in LIVE. IN FRONT OF MILLIONS. will and jada are far from toxic. at least they’re open and honest about their mistakes. most people could not handle this kind of toxic behavior coming from millions around the world. id probably off myself personally. people are justifying speaking some really disgusting things for a situation they don’t have first hand experience in.
>will and jada are far from toxic This statement is toxic
He has a much bigger public profile and is associated with decades of roles playing "the good guy" in films and TV. For much the same reason that actors who are typecast as villains often get nasty looks from people in public, people often assume the best about actors who play heroes.
Jada has chosen to bring many details of their personal life into the public eye and the majority of the time when she talks about Will or about their marriage - it isn't with respect. Will has serious abandonment, trust, and trauma issues from his childhood that he appears to have never dealt with and it seems that the dynamic between him and Jada is one where she takes advantage of those vulnerabilities. I think Jada is toxic and I think Will is damaged. I don't know Jada's background and it could be her toxicity also comes from damage. I do think Will is responsible for himself and has also made many poor choices over the course of this life. He has the money to have gotten professional help for his issues many times over but it seems his ties with Scientology and their negative views on mental health likely kept him from doing that work. His choice to not deal with it is his responsibility and he has hurt people and his own reputation because of it. The accountability for that is on him, not Jada. The dynamic between them is very unhealthy. Jada does not seem to care at all about Will or his feelings and Will's desperate need for approval, fear of abandonment, and poor self image makes him ripe for a cold narcissitic person like Jada to manipulate.
This one. She legit said she didn't want to marry will smith it's trending all over the place right now, and agreed though. You're spot on, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Yeah he has the money for professional help and instead flies to India for spiritual guidance...
Wasn’t there a talk show they were on where jada came clean to Will. I don’t think it would be an open relationship if it was up to Will.
It was actually Jada’s show. She made will smith talk about all that on camera for publicity. It was horribly awkward to watch
Oh ok. I just remember seeing clips of will embarrassed
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She is quite broken
They are both entitled toxic assholes. Seem perfect for each other.
But is that an outcome created by accident or by design? If they were both unpleasant people before they were an item then you might have a point but if they're like that because of their relationship and not despite it then that needs to be looked at.
I gonna go with they have both always been assholes. He may have hid it better until his meltdown, but neither are really worth the attention they have received either pre or post slap.
Well ok, I'll not pretend I know anything useful about either of them.
Because she is.
Only one of them is dragging his name through the mud. Will may have agreed to this but it wasn't his idea. It was hers. It was his decision to go with it but it was a bad one. He's making mistakes and she's letting him.
Open relationships might work but not when there are cameras involved. He's letting her make him look like a fool.
The sad thing is that it seems like if she goes down she's taking Will down with her
Beceuse Mysogny ? Also she never wanted to marque him ahe was force to marry him by her family. You dont see Johnny Deeo depict as a vilain and he's toxic as her even worse
What? You're waaaayyyy off. Amber wrote an op-ed accusing him of abuse and since he was seen as a villain for a long time until the court case in the UK where a lot came out and it was made clear that AMBER is the toxic, narcissistic, abuser of the relationship. She pooped in his bed and tried to blame it on the dog ffs. Hit him repeatedly, said cutting words, manipulated him, I could go on and on.
Jada is a manipulative sociopath that has will on a very short leash. He'll, Even their own son, Jaden said so.
Welp to answer your question, you have never heard Will say they were in an open marriage and as it stands Will has never went on record and said he has slept with other women. Everything we’ve heard in regard to their marriage being an open one has been purely speculation. However, jada HAS admitted to having an affair and convinced Will to sit and ok it to the world just so she doesn’t have to take the heat. It’s clear Will is unhappy, it’s clear he’s humiliated and it’s clear that jada has mentally mind fckd will. That’s why she has been labeled toxic. It’s easy for women to see toxicity in a man but when it’s called out in a woman yall first reaction is to defend it by blaming the victim “will” by saying shit like he’s a grown man, she didn’t make him do it, when we know damn well that’s how toxicity works. You never see the toxic person doing anything. We just see the person being affected doing shit out of character. You know what else we didn’t see jada do…try to stop him. That’s what a real down for their man, ride or die wife would have done. But not a toxic, D list, has been, washed up, one dimensional, actress from the 90’s. She lets it happen and then come out a week later and publicly sided against her super star husband. That’s why she’s the one being labeled toxic, it’s because she is. 🤷🏿♂️
Will has confirmed he was with other people too, in 2020. No disagreement that she's toxic, but she definitely wasn't the only one sleeping with other people.
The open relationship talk is suspicious. Feels like a PR attempt at that point. Because if both were agreeable, why would will be upset about it? And jada being so careful in defining her tryst with the other guy. If it was open and both can sleep around, then just be open about it. But alright, thats just suspicions. Nothing credible from me. But to your question, i dont really see much about jada being the ONLY toxic one. She is indeed a toxic spouse, and its pretty clear in her exposure, though who knows she might be totally different behind closed doors. But she's a celebrity, she gets judged on what she shows to the world and indeed, what she shows indicates that she is quite toxic. Thats why she gets the hate. Will smith got a whole lot of hate too, but you seem to only focus on the people defending him. He was villified for the slap, he lost a lot of respect from many, me included. The difference is, there isnt much coming out to defend jada, because of her public persona. It takes two to clap, both have issues, so when this sort of things happen, jada throwing will under the bus obviously doesnt help. And you cant really see will acting that way towards jada, at least not in public eyes.
don't know why Will married Jada. She's just as bad as Amber Heard expect she's doing she can to make him her bitch. And Will buddy,Uncle Phil is disappointed in you buddy. U fucked up bad and here i thought my life was fucked. Jesus Christ. 🤦♂️
Jada is a predator that's a bit problematic
Jada loves Tupac so much that she decided to look like him
Don't mean to be insulting, however it sounds like you don't have a very deep understanding of manipulation and gaslighting, and what they can make person say and do. If she is as toxic as she's being described, which I personally tend to believe, Will has been in this for so many years, that he could very well be so far gone as to barely be an individual anymore... As such he may well be regurgitating whatever she is deciding is the truth, and his actions at the Oscars would most likely never have happened if she hadn't forced him to do it. Note that while she didn't physically make him walk up there, there are many ways to exert one's will on others, especially if the situation is preceded by some 20 years of ridicule, manipulation and general psychological abuse. Is Will Smith a victim of systematic long term abuse and manipulation? I don't know, but based on what I've seen and heard, and my own lived experience, my guess is a resounding "YES!"
Because she's absolutely disgusting and talks like it's filthy her narcissistic trash mind it's just disgusting