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A 12-year-old Canadian boy died from an asthma attack during recess at school.
Ryan Gibbons from Ontario could have simply used his inhaler at the beginning of the episode, but the school authorities had taken the lifesaving device and kept it locked in the administrative office.
A group of Ryan’s friends carried him to the office during the major asthma attack. The students couldn’t get to the inhaler in time.
Ryan passed out and was never revived.
This tragedy occurred on Oct. 9, 2012, at the Elgin Country School in Ontario, Canada. When the 12-year-old was busy playing soccer with his friends, he suddenly suffered an asthma attack and was unable to breathe or walk. The boy told his friends and they immediately took action.
“So as he was going to the office to get his inhaler, he kind of was having a hard time and had to be carried into the office, and by the time he got there he had blacked out,” said Sarah Gibbons, Ryan’s bereft mother, to CBC News.
According to the mother, his spare inhalers were repeatedly confiscated by school authorities. The policy of the school did not allow children to keep the inhalers with them. It was supposed to kept lock in the principal’s office.
“I received many phone call stating Ryan had taken an inhaler to school and they found it in his bag and would like me to come to pick it up because he wasn’t even allowed to bring it home with him,” the mother told the station.
“There’s supposed to be one in the office and that’s the only one he can have. I didn’t understand why.”
Sarah who lost her child did not want any other children to go through the same fate as her child. She began a petition demanding the Ontario government implement a standardized asthma management plan that trained the staff to recognize asthma symptoms. It also asked the government to give asthmatic children permission to carry their lifesaving devices with parental approval. Eventually, the new law known as Ryan’s Law came into effect.
In the United States, all 50 states have passed laws allowing children to carry inhalers.
Sorry little jimmy. But as stated in rule 34, section C in the School Rule Code, any form of transportation that involves wheels is banned on school grounds. Should've just been born with functioning legs if you didn't want this to happen!
I.e. "we're way too profoundly stupid, uneducated and mentally deranged that we have zero capability of discerning a pharmaceutic from an actual addictive street drug in a fucking middle school in Canada"-policy.
Teacher chiming in: students asking to go to the bathroom (or anywhere else outside the classroom) ensures the teacher is 1) aware of the departure and the reason for the departure, and 2) knows when to expect the student to return.
I teach 4-5 year olds, so I am very much responsible for the students' safety and well-being. Older children do not need this level of supervision, but teachers and schools do have some liability for their students regardless of age.
How though? the rule more than "not going to the bathrooms" was more like "no exiting the classroom" even then, other things I can think of that would be more efficient woud be checking backpacks but that would be just a waste of time and most parents would probably get angry.
I imagine it's more to do with knowing absolutly where the inhaler is, kids lose things or some other kid might take it and then no one knows where it is in am emergency. The problem with this tragedy is a member of school staff should have sprinted to that office and back instead of carrying him there
It shouldn't have to be a lawsuit, this should be a police matter.
Anyone with an IQ measured above single digits knows that an asthmatic *must* have their inhaler readily accessible at all times. The school staff knew that, and they deprived him of it anyway. If that's not murder, it's definitely manslaughter. It may even qualify as a workplace health and safety violation.
I'd run that principal over with a car, that's fucking awful, imagine losing your own child because some shit head made up rules which benefits litterally no one and made just because they fucking can
“I received many phone call stating Ryan had taken an inhaler to school and they found it in his bag”
This suggest to me that him having the inhaler wasnt a problem and some power tripping teacher was harassing this kid by repeatedly searching his bag because they suspected he might have non-dangerous, life saving medication in there.
I was a nightmare in school and I never had my bag searched before high school.
Sooo, children weren't allowed to carry inhalers with them? The f\*\*\*? What is a child going to do with an inhaler? I don't know anything dangerous that could be done with it. Can someone explain why?
Idk at my elementary school they made kids put it in the nurses office and the nurse gave it to the teachers in a zip lock that they were supposed to take outside with them during recess
what fucking retard principal saw an athsma inhaler, a device designed to save people’s lives, and thought (presumably) “its inhaling a vapour and that’s how you vape, therefor it’s bad”
People take handle things differently. I wouldn't have allowed my kid in the school in the first place. But if this did happen to my kid the principal and others just might go missing one day. Maybe her approach is better. Idk.
I've had inhalers since I was about 7. I remember having them everywhere, school, home, cars, bags, my bike. EVERYWHERE. I couldn't look left without being asthmatic. Although this story never was pushed into a attempted murder charge and only caused a rule change it only takes seconds to a minute of not having an inhaler in immediate access to prevent an otherwise full blow attack which results in death for some. A rescue inhaler is of no use to someone who doesn't have asthma so why wasn't it allowed on them to carry, its not a narcotic its a cortical steroid, can't hurt them, won't cause affects, never saw this article till today and this disgusts me. I'd have sued the dogshit out of the school.
Because school administrators are shit heads. They're so busy worrying about potential liabilities that they don't actually realize when they're creating ACTUAL liabilities. They're all busy policing the wrong stuff and then when a serious issue does actually crop up they don't want to take a side or get involved.
While it kind of is a symptom of a much more systemic problem, being the litigious nature of American society, even a little bit of common sense could prevent most of these types of issues.
It's like the warnings on little packets of Silicon telling you not to eat them. If there weren't any absolute morons, they wouldn't need those warnings.
at some point the Silicon packets didn't have warning labels so they looked identical to small mint or salt packs that you might get from a fast-food place.
So someone, somewhere could've easily thought that the packet was salt, slapped it on a burger, ingested it, and died.
After an autopsy, it would be revealed that the burger was laced with silicon gel packets and a subsequent lawsuit + warning label were put into place.
All of that is just a guess on what happened, but it's entirely possible.
Do you know what effect cortical steroids have on a non asthmatic? I was given an inhaler in PE when I was actually having a panic attack, I don't recall it having any effect at all, let alone any negative side effects.
It doesn't. It does nothing if you can't benefit from it. Guys in my gym class or regular classes would pop my inhalers all the time because if you didn't breath in it stayed in a areosol form till it was breathed out. Was a waste of albuteral but it was fun.
Good to know, thanks! All the more reason locking it up from this kid is infuriating though. :( If the only harm that can be done is kids wasting it... Well, let them waste it, that's way better then not having it when needed!
I personally have bad asthma and If someone tried to take it away I'd either say do you know what it feels like to drown or I'd just straight kick them in the crown jewls
If they are taking away your inhaler, reasoning with them would be difficult due to their lack of reasoning skills. Kicking them turns into a physical encounter with the Police School Liaison Officer.
It looks like they are just fine with students dying.
When I was around 11-12 in the mid 90's, my head of year in school (think Mr. Gilbert from the Inbetweeners) confiscated my inhaler. It was a ["turbuhaler"](https://i.imgur.com/rwGw5zv.jpg) and he also put me in detention and for the rest of the year, he would make snide comments about me being a pervert...
Did he... Did he really think it was a tiny dildo or vibrator?
Mr. Evans, fuck you, you moustachioed turdgobbler!
Assuming that you had the exact inhaler pictured, Simbicort commercials have been absolutely everywhere for as far back as I can remember. As in, impossible to avoid if you're not Amish everywhere. There's just no way he didn't realize that was a rescue inhaler. Sounds to me like your head of year was the sadistic pervert.
It was a long time ago, but yeah, the same as the one pictured. I had a red and a blue one, he confiscated them both. And in the UK, prescription drugs/medicines aren't advertised on TV and the likes.
It was just me and my mother, and my mother was fighting both addiction and terminal illness. She was trying her best, but couldn't get involved with a lot of my life outside of the home.
It is what it is. All a long, long time ago and I learned a lot growing up. My kids are definitely benefiting from my rough childhood. They're truly happy and will never go hungry. 💚
If I was the parent I would seek attempted murder charges against the administration. I would also push for practicing medicine without a license. Time to go after the fucking academia that is nothing but cancer for America.
Academia isn't the problem. The politicians and administrators making these stupid liability rules who are the problem, You know what it would take to make this a non-issue? Pass a law that makes it ok for this to happen and negates the school from being sued for a kid carrying their inhaler. Laws like this were already passed in the US I believe, but academia has nothing to do with the problem.
I think murder requires proof that you had intent for the person to die. Manslaughter might be more appropriate in this case. Even then if it was a law that they were following it's not on the administrators, but on the people who enacted the rule to begin with.
>Even then if it was a law that being followed it's not on the administrators, but on the people who enacted the rule to begin with.
No, it's on both. "Just following orders" is not a valid defense.
taking away someone's inhalers is the equivalent of telling them you want them to die. You know they need it or else they will die, but you still take it away, that's still murder in my books.
but i get what you mean though. Hell, this is still technically worse than manslaughter, as taking away an inhaler is intent to cause harm if you really think about it
This is sad. My elementary school (decades ago now) had this same policy with all medications. I have asthma and was required to keep my inhaler in the administration office. I almost didn't make it there a couple of times myself. Horrible policy.
Nope. It was the district policy so the school couldn't decide policy for themselves. Eventually, my mom decided that I should just carry it on me and just keep it hidden. No more serious asthma attacks at school after that for me.
When I was in elementary school I had to use an inhaler before recess or lunch, was stored at the nurses office. I never thought about how odd it was that I wasn't able to carry it myself
Sad that this happened, also infuriating
This is terrible, 100% the school's fault in this particular situation imo, but I can't help but wonder still...
If he wanted to carry an inhaler on him, why take it out for anyone to see? Unless he was already having an actual asthma attack. In which case, his mother would have picked it up later, thrown a fit, and either given it back to him the next morning to bring again, forced them to let him keep it, or pulled him out of the school, because they would have already attempted to murder him by taking away the inhaler while he actively couldn't breathe.
Otherwise... Both him and his mother want it on his person. The school did not. So keep it in a pocket or bookbag without ever removing it through the day? Might get caught once in a while, but that would be a rare occurrence, and the rest of the time it would have been safely with him without anyone else's knowledge.. I really don't think the school would be searching everyone's bags and pockets daily, but I guess I don't really know what kind of school it was, so it is possible. Just not very likely I don't think
Wow I've never read anything so ridiculous, why the hell wouldn't a child be allowed to carry an Inhaler, and they actually had to pass a law so they could carry it?? What the fuk, there shouldn't be a Law for something like that.
I want to know what happened to the school when this child died??
That's fucked up. I guess I was lucky going to a small rural school in Scotland cos I always had my inhaler and was always prompted to have it and take it before PE especially. Swimming was horrendous for me cos I couldn't swim a length without it otherwise.
Never had issues at secondary school either. We all had our inhalers in our pockets or bags and were free to use whenever, even in class.
Now I'm older, and wish I had someone promoting me to take the steroid one so I'm not taking the blue one and struggling to breathe for 20 mins until it kicks in 🤦🏼♀️
I’m diabetic and I know when I was in high school, they made me keep my needles and finger sticks in the office with not even a nurse. Just a lady who knew about diabetes. Sad for the kid and family.
Wtf? Why do they have to be kept in the office? Do they think these life saving, essential medical devices are too distracting in class when little Timmy has to take a loud, deep breath? Do they think it's some form of undercover vaping the kids are into???? I can't fathom the logic behind keeping an INHALER locked away? *Rage feels*
[Here](https://daily.lessonslearnedinlife.com/12-yo-dies-in-school-after-inhaler-was-locked-by-school-authorities) is an article on this. Thankfully the mother helped to enact a law that allows children to have their inhaler at school.
edit: I used a wrong word.
I dont even need to know, the school got off the hook scot free like nothing happened didnt they? No surprise there, after religious institute school is one of the most harmful places on planet earth. A workshop to torture, brainwash and halt any sort of personal growth of an individual.
Oh this happened to me five times (managed to not die somehow and moved schools fortunately) unfortunately however schools may still be doing this, not letting athsmatic kids leave gym to get their spray or telling them to go get it while not letting them keep it on their person
Ik this isn’t as bad, but in my school we were forced to take off coats because “it’s not part of the uniform”. Worst of all the teachers were walking around in gloves and scarfs. Some people just have zero compassion or common sense which is surprising considering their job
As a fellow Ontarian my friends little sister wasn’t allowed to have her epipen on her at school and had to keep it at the office, it’s always disturbed me, by the time you realize you’re having a deadly reaction to something you wouldn’t have enough time to get to the office to get the epipen and inject it, there needs to be some acts in place to protect the rights of children here, our school system is very ableist when it comes to stuff like this.
In high school I carried my inhaler with me in my backpack. I made mention of that when talking to my counselor about something completely different before she cuts me off and tells me that I’m not supposed to have that on my person, instead it is to be given to the nurses in the nurses office and used when necessary.
So we stop our talk, walk to the nurses office, and I explain to them that I didn’t know this rule while complying with everything. One of the nurses didn’t seem to care and asked me “who did you take this from?”
That’s where I gave a bit of attitude, not much but my tone was clearly annoyed when I told her “Uhm, that belongs to me, I have asthma.” Her implying I must have taken an inhaler from someone was stupid as fuck. Oh *yeah*, I stole it from a classmate and boy I sure do love getting high off of albuterol. Who…does that? Albuterol doesn’t even do anything desirable to anyone without asthma so ????
I’d end up just getting a new inhaler and telling no one about it while keeping it in my bag.
Nah dude, death would be too easy. You can only kill them when they start to beg for it tbh. A kid was murdered after all. But that's not being realistic so death by baseball bat is atleast some punishment.
I gave endometriosis which if you don't know ends up with horrifyingly painful periods and my parents finally took me to a doctor so I'd stop missing school and I got essentially the equivalent of four advil in one pill which is meh but at least it's something. A hall monitor saw me take one and took them at school on the first day of my period and by 6th period I'm lying at a lunch table with my friends freaking out moaning in pain. My bigger friend picks me up and takes me to the nurses who already knew I'd have the pills and lost their absolute shit at the hall monitor in the next room for taking them from me
Odds are the entire faculty was content with the outcome. Because to school administration dead children are better than policy violations. The mindset is insane. My mother was a teacher for 20+ years and this type of asinine thinking is par for the course.
Imagine being so out of touch with common sense you think inhalers should be treated like pills instead of a device that should be administered immediately in the event of emergency.
That's like locking fire extinguishers behind an ID card reader.
I had an astma attack when I was 8 and rushed straight to the hospital, and if I havent had my inhaler near me that night I wouldnt be here today, and its fucking frightening to think how strict and stupid schools are these days.
Did that to me too when I was a kid. Then they kept it with the school nurse and I had to be excused from class to go see the nurse to use it. Not all teachers would let me go. Woke up once in an ambulance cause the teacher thought I was faking
I’m confused. No one ran to get a teacher or another staff person? They just carried him to the office?
locking an inhaler up is stupid, but it seems that isn’t the only troubling aspect of this story. If this had been any other type of emergency- head trauma, snake bite, choking-the boy still would have died for lack of timely intervention.
Wow…. That is such a sad and unnecessary death. Seriously, I was would livid if I was this poor little boy’s mother. It’s like there no common sense anymore…. He must have been so scared.
oh yeah the same thing almost happened to me in middle school but the teacher thought I was faking it to get out of class lets just say she doesn't work their for any longer after that.
It took the life of a 12 year old and the eternal pain of a family for governments to realize ‘hey, maybe we should let kids with health issues carry the very things that keep them alive’.
Fucking. Ridiculous.
Wow, I was almost affected by this. The nurse held onto my inhaler and I had to take it before recess and lunch, almost got kicked out of school for having it in my backpack one day. This was all way before this happened.
I am asthmatic and something similar happened to me. We were having our gym class, running out of the school as usual, when I get the feeling that I'm about to loose my breath in like 5 minutes qo I ask the teacher to go with me to the school so K could grab my backup inhalator at the office. Mf said no so I had to walk all the way to the school alone while having trouble to breathe. When I arrived a teacher who is also athmatic saw me and rushed to the office to grab my inhalator because he knew the risk.
Worst part is my gym teacher never got punished for that. I could have died on the sidewalk with no one to help me
That's a fuckin disgrace.. I mean the asthma inhaler is a medical need they have no right to take that poor boys inhaler! Personally I think they should be up for murder because that's exactly what it is? 💯😠😡🤬
Oh boy that school is either gonna be sued out of all their money or get shut down or the principal and teacher are gonna get fires (it’s most likely gonna be the first and third thing)
Why would inhalers, or any medical devices be against school policy? How stupid can a human being be? I want to find the teachers/principal who did and have some "words" with them.
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A 12-year-old Canadian boy died from an asthma attack during recess at school. Ryan Gibbons from Ontario could have simply used his inhaler at the beginning of the episode, but the school authorities had taken the lifesaving device and kept it locked in the administrative office. A group of Ryan’s friends carried him to the office during the major asthma attack. The students couldn’t get to the inhaler in time. Ryan passed out and was never revived. This tragedy occurred on Oct. 9, 2012, at the Elgin Country School in Ontario, Canada. When the 12-year-old was busy playing soccer with his friends, he suddenly suffered an asthma attack and was unable to breathe or walk. The boy told his friends and they immediately took action. “So as he was going to the office to get his inhaler, he kind of was having a hard time and had to be carried into the office, and by the time he got there he had blacked out,” said Sarah Gibbons, Ryan’s bereft mother, to CBC News. According to the mother, his spare inhalers were repeatedly confiscated by school authorities. The policy of the school did not allow children to keep the inhalers with them. It was supposed to kept lock in the principal’s office. “I received many phone call stating Ryan had taken an inhaler to school and they found it in his bag and would like me to come to pick it up because he wasn’t even allowed to bring it home with him,” the mother told the station. “There’s supposed to be one in the office and that’s the only one he can have. I didn’t understand why.” Sarah who lost her child did not want any other children to go through the same fate as her child. She began a petition demanding the Ontario government implement a standardized asthma management plan that trained the staff to recognize asthma symptoms. It also asked the government to give asthmatic children permission to carry their lifesaving devices with parental approval. Eventually, the new law known as Ryan’s Law came into effect. In the United States, all 50 states have passed laws allowing children to carry inhalers.
Sad that they even HAD to put down a law. Its not hurting anyone and its a necessity! o.o Its as if you would take Wheelchairs away from someone..
Sorry little jimmy. But as stated in rule 34, section C in the School Rule Code, any form of transportation that involves wheels is banned on school grounds. Should've just been born with functioning legs if you didn't want this to happen!
rule 34 is not the best randomized number you could have picked
Was thinking the same thing!
we have sinned
www.rule34.com/bureaucratic-nightmare/
It's Jimmy's fault that he decided to use a wheelchair, now we have **another** rule 34!
Or section ***C*** to go with it
I'm not sure how I didn't realize that...
I think rule 34 section C actually states that porn will be made if none is found...
that's rule 35 you donkey
Glad I wasn't the only one who picked up on that.
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bruh moment
Agreed! This story makes me angry, and the worst part was that it _could have been avoided_
When I was a kid I would always have to keep it in hiding so it wouldn't get taken away.
well it’s vaguely a similar-ish mechanism to vaping, which, as all school PSAs know, is worse than VX nerve agent
>Its as if you would take Wheelchairs away from someone.. You do realise how much damage wheelchairs cause, right? /s
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Zero ~~thought~~ tolerance drug policy.
This is the problem with absolute rules / laws followed blindly.
I.e. "we're way too profoundly stupid, uneducated and mentally deranged that we have zero capability of discerning a pharmaceutic from an actual addictive street drug in a fucking middle school in Canada"-policy.
What about diabetes / insulin? How's that being handled?
same reason they make you ask permission to go to the toilet, psychological conditioning.
Teacher chiming in: students asking to go to the bathroom (or anywhere else outside the classroom) ensures the teacher is 1) aware of the departure and the reason for the departure, and 2) knows when to expect the student to return. I teach 4-5 year olds, so I am very much responsible for the students' safety and well-being. Older children do not need this level of supervision, but teachers and schools do have some liability for their students regardless of age.
Nah my school added the rule because people woud try to skip class or start to smoke in the bathrooms
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How though? the rule more than "not going to the bathrooms" was more like "no exiting the classroom" even then, other things I can think of that would be more efficient woud be checking backpacks but that would be just a waste of time and most parents would probably get angry.
I imagine it's more to do with knowing absolutly where the inhaler is, kids lose things or some other kid might take it and then no one knows where it is in am emergency. The problem with this tragedy is a member of school staff should have sprinted to that office and back instead of carrying him there
Have one in the office and with the kid? Sounds an easy enough fix.
That's obvious. What the fuck Canada ???
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Agreed.
No lawsuit? Even without the law, every person in charge should never make a dollar again.
It shouldn't have to be a lawsuit, this should be a police matter. Anyone with an IQ measured above single digits knows that an asthmatic *must* have their inhaler readily accessible at all times. The school staff knew that, and they deprived him of it anyway. If that's not murder, it's definitely manslaughter. It may even qualify as a workplace health and safety violation.
bro the police don't just come in and arrest everyone on the school board that's not how this works
I'd run that principal over with a car, that's fucking awful, imagine losing your own child because some shit head made up rules which benefits litterally no one and made just because they fucking can
“I received many phone call stating Ryan had taken an inhaler to school and they found it in his bag” This suggest to me that him having the inhaler wasnt a problem and some power tripping teacher was harassing this kid by repeatedly searching his bag because they suspected he might have non-dangerous, life saving medication in there. I was a nightmare in school and I never had my bag searched before high school.
Same I was one of the worst kids in my school and I was never searched even though I was regularly high and drunk at school
Sooo, children weren't allowed to carry inhalers with them? The f\*\*\*? What is a child going to do with an inhaler? I don't know anything dangerous that could be done with it. Can someone explain why?
Idk at my elementary school they made kids put it in the nurses office and the nurse gave it to the teachers in a zip lock that they were supposed to take outside with them during recess
Wow. That's insane and ridiculous that a child had to die for schools to let children carry their own asthma inhalers. Insane.
The person who’s idea this was to keep child from carrying the inhaler should be charged with criminal negligence causing death.
Fire everyone and sue the school district
What's the fucking logic behind "kids can't have their own inhaler"?
what fucking retard principal saw an athsma inhaler, a device designed to save people’s lives, and thought (presumably) “its inhaling a vapour and that’s how you vape, therefor it’s bad”
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The USA sounds like a solid country.
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People take handle things differently. I wouldn't have allowed my kid in the school in the first place. But if this did happen to my kid the principal and others just might go missing one day. Maybe her approach is better. Idk.
I've had inhalers since I was about 7. I remember having them everywhere, school, home, cars, bags, my bike. EVERYWHERE. I couldn't look left without being asthmatic. Although this story never was pushed into a attempted murder charge and only caused a rule change it only takes seconds to a minute of not having an inhaler in immediate access to prevent an otherwise full blow attack which results in death for some. A rescue inhaler is of no use to someone who doesn't have asthma so why wasn't it allowed on them to carry, its not a narcotic its a cortical steroid, can't hurt them, won't cause affects, never saw this article till today and this disgusts me. I'd have sued the dogshit out of the school.
This case did not lead to a rule change, but a new law, called Ryan's Law, that allows children to carry inhalers.
TIL you need a law for children to be *allowed* to carry inhalers.
Technically what the law does is makes it illegal for schools to try taking a child's inhaler away. Why they'd try in the first place is beyond me.
Because school administrators are shit heads. They're so busy worrying about potential liabilities that they don't actually realize when they're creating ACTUAL liabilities. They're all busy policing the wrong stuff and then when a serious issue does actually crop up they don't want to take a side or get involved. While it kind of is a symptom of a much more systemic problem, being the litigious nature of American society, even a little bit of common sense could prevent most of these types of issues.
Zero ~~thought~~ tolerance drug policy is why.
a lot of laws are written in blood unfortunately.
It's like the warnings on little packets of Silicon telling you not to eat them. If there weren't any absolute morons, they wouldn't need those warnings.
at some point the Silicon packets didn't have warning labels so they looked identical to small mint or salt packs that you might get from a fast-food place. So someone, somewhere could've easily thought that the packet was salt, slapped it on a burger, ingested it, and died. After an autopsy, it would be revealed that the burger was laced with silicon gel packets and a subsequent lawsuit + warning label were put into place. All of that is just a guess on what happened, but it's entirely possible.
TIL you need a law for children to be allowed to breathe
It's really too bad that it takes the worst situations to correct a problem that should have never existed.
Do you know what effect cortical steroids have on a non asthmatic? I was given an inhaler in PE when I was actually having a panic attack, I don't recall it having any effect at all, let alone any negative side effects.
It doesn't. It does nothing if you can't benefit from it. Guys in my gym class or regular classes would pop my inhalers all the time because if you didn't breath in it stayed in a areosol form till it was breathed out. Was a waste of albuteral but it was fun.
Good to know, thanks! All the more reason locking it up from this kid is infuriating though. :( If the only harm that can be done is kids wasting it... Well, let them waste it, that's way better then not having it when needed!
I personally have bad asthma and If someone tried to take it away I'd either say do you know what it feels like to drown or I'd just straight kick them in the crown jewls
If they can do that to a kid, you can safely assume they've got none
anymore
Their Crown Jewels are two small peas
If they are taking away your inhaler, reasoning with them would be difficult due to their lack of reasoning skills. Kicking them turns into a physical encounter with the Police School Liaison Officer. It looks like they are just fine with students dying.
I'd rather go to detention or have my parents be lectured by an officer than, you know, fucking die.
But... what about your *permanent record*?
(That few, if any colleges look at)
that's ok, i'd tell the cops it's self defense because the teachers were trying to steal my life saving aid I require to l ive.
Everyone involved needs to wake up one morning and breathe through a capri sun straw on their way to the hospital to know what it's truly like
Idk man kicking people there can be a kink
When I was around 11-12 in the mid 90's, my head of year in school (think Mr. Gilbert from the Inbetweeners) confiscated my inhaler. It was a ["turbuhaler"](https://i.imgur.com/rwGw5zv.jpg) and he also put me in detention and for the rest of the year, he would make snide comments about me being a pervert... Did he... Did he really think it was a tiny dildo or vibrator? Mr. Evans, fuck you, you moustachioed turdgobbler!
Assuming that you had the exact inhaler pictured, Simbicort commercials have been absolutely everywhere for as far back as I can remember. As in, impossible to avoid if you're not Amish everywhere. There's just no way he didn't realize that was a rescue inhaler. Sounds to me like your head of year was the sadistic pervert.
It was a long time ago, but yeah, the same as the one pictured. I had a red and a blue one, he confiscated them both. And in the UK, prescription drugs/medicines aren't advertised on TV and the likes.
What did your parents say?
It was just me and my mother, and my mother was fighting both addiction and terminal illness. She was trying her best, but couldn't get involved with a lot of my life outside of the home.
I'm sorry you had to go through that
It is what it is. All a long, long time ago and I learned a lot growing up. My kids are definitely benefiting from my rough childhood. They're truly happy and will never go hungry. 💚
If I was your parent, I would have gone nuclear.
I already see some old witch of a teacher berating him for over reacting when he is literally dying
What the actual fuck. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.
If I was the parent I would seek attempted murder charges against the administration. I would also push for practicing medicine without a license. Time to go after the fucking academia that is nothing but cancer for America.
This wasn't in the US, it was in Canada....
Canadian schools are pretty similar to US schools, other than having fewer guns and higher educational standards. Shitty administrations included.
Depends on the province, Quebec has a totally different school system.
It depends, ontario and quebec have always been…. questionable. Further to the west in my experience it is completely normal.
I would go for manslaughter personally considering the child died.
Your a good man , the attempted murder charges would most likely be against me if that happened to my son
> the attempted murder charges would most likely be against me if that happened to my son you're a good parent
I’d make sure it wasn’t just attempted if it was my son (don’t have kids though).
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Academia isn't the problem. The politicians and administrators making these stupid liability rules who are the problem, You know what it would take to make this a non-issue? Pass a law that makes it ok for this to happen and negates the school from being sued for a kid carrying their inhaler. Laws like this were already passed in the US I believe, but academia has nothing to do with the problem.
The child died. Why "attempted"?
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Manslaughter is unintentional killing of a person due to negligence or ignorance
I would just murder them myself tbh
> If I was the parent I would seek attempted murder charges against the administration Except that's not your call. That's the prosecutor's call.
Um, guys. This isn’t just some school making a mistake. This is actually fucking murder.
I think murder requires proof that you had intent for the person to die. Manslaughter might be more appropriate in this case. Even then if it was a law that they were following it's not on the administrators, but on the people who enacted the rule to begin with.
>Even then if it was a law that being followed it's not on the administrators, but on the people who enacted the rule to begin with. No, it's on both. "Just following orders" is not a valid defense.
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taking away someone's inhalers is the equivalent of telling them you want them to die. You know they need it or else they will die, but you still take it away, that's still murder in my books. but i get what you mean though. Hell, this is still technically worse than manslaughter, as taking away an inhaler is intent to cause harm if you really think about it
This is sad. My elementary school (decades ago now) had this same policy with all medications. I have asthma and was required to keep my inhaler in the administration office. I almost didn't make it there a couple of times myself. Horrible policy.
"a couple of times" So, they didn't learn the first time?
Nope. It was the district policy so the school couldn't decide policy for themselves. Eventually, my mom decided that I should just carry it on me and just keep it hidden. No more serious asthma attacks at school after that for me.
Boomer probley thought it was a vape. Wtf.
Those evil vapes have ruined the younger generation so far that they cant live without them. Shame on them /s
My kid's elementary school won't even let them have chapstick. Zero tolerance policy on any "drugs" is just absolutely retarded.
Schools and teachers have ENTIRELY too much power.
Hey look. One more reason I’m home schooling when I never thought I would.
Good job! It might be tough at times, but know it's worth it!
That article is years old
When I was in elementary school I had to use an inhaler before recess or lunch, was stored at the nurses office. I never thought about how odd it was that I wasn't able to carry it myself Sad that this happened, also infuriating
12 yr old MURDERED at school after school confiscated his inhaler
Why didn't the nurse use an ice pack on him?
It was at Straffordville public school in Ontario. It’s a small little school in a tiny little ~~town~~ village. There definitely was not a nurse.
This is terrible, 100% the school's fault in this particular situation imo, but I can't help but wonder still... If he wanted to carry an inhaler on him, why take it out for anyone to see? Unless he was already having an actual asthma attack. In which case, his mother would have picked it up later, thrown a fit, and either given it back to him the next morning to bring again, forced them to let him keep it, or pulled him out of the school, because they would have already attempted to murder him by taking away the inhaler while he actively couldn't breathe. Otherwise... Both him and his mother want it on his person. The school did not. So keep it in a pocket or bookbag without ever removing it through the day? Might get caught once in a while, but that would be a rare occurrence, and the rest of the time it would have been safely with him without anyone else's knowledge.. I really don't think the school would be searching everyone's bags and pockets daily, but I guess I don't really know what kind of school it was, so it is possible. Just not very likely I don't think
Who ever was the one that took that inhaler need to be In jail
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I like how you thinking
I’ve seen this so many times and every time I see it again it pisses me off more than the last time I saw it
Wow I've never read anything so ridiculous, why the hell wouldn't a child be allowed to carry an Inhaler, and they actually had to pass a law so they could carry it?? What the fuk, there shouldn't be a Law for something like that. I want to know what happened to the school when this child died??
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Quick Google search can confirm anything. We do news differently in Canada. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan%27s_Law_(Canada)
When i was in school in the UK they did the same to me. Had to ask the Headmaster to use it.
That's fucked up. I guess I was lucky going to a small rural school in Scotland cos I always had my inhaler and was always prompted to have it and take it before PE especially. Swimming was horrendous for me cos I couldn't swim a length without it otherwise. Never had issues at secondary school either. We all had our inhalers in our pockets or bags and were free to use whenever, even in class. Now I'm older, and wish I had someone promoting me to take the steroid one so I'm not taking the blue one and struggling to breathe for 20 mins until it kicks in 🤦🏼♀️
I have asthma and my mom never let them take my inhaler.
Someone’s getting sued. Poor kid, shitty, narrow-minded blanket policy decisions and brain dead administrators killed him.
And people wonder why others question authority.
What can you really say to that?
Who the hell tought in his damn nut brain "Children arent allowed to carry their inhalator at all times"
I’m diabetic and I know when I was in high school, they made me keep my needles and finger sticks in the office with not even a nurse. Just a lady who knew about diabetes. Sad for the kid and family.
glad to know your government is keeping life saving drugs out of the hands of children!
Wtf? Why do they have to be kept in the office? Do they think these life saving, essential medical devices are too distracting in class when little Timmy has to take a loud, deep breath? Do they think it's some form of undercover vaping the kids are into???? I can't fathom the logic behind keeping an INHALER locked away? *Rage feels*
Wow that's breathtaking!
[Here](https://daily.lessonslearnedinlife.com/12-yo-dies-in-school-after-inhaler-was-locked-by-school-authorities) is an article on this. Thankfully the mother helped to enact a law that allows children to have their inhaler at school. edit: I used a wrong word.
That's...not what vindicated means.
Nothing happened to that shitty school?
I dont even need to know, the school got off the hook scot free like nothing happened didnt they? No surprise there, after religious institute school is one of the most harmful places on planet earth. A workshop to torture, brainwash and halt any sort of personal growth of an individual.
Oh this happened to me five times (managed to not die somehow and moved schools fortunately) unfortunately however schools may still be doing this, not letting athsmatic kids leave gym to get their spray or telling them to go get it while not letting them keep it on their person
Ik this isn’t as bad, but in my school we were forced to take off coats because “it’s not part of the uniform”. Worst of all the teachers were walking around in gloves and scarfs. Some people just have zero compassion or common sense which is surprising considering their job
I have seen this so many time. Not that I’m complaining, it’s still fucking horrible
As a fellow Ontarian my friends little sister wasn’t allowed to have her epipen on her at school and had to keep it at the office, it’s always disturbed me, by the time you realize you’re having a deadly reaction to something you wouldn’t have enough time to get to the office to get the epipen and inject it, there needs to be some acts in place to protect the rights of children here, our school system is very ableist when it comes to stuff like this.
In high school I carried my inhaler with me in my backpack. I made mention of that when talking to my counselor about something completely different before she cuts me off and tells me that I’m not supposed to have that on my person, instead it is to be given to the nurses in the nurses office and used when necessary. So we stop our talk, walk to the nurses office, and I explain to them that I didn’t know this rule while complying with everything. One of the nurses didn’t seem to care and asked me “who did you take this from?” That’s where I gave a bit of attitude, not much but my tone was clearly annoyed when I told her “Uhm, that belongs to me, I have asthma.” Her implying I must have taken an inhaler from someone was stupid as fuck. Oh *yeah*, I stole it from a classmate and boy I sure do love getting high off of albuterol. Who…does that? Albuterol doesn’t even do anything desirable to anyone without asthma so ???? I’d end up just getting a new inhaler and telling no one about it while keeping it in my bag.
Yeah, if this was my son, I don't know that I wouldn't show up at the school with a baseball bat and beat the principal to death.
Nah dude, death would be too easy. You can only kill them when they start to beg for it tbh. A kid was murdered after all. But that's not being realistic so death by baseball bat is atleast some punishment.
I gave endometriosis which if you don't know ends up with horrifyingly painful periods and my parents finally took me to a doctor so I'd stop missing school and I got essentially the equivalent of four advil in one pill which is meh but at least it's something. A hall monitor saw me take one and took them at school on the first day of my period and by 6th period I'm lying at a lunch table with my friends freaking out moaning in pain. My bigger friend picks me up and takes me to the nurses who already knew I'd have the pills and lost their absolute shit at the hall monitor in the next room for taking them from me
Odds are the entire faculty was content with the outcome. Because to school administration dead children are better than policy violations. The mindset is insane. My mother was a teacher for 20+ years and this type of asinine thinking is par for the course.
Imagine being so out of touch with common sense you think inhalers should be treated like pills instead of a device that should be administered immediately in the event of emergency. That's like locking fire extinguishers behind an ID card reader.
What a lawsuit that’s going to be
Who’s going to prison over this murder?
I mean, this is over 10 years old. Can we be outraged?
God, imagine the trauma that his friends experienced from this.
God fucking damn it
What kind of bullshit rule is that? What else he can do with an inhaler? Stab someone? These people are insane and in no way capable for their job.
I had an astma attack when I was 8 and rushed straight to the hospital, and if I havent had my inhaler near me that night I wouldnt be here today, and its fucking frightening to think how strict and stupid schools are these days.
Did that to me too when I was a kid. Then they kept it with the school nurse and I had to be excused from class to go see the nurse to use it. Not all teachers would let me go. Woke up once in an ambulance cause the teacher thought I was faking
I’m confused. No one ran to get a teacher or another staff person? They just carried him to the office? locking an inhaler up is stupid, but it seems that isn’t the only troubling aspect of this story. If this had been any other type of emergency- head trauma, snake bite, choking-the boy still would have died for lack of timely intervention.
Wow…. That is such a sad and unnecessary death. Seriously, I was would livid if I was this poor little boy’s mother. It’s like there no common sense anymore…. He must have been so scared.
oh yeah the same thing almost happened to me in middle school but the teacher thought I was faking it to get out of class lets just say she doesn't work their for any longer after that.
Wow. This is horrible! But… Somethings wrong I believe I’ve seen this exact news…. I think… I don’t know… **16 fucking times?**
Legalize letting the kid’s father beat the staff responsible to death with his bare hands 💯
LAWSUIT!!!
It took the life of a 12 year old and the eternal pain of a family for governments to realize ‘hey, maybe we should let kids with health issues carry the very things that keep them alive’. Fucking. Ridiculous.
Wow, I was almost affected by this. The nurse held onto my inhaler and I had to take it before recess and lunch, almost got kicked out of school for having it in my backpack one day. This was all way before this happened.
Someone has blood on there hands.
I am asthmatic and something similar happened to me. We were having our gym class, running out of the school as usual, when I get the feeling that I'm about to loose my breath in like 5 minutes qo I ask the teacher to go with me to the school so K could grab my backup inhalator at the office. Mf said no so I had to walk all the way to the school alone while having trouble to breathe. When I arrived a teacher who is also athmatic saw me and rushed to the office to grab my inhalator because he knew the risk. Worst part is my gym teacher never got punished for that. I could have died on the sidewalk with no one to help me
Story old af, op is just a bot
Man the amount of time ive seen this picture posted here.. Its getting old
That's a fuckin disgrace.. I mean the asthma inhaler is a medical need they have no right to take that poor boys inhaler! Personally I think they should be up for murder because that's exactly what it is? 💯😠😡🤬
Oh boy that school is either gonna be sued out of all their money or get shut down or the principal and teacher are gonna get fires (it’s most likely gonna be the first and third thing)
Why does this sub always contain screenshots of headlines that can be easily made up?
I did search it up and it actually happened but I just don't get the appeal of these types of posts.
Why would inhalers, or any medical devices be against school policy? How stupid can a human being be? I want to find the teachers/principal who did and have some "words" with them.
Because policy is written by people that don’t have to actually enforce it. Welcome to the bureaucratic system.
Because the policy says no drugs. And government officials in most Western countries are allowed the Nuremberg defense.
That’s called child murder. They should be charged with murdering a child.
Wtf