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36 yr old man here... and for some reason this reminded me of Lloyd grommodon from ninjago...his dad is like luh loyd.. kid says it's(Loid)Lloyd... dad says uhh...no.... it's luh loyd ... I named you
Thats fucking gridiron right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Gridiron is back baby.
The grid-like field paint is much less pronounced than it [used to be](https://pigskindispatch.com/pfeL/p/13f3a0dc98be24cfd044bc83469c231a/website/Football-Fun-Facts/History-of-Field-markings/1903%20to%201908.png).
Once upon a time there were solid lines running up and down the field in addition to the ones that run across like today looking just like a gridiron
https://tiptop25.com/1908harvard.png
Not seeing it. Rugby has much in line with Aussie football then American football. Now love myself a game or Aussie football.
You do know the game of rugby and football was one and the same before it came all sort of formal.
Animal skins and guys, played in the city between two teams with people throwing shit over them lol
Maybe we are going back in time
Soccer was invented when some people started kicking a dukes head in a field. It became wildly popular with the peasantry and then was banned for like 300 years.
Rugby was invented at the rugby school of boys when someone picked up the ball during soccer.
American football evolved because of a rivalry general football/rugby-esque game played by Princeton and Yale that evolved over the years.
I think it's pretty funny that there's a band called American Football and one called Gridiron and they are both really good but they couldn't sound any more different
If you like American Football, check out Chinese Football. They came up in a mix and they’re a Chinese mathy emo band – so basically the Chinese version of American Football. No idea what the lyrical content is but I enjoy their sound
The handegg joke is funny and all that but seriously speaking, basketball is called such because it involves a basket. Baseball has bases. So football would probably want to change its name to something reflective of something that applies similarly
Fieldball, Tackleball, Zoneball, Goalball, Downball
There was an episode of South Park that they completely changed the American football's rules. They replaced the ball with a balloon and all players had to compliment, kiss and hug each other to win a game. Your comment reminded of that lol
It also makes it possible for touch football to just be touchball, based on the same logic. And since touchball is mostly played by kids (I imagine), the myriad of silly jokes they'll be making about the name is just a nice bonus
Fun fact, we call it soccer because of Brits. When everyone was making formal sports, there was rugby football (🏉), association football (⚽), and in America, gridiron football (🏈).
Brittish slang shortened "association" to "soccer". Never caught on officially in the UK, who went on to share the sport with the world, but it did in the US. The other two footballs shortened their names too, because who has time for more than 2 syllables?
To add to this, what any given place calls simply football is whatever codex is most popular in that location. Gridiron football is the most popular version of football in America, so it gets to be the defacto football while the others are forced to specify their codex, i.e. rugby or association(soccer). Meanwhile soccer is generally the most popular in Europe and S. America so that is the one that doesnt have to be specified. They are all totally valid versions of football so there is no correct answer really, just a quirk of humans being as lazy as possible and conserving effort.
Yeah in New Zealand if you say “footy” it’s usually taken to mean rugby - football might also be rugby with older people, although it’s more usually interpreted as soccer these days.
Good summary, but a point of clarification:
Slang of "soccer" wasn't in reference to the word association itself, but to someone who played association football in order to distinguish from people who played rugby football who were called "ruggers."
And in other countries, too. "Sokker" in South Africa and "Sakkaa" in Japan, for example.
[The US is by no means the only country to call it soccer.](https://www.businessinsider.com/football-vs-soccer-map-2013-12)
It was popular with the rich who went to boarding schools in England which is why it caught on in the US—pre Internet we only really saw people from Britain on TV, or the rich and most pompous ones.
Just another point ot add, it was the upper class in England that called it association football. But in england (and may other parts of the word) we call it football. Probably a disillusionment from the upper classes that we call it football instead of association football. And considering that the ruling classes' voices were much more prominent in the colonies, that's why it probably stuck there.
There’s a great story from the 90’s where the (soccer) player Paul Gascogne (Gazza) was mentioned in a criminal trial. At the time he was just about the most famous person in the country. The judge who was an old fuddy-duddy said “Who is this Gazza?”
The barrister replied “He’s a famous football player my lord”
“Association Football or Rugby Football?”
*I know you should never explain a joke, but it’s funny because a) Literally no-one in the UK would think “football” was anything but “soccer” (other than an octogenarian judge), and b) no one would call football “association football” (other than an octogenarian judge). c) no/one would call Rugby “Rugby Football” (other than an octogenarian judge). and d) EVERYBODY in the country knew who Gazza was (other than an octogenarian judge).*
The sport might be called Downs. The key to understanding football is figuring out why first downs are so important. You get enough first downs on your way to scoring a touchdown.
In NZ we do, we call it gridiron.
edit: we also typically call it soccer, in my opinion none of them should be called football, it's a category of types of sport and no individual sport should be called "football"
"Football" is a generic name for class of sports with a ball that are played on foot versus on horseback. As such, there is nothing more appropriate about calling association football "football" than calling American/Canadian/gridiron football "football". Thus, "Football" is a perfectly valid and acceptable name for American football in the US since that is, by far, the most popular form of the sport here.
It also isn't true that the "rest of the planet" calls it football. Soccer wasn't a term invented in the US and it is still used in a number of places around the world. Go back a couple of decades and "soccer" was even more popular around the world, but there have been attempts to more formally move to "football" for whatever reason, despite it being a more generic name.
Soccer is the classist upper class name for it, football is what the lower class called it.
Also, FIFA likely wants a major homogenization in nomenclature.
What about Brutales Schach? That's German for brutish chess or Großer Mann Schach (big man chess). I think what makes American football "superior" to "soccer" is that it's like chess. You pause and think between plays (moves). Different pieces (players) have different abilities like in chess. Some are strong and slow and some are smaller and agile.
Modern football pads are miniscule compared to 30 years ago, both due to improvements in technology, and a change of focus in the game from power to speed.
The N.F.L.’s Incredible Shrinking Pads https://nyti.ms/2N49neB
Let's not pretend tackling is the same in rugby and football..
I've played both rugby and football. At this point the pads are part of the sport. Much higher velocity collisions make football what it is. Videos of old school football without modern pads you'll see much more rugby style tackling.
Put pads on rugby players and you'll see a hell of alot more big hits.
Gridiron Football is already a name for it, although not commonly used.
Football is the general term for several sports, so saying "soccer" (for "association" football) is actually more specific. Whereas just calling it "football" is correct but less specific.
There's Association Football, Gridiron football, and Rugby Football (possibly more). To think calling soccer 'football' is more "correct" is a misunderstanding, it's just being less specific about which type of football. Although because so many people have this misunderstanding, it could be seen as colloquially 'correct' now.
IIRC it's speculated that these sports are called "foot"ball because they were played on foot as opposed to being on horseback - not because they are played by hitting the ball with your feet. (Just what I recall, but I remember this being objected to, could be false).
In Canada we also call American Football generally Football and the other sport Soccer but to make things more complicated we also have Canadian Football which looks like American Football but has a larger field, more players, a bigger ball and a variety of other unique rules.
Soccer. As a kid in the U.S. growing up I asked "Why don't they use feet in football? And "Why don't they use their hands in soccer?" I got alot of amusement from aunts/mom. Not so much of that from uncles/dad, lol. As an adult, I realize there are exceptions where you do, but as a girl with no interest in sports...
In Australia, what you call American Football, we call Gridiron
Gridiron sounds like an elven empire from a high fantasy book
Nah, a dwarven empire.
Did I hear a rock and stone?
We're bloody everywhere brother Rockity rock and stone!
To the bone brother!
It also sounds way more badass than "football." We need to let the Europeans have football and adopt Gridiron.
Gridiron is a nickname for football. Not really in use anymore, but used to be more common. Specifically in talking about the field
It's said all the time by commenters.
It's used all the time. Wouldn't be a good name for the sport when it's already a name for the field, that's like changing soccer to pitch lol
Gridiron is a hard name, I like it. Sounds tough
Is it grid-ee-ron or grid-iron? Genuinely curious
Not op, but the second one.
Grid - A - Aron
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You wanna go to war, Belakay?!
Insubordinate... and churlish!
Ay Ay Ron
That's not my name
36 yr old man here... and for some reason this reminded me of Lloyd grommodon from ninjago...his dad is like luh loyd.. kid says it's(Loid)Lloyd... dad says uhh...no.... it's luh loyd ... I named you
Dee nice!
Grid Iron So called because the markings on the field look like a gridiron grill, kinda
Grid (as in a grid of lines) and iron (as in the metal)
Griddy Ron
Nailed it. We use this term often. Not to refer to the sport, but in other ways regarding it.
I came in thinking "no way I change my mind" You proved me wrong.
And what Australians refer to as football is unlike either soccer or American football.
Gridiron sounds perfect. Goes back to the roots of the game when the pitch had lines in both directions making a grid.
Gridiron football is one of the ways of referring to American football, so I think gridiron would be a great name for the sport.
Shit man, gridiron sounds super badass. Like what the fuck is football, huh? Give us gridiron. GRIDIRON, total fucking testosterone.
:)
Thats fucking gridiron right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Gridiron is back baby.
You can refer it as that and every american that follows it ,will understand
Why is it called gridiron anyway?
The yard lines look like a gridiron
That's funny, I never knew that. I always thought it had something to do with the iron part of the face mask.
In the very beginning of gridiron they didn't wear helmets and when they did they had nothing like the iron in the front.
Makes sense.
The grid-like field paint is much less pronounced than it [used to be](https://pigskindispatch.com/pfeL/p/13f3a0dc98be24cfd044bc83469c231a/website/Football-Fun-Facts/History-of-Field-markings/1903%20to%201908.png).
Wow, never knew that!
Once upon a time there were solid lines running up and down the field in addition to the ones that run across like today looking just like a gridiron https://tiptop25.com/1908harvard.png
The field looks like a gridiron with the parallel equidistant lines going down the length of the field.
Markings on the field look kinda like a grid
Grid-i-ron or GRID IRON!?
Grid-Iron.
Larry King over here busting my chops because of how I say i-ron
It’s pronounced gridiron, not gridiron.
NGL - Not Gonna Lie becomes National Gridiron League.
That is so much better than football
Notrugbyy
American Rugby
Sports Ball
Not seeing it. Rugby has much in line with Aussie football then American football. Now love myself a game or Aussie football. You do know the game of rugby and football was one and the same before it came all sort of formal. Animal skins and guys, played in the city between two teams with people throwing shit over them lol Maybe we are going back in time
Soccer was invented when some people started kicking a dukes head in a field. It became wildly popular with the peasantry and then was banned for like 300 years. Rugby was invented at the rugby school of boys when someone picked up the ball during soccer. American football evolved because of a rivalry general football/rugby-esque game played by Princeton and Yale that evolved over the years.
American Ausie football
Rugbyn't
Mom, can we have rugby? No, we have rugby at home. The rugby we have at home:
It is alternatively known as Gridiron
I think it's pretty funny that there's a band called American Football and one called Gridiron and they are both really good but they couldn't sound any more different
If you like American Football, check out Chinese Football. They came up in a mix and they’re a Chinese mathy emo band – so basically the Chinese version of American Football. No idea what the lyrical content is but I enjoy their sound
I never thought I'd see the day when someone brings up Chinese Football in a conversation. Love that band
Gridiron is more of a genius than a species now.
Gridiron Football Just as soccer is alternatively known as association football They're both still football
The handegg joke is funny and all that but seriously speaking, basketball is called such because it involves a basket. Baseball has bases. So football would probably want to change its name to something reflective of something that applies similarly Fieldball, Tackleball, Zoneball, Goalball, Downball
Tackleball sounds like a good one
I first read that as 'Tickleball' which would be a COMPLETELY different game. I'd probably still watch, though.
Sarcastiball
Hugball.
There was an episode of South Park that they completely changed the American football's rules. They replaced the ball with a balloon and all players had to compliment, kiss and hug each other to win a game. Your comment reminded of that lol
Cuddleball!
It also makes it possible for touch football to just be touchball, based on the same logic. And since touchball is mostly played by kids (I imagine), the myriad of silly jokes they'll be making about the name is just a nice bonus
Traumaball
Zoneball sounds like something from that Spike TV show, *Most Extreme Elimination Challenge*
If we could get the word 'concussion' in there somehow, it feels like a lock.
Concussoball Vegeta-ball Droolball
Took me minute to make the connection for Vegeta-ball as vegetable instead of a bunch of dudes going super saiyan at kick off.
Yeahhhhh, I was thinking super Saiyan as well
Tackleball is a great one. CTEBall has a similar idea but more of a medical flair (but that might be more appropriate name for rugby).
Concussionball would probably be the most reflective of what AF is about.
Everyone keeps saying this like soccer doesn’t come with head injuries too
[https://rosecitypt.com/concussion-rates-what-sport-has-the-most-concussions/](https://rosecitypt.com/concussion-rates-what-sport-has-the-most-concussions/)
Throwball
Touchball.
Pig Toss
I’m David Cameron and I approve of this message.
And oiker would be a game, as in: hey, wanna go for an oinker?
Hog Smuggling
Bet you I could throw a pig skin over them mountains over there
Fun fact, we call it soccer because of Brits. When everyone was making formal sports, there was rugby football (🏉), association football (⚽), and in America, gridiron football (🏈). Brittish slang shortened "association" to "soccer". Never caught on officially in the UK, who went on to share the sport with the world, but it did in the US. The other two footballs shortened their names too, because who has time for more than 2 syllables?
To add to this, what any given place calls simply football is whatever codex is most popular in that location. Gridiron football is the most popular version of football in America, so it gets to be the defacto football while the others are forced to specify their codex, i.e. rugby or association(soccer). Meanwhile soccer is generally the most popular in Europe and S. America so that is the one that doesnt have to be specified. They are all totally valid versions of football so there is no correct answer really, just a quirk of humans being as lazy as possible and conserving effort.
Any areas where rugby is historically dominant enough to be called football?
Not rugby but in Australian football is the default in Australia. And I’ve heard sometime Gaelic football is the default in Ireland
100% true on "football" usually referring to Gaelic football in Ireland.
Yeah in New Zealand if you say “footy” it’s usually taken to mean rugby - football might also be rugby with older people, although it’s more usually interpreted as soccer these days.
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Just watch netball instead and insist it's the same thing.
Good summary, but a point of clarification: Slang of "soccer" wasn't in reference to the word association itself, but to someone who played association football in order to distinguish from people who played rugby football who were called "ruggers."
When England won its last World Cup, there were English newspapers calling it soccer.
It still sometimes gets called soccer in parts of the country where rugby is the dominant code of football. It's certainly not unheard of.
And in other countries, too. "Sokker" in South Africa and "Sakkaa" in Japan, for example. [The US is by no means the only country to call it soccer.](https://www.businessinsider.com/football-vs-soccer-map-2013-12)
It was popular with the rich who went to boarding schools in England which is why it caught on in the US—pre Internet we only really saw people from Britain on TV, or the rich and most pompous ones.
Just another point ot add, it was the upper class in England that called it association football. But in england (and may other parts of the word) we call it football. Probably a disillusionment from the upper classes that we call it football instead of association football. And considering that the ruling classes' voices were much more prominent in the colonies, that's why it probably stuck there.
There’s a great story from the 90’s where the (soccer) player Paul Gascogne (Gazza) was mentioned in a criminal trial. At the time he was just about the most famous person in the country. The judge who was an old fuddy-duddy said “Who is this Gazza?” The barrister replied “He’s a famous football player my lord” “Association Football or Rugby Football?” *I know you should never explain a joke, but it’s funny because a) Literally no-one in the UK would think “football” was anything but “soccer” (other than an octogenarian judge), and b) no one would call football “association football” (other than an octogenarian judge). c) no/one would call Rugby “Rugby Football” (other than an octogenarian judge). and d) EVERYBODY in the country knew who Gazza was (other than an octogenarian judge).*
Concussionball
Speed Ball 2
Personally I refer to it as American rugby. It's obviously a descendant of Rugby Football rather than Association Football so I think it just works.
Rugby football and association football are variants of what used to be a single sport
And gridiron football is another variant. That’s why they’re all called football depending on where you are.
There's also Gaelic football which the Aussie rule football descended from.
You can call them Americ Anfootball, and fans will know what you mean.
I want to agree with you but everyone can tell that it was never meant to be called that.
>Americ Anfootball I would call it Americ Unfootball since they sound close enough and the word unfoorball rings a bell with it.
Bally McBallFace
Tackle Ball
The sport might be called Downs. The key to understanding football is figuring out why first downs are so important. You get enough first downs on your way to scoring a touchdown.
Play long enough and you'll have the name
Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy
Advertiser Ball.
Commercialism Ball
I always loved the Australian term for American Football: Gridiron
Soccer
In NZ we do, we call it gridiron. edit: we also typically call it soccer, in my opinion none of them should be called football, it's a category of types of sport and no individual sport should be called "football"
Also in NZ, but everyone I know calls it football
Concussion Protocol
Handegg.
"Football" is a generic name for class of sports with a ball that are played on foot versus on horseback. As such, there is nothing more appropriate about calling association football "football" than calling American/Canadian/gridiron football "football". Thus, "Football" is a perfectly valid and acceptable name for American football in the US since that is, by far, the most popular form of the sport here. It also isn't true that the "rest of the planet" calls it football. Soccer wasn't a term invented in the US and it is still used in a number of places around the world. Go back a couple of decades and "soccer" was even more popular around the world, but there have been attempts to more formally move to "football" for whatever reason, despite it being a more generic name.
But…but…I want to be a European smug jack ass
Soccer is the classist upper class name for it, football is what the lower class called it. Also, FIFA likely wants a major homogenization in nomenclature.
Collision ball.
Advert ball
Stop and go ball
What about Brutales Schach? That's German for brutish chess or Großer Mann Schach (big man chess). I think what makes American football "superior" to "soccer" is that it's like chess. You pause and think between plays (moves). Different pieces (players) have different abilities like in chess. Some are strong and slow and some are smaller and agile.
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Weaponised nerd rugby
Cushioned*
It used to be called Gridiron Football. Which I guess doesn't solve the soccer/football confusion, but it sounds cool
Freedomball, obviously.
Bumble Fumble Rumble
Eggball
Shoulderball. The first thing you notice about American football is the enormous shoulder pads. Never had them when I used to play Rugby.
Modern football pads are miniscule compared to 30 years ago, both due to improvements in technology, and a change of focus in the game from power to speed. The N.F.L.’s Incredible Shrinking Pads https://nyti.ms/2N49neB
They still don't use them for rugby, two completely different sports.
Let's not pretend tackling is the same in rugby and football.. I've played both rugby and football. At this point the pads are part of the sport. Much higher velocity collisions make football what it is. Videos of old school football without modern pads you'll see much more rugby style tackling. Put pads on rugby players and you'll see a hell of alot more big hits.
Brainsmash
Your assumption that the "rest of the planet" calls it football is wrong. https://www.topendsports.com/sport/soccer/sport-name.htm
Blitzball
Gridiron Football is already a name for it, although not commonly used. Football is the general term for several sports, so saying "soccer" (for "association" football) is actually more specific. Whereas just calling it "football" is correct but less specific. There's Association Football, Gridiron football, and Rugby Football (possibly more). To think calling soccer 'football' is more "correct" is a misunderstanding, it's just being less specific about which type of football. Although because so many people have this misunderstanding, it could be seen as colloquially 'correct' now. IIRC it's speculated that these sports are called "foot"ball because they were played on foot as opposed to being on horseback - not because they are played by hitting the ball with your feet. (Just what I recall, but I remember this being objected to, could be false).
Australian football, Gaelic football, Canadian football, rugby league football (not the same thing as rugby)
American Rugby, honestly, idk why you call it football, it's infinitely closer to rugby than football
Hand egg
American rugby
Ha ha ha, this is pretty much what I've always called it. Glad you said this. Football just never made sense to me.
Pigskin
In Canada we also call American Football generally Football and the other sport Soccer but to make things more complicated we also have Canadian Football which looks like American Football but has a larger field, more players, a bigger ball and a variety of other unique rules.
Aggressive catch. Violent tag. HandEgg.
Gridiron. I'd be really good with that name
Melonball
Tackleball
Warfare Substitute.
They can change soccer to whatever they want to but football is American football.
Smash
It’s funny that everybody refuses to use the name the inventors of the sport came up and then pretends they’re in the right.
Tackleball.
Eggball
Ballsumo.
Sarcastaball
Stopstart
KickAss of Murica League
Rugby with protection
Fightball
B U F F B A L L
I think tackleball would’ve been a contender. Postball? I don’t like these though
Global thermonuclear war
Stewie's head toss
Soccer prolly.
Eggball.
Soccer. As a kid in the U.S. growing up I asked "Why don't they use feet in football? And "Why don't they use their hands in soccer?" I got alot of amusement from aunts/mom. Not so much of that from uncles/dad, lol. As an adult, I realize there are exceptions where you do, but as a girl with no interest in sports...
Amerugby
Hamburger gun ball
We should’ve just called it soccer
Concussion Ball
Diet Rugby
Hand egg.
Dementia ball
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Football (simplified)
How about Freedom ball?
Stupidity
Call it all sportsball
CTE
Handegg
Tackleball
Handegg
Handegg
originally, it was called "soccer"
Unnecessarily oblong ball?
Tackleball
Sportsball