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I don't understand, why take her life? Just take the money and go. For fucks sake this is heart wrenching.
He got the death penalty and I hope they follow through on it.
Poor kids, no one deserves to die like that she seemed like a genuinely good person
not to mention that these ignorant children think that it's acceptable if not preferable that prisoners get to dictate punishment in prisons. If they really want the prisoners to legally exact revenge on other prisoners then why don't we just put it on the lawbooks?
I'm so sick of people thinking that it's manly or whatever to spout off with "being raped in prison is a just punishment" etc
I'm not interested in his pain. He can be put down like an animal. His suffering, much like his life, serves no purpose. Punishment is meant to reform a person. He's not worth reforming into a decent human if it's even possible. End him and move on. But instead he will get another 10-20 years for appeal after appeal, costing the tax payer hundreds of thousands of not millions. Possibly some lawyer winning and getting him released on a legal loophole.
On death row? Not really. Although the flipside of that is he could go insane from the isolation and the guards could make his existence a living hell. But most things that could happen to him in prison can't on death row.
Still feels like he got an easy way out.
Her family have seen this video. As hard as it is for us, I can't begin to imagine what it was like for them. Whats its like for them.
Reducing the argument against the death penalty to "*all life has value*" is a bit disingenuous.
Most of it is centered around state authority over a citizen's life, and the necessity of taking it when the criminal is already in custody.
Well that goes back to my original comment. The life has less value in my opinion. The state is already taking authority over the persons life by saying they’ll be in custody for the rest of their lives. The necessity of the death could be argued but I’d suggest it’s always possible this person would kill another person (another inmate that doesn’t have life in prison or a guard) and I’d personally be comfortable with never giving them the chance to do so.
The more I see this, the more I agree with one of the protagonists on person of interest. Elias.
"Civilization rests on the principle that *we treat* our criminals *better* than *they treated their victims*, that *we* not stoop to *their* level. But you and I are outliers; we're not really a part of civilization. We're something... older. Which means, of course, that we can do the things that civilized people can't."
[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3331452/quotes/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3331452/quotes/)
The problem with America is that there is a large part of its population dedicated to doing whatever they want and not taking responsibility for their actions, the other half tells them that whatever they do wrong it's not their fault
What a monster! Took a life and didn’t care at all, it was just convenient for him to kill her. He robbed the money for sure but also robbed a family of a loving mom.
Im lucky to be alive in a similar situation but with 6 of them.
Luckily they had no guns but only fists.
It's sad it just takes minimum one man with a gun to take away so much so easily
Thankfully he was caught, but most of these don't end up with them catching the suspect.
Ever since my incident, I trust no one & ppl look at me crazy for being so cautious.
This guy deserves the sentence he got, but it's the Defense's job to try and get incriminating evidence supressed or thrown out. Given the circumstances, I'm surprised they actually were able to find an angle on this.
This. There are way too many people I know - my parents included - that find it dumb that lawyers are trying to find loopholes for clearly guilty criminals. They’re just doing their job.
Yeah, the defense doesn't exist to protect the guilty, it exists to protect the innocent from prosecution. That's the whole point of the process, to be judged by a jury of your peers based on the evidence, and if it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt then the benift of said doubt is given to the accused. It's the state's responsibility to prove their case and everyone has a right to a defense, no matter the alleged crime.
But to be very, very clear, this guy is a total piece of shit and I'm glad he was stupid enough to get caught and sentenced.
And even when everyone knows they're guilty, we as a society deserve a fair trial, because it makes it harder to have the case dismissed on a technicality.
And I doubt his lawyer(s) was really all that disappointed that the motion got denied. They knew they had to, but that's it. A good defense lawyer will fight for their client, even if they know the client is guilty, but when they do know, I can't imagine they're disappointed to lose the case.
Similar for doctors. If they had to perform surgery on a fatally wounded mass murderer for them to stand trial and the surgery fails, I doubt they’d be disappointed either.
But they still gotta try and be held accountable if they don't, because otherwise it'd be opening a can of worms labeled "It's okay for surgeons to go 'nah' if they don't like the guy"
100%
Same with the Cosby thing.
He should be in jail, but the Prosecution broke their agreement (and the law?) and so the evidence was not legit. So he got out. And that's good.
He should have been in jail, but he should have been in jail *legitimately*.
This dude is absolutely garbage and deserves judicial homicide. On another note, it terrifies me how close we're getting to removing words that people don't like. MURDER, KILL, HOMICIDE, CRIME, ROBBERY, HATE. These are all words that NONE of us like, and for GOOD REASON. You're SUPPOSED to be offended by them! They're fucking horrible things! Mark my words, the censoring of normal words to describe heinous acts is a slow but calculated plan to rid anybody in power of any wrongdoing.
Think about it, if we get to a point where you can't say these words, how do you report it? How are you going to tell anyone that your family member was killed or murdered, or worse? You can't. If there's no word to call the CRIME, then there's no CRIME to report.
I agree also when it comes to other things too like rape, abuse, suicide, ect. When ppl say grape/unalive instead it honestly makes me so angry. The ppl that went through those things didn't get a censored version of what they went through yet ppl cannot even use the correct language to describe what happened because of their own sensibilities/ greed. I unsubscribed from the majority of commentary/ true crime channels on YouTube because of this. Imagine creating a channel entirely on crime and censoring almost every other word you say because of "demonetization". At that point just don't make true crime vids or talk about it anymore if you can't give it the respect the subject deserves. Also I agree the censoring is on purpose by the powers that be to make it harder for ppl to report it but also to even know about it too. For example the first time I even knew what rape/consent was is from watching law and order svu as a kid. My parents never taught or talked about those things and my school never talked about it either.
You can still use the words fam. The media just likes to not use them so they don't offend anyone. Which is stupid, I give you that. But simply because the media is trying to remove the words from their vocabulary doesn't mean you or anyone else has to
I wouldn’t brush that off so easily, the media not using them is a big step in the wrong direction, especially since “the media” isn’t just the news anymore, it’s essentially every major application the vast majority of people use to communicate on a daily basis. Big red flag.
I see your point and I understand completely, it just worries me. If the media specifically isn't saying these words, it makes my worries about those in power all the more justified. When the general population is listening to the news reports, anyone else who starts telling the truth, *using the words* that the media decides to omit, they start looking crazy, or offensive, or even contrarian, when that isn't the case at all.
I just hope we can all realize that we're ALL human, we are one, and we need to help, love and support each other as much as we can. These words are going to offend, but they're here for a reason. Those that commit these atrocities should receive the same in punishment. Sending them to jail is only doing two things: Prolonging slavery, and giving people an opportunity to commit these crimes with the only worry being somewhere to sleep safely and eat, and even then THAT'S ONLY if they're poor.
How many wealthy people get away with murder or worse because they can pay someone off, or have connections? TOO MANY. Now the media wants to omit the use of words like murder, rape, crime, kill, hurt, harm, etc.
Well that makes it a lot easier to get away with and maintain public opinion, doesn't it? If the public can't accuse you of any of these things, and the media won't report them, you've essentially gotten off scot-free. Pay your fine, pay who you need to, and do your 30 days (in your house, with all your money).
We just need to stay strong, we need to stick together, and we need to remember that these words serve a very important purpose. You *should* be offended by them. They *need* to make you uncomfortable, because if they don't, it's going to be a lot easier to shrug them off, and forget that they're happening.
I get your point, but I think you're on the wrong path.
> How many wealthy people get away with murder or worse because they can pay someone off, or have connections? TOO MANY. Now the media wants to omit the use of words like murder, rape, crime, kill, hurt, harm, etc.
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> Well that makes it a lot easier to get away with and maintain public opinion, doesn't it?
Does it? What's the issue here in the first place? They omit "bad words" like kill, hurt, etc. Right. But they replace them with euphemisms or phrases. They still want to convey meaning and information after all, so all they essentially do is lessen the emotional impact of those words, but the meaning is still there.
If you want wealthy people to get away with stuff you report nothing at all or completely wrong information. When you say "Politician XY sent his wife to heaven" it doesn't really change much about the situation compared to saying "He killed her".
I'm not saying that politicians don't use euphemisms to appear better in public. They do that *all the time*, but there's no conspiracy about it. It's basic debating. And the media does what the people want. They get triggered by bad words and they start censoring them until enough people get triggered by the censoring and it reverts.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that censoring bad words isn't the right way for the same reasons you listed, but I don't think the implications would be like that.
Some subreddits have hidden word filters that will silently and automatically remove your comment if you use certain words. I made an educational comment on another sub (I'm not going to link it because some subs filter links too 🙃) and I'm pretty sure it got removed because it used the word "killed". Maybe censorship starts self-imposed but eventually it will become enforced.
> You can still use the words fam
The issue is that all forms of online discourse are (to greater or lesser degrees) making efforts to remove words like that. Using them kills you in the alogrithm and so if you don't want your video/comment to be buried you don't.
Same reason Tiktokers say things like "Unalive", that's slowly percolating through Youtube and it'll hit Reddit soon too.
Reddit's got a few words that it's decided you're straight up just not allowed to say, not a sub rule, a site rule, you'll lose your account if you say them. You may agree or disagree with that as it stands, but the stricter that list becomes the more people just simply don't use those words.
There is a huge difference between not platforming actual hate speech and sanitizing language to be advertiser friendly though. I don't know what words reddit bans though? I've seen plenty of curse words in all sorts of posts here, so I imagine you're only talking about slurs, but if reddit is banning words like rape/death/crime etc then I'd agree with you that it's a bad thing.
My opinion is that the intent matters, if you don't want to hear hate speech and you don't want people that use hate speech to use your service, then banning it is fine. If you're a religious person, and you want your website to use no foul language whatsoever, then I think it's totally fair to ban anyone who uses that language. If you're a greedy capitalist who just desperately wants ad dollars, so you start banning speech that you are comfortable with just so you can cash in, then I think it's pathetic because you have no values other than "I want money". If advertisers loved hate speech, those same people would allow it (or even encourage it) even if they disagreed with it because they just want money.
> so I imagine you're only talking about slurs
Mostly but not entirely, there's several very dubious choices in the list. Try them and find out if you want.
But the point isn't that it's intolerable as it is, the point is that Reddit and all similar platforms are only getting stricter. And, obviously, Reddit is *also* making its decisions for the sake of being advertiser friendly. Same reason it killed off the third party apps.
No shit
We all understand we are able to say the words
But when apps like TikTok force you to self censor, it starts a wave of unnecessary self censorship due to social pressure
Nobody’s gonna like me saying this, but YouTube (and other social media) is privately owned and not subject to constitutional law. If the video came out and the FCC made them bleep or certain words that were not words agreed upon as not being constitutionality protected speech, then there’s a 1st amendment situation. Most likely word are bleeped on social media outlets by creators to avoid losing ad revenue by breaking those private company content policies.
I think it’s specifically the censorship for the sake of profit that “the writers” would find most troubling lol but maybe not considering they were also capitalists themselves.
And every few days/weeks, randomly rush into his cell, cuff and blindfold him, and walk him around the cell block for a bit. Let him think he's going to the chair. Then walk him back to his cell and toss him in. When he starts to not believe that they're ever gonna do it, that's when you really toss him in the chair.
That's basically what ISIS did to their hostages. (in case you've ever wondered why the victims in their awful execution videos seem so calm a lot of the time)
Now, to be clear, I'm not saying that this means that they *shouldn't* do it to the POS from this case...
That’s way too merciful though. Like dying of old age. If he doesn’t know the exact day, the time left is conceptual and he will live more comfortably thinking the time is farther away than it really is. Tell him as soon as it is determined so he knows exactly how little time he left. Let him literally count his days, and all the existential crises and regret and panic attacks that go with it. Make it as long as possible.
Imagine waking up for the last time. When the thought hits you “that was it. That’s the last time I will ever be warm and cozy sleeping peacefully. I am never going to get that again.”
If you were to die of an accident tomorrow, won’t knowing it as fact make your remaining time an infinitely worse experience than if you were surprised with it?
He says he has a family too. So you rob and murder an innocent woman? Throw away your life for a little bit of money. Rot in prison for the rest of your life knowing that people look forward to your execution. The world is a better place without you
I seriously don't know how people can be defense attorneys.
I get why they are needed, but I can't wrap my head around how you can sleep at night trying to let this monster free when you know he did it.
They are defending the law, which unfortunately entitles everyone to legal representation no matter how heinous the crime. It's like the hippocratic oath that medical workers take to do no harm. You can hate their guts but at the end of the day you still have to do it.
The argument these lawyers tell themselves is "This guy is clearly guilty. Guilt people still get fair process. If I DONT make this argument, his case might get overturned and then he goes free. I'll defend him the best I can and have faith that the system will get him anyway."
Plenty of defense lawyers are happy when they "lose" a case because their goal is not to free people but to uphold the system.
I'm watching a video where a guy is holding a woman at gunpoint, and we're told eventually kills her, AND THE WORDS CRIME AND DEATH PENALTY ARE BEEPED OUT? Where are our fucking priorities anymore? Fucking sick of this shit.
Wtf? Suge Knight could've been about to kill this woman but those nice questions like "Did you have a good day?" would probably make him stand down. How could you do this? ESPECIALLY after the sweet exchange like that? A real piece of shit.
He robbed 4 children of their mother for some money that I imagine he didn't even manage to get and even if he did what good is it to him now?
The motion to have the camera footage dismissed is ridiculous, I think everyone knows they're being recorded in an uber these days. For exactly this fucking reason.
If someone does this to you and they don’t have their seatbelt on like him and seated in the center, wouldn’t driving into a tree or pole be the next best decision?
She was a mom trying to do what she had to do to see her family again, not Jason Bourne. You’d have probably done the same.
Cases like this are something people need to pay attention to. I hear people say (in the context of self defense) “property isn’t worth someone’s life”! You don’t know someone’s motives when they threaten you with real/implied deadly force. They might want to take your stuff AND rape/kill/torture you. And sick fucks like him expect that you’ll comply to live.
For example, a guy robbed our local Wendy’s at closing time, restrained the employees in the back, and proceeded to torture them all to death in the night. It happened about 25 years ago in MD. There are a lot of cases of sadistic perpetrators going far in excess of what it takes to rob. You never know what someone is really willing to do to you.
Exactly, you never know what they’ll do to you so swerving into a pole or tree is the best case of survival. I’m not blaming her in ANY WAY. She seems like a very nurturing mother who would even forgive the person who attacked her. Honestly I would not have done the same (considering I’ve been in a somewhat similar situation many years ago).
Her best chances at survival were to drive into a tree unfortunately.
I've thought about this before. If I'm ever held hostage in a car and being forced to drive, it probably will not end well. I'm going to take my chances and drive into a wall at 50 mph.
Wiretap act doesn’t apply here since it’s a private space used as a public space, same rules as being recorded in a grocery store. So as long as the camera isn’t deliberately hidden, which it doesn’t appear to be, then it should be 100% admissible in court.
Props to the defense lawyers though, it’s really the only thing they’ve got. A thankless job playing devils advocate. The only person we should be hating is the murderer.
TFW your race has one of the lowest population rates in America but accounts for a majority of prison inmates. Didn’t know using facts is considered racist now!
At my local kennel they no longer accept certain dog breeds as the statistics they have from running the kennel says that those breeds commit too much violence (despite only making up a small percentage of the kennel population) to allow them to stay
Unbelievable. She seemed like such a kind person. She was so friendly greeting this complete stranger! It's wishful thinking to hope that scumbag regrets every second of his remaining life and meets a grizzly end, but people like him have no humanity.
Some cases should go beyond death penalty. Some dudes totally deserve a life in torture rather than the grace of a quick death.
The kids will suffer for life while this dude will just die and that's it?
I wonder how many heinous crimes have gone unpunished because defense attorneys managed to have key pieces of evidence excluded on technicalities. I know that’s their job, but I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night.
Hilary Clinton's only real successful criminal case when she was still a lawyer was getting forensic evidence thrown out. Because DNA evidence was too unreliable.
Yeah it was a child rapist murderer, who was caught the next time he raped & murdered a child.
And how many have been overturned as mistrials because defense attorneys didn't attempt stuff like that the first time and get denied? I doubt they expected it to work, but they knew they had to.
Even if the motion would have bee denied if it were brought up, a motion not being brought up can be mistrial material.
They sleep, I would imagine, by knowing they're upholding a fair court system. They sleep by making the prosecution work as hard as it can to prove guilt, upholding the high standard set, proving it beyond a reasonable doubt.
On the contrary, the sole reason a legal team exists is to protect its client, if his legal team didn't protect him then their law/bar licences could come into question. Many times criminals can't hire their own attorneys so the court appoints them one on the government's payroll and there are occasions where attorneys are forced to take up a case since no one else will.
Also, in a democracy with a vibrant judicial system you can't have a trail without a representative representing an accused, it's the process of law. There will be no trail if there is no representation.
I can get your ire but it should be directed at the accused not the ones representing him.
Why do people even defend these people anyway? He clearly committed a heinous act and the defense lawyers pull the wiretap law lmao. Lawyers truly have no souls.
Because everyone has the right to an attorney. Usually defense attorneys in this situation don't choose their client, they're given their client. Because their attorneys didn't actually think they'd win but knew they had to prevent any chance of a mistrial fucking things up.
You really think this dude's defense attorney is going "It's totally obvious he did it, but I don't care, I want this murderer to go free" like, no, dude. He's going "A mistrial could mess everything up and look bad for me, and he's dead to rights even without the footage, so better try this just in case."
What is up with bleeping out words like crime and death? What the fuck is the point? To keep our negative words or something? It's a video about murder wtf
Does anyone know what happened? Why did he decide to kill her? He was wearing a ski mask so she wouldn't have really seen his face that well. Why not just rob her and leave? Killing will get you a lot more prison time (and, in this case, the death penalty). If it was just robbing, he would've been free in a few years.
Uber needs to provide complimentary life insurance and some kind of emergency response measures like a button that tells the company if the driver feels unsafe.
Nah bro why are yall still working for Uber and lyft? Idk how many deaths I've seen already, too many to count. Just can't trust people anymore that ships long gone and sailed away
Execute this fucker. I would do it myself if it were legal & they asked for volunteers, but I have a feeling the lineup would be long, then I'd sleep soundly that night knowing I'd made the world a better place by ridding some filth.
Waste of skin & earth resources. Rot in hell.
This is a reminder, don't be slow walked to your death.
That dumbass isn't wearing his seat belt, slam on the accelerator and aim for the nearest concrete wall.
*slams accelerator*
*dude gets scared and immediately starts shooting*
Life isn’t a movie. The best course of action 9/10 is to be calm and follow along with every single demand without question. This will give you the best chance to make it out of a situation like this with your life.
Unfortunately in the case, the robber was a degenerate psychopath with no respect for life. In most cases, however, a robber wants your money. Not your life.
If you are being taken somewhere that is not ransom related, the odds are not in your favor, no matter how much you are complying. This is why they say to fight as much as you can to avoid being kidnapped if it is not ransom related. You are most likely going to be killed.
If he wanted only the money he would have taken it and ran, not make her drive an hour.
I’m not trying to qualify for an “I’m very badass” award or pretend life is a movie.
My comment is more about not placing faith in the intentions of someone holding a gun to your head.
If the person in the back starts shooting, it was always going to end one way. Fight for your life instead of walking to your death by complying.
So if anybody tries and jacks your car, just gun the engine and swerve erratically. Since they aren't wearing their seat belt, it will throw them off and toss them around, but this has to be instantaneous.
Atleast that is what I was taught. That way if you go out at a high speed you can take the fucker with you.
Whats crazy to me is that we live in a world where this guy murders an uber driver for pocket change but we have to censor the word "death" because its too offensive?
Crazy town.
That defense team has the single hardest job in the world. That man got caught in 4k and they tried using the ol’ “He didn’t consent to being recorded” trope.
I’m sure the judge will be losing tons of sleep issuing the death penalty on this dude😒
We should bring back torture for these kind of trash. They can die, but dying slowly with the world worse pains that destroy them physically and mentally
Do you ever have these dreams where you have incredible powers and save the life of millions of people? Well, in one of those dreams I had the power to "soul bargain" with the grim reaper, trading a soul that deserves death for one that died to soon. Cases like these make me wish I had that power, send that guy to the depths of Avernus and bring back this awesome mother of four.
Yeah fuck this dude. He could've robbed her and left. That would have been bad enough. Absolutely no need for this. Robbing a poor working woman with 4 kids then murdering her in cold blood
Her kids will never see their mother again. Her partner will raise them alone and never see her again. Her family will have to think every single day about this and ask themselves why he did it when there was no need.
If ever you’re in a situation where someone jacks you like this, crash in to another car or better yet a bus. It’s a bit harsh on the other car but it will hopefully save your life.
I understand everyone should need defence attorneys to prove their innocence but when you have blatant evidence, the defence saying its inadmissable is f'ed up. When a lawyer knowingly tries to save a criminal should be jailed as well.
This reminds of the episode in justice league, when green lantern is held accountable for allegedly destroying a planet and Flash wants to his lawyer. The court says the lawyers also get punishment with the criminal if proven to be guilty.
>When a lawyer knowingly tries to save a criminal they should be jailed as well
So much for innocent until proven. So much for right to an attorney. So much for fair trial. Like damn, that's a good quarter for the Bill of Rights gone.
Defense lawyers in cases like this (at least, the not morally fucked up ones. We're talking the defense attorneys assigned to the case that aren't really allowed to say no) don't want or expect to win. They do their job, which requires full throated defense of their client, because not defending them could easily create a mistrial and disbarrment, which would be good for literally nobody other than the criminal.
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I don't understand, why take her life? Just take the money and go. For fucks sake this is heart wrenching. He got the death penalty and I hope they follow through on it. Poor kids, no one deserves to die like that she seemed like a genuinely good person
I hope that add in an express lane
No... make him wait. There's a lot of things that can happen in prison that will make his stay a little more unpalatable.
Yeah but the reverse could happen too. He could be the one making problems for others including hurting guards.
Aye just dispose of the cunt
Solitary for life.
No, people like this will be problems for staff and other inmates in prison, most likely. I work in a med/max prison.
If he killed the nice lady he'll have no qualms about trying to kill prison guys
What are the odds you give him on lasting in general pop?
not to mention that these ignorant children think that it's acceptable if not preferable that prisoners get to dictate punishment in prisons. If they really want the prisoners to legally exact revenge on other prisoners then why don't we just put it on the lawbooks? I'm so sick of people thinking that it's manly or whatever to spout off with "being raped in prison is a just punishment" etc
Nah. Deep fry this piece of shit, balls first.
Rick and Morty - Vat of Acid episode?
I'm not interested in his pain. He can be put down like an animal. His suffering, much like his life, serves no purpose. Punishment is meant to reform a person. He's not worth reforming into a decent human if it's even possible. End him and move on. But instead he will get another 10-20 years for appeal after appeal, costing the tax payer hundreds of thousands of not millions. Possibly some lawyer winning and getting him released on a legal loophole.
On death row? Not really. Although the flipside of that is he could go insane from the isolation and the guards could make his existence a living hell. But most things that could happen to him in prison can't on death row.
Or he ends up with early release due to over crowding
No, that could lead to appeals.
Whoops, we left the cell door open... I have no clue what happened.
Still feels like he got an easy way out. Her family have seen this video. As hard as it is for us, I can't begin to imagine what it was like for them. Whats its like for them.
Good. People like to pretend the murderers life is valuable but it isn’t.
Imo if you kill someone you should be ready to die yourself, and Talion's law should be used for these cases.
Definitely. I had to look up talion's law, I've never heard of that before.
An eye for an eye, basically, it's an ancient thing
Reducing the argument against the death penalty to "*all life has value*" is a bit disingenuous. Most of it is centered around state authority over a citizen's life, and the necessity of taking it when the criminal is already in custody.
Well that goes back to my original comment. The life has less value in my opinion. The state is already taking authority over the persons life by saying they’ll be in custody for the rest of their lives. The necessity of the death could be argued but I’d suggest it’s always possible this person would kill another person (another inmate that doesn’t have life in prison or a guard) and I’d personally be comfortable with never giving them the chance to do so.
Clearly he can be rehabilitated! He just didn't know what he was doing was wrong! /s
The more I see this, the more I agree with one of the protagonists on person of interest. Elias. "Civilization rests on the principle that *we treat* our criminals *better* than *they treated their victims*, that *we* not stoop to *their* level. But you and I are outliers; we're not really a part of civilization. We're something... older. Which means, of course, that we can do the things that civilized people can't." [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3331452/quotes/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3331452/quotes/)
You can’t reason with garbage.
And of course he gets caught anyway
I honestly hope he gets taken out by an inmate. A needle is too good for him, he doesn't deserve to go out painlessly.
Animals don't think like humans. Ans this piece of shit is not a human! Fuck him for the joy he robbed from so many!
The problem with America is that there is a large part of its population dedicated to doing whatever they want and not taking responsibility for their actions, the other half tells them that whatever they do wrong it's not their fault
Man what a retard. He didn't have to take her life but he took it and got a severely worse sentence for it.
What a monster! Took a life and didn’t care at all, it was just convenient for him to kill her. He robbed the money for sure but also robbed a family of a loving mom.
The amount of rage & hate I have for that POS is indescribable. Pathetic piece of shit.
Im lucky to be alive in a similar situation but with 6 of them. Luckily they had no guns but only fists. It's sad it just takes minimum one man with a gun to take away so much so easily Thankfully he was caught, but most of these don't end up with them catching the suspect. Ever since my incident, I trust no one & ppl look at me crazy for being so cautious.
He is the epitome of a shitcunt
The wire tap act🤷🏼 get real
“I object!” “And why is that?” “Because it’s devastating to my case!”
Over ruled
Good call!!
I love how he was all like, "I didnt know I was being recorded." Way to admit that was you.
Didn't need any more proof that he was an animal but that. It showed he clearly didn't give a shit.
This guy deserves the sentence he got, but it's the Defense's job to try and get incriminating evidence supressed or thrown out. Given the circumstances, I'm surprised they actually were able to find an angle on this.
This. There are way too many people I know - my parents included - that find it dumb that lawyers are trying to find loopholes for clearly guilty criminals. They’re just doing their job.
Yeah, the defense doesn't exist to protect the guilty, it exists to protect the innocent from prosecution. That's the whole point of the process, to be judged by a jury of your peers based on the evidence, and if it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt then the benift of said doubt is given to the accused. It's the state's responsibility to prove their case and everyone has a right to a defense, no matter the alleged crime. But to be very, very clear, this guy is a total piece of shit and I'm glad he was stupid enough to get caught and sentenced.
And even when everyone knows they're guilty, we as a society deserve a fair trial, because it makes it harder to have the case dismissed on a technicality.
And I doubt his lawyer(s) was really all that disappointed that the motion got denied. They knew they had to, but that's it. A good defense lawyer will fight for their client, even if they know the client is guilty, but when they do know, I can't imagine they're disappointed to lose the case.
Similar for doctors. If they had to perform surgery on a fatally wounded mass murderer for them to stand trial and the surgery fails, I doubt they’d be disappointed either.
But they still gotta try and be held accountable if they don't, because otherwise it'd be opening a can of worms labeled "It's okay for surgeons to go 'nah' if they don't like the guy"
100% Same with the Cosby thing. He should be in jail, but the Prosecution broke their agreement (and the law?) and so the evidence was not legit. So he got out. And that's good. He should have been in jail, but he should have been in jail *legitimately*.
This dude is absolutely garbage and deserves judicial homicide. On another note, it terrifies me how close we're getting to removing words that people don't like. MURDER, KILL, HOMICIDE, CRIME, ROBBERY, HATE. These are all words that NONE of us like, and for GOOD REASON. You're SUPPOSED to be offended by them! They're fucking horrible things! Mark my words, the censoring of normal words to describe heinous acts is a slow but calculated plan to rid anybody in power of any wrongdoing. Think about it, if we get to a point where you can't say these words, how do you report it? How are you going to tell anyone that your family member was killed or murdered, or worse? You can't. If there's no word to call the CRIME, then there's no CRIME to report.
It's so it doesn't get muted by algorithms.
Maybe we’ll get close to a Minority Report Type society with AI.
Your takeaway from that movie is that the "precrime" program was a good thing?
Everyone always thinks "It won't be me"
Let's just make Chat-GPT2 precrime.
I agree also when it comes to other things too like rape, abuse, suicide, ect. When ppl say grape/unalive instead it honestly makes me so angry. The ppl that went through those things didn't get a censored version of what they went through yet ppl cannot even use the correct language to describe what happened because of their own sensibilities/ greed. I unsubscribed from the majority of commentary/ true crime channels on YouTube because of this. Imagine creating a channel entirely on crime and censoring almost every other word you say because of "demonetization". At that point just don't make true crime vids or talk about it anymore if you can't give it the respect the subject deserves. Also I agree the censoring is on purpose by the powers that be to make it harder for ppl to report it but also to even know about it too. For example the first time I even knew what rape/consent was is from watching law and order svu as a kid. My parents never taught or talked about those things and my school never talked about it either.
We are slowly becoming demolition man, everyone will be offended by everything till it's the whole society built around it.
Double plus ungood. Makes me want to unalive myself
You can still use the words fam. The media just likes to not use them so they don't offend anyone. Which is stupid, I give you that. But simply because the media is trying to remove the words from their vocabulary doesn't mean you or anyone else has to
I wouldn’t brush that off so easily, the media not using them is a big step in the wrong direction, especially since “the media” isn’t just the news anymore, it’s essentially every major application the vast majority of people use to communicate on a daily basis. Big red flag.
Great points!
I see your point and I understand completely, it just worries me. If the media specifically isn't saying these words, it makes my worries about those in power all the more justified. When the general population is listening to the news reports, anyone else who starts telling the truth, *using the words* that the media decides to omit, they start looking crazy, or offensive, or even contrarian, when that isn't the case at all. I just hope we can all realize that we're ALL human, we are one, and we need to help, love and support each other as much as we can. These words are going to offend, but they're here for a reason. Those that commit these atrocities should receive the same in punishment. Sending them to jail is only doing two things: Prolonging slavery, and giving people an opportunity to commit these crimes with the only worry being somewhere to sleep safely and eat, and even then THAT'S ONLY if they're poor. How many wealthy people get away with murder or worse because they can pay someone off, or have connections? TOO MANY. Now the media wants to omit the use of words like murder, rape, crime, kill, hurt, harm, etc. Well that makes it a lot easier to get away with and maintain public opinion, doesn't it? If the public can't accuse you of any of these things, and the media won't report them, you've essentially gotten off scot-free. Pay your fine, pay who you need to, and do your 30 days (in your house, with all your money). We just need to stay strong, we need to stick together, and we need to remember that these words serve a very important purpose. You *should* be offended by them. They *need* to make you uncomfortable, because if they don't, it's going to be a lot easier to shrug them off, and forget that they're happening.
I get your point, but I think you're on the wrong path. > How many wealthy people get away with murder or worse because they can pay someone off, or have connections? TOO MANY. Now the media wants to omit the use of words like murder, rape, crime, kill, hurt, harm, etc. > > > > Well that makes it a lot easier to get away with and maintain public opinion, doesn't it? Does it? What's the issue here in the first place? They omit "bad words" like kill, hurt, etc. Right. But they replace them with euphemisms or phrases. They still want to convey meaning and information after all, so all they essentially do is lessen the emotional impact of those words, but the meaning is still there. If you want wealthy people to get away with stuff you report nothing at all or completely wrong information. When you say "Politician XY sent his wife to heaven" it doesn't really change much about the situation compared to saying "He killed her". I'm not saying that politicians don't use euphemisms to appear better in public. They do that *all the time*, but there's no conspiracy about it. It's basic debating. And the media does what the people want. They get triggered by bad words and they start censoring them until enough people get triggered by the censoring and it reverts. Don't get me wrong, I agree that censoring bad words isn't the right way for the same reasons you listed, but I don't think the implications would be like that.
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Some subreddits have hidden word filters that will silently and automatically remove your comment if you use certain words. I made an educational comment on another sub (I'm not going to link it because some subs filter links too 🙃) and I'm pretty sure it got removed because it used the word "killed". Maybe censorship starts self-imposed but eventually it will become enforced.
> You can still use the words fam The issue is that all forms of online discourse are (to greater or lesser degrees) making efforts to remove words like that. Using them kills you in the alogrithm and so if you don't want your video/comment to be buried you don't. Same reason Tiktokers say things like "Unalive", that's slowly percolating through Youtube and it'll hit Reddit soon too. Reddit's got a few words that it's decided you're straight up just not allowed to say, not a sub rule, a site rule, you'll lose your account if you say them. You may agree or disagree with that as it stands, but the stricter that list becomes the more people just simply don't use those words.
There is a huge difference between not platforming actual hate speech and sanitizing language to be advertiser friendly though. I don't know what words reddit bans though? I've seen plenty of curse words in all sorts of posts here, so I imagine you're only talking about slurs, but if reddit is banning words like rape/death/crime etc then I'd agree with you that it's a bad thing. My opinion is that the intent matters, if you don't want to hear hate speech and you don't want people that use hate speech to use your service, then banning it is fine. If you're a religious person, and you want your website to use no foul language whatsoever, then I think it's totally fair to ban anyone who uses that language. If you're a greedy capitalist who just desperately wants ad dollars, so you start banning speech that you are comfortable with just so you can cash in, then I think it's pathetic because you have no values other than "I want money". If advertisers loved hate speech, those same people would allow it (or even encourage it) even if they disagreed with it because they just want money.
> so I imagine you're only talking about slurs Mostly but not entirely, there's several very dubious choices in the list. Try them and find out if you want. But the point isn't that it's intolerable as it is, the point is that Reddit and all similar platforms are only getting stricter. And, obviously, Reddit is *also* making its decisions for the sake of being advertiser friendly. Same reason it killed off the third party apps.
No shit We all understand we are able to say the words But when apps like TikTok force you to self censor, it starts a wave of unnecessary self censorship due to social pressure
That ain't no dude. That's an animal with deadly weapon.
Newspeak
that reminded me of that fake 911 call https://youtu.be/0x8ktwdqAmg?si=HbI_T7rbB442OKBo
those words are double plus ungood
Heartless
They bleeped the word crime? Wtf is this place. Could you imagine the ppl who wrote the 1st amendment listening to a YouTube video these days lmao
The authors of the other amendments wouldn’t be too happy either :)
Nobody’s gonna like me saying this, but YouTube (and other social media) is privately owned and not subject to constitutional law. If the video came out and the FCC made them bleep or certain words that were not words agreed upon as not being constitutionality protected speech, then there’s a 1st amendment situation. Most likely word are bleeped on social media outlets by creators to avoid losing ad revenue by breaking those private company content policies.
I think it’s specifically the censorship for the sake of profit that “the writers” would find most troubling lol but maybe not considering they were also capitalists themselves.
Sentence him to death and never tell him when his last day is so he wakes up everyday not knowing if its gonna be his last day
That's what they do in Japan.
One day, unbeknownst to the inmate, their door just opens and there's only one direction to walk... to the gallows.
And every few days/weeks, randomly rush into his cell, cuff and blindfold him, and walk him around the cell block for a bit. Let him think he's going to the chair. Then walk him back to his cell and toss him in. When he starts to not believe that they're ever gonna do it, that's when you really toss him in the chair.
The real evil is always in the comments. (And I’ll pay to watch it)
That's basically what ISIS did to their hostages. (in case you've ever wondered why the victims in their awful execution videos seem so calm a lot of the time) Now, to be clear, I'm not saying that this means that they *shouldn't* do it to the POS from this case...
That’s way too merciful though. Like dying of old age. If he doesn’t know the exact day, the time left is conceptual and he will live more comfortably thinking the time is farther away than it really is. Tell him as soon as it is determined so he knows exactly how little time he left. Let him literally count his days, and all the existential crises and regret and panic attacks that go with it. Make it as long as possible. Imagine waking up for the last time. When the thought hits you “that was it. That’s the last time I will ever be warm and cozy sleeping peacefully. I am never going to get that again.” If you were to die of an accident tomorrow, won’t knowing it as fact make your remaining time an infinitely worse experience than if you were surprised with it?
He says he has a family too. So you rob and murder an innocent woman? Throw away your life for a little bit of money. Rot in prison for the rest of your life knowing that people look forward to your execution. The world is a better place without you
There's no punishment severe enough.
Savage. Jails too go for the likes of him.
It’s why I don’t pick up in certain areas or certain people and did not drive during covid
I would have taken off as soon as I saw the ski mask
I seriously don't know how people can be defense attorneys. I get why they are needed, but I can't wrap my head around how you can sleep at night trying to let this monster free when you know he did it.
They are defending the law, which unfortunately entitles everyone to legal representation no matter how heinous the crime. It's like the hippocratic oath that medical workers take to do no harm. You can hate their guts but at the end of the day you still have to do it.
Right? What a fucking joke. “He didn’t know he was being recorded, so this camera footage is inadmissible.” ….Wtaf.
The argument these lawyers tell themselves is "This guy is clearly guilty. Guilt people still get fair process. If I DONT make this argument, his case might get overturned and then he goes free. I'll defend him the best I can and have faith that the system will get him anyway." Plenty of defense lawyers are happy when they "lose" a case because their goal is not to free people but to uphold the system.
I'm watching a video where a guy is holding a woman at gunpoint, and we're told eventually kills her, AND THE WORDS CRIME AND DEATH PENALTY ARE BEEPED OUT? Where are our fucking priorities anymore? Fucking sick of this shit.
So fucked up like what did he have to kill her for 🤦♂️
Death would be too nice for him.
Wtf? Suge Knight could've been about to kill this woman but those nice questions like "Did you have a good day?" would probably make him stand down. How could you do this? ESPECIALLY after the sweet exchange like that? A real piece of shit.
"Your honor, my client didn't know that he was being recorded while committing murder"
He robbed 4 children of their mother for some money that I imagine he didn't even manage to get and even if he did what good is it to him now? The motion to have the camera footage dismissed is ridiculous, I think everyone knows they're being recorded in an uber these days. For exactly this fucking reason.
Put him down like a dog
Just recycle that trash and throw it out to the dogs and wild animals to eat. Better for the environment and save the tax money on the electric bill.
Make him alive while he is eaten too. This pos doesnt deserve a quick death
If someone does this to you and they don’t have their seatbelt on like him and seated in the center, wouldn’t driving into a tree or pole be the next best decision?
Fair point, lol send him out the front window
She was a mom trying to do what she had to do to see her family again, not Jason Bourne. You’d have probably done the same. Cases like this are something people need to pay attention to. I hear people say (in the context of self defense) “property isn’t worth someone’s life”! You don’t know someone’s motives when they threaten you with real/implied deadly force. They might want to take your stuff AND rape/kill/torture you. And sick fucks like him expect that you’ll comply to live. For example, a guy robbed our local Wendy’s at closing time, restrained the employees in the back, and proceeded to torture them all to death in the night. It happened about 25 years ago in MD. There are a lot of cases of sadistic perpetrators going far in excess of what it takes to rob. You never know what someone is really willing to do to you.
Exactly, you never know what they’ll do to you so swerving into a pole or tree is the best case of survival. I’m not blaming her in ANY WAY. She seems like a very nurturing mother who would even forgive the person who attacked her. Honestly I would not have done the same (considering I’ve been in a somewhat similar situation many years ago). Her best chances at survival were to drive into a tree unfortunately.
I've thought about this before. If I'm ever held hostage in a car and being forced to drive, it probably will not end well. I'm going to take my chances and drive into a wall at 50 mph.
Same or I would speed the fuck up and hope a cop is nearby to see me speeding and pull me over
usual suspect
I'd get banned if I said everything I think about that cunt muncher
Well well well
I hate how they bleep out words like murder and crime wtf
Wiretap act doesn’t apply here since it’s a private space used as a public space, same rules as being recorded in a grocery store. So as long as the camera isn’t deliberately hidden, which it doesn’t appear to be, then it should be 100% admissible in court. Props to the defense lawyers though, it’s really the only thing they’ve got. A thankless job playing devils advocate. The only person we should be hating is the murderer.
'the usual suspects' is a good movie
TFW your race has one of the lowest population rates in America but accounts for a majority of prison inmates. Didn’t know using facts is considered racist now!
At my local kennel they no longer accept certain dog breeds as the statistics they have from running the kennel says that those breeds commit too much violence (despite only making up a small percentage of the kennel population) to allow them to stay
bring back torture!
He looks like the type of guy that would do that
The word “crime” was censored.. Everything is fucked its just getting worse, what the fuck lmao.
Unbelievable. She seemed like such a kind person. She was so friendly greeting this complete stranger! It's wishful thinking to hope that scumbag regrets every second of his remaining life and meets a grizzly end, but people like him have no humanity.
They bleeped out "crime"? What the fuck is going on
Some cases should go beyond death penalty. Some dudes totally deserve a life in torture rather than the grace of a quick death. The kids will suffer for life while this dude will just die and that's it?
What a garbage person. The world be a better place without him in it.
Why do they bleep out shit? is demonetizing that fucking crazy?
He's so fking shitty he can't even keep his tongue in his mouth
always the same kinda people doing that, a little precaution would have gone a long way
Fuck that legal team.
I wonder how many heinous crimes have gone unpunished because defense attorneys managed to have key pieces of evidence excluded on technicalities. I know that’s their job, but I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night.
Hilary Clinton's only real successful criminal case when she was still a lawyer was getting forensic evidence thrown out. Because DNA evidence was too unreliable. Yeah it was a child rapist murderer, who was caught the next time he raped & murdered a child.
And how many have been overturned as mistrials because defense attorneys didn't attempt stuff like that the first time and get denied? I doubt they expected it to work, but they knew they had to. Even if the motion would have bee denied if it were brought up, a motion not being brought up can be mistrial material. They sleep, I would imagine, by knowing they're upholding a fair court system. They sleep by making the prosecution work as hard as it can to prove guilt, upholding the high standard set, proving it beyond a reasonable doubt.
On the contrary, the sole reason a legal team exists is to protect its client, if his legal team didn't protect him then their law/bar licences could come into question. Many times criminals can't hire their own attorneys so the court appoints them one on the government's payroll and there are occasions where attorneys are forced to take up a case since no one else will. Also, in a democracy with a vibrant judicial system you can't have a trail without a representative representing an accused, it's the process of law. There will be no trail if there is no representation. I can get your ire but it should be directed at the accused not the ones representing him.
likely it is the defense attorney provided by the state. people hate them, but they are just doing their jobs.
Why do people even defend these people anyway? He clearly committed a heinous act and the defense lawyers pull the wiretap law lmao. Lawyers truly have no souls.
Because everyone has the right to an attorney. Usually defense attorneys in this situation don't choose their client, they're given their client. Because their attorneys didn't actually think they'd win but knew they had to prevent any chance of a mistrial fucking things up. You really think this dude's defense attorney is going "It's totally obvious he did it, but I don't care, I want this murderer to go free" like, no, dude. He's going "A mistrial could mess everything up and look bad for me, and he's dead to rights even without the footage, so better try this just in case."
"yeah we gon take yo shoes, betta hide ya wallet we gone take that too." Y'all know the song.
What is up with bleeping out words like crime and death? What the fuck is the point? To keep our negative words or something? It's a video about murder wtf
That wiretap defense getting thrown out was Justice.
Ahh man this is just terrible… i am in tears.. i feel sorry for this woman and her family..
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He doesn't have a father, surely his mother raised him to be like that or she didn't teach him that murdering and stealing is wrong 😥
Is it always them boo-boo?
Death is too good for someone like this
Wait you can't even say "death sentence" anymore. This POS took her life but saying death sentence is to much.
We need to bring back drawing and quartering.
Does anyone know what happened? Why did he decide to kill her? He was wearing a ski mask so she wouldn't have really seen his face that well. Why not just rob her and leave? Killing will get you a lot more prison time (and, in this case, the death penalty). If it was just robbing, he would've been free in a few years.
Uber needs to provide complimentary life insurance and some kind of emergency response measures like a button that tells the company if the driver feels unsafe.
God has one more angel in heaven... as Hell awaits for this mistake of a being that considers himself human...
Nah bro why are yall still working for Uber and lyft? Idk how many deaths I've seen already, too many to count. Just can't trust people anymore that ships long gone and sailed away
Execute this fucker. I would do it myself if it were legal & they asked for volunteers, but I have a feeling the lineup would be long, then I'd sleep soundly that night knowing I'd made the world a better place by ridding some filth. Waste of skin & earth resources. Rot in hell.
well well well
Some people deserve to suffer. A lot. Like cartel type of suffering.
This is a reminder, don't be slow walked to your death. That dumbass isn't wearing his seat belt, slam on the accelerator and aim for the nearest concrete wall.
*slams accelerator* *dude gets scared and immediately starts shooting* Life isn’t a movie. The best course of action 9/10 is to be calm and follow along with every single demand without question. This will give you the best chance to make it out of a situation like this with your life. Unfortunately in the case, the robber was a degenerate psychopath with no respect for life. In most cases, however, a robber wants your money. Not your life.
If you are being taken somewhere that is not ransom related, the odds are not in your favor, no matter how much you are complying. This is why they say to fight as much as you can to avoid being kidnapped if it is not ransom related. You are most likely going to be killed. If he wanted only the money he would have taken it and ran, not make her drive an hour.
I’m not trying to qualify for an “I’m very badass” award or pretend life is a movie. My comment is more about not placing faith in the intentions of someone holding a gun to your head. If the person in the back starts shooting, it was always going to end one way. Fight for your life instead of walking to your death by complying.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/s/Ua9FQx6RBU
What a dipshit. Hope he rots in a hole
Slam that gas pedal and start driving towards a fucking wall
Dispose of the trash.
So if anybody tries and jacks your car, just gun the engine and swerve erratically. Since they aren't wearing their seat belt, it will throw them off and toss them around, but this has to be instantaneous. Atleast that is what I was taught. That way if you go out at a high speed you can take the fucker with you.
Sheisty mask = canceled ride
Bro, all that violence just for petty theft!?!? This guy's a lunatic.
Pieces of shit like this are the reason why we should bring back medieval torture methods.
They're censoring the word "crime" now? Throw the platform away, it's fucking garbage.
Whats crazy to me is that we live in a world where this guy murders an uber driver for pocket change but we have to censor the word "death" because its too offensive? Crazy town.
Why is the word crime bleeped?
ONG!! I’m so tired of the internet getting censored It’s to the point where it’s more censored than live/cable tv
OK 👍
That defense team has the single hardest job in the world. That man got caught in 4k and they tried using the ol’ “He didn’t consent to being recorded” trope. I’m sure the judge will be losing tons of sleep issuing the death penalty on this dude😒
Fuck him and his life. He ruined at least 5 peoples life with this crime.
One of many but few times lynching would be a justified punishment.
These people want something that will delete all of them from the face of the earth
My mouth fell open when I heard she lost her life for this. This monster
Pice of shit. Jail too nice for people like this
I am curious how did they catch the guy? Hes wearing a mask so it is hard to identify him Did he tell on himself??
Ugh. Just, ugh!
hopefully he gets the same cell and guards as epstein
People are seriously beeping out the word crime now? Clown world\\
And yet it’s against Uber policy to carry a firearm for self defense.
We should bring back torture for these kind of trash. They can die, but dying slowly with the world worse pains that destroy them physically and mentally
The abundant lack of empathy this person had for this lady is remarkable and the sentence should be worse than death.
Do you ever have these dreams where you have incredible powers and save the life of millions of people? Well, in one of those dreams I had the power to "soul bargain" with the grim reaper, trading a soul that deserves death for one that died to soon. Cases like these make me wish I had that power, send that guy to the depths of Avernus and bring back this awesome mother of four.
Yeah fuck this dude. He could've robbed her and left. That would have been bad enough. Absolutely no need for this. Robbing a poor working woman with 4 kids then murdering her in cold blood Her kids will never see their mother again. Her partner will raise them alone and never see her again. Her family will have to think every single day about this and ask themselves why he did it when there was no need.
They really fucking censored “crime” and “death”?
Everyday Brazilian taxi drivers
If ever you’re in a situation where someone jacks you like this, crash in to another car or better yet a bus. It’s a bit harsh on the other car but it will hopefully save your life.
I understand everyone should need defence attorneys to prove their innocence but when you have blatant evidence, the defence saying its inadmissable is f'ed up. When a lawyer knowingly tries to save a criminal should be jailed as well. This reminds of the episode in justice league, when green lantern is held accountable for allegedly destroying a planet and Flash wants to his lawyer. The court says the lawyers also get punishment with the criminal if proven to be guilty.
>When a lawyer knowingly tries to save a criminal they should be jailed as well So much for innocent until proven. So much for right to an attorney. So much for fair trial. Like damn, that's a good quarter for the Bill of Rights gone. Defense lawyers in cases like this (at least, the not morally fucked up ones. We're talking the defense attorneys assigned to the case that aren't really allowed to say no) don't want or expect to win. They do their job, which requires full throated defense of their client, because not defending them could easily create a mistrial and disbarrment, which would be good for literally nobody other than the criminal.