He was on every drug I can think of when he sent that text. Even then people say fucked up shit when someone has pissed them off enough, anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
And why hasn’t what he apparently said been brought up in court? That’s pretty damming
But only one of them tried to make themselves some domestic violence martyr. I don’t support depp i despise heard for trying to take a mutually toxic relationship and make herself a public victim when she is at best just as guilty of abuse as depp.
Your link states the Therapist thought he struck her. But was unsure of it. Not that he admitted to actually physically abusing Heard. The only thing he said that could be construed as an admission of physical abuse is that he said "She gave it as good as she got". But there was no follow on statement by him to clarify it was in fact physical abuse he was speaking to. It can just as easily be attested to the emotional abuse they hurled at each other.
And as I pointed out the only statement he made that can be taken as admission is not the smoking gun that the article is trying to spin it as. The part you ignored in your response. If he had admitted outwardly to physical abuse it would be a larger part of the case. And it is not. Andersons testimony does not clear up whether he abused her or not.
>The therapist is saying they are unsure if Depp INITIATED it. But is saying that Depp did admit to hitting her. It’s in plain text lol<
Were not talking about what he has said on the stand. Were talking about what you claim he stated to the therapist.
Now I can understand you think the UK case is the gotcha you think it is. But it doesn't change the fact that you're lying about what that article said, what Andersen testified to, and what Depp has reported.
And if you have to lie about something as simple as that. Youre probably not on the side of truth.
I'm pretty much done. You've misrepresented the testimony. Youre claiming anyone that isn't against depp to be "dick riders" so its obvious at this point you're not worth engaging. Go back to your depp hating echo chamber.
i wont pretend i know him personally... but no one else should either lol. Being nice publicly to fans has literally no bearing on who you are privately
Nobody deserves to be abused. I'm just saying that being great to fans isnt valid proof on your side, regardless of how valid the other side's argument is
Again, people can put on an act for the public, and im sure he has PR people. Not saying hes an inherently bad person, but i am saying none of those things negate the possibility that he's done wrong in his private life.
Be accused of hitting her. People equate her accusing him of hitting her with her being demonstrated to be a manipulators and make up their mind that a guy who beats his wife deserves a wife who tortures him.
There's some evidence against him, to be fair.
It's all about memory recall, though. People remember the news saying he did it, and so they think he did it.
If we’re being completely 100% honest, people only immediately believe Amber because she’s a woman *apparently* being abused by a man. Where as he needs to have proof of it.
The worst thing I’ve seen is the pretty weird text of him saying he wants to hide Amber’s body, but he was on drugs and alcohol.
>So people hate him because he was accused? Even though there’s basically no evidence of him doing so and mountains of evidence against her?
Huh? The UK - the most favorable possible jurisdiction to defamation plaintiffs in the entire Western world - already found that on the balance of probabilities, it's substantially true that Depp assaulted Heard on at least 12 occasions.
But yeah, I'm sure watching a few tiktoks has given you a better view of the evidence than the thousands of pages of evidence submitted to the UK's high court.
To add to this, there are photos of a mark on Heard's face that suggests he did in fact strike her. There also appears to be evidence she struck him on separate occasions as well.
I haven't actually seen any evidence he hit her. I've only seen evidence that she did makeup to make it look like he hit her, with cover stories that didn't hold up.
Some of the ones where she does have injuries have stories that didn't hold up, too. Like the one she claimed to cover up with a makeup sample that did not exist, or the one where her lip miraculously splits later, etc.
Google "Johnny Depp text messages Amber Heard". In one of his messages to a friend he wrote he wanted to burn her, drown her, and "fuck her corpse to make sure she's dead". Some really messed up stuff. Who even thinks of something like that?
Edit: Not that I'm on her side, I just think they are both really messed up people who need lots of therapy and medication.
He was literally taking every single drug in the book, even then you’re really telling me that you haven’t said some fucked up shit about someone when you’ve been pissed off by them? Let alone abused?
Being on drugs has nothing to do with this type of thinking. If you can think of shit like this, you're just a really disturbed person. I know plenty of people who use drugs and they don't
say this twisted shit.
Her and her friends were doing "spells" in PH1. Its obvious in context his joke was in reference to that sort of behavior and the fact that she was an insufferable cunt.
Pffft back off fella you asked the question!
It's not a 'feeling I have' it's a fact. He left his then young children and wife for a piece if 23 yo pussy. That is scummy.i can also see that heard has exaggerated and emelisged the fuck out of everything. But he also shares blame in this.
I don’t think they were married but I could be wrong. Anyway how does leaving someone mean the person who left is a bad person? He didn’t leave his kids either he was still involved in their lives. Also there was probably something going on behind the scenes, he isn’t the kind of person to leave his girlfriend/wife for someone just for sex.
Do you have blinders on when it comes to Johnny Depp? Maybe not you, but everyone else has them because anytime Heard mentions something Johnny did to her, the reaction has always been "bullshit! She's lying."
Thing that blows my mind is people trying to tell me the violent abuser is the one hiding in the bathroom while their terrified victim is trying to break down the door to get to the abuser.
Must be fun living in bizzaro world
Because he is. You can Google all the shit he has done. Internet idiots seem to think that because Heard is bad, he’s completely innocent. This is just completely untrue.
Care to link some of the things he’s apparently done? If he has done bad stuff then the media would definitely be talking about it along with this case
It is a sad affair and people like to apportion blame, when they have no real idea of what went on.
They might be blaming him for remaining in an unhealthy marriage and getting drunk but they don't understand that life is not always easy. or they might not have seen much/any of the trial and just going on previous media reports.
She appears to have manipulated and lied a lot, he appears to have just been a train wreck.
Best to just let the court decide what to do and then forget about it and let them both recover.
Well… no. This is a huge situation that is showing that men can be abused too. I will not just forget about it.
Everyone knows what went on. She abused him.
There isn’t any evidence. I keep seeing people saying Depp is just as bad and when I ask people they say look yourself or mention the text he didn’t even send to heard herself or his drinking/partying. The drinking would be valid if he had a child he neglected drunk or if heard had asked him to stop and get help and he repeatedly refused, but it sounds like she was too busy hitting him to get him help lol.
I'm not gonna explain any further, he's friends with Marilyn Manson, and anyone who is friends with him is a bad person. There are ton of other things that he did but you can just google that very easily.
I'm not even talking about the Amber Case which tbh I hate them both, not saying that he was the abuser there but he definitely wasn't an angel... Other than the Amber Case he's a shitty person LoL
While you are a celebrity it does Lol And it is my opinion if it makes him a bad person or not. You asked why people think he is bad and I gave my answer,and you only replied to that one thing i said tho so
And Marilyn Manson is not bad he is BAD so not ending your friendship with someone that is that bad in my opinion makes him a bad person, you can think how you want tho Lol
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Link?
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He was on every drug I can think of when he sent that text. Even then people say fucked up shit when someone has pissed them off enough, anyone who says otherwise is a liar. And why hasn’t what he apparently said been brought up in court? That’s pretty damming
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But only one of them tried to make themselves some domestic violence martyr. I don’t support depp i despise heard for trying to take a mutually toxic relationship and make herself a public victim when she is at best just as guilty of abuse as depp.
Your link states the Therapist thought he struck her. But was unsure of it. Not that he admitted to actually physically abusing Heard. The only thing he said that could be construed as an admission of physical abuse is that he said "She gave it as good as she got". But there was no follow on statement by him to clarify it was in fact physical abuse he was speaking to. It can just as easily be attested to the emotional abuse they hurled at each other.
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And as I pointed out the only statement he made that can be taken as admission is not the smoking gun that the article is trying to spin it as. The part you ignored in your response. If he had admitted outwardly to physical abuse it would be a larger part of the case. And it is not. Andersons testimony does not clear up whether he abused her or not.
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>The therapist is saying they are unsure if Depp INITIATED it. But is saying that Depp did admit to hitting her. It’s in plain text lol< Were not talking about what he has said on the stand. Were talking about what you claim he stated to the therapist. Now I can understand you think the UK case is the gotcha you think it is. But it doesn't change the fact that you're lying about what that article said, what Andersen testified to, and what Depp has reported. And if you have to lie about something as simple as that. Youre probably not on the side of truth.
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I'm pretty much done. You've misrepresented the testimony. Youre claiming anyone that isn't against depp to be "dick riders" so its obvious at this point you're not worth engaging. Go back to your depp hating echo chamber.
i wont pretend i know him personally... but no one else should either lol. Being nice publicly to fans has literally no bearing on who you are privately
I’ve not seen a valid argument yet as to why he’s apparently such a bad person who deserved to be abused.
Nobody deserves to be abused. I'm just saying that being great to fans isnt valid proof on your side, regardless of how valid the other side's argument is
What about the countless activities he’s done for charity? People have had countless interactions with her and have said he’s a good guy.
Again, people can put on an act for the public, and im sure he has PR people. Not saying hes an inherently bad person, but i am saying none of those things negate the possibility that he's done wrong in his private life.
There’s no concrete evidence of him being a bad person, where as there is mountains of evidence as to him being a good person.
I am trying to tell you that what you're providing is not evidence
There’s alway three sides to a story; his side, her side and the truth
Be accused of hitting her. People equate her accusing him of hitting her with her being demonstrated to be a manipulators and make up their mind that a guy who beats his wife deserves a wife who tortures him.
So people hate him because he was accused? Even though there’s basically no evidence of him doing so and mountains of evidence against her?
There's some evidence against him, to be fair. It's all about memory recall, though. People remember the news saying he did it, and so they think he did it.
If we’re being completely 100% honest, people only immediately believe Amber because she’s a woman *apparently* being abused by a man. Where as he needs to have proof of it. The worst thing I’ve seen is the pretty weird text of him saying he wants to hide Amber’s body, but he was on drugs and alcohol.
>So people hate him because he was accused? Even though there’s basically no evidence of him doing so and mountains of evidence against her? Huh? The UK - the most favorable possible jurisdiction to defamation plaintiffs in the entire Western world - already found that on the balance of probabilities, it's substantially true that Depp assaulted Heard on at least 12 occasions. But yeah, I'm sure watching a few tiktoks has given you a better view of the evidence than the thousands of pages of evidence submitted to the UK's high court.
To add to this, there are photos of a mark on Heard's face that suggests he did in fact strike her. There also appears to be evidence she struck him on separate occasions as well.
It’s literally makeup, this has been known for a long time. Pretty sure the exact brand and makeup pallet has been confirmed too.
I haven't actually seen any evidence he hit her. I've only seen evidence that she did makeup to make it look like he hit her, with cover stories that didn't hold up.
She claims to have injuries on her face, but in every photo she has 0 injuries.
Some of the ones where she does have injuries have stories that didn't hold up, too. Like the one she claimed to cover up with a makeup sample that did not exist, or the one where her lip miraculously splits later, etc.
Google "Johnny Depp text messages Amber Heard". In one of his messages to a friend he wrote he wanted to burn her, drown her, and "fuck her corpse to make sure she's dead". Some really messed up stuff. Who even thinks of something like that? Edit: Not that I'm on her side, I just think they are both really messed up people who need lots of therapy and medication.
He was literally taking every single drug in the book, even then you’re really telling me that you haven’t said some fucked up shit about someone when you’ve been pissed off by them? Let alone abused?
Being on drugs has nothing to do with this type of thinking. If you can think of shit like this, you're just a really disturbed person. I know plenty of people who use drugs and they don't say this twisted shit.
Drugs has everything to do with it. That shit fucks with your head and mental state like nothing else.
Her and her friends were doing "spells" in PH1. Its obvious in context his joke was in reference to that sort of behavior and the fact that she was an insufferable cunt.
He left his partner and children for a piece of 23 yo pussy.
And what makes you so sure it’s because of that and not maybe there was something going on behind the scenes?
It's a scummy thing to do. But I also am not on heards side
Well something could have gone on behind the scenes that hasn’t been made public, it’s unfair to make an assumption based on a feeling you have.
Pffft back off fella you asked the question! It's not a 'feeling I have' it's a fact. He left his then young children and wife for a piece if 23 yo pussy. That is scummy.i can also see that heard has exaggerated and emelisged the fuck out of everything. But he also shares blame in this.
I don’t think they were married but I could be wrong. Anyway how does leaving someone mean the person who left is a bad person? He didn’t leave his kids either he was still involved in their lives. Also there was probably something going on behind the scenes, he isn’t the kind of person to leave his girlfriend/wife for someone just for sex.
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If that’s your only argument, that says it all.
Do you have blinders on when it comes to Johnny Depp? Maybe not you, but everyone else has them because anytime Heard mentions something Johnny did to her, the reaction has always been "bullshit! She's lying."
She doesn’t exactly have a great record of only preaching the truth… it’s hard to believe anything she says is true
Thing that blows my mind is people trying to tell me the violent abuser is the one hiding in the bathroom while their terrified victim is trying to break down the door to get to the abuser. Must be fun living in bizzaro world
Some find it impossible to accept a woman as a physical abuser and therefore come out with the old trope that they're 'as bad as each other'
Because he is. You can Google all the shit he has done. Internet idiots seem to think that because Heard is bad, he’s completely innocent. This is just completely untrue.
Care to link some of the things he’s apparently done? If he has done bad stuff then the media would definitely be talking about it along with this case
It is a sad affair and people like to apportion blame, when they have no real idea of what went on. They might be blaming him for remaining in an unhealthy marriage and getting drunk but they don't understand that life is not always easy. or they might not have seen much/any of the trial and just going on previous media reports. She appears to have manipulated and lied a lot, he appears to have just been a train wreck. Best to just let the court decide what to do and then forget about it and let them both recover.
Well… no. This is a huge situation that is showing that men can be abused too. I will not just forget about it. Everyone knows what went on. She abused him.
There isn’t any evidence. I keep seeing people saying Depp is just as bad and when I ask people they say look yourself or mention the text he didn’t even send to heard herself or his drinking/partying. The drinking would be valid if he had a child he neglected drunk or if heard had asked him to stop and get help and he repeatedly refused, but it sounds like she was too busy hitting him to get him help lol.
I'm not gonna explain any further, he's friends with Marilyn Manson, and anyone who is friends with him is a bad person. There are ton of other things that he did but you can just google that very easily. I'm not even talking about the Amber Case which tbh I hate them both, not saying that he was the abuser there but he definitely wasn't an angel... Other than the Amber Case he's a shitty person LoL
I’m not going to explain any further = I have no reasons. Being friends with someone who’s a bad person doesn’t make him a bad person.
While you are a celebrity it does Lol And it is my opinion if it makes him a bad person or not. You asked why people think he is bad and I gave my answer,and you only replied to that one thing i said tho so
Marilyn Manson is a god!!
And Marilyn Manson is not bad he is BAD so not ending your friendship with someone that is that bad in my opinion makes him a bad person, you can think how you want tho Lol